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[Q] MHL-MicroHDMI-Cable stopped working on a Note 3 possibly due to S6

Hello, everybody. Thank you for reading this.
My MHL-Cable worked perfectly before.
Now, the Note 3 says, that it detected the HDMI Cable. But the TV does receive no signal.
I already tried to make it run on multiple TV's. Before, all TV'S recieved a signal. Now not anymore.
The cable belongs to my little brother and he is going to kill me, if he recognised anything
But i know, what possibly caused the problem. I tried to connect the cable with the god -damn Galaxy S6, which is Samsungs ProjectZero Phone , where They have even removed MHL-Support! !!!!
I did put the cable into the S6. From that Moment, it possibly stopped working properly.
Now, my SGN3 still says "HDMI Cable connected"but the Tv stays silent.
Do you think that it is the fault of the S6? How cani fix it?

Hannah Stern said:
Hello, everybody. Thank you for reading this.
My MHL-Cable worked perfectly before.
Now, the Note 3 says, that it detected the HDMI Cable. But the TV does receive no signal.
I already tried to make it run on multiple TV's. Before, all TV'S recieved a signal. Now not anymore.
The cable belongs to my little brother and he is going to kill me, if he recognised anything
But i know, what possibly caused the problem. I tried to connect the cable with the god -damn Galaxy S6, which is Samsungs ProjectZero Phone , where They have even removed MHL-Support! !!!!
I did put the cable into the S6. From that Moment, it possibly stopped working properly.
Now, my SGN3 still says "HDMI Cable connected"but the Tv stays silent.
Do you think that it is the fault of the S6? How cani fix it?
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Sounds like you need a new cable.

Is the Galaxy S6 still a "Galaxy"?
Evolution_Tech said:
Sounds like you need a new cable.
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Thank you for your answer.
The cable was expensive. 12 meters!
And now (let's blame ProjectZero and the S6) it is destroyed. Oh no.:crying:

Hi hannah stern. I'm a note 4 owner and i've been watching your posts over at “anyone else disappointed in missing note 4 features...“, and i totally agree with you and your coined “samsung project 0“ - i for one will be sticking with note 4 and never look to another samsung phone unless they come to their senses and change back their crappy trend.
Any solution for your faulty cable? By the way, can i connect an external hdd to note 4, usb to micro usb cable?

bbbobbbo said:
Hi Hannah Stern. I'm a Note 4 owner and i've been watching your posts over at “anyone else disappointed in missing note 4 features...“, and i totally agree with you and your coined “samsung project 0“ - i for one will be sticking with note 4 and never look to another samsung phone unless they come to their senses and change back their crappy trend.
Any solution for your faulty cable? By the way, can i connect an external hdd to note 4, usb to micro usb cable?
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Thank you very much, bbbobbbo.
Thank you for taking time, to read my looooonnng boooring posts in the Note 4 thread.
Actually, the Note 4 has MHL. See GSMArena.
bbbobbbo said:
crappy trend.
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Yes, the S6 is a Cr^pPhone.
The Processing Performance, Screen and Graphics Card is OK, but now, Samsung has nothing, which is really highly special.
Special things about phones:
Waterproofness (Xperia and S5)
USB 3.0 (Note 3 and S5)
Temperature Sensor (Sony and S4+Note 3)
S-Pen (Note-Smartphones)
Good User Interface and Many Features (Note 2 and Note 3)
AirTouch, AirView, TSP-Hovering (S4 and Note 3)
Many useful gimmicks (S4 and Note 3)
Replacable Battery (Samsung. Sure, Samsung has replacable battery. That was for sure, until the S6 came) (Now LG (G3+G4) is the only one with Replacable Battery.
Humidity Sensor
Options Key (is now sacrificed.)
MicroSD (Now HTC, Sony, LG. But not Samsung.)
...and they have even removed more! (MHL etc...)
At least it has Pulse and Fingerprint scan and USB-OTG.
Here is the S6 Disappointed Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/disappointed-s6-list-reasons-t3044369

It was a pleasure reading your comments, and it's a lot of sense in them.
Humidity sensor is also present in note 3, alongside with temp sensor. And don't forget about FM radio which they also stripped! I've missed that since my note 2 (i've owned note 2, 3 and now 4)
Yes, you're right, and I'm really pissed; the best overall experience I had was with my beloved note 2, a really excellent performer. Note 3 was a no go because of its sh#tty pics in low light.
Note 4 has good camera with ois, finally. But... is sadly missing many features from note 2 and 3, as you said. The spen is the only thing specifically to Samsung that's still there, and if ever another manufacturer picks the idea up and makes a mother of all phones WITH something similar to spen, I'll be the first to buy it.

bbbobbbo said:
It was a pleasure reading your comments, and it's a lot of sense in them.
Humidity sensor is also present in note 3, alongside with temp sensor. And don't forget about FM radio which they also stripped! I've missed that since my note 2 (i've owned note 2, 3 and now 4)
Yes, you're right, and I'm really pissed; the best overall experience I had was with my beloved note 2, a really excellent performer. Note 3 was a no go because of its sh#tty pics in low light.
Note 4 has good camera with ois, finally. But... is sadly missing many features from note 2 and 3, as you said. The spen is the only thing specifically to Samsung that's still there, and if ever another manufacturer picks the idea up and makes a mother of all phones WITH something similar to spen, I'll be the first to buy it.
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Thank you very much for your answer. I really appreciate it.
Take a look at the LG G4. I hope the Note 5, not to be a note zero. I hope it, to have the old Galaxy logo again, not the new uglier one from the S6.
Actually, if you turn Intelligent Stabilisation on, and hold very steady, then your low light photos with the Note 3 will be much better. The Note 2's low light performance is also not the best.
But you're 1000% right. I really miss OIS on the Note 3. Also 1440p Video Recording is something that i miss. (Saves Space in comparisson to 4K, but is better than FullHD.)
I wish, that there would be one phone, which really has ALL features. ALL features from the older ones, not missing a single one.
If more features cost more space, why the hell don't they make phones with bigger space storages?
Also: S6 has finally slow motion, how i described it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/slow-motion-phones-device-how-to-imo-t2998500 - they have done that TOO LATE! (After pj.0 started.)
Project Zero means:
Zero Features
Zero Reputation
Zero Flexibility
Another thing: The Note 2 had such a beautiful waterful natural user interface. The S6 user interface is horribly ugly.
MHL was there since S2 GT-i9100 and Note N7000. Nobody would expect it to be removed, as it was very, very useful.
Advantages of MicroSD in comparison to USB-OTG are:
Does not reserve the charging port (but there's still wireless charging as alternative, but that's not very fast.)
It's inside of the device and does not affect the flexibility.
Myself, i could live with a Note 4, but i really prefer the Note 3, which has many more software features and sensors. And a much frendlier, lively User Interface.
But i miss Radio on my Note 3. I hope the Note 5, to be able to use the Radio without needing a headset.
The S6 destroyed my MHL-Cable. Twelve meters. Expensive.
I was shocked, when i saw this page the first time: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s6-6849.php - Samsung moved to the dark side. Horrible.
Also take a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/help/thickness-phone-to-batter-battery-life-t3133035
The S6 is thinner. Better? No, but thinner.
But flexibility and features are much more important than design. Theoretically, it is also possible, to have a good design in combination to the S6-Design. Isn't it?
Let's hope Samsung, to cancel project cr^p.

S6—Thread
@bbbobbbo
Here are some other posts from the S6-Thread:
Hannah Stern said:
hella356 said:
I
would love to see Samsung make an extra model along the lines of S7-E
(for Expandable). Basically the S4/S5 version - bringing back all the
features that so many of us miss - of whatever they do with the S7,
because the S6 ship has already sailed. That way they cover both bases &
everyone's happy. The 'E' version could be slightly thicker than the
standard model.
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That is 10000% right.
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Hannah Stern said:
I am still missing the EXIF in the Photo Viewer.
Why is the Barometer stuck at 1011.9 hPa?
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I hope the Note 5 not to be like the S6.
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Hannah Stern said:
Saafir said:
I wish people
would quit crying about MicroSD. It's 2015... USE THE CLOUD. Usb OTG is
yet another option. The phone fully charges right around 1 hour.. I
swear, some people are just miserable regardless.
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Yes, that's a Valid Point.
USB OTG
Quick Charge
But clouds are also very fine, but older phones also already supported
them. And... they require internet connection.
There are also home (local network) clouds, but they are not portable
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Saafir said:
It's 2015...
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I truly miss those
good old times :crying:
Now, disadvantages are growing up. :crying:
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XeoNoX said:
VICosPhi said:
1. No micro SD
slot
2. Non user-replaceable battery
3. Non user-replaceable battery cover, can't install dual sim adapter,
useless unibody design specially when I travel.
4. Not water resistant. I use my S5 to take pics when inside pool, in
rain, in snow, in Ocean as well. Unibody design should make it
waterproof..unbelievable that its not even water resistant!
I blame all the idiot tech journalists that are in bed with Apple and
claim metal body as "premium feel/design". I also blame the sheep people
that agree with these opinions. I do understand if some people genuinely
prefer metal body, at least they got what they wanted in terms of
design, not sure about features though.
Going to wait for G4 and Z4 now, or get Note 5 as Samsung will be back
into their senses by then.
PS SanDisk just announced a 200GB microSD to rub salt on
our wounds !
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im hoping Samsung fixes this with future handsets, waiting for the note
5 will be a gamble, for me as its months away and will come with yet
another hefty pricetag. even if they add the microSDcard support they
would also need to go back to Qualcomm chipset, that alone for both
things to happen will be a gamble and the odds not looking good. im
seriously considering xiaomi note pro or a xiaomi product at this point,
xiaomi is up and coming, once it hits the states it will be up there in
known brands, Hugo Barra (former vice president of GOOGLE, yes he helped
Google big time get where there are) is now in charge of Xiaomi and
Xiaomi is not disappointing. Just wish Xiaomi would incorporate the
microsdcard as well as IR, but their pricepoint is great! OnePlusOne is
my other option i am considering, although i may wait for their next
phone.
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@bbbobbbo
 @hella356
Having many Stock Features is always very good. That's because they are perfectly optimized for this phone. Example: "A Better Camera Unlocked" crashes sometimes, if you try creating HD-Panoramas.
See:
raisqureshi said:
Hi guys!
There is no animation of video thumbnails in the stock video app. I had it in Note 3. Have they removed it in Note 4?
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My little brother
This cable originally belongs to my little brother.
It was very expensive. The S6 is really a big zero.
Because IF my little brother finds out anything,
he'll crossify me.
Thank you very much, S6.
I will die in the hospital due to ProjectZero.

For everybody, who understand the German language:
Das S6 ist ein unfähiges missgeburt-Handy. Samsungs größter "Ausrutscher", viel mehr ein Unfall.

Das S6 ist eine elende Schande für Samsung mit samt aller Fans.
I simply can't believe that the S6 ruined the MHL-Cable!

Business?
The Note-Smartphone must stay a BUISNESS-Smartphone with USB 3.0 and the other things.
An S6-Like Note 5 is not good for buisness anymore. No Temperature sensor and many things from the Note 3 are missing too!
MHL was also good for Business. The Note 5 will also destroy your MHL, if they use the same losercharger port like the S6. Well, fast charging is good. But MHL is better sometimes.

Any input ? Note 5 or s6 edge?

Any help would be great guys. I currently have a s6 edge on att but looking to switch to T-Mobile. I love my s6e but since I'm switching and have an option on changing devices on intertaining the note 5.
I never owned a note line always had galaxy series. Is it too big and gauky in your pocket. Is it comfortable to hold to your ear? Is the spen actually something you use?
Any pros and con's would be great.
The guys

Over 80 views and no comments ?

It kind of depends on if you think you will use the S-Pen or not. I personally found the Edge+ to be a little gimmicky. After you get over the awe of the curved screen, I felt that the Note had way more to offer. Both phones are identical aside from the S-Pen features for the Note or the curved screen and software that comes along with that. You have to decide what you think will fit what you plan on using the phone for.

I've been a note owner since the first iteration. For me, with medium to large hands, holding the note for any purpose, including phone calls is quite comfortable, although I use my bluetooth headset most of the time. I seldom use the spen, although the note while off function has come in handy a few times.
The device sits nicely in my jeans or coat pockets.

It comes down to personal preference.
I would go to Best Buy and play with both phones and decide for yourself.

Note 5. But then again you are in note 5 section. If I go ask in s6 I am sure they will pick they own phone.

I've had both, for me personally, I chose the Note 5. The dual screen is beautiful but it gets boring after a while and its not as comfortable to hold in your hand.

Note5 way to go.

I had the edge 6 and switched to the note 5, I prefer the larger screen, feels better in hand, stylus is a plus, and I got a free wireless charger for signing up for samsung pay.
Personally I prefer the note 5

sna66 said:
I had the edge 6 and switched to the note 5, I prefer the larger screen, feels better in hand, stylus is a plus, and I got a free wireless charger for signing up for samsung pay.
Personally I prefer the note 5
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I just switched myself. Tried signing up for Samsung pay but it won't take any of my 3 cards?
Sent from my SM-N920T using XDA Free mobile app

Note 5 is huge I prefer my old s6edge

David111jr said:
Over 80 views and no comments ?
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so no responses from you to the people who took time out to give you their feelings especially after you referenced your 80 views. I think most people think that phone decisions should be made by the end user after review and of course test driving a few at the stores. Also if you get jump on demand if you dont like one you can get the other.
So basically a thread asking for help with Google and a store to try things out at dont really make sense to me but with all that said did you choose a phone? No disrespect to you either these are just my thoughts... :good:

Exodus?

Just wondering, now that the Note 8 has been unveiled and we know for sure it's specs etc, are you inclined to jump ship from the S8+?
For me the differences are so minor. I wouldn't use the pen for instance, 0.1 inches bigger, big wow, 2 cameras, big deal, £100 dearer, not doing it for me.
My eyes are set on the LG V30, what about you?
[UPDATE]
After all the above, I'm actually writing this on a N8.
Blame the wife, her Z5 gave up the ghost and she loved the S8+ so much. What's a dutiful husband to do? Didn't make sense having 2 S8+'s, the rest is history.

Between what we already have on the new S series and all the Note 8 leaks we've been pretty aware of what we'll be doing after release for some time now. Maybe yesterday's reveal might have changed some minds of those on the fence but for the most part if you've been a Note user for a while you'll likely want to go back which is what I'll be doing eventually. Just not within the next month.
I prefer to wait at least a month just to monitor how the release has been going and see if there's any hardware issues. This caution on my part served me well last year when that whole Note 7 fiasco occurred. I was getting ready to jump on the new Note back then because my Note 5 was getting long in the tooth and I was dearly missing Micro SD support and the prospect of having a Note with a strong IP was just too tempting to pass up on. Luckily I held my ground after launch and realized what was going on with the batteries. I actually was going to pull the trigger right before the second recall happened. It wasn't meant to be. Hoping everything will be fine this time around with the Note 8 and I can finally, finally have both Micro SD and IP rating on my Note device. Finally.
This S8 Plus is sick but it's difficult to be without that S-Pen. If the Note series was only an S device with an S-Pen that would do it for me. The extra bump in specs that the Note series usually brings along with is just the cherry on top for me. I could take it or leave it but give me the S-Pen.

roaduardo said:
Between what we already have on the new S series and all the Note 8 leaks we've been pretty aware of what we'll be doing after release for some time now. Maybe yesterday's reveal might have changed some minds of those on the fence but for the most part if you've been a Note user for a while you'll likely want to go back which is what I'll be doing eventually. Just not within the next month.
I prefer to wait at least a month just to monitor how the release has been going and see if there's any hardware issues. This caution on my part served me well last year when that whole Note 7 fiasco occurred. I was getting ready to jump on the new Note back then because my Note 5 was getting long in the tooth and I was dearly missing Micro SD support and the prospect of having a Note with a strong IP was just too tempting to pass up on. Luckily I held my ground after launch and realized what was going on with the batteries. I actually was going to pull the trigger right before the second recall happened. It wasn't meant to be. Hoping everything will be fine this time around with the Note 8 and I can finally, finally have both Micro SD and IP rating on my Note device. Finally.
This S8 Plus is sick but it's difficult to be without that S-Pen. If the Note series was only an S device with an S-Pen that would do it for me. The extra bump in specs that the Note series usually brings along with is just the cherry on top for me. I could take it or leave it but give me the S-Pen.
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I get you, but bar some minor tweaking the Note 8 is just an S8+ with a £100 pencil stuck to the side, lol.

kxdaorbit said:
I get you, but bar some minor tweaking the Note 8 is just an S8+ with a pencil stuck to the side, lol.
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Which is exactly why I want it. That pencil is a game-changer for me, lol!

roaduardo said:
Which is exactly why I want it. That pencil is a game-changer for me, lol!
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Seriously, I'm just joking. I realise that for some folks productivity requirements, this is an essential piece of kit. Just that for me it's not an 'enterprise' or productivity tool, so I'd never use it. I just like messing with phones and the differences here would probably only satisfy my fix for a day or so.

kxdaorbit said:
Seriously, I'm just joking. I realise that for some folks productivity requirements, this is an essential piece of kit. Just that for me it's not an 'enterprise' or productivity tool, so I'd never use it. I just like messing with phones and the differences here would probably only satisfy my fix for a day or so.
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I've actually never even used any of my Note devices as an enterprise or productivity tool like their ads would suggest. I just prefer to enjoy interacting with my phone's display using that S-Pen. The built-in digitizer performs much, much, much better than any third party stylus can and the added tools built into the S-Pen makes things that much more easier to do various stuff.

Had the Note 7 and realized the pencil is just useless for me. Will stick to my S8+ and see what the Pixel XL 2 will bring.

Note 8 looks awesome its a beefed up version of the S8+ I’m deffo jumping ship i haven’t even used my S8+ it still got the factory stickers on mine i should have waited but with the NOTE 7 Fiasco i thought SAMSUNG wouldn’t release a new note till next year. but 6 gig ram and dual camera and dual sim roll on 24 September.

I'm definitely not jumping ship for one. I had a note 4 and I had so many performance & battery issues it wasn't funny. Plus the upgrades between the s8+ and note are so minute, the ram and the spen were the only thing holding me back. I just can't justify paying an extra few hundred dollars for it. I do miss my spen though...

For me, yes probably in a couple of months. I think my S8+ looks better and most lightly is better in hand as well but the S pen is what will make the difference for me.

Looks good, but not a fan of tbe spen and the minor changes. Dual cams and 6gb of ram is not worth the extra money. How much faster is 6gb of ram when multitasking?

ssgunner20 said:
Looks good, but not a fan of tbe spen and the minor changes. Dual cams and 6gb of ram is not worth the extra money. How much faster is 6gb of ram when multitasking?
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Almost imperceptible.... from what I read it will be most useful to post process photos because of the dual camera.
I'm bypass the note 8.
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Question about Wonda version

So I've seen most people order from Wonda mobile to get the snapdragon version.
My question is how has your overall experience been with the phone and have you come across any issues?

vidic17 said:
So I've seen most people order from Wonda mobile to get the snapdragon version.
My question is how has your overall experience been with the phone and have you come across any issues?
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I was one of the first members of this forum who got the phone from Wonda.
I made a pre-order, the phone launched somewhere at the end of the August and I got it around 5th of September (don't remember the exact date but it was less than a week). I did have an issue with my local postal service (they delivered the package to a wrong place) but this has nothing to do with Wonda.
The phone itself was brand new and factory sealed so no one ever opened it. The package was securely packed.
I've got headphones, charger, phone case and manuals in the box. Also, there was a pre-installed screen protector as well as preinstalled protectors on the back, top and bottom of the phone, all preinstalled ideally and by Samsung. This is a huge plus for me as I didn't need to buy any screen protector and the phone was protected from all sides. I always use Spiegen cases and the phone fitted in perfectly.
I removed the bottom protector recently as it peeled off a little and was annoying but all other protectors are still installed. Also the main screen protector developed a small bubble recently. Not a big deal but a bit annoying.
All worked flawlessly, out of the box - I popped in my UK sim card and it just worked.
Pretty much every feature works: 5G, VoLTE, WiFi calling, Samsung Pay (it does have Chinese promos though), Hiyya spam call filter. No bloatware installed.
The only thing that I didn't like is that stock Samsung Keyboard is different from Exynos version and much less comfortable as it is adapted to Chinese layout. So I had to install a 3rd party keyboard for the first time in 6 years.
Everything else works as expected, no Chinese symbols in any app, menus, etc. All is in English.
Also, no green tint or camera fog issue. No dead pixels.
I am not a gamer so can't tell anything about gaming but the phone itself works really well, no heating issues or micro lags. All just works and benchmark scores also match other Snapdragon Notes.
If you go with this device, bear in mind it has slower updates than Exynos version. Also, the camera seems to be a little better on Exynos as some people reported. For me, the camera is great, especially 5x optical zoom and 10x hybrid zoom in videos and photos. Its a killer feature.
I was a bit disappointed that there is no 2x-4x optical zoom. I thought everything up to 5x is optical but this is not correct - only 5x is optical, everything below and above is digital. Also bear in mind optical zoom and ultra wide mode don't work in 60fps video mode and 104mpx photo mode, only in 12mpx/30fps mode. I couldn't find a difference between 104mpx and 12mpx though, moreover, 12mpx looks better for me.
All in all I can't fault this device and definitely recommend it. Its a great phone and Wonda's service was really good.

vidic17 said:
So I've seen most people order from Wonda mobile to get the snapdragon version.
My question is how has your overall experience been with the phone and have you come across any issues?
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I've had my N20 Ultra Snapdragon from WondaMobile for a few months now as I sent the Exynos version back to Samsung UK due to issues.
I can tell it's a more powerful version and am very happy with the phone on all levels. It optimises much better than the Exynos version.
The only issue if you can call it that is the language was Chinese out of the box which is changed by the press of a button.
I removed the pre installed plastic screen protector as I prefer the Whitestone Dome Glass Screen Protector.
I don't use Samsung Pay as I prefer Google Pay.
I'm using an o2 sim card which is payg do I can't comment on 5G as I can't get it on my payg account.
It is dual sim.
WondaMobile apply a 12 month warranty.
Samsung Uk may not offer support to an imported Samsung phone as per their manufacturing warranty which to be honest is lame. It's about time they offered Snapdragon versions in the UK as a choice.
My phone is also covered by my Home Contents insurance.
It's good to see they've started this with the Samsung s20 fe albiet at £100 more than the Exynos version. I know it has 5G too but still !
Samsung know how to capitalise on people wanting the Snapdragon version !
WondaMobile are a reputable company and kept me informed along the way and delivered within a week.
The box is retail and was sealed and had all the accessories including the original eu i.e 3 pin Samsung Charger Brick inside. And a tpu case is inside which you don't get with the UK version. Winner winner.
Very happy.

Thanks so much for answering my questions. I'll probably order it when I get home. I know the new S21 ultra is out in January but I have no interest in it to be honest. I loved my note 4 and 8

vidic17 said:
Thanks so much for answering my questions. I'll probably order it when I get home. I know the new S21 ultra is out in January but I have no interest in it to be honest. I loved my note 4 and 8
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Worth looking into the 5g issues. I have the 9860, and like plenty of other people it will not connect to 5g.

vidic17 said:
So I've seen most people order from Wonda mobile to get the snapdragon version.
My question is how has your overall experience been with the phone and have you come across any issues?
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True but right now 5G doesn't bring enough for me to be a deal breaker.
Faster downloads with 5G isn't a biggie.

VirtualWaver said:
I was one of the first members of this forum who got the phone from Wonda.
I made a pre-order, the phone launched somewhere at the end of the August and I got it around 5th of September (don't remember the exact date but it was less than a week). I did have an issue with my local postal service (they delivered the package to a wrong place) but this has nothing to do with Wonda.
The phone itself was brand new and factory sealed so no one ever opened it. The package was securely packed.
I've got headphones, charger, phone case and manuals in the box. Also, there was a pre-installed screen protector as well as preinstalled protectors on the back, top and bottom of the phone, all preinstalled ideally and by Samsung. This is a huge plus for me as I didn't need to buy any screen protector and the phone was protected from all sides. I always use Spiegen cases and the phone fitted in perfectly.
I removed the bottom protector recently as it peeled off a little and was annoying but all other protectors are still installed. Also the main screen protector developed a small bubble recently. Not a big deal but a bit annoying.
All worked flawlessly, out of the box - I popped in my UK sim card and it just worked.
Pretty much every feature works: 5G, VoLTE, WiFi calling, Samsung Pay (it does have Chinese promos though), Hiyya spam call filter. No bloatware installed.
The only thing that I didn't like is that stock Samsung Keyboard is different from Exynos version and much less comfortable as it is adapted to Chinese layout. So I had to install a 3rd party keyboard for the first time in 6 years.
Everything else works as expected, no Chinese symbols in any app, menus, etc. All is in English.
Also, no green tint or camera fog issue. No dead pixels.
I am not a gamer so can't tell anything about gaming but the phone itself works really well, no heating issues or micro lags. All just works and benchmark scores also match other Snapdragon Notes.
If you go with this device, bear in mind it has slower updates than Exynos version. Also, the camera seems to be a little better on Exynos as some people reported. For me, the camera is great, especially 5x optical zoom and 10x hybrid zoom in videos and photos. Its a killer feature.
I was a bit disappointed that there is no 2x-4x optical zoom. I thought everything up to 5x is optical but this is not correct - only 5x is optical, everything below and above is digital. Also bear in mind optical zoom and ultra wide mode don't work in 60fps video mode and 104mpx photo mode, only in 12mpx/30fps mode. I couldn't find a difference between 104mpx and 12mpx though, moreover, 12mpx looks better for me.
All in all I can't fault this device and definitely recommend it. Its a great phone and Wonda's service was really good.
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What sim card are you using.
How did you get 5G, VoLTE, WiFi calling, all to work?

FWIW I bought my N9860 from T-Dimension in the UK. Price is lower than Wonda and delivery took nine days, but otherwise the experience is as above. I can't test for 5G service with my SIMs as none support 5G. Word is that Vodafone should be OK, but EE 5G is not working. There is a separate thread on this topic.
Members app was Hong Kong oriented on arrival, but is now behaving more like UK. No beta sign-up possible though.

Hows the battery life how long does it last between charges

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Hows the battery life how long does it last between charges
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I typically charge my phone up while powered down overnight every night but with my set up and preferences I'd easily get two days usage.

Should I buy one now

Hi All,
I was wondering what you guys think of the phone now 8 months down the line. I am getting this at a good price around £650 for a good condition used phone on ebay. I was wondering if you guys think most of its problems have been fixed by now.
Just to give you a background, I currently have a note 9 and frankly I am very happy with this phone but it is old now and I am itching to upgrade to something newer, primarily for the cameras and 120hz refresh rate. I did buy the S21 ultra on pre-order but was really disappointed with the camera performance as I found the images my exynos variant produced to be very soft and noisy and not as sharp/clear as my note 9 and overall the phone felt like a big compromise (no s-pen, no sd card, no headphone jack) after paying £1300, so I sent it back. The camera and screen are the primary reasons for me to upgrade and I expect at least decent battery life (maybe 6-7 hours SOT with youtube abd browsing). I do use the S-Pen every now and then and think it would be a good to have. I know the note 20 ultra doesnt support WQHD+ and 120hz at the same time but at the price im getting it at i think this is a compromise i am willing to make since i mostly use my phone at FHD+ anyway and I can barely tell the difference.
I know there was talk about the exynos variant being bad when compared to the SD 865+ version but frankly I am not a gamer and dont need my phone to be ultra powerful. But what i would like to know from you guys is whether the software updates over the past 8 months have fixed most of the issues with battery life and camera performance. Those of you coming from the s10 range or the note 10+ / Note 9 etc. How would you say the camera is on the Note 20 U? Do you guys think its a good buy now? Or should I just give it a miss and hang on to the note 9 till they stop the security patches? Any advise is appreciated.

I have a mate who upgraded from the Note 9 to the Note 20 Ultra. He was VERY impressed with the differences...
He has the Exynos variant but when there is no other phones to compare but what you already have he's happy...
It all comes down to you, go to a store, play with a demo version and make up your mind.

I've upgraded from S10e Exynos with 4,5 screen on time maximum and terrible idle battery drain to Note 20 Ultra Snapdragon. First week was thinking to give it back because it was too big for me and those rounded edges always made me typos. Then I've get used to it, set the keyboard paddings from edges and finally bought nice case (I never used any cases before) and now I'm totally happy with it. I as far as I've read it's almost impossible to get 7-8 screen on time on Exynos variant. I got around 7 on my Snapdragon version but never tested it with gaming so I can not tell yet how good the battery is. I can tell that Qualcomm modem is much better in sense of keeping good connection and speed and very good keeping battery in idle state. Considering the camera - it's much better that in my old S10e ofcourse but I don't use it often so can't say I care about it much. What I love about my new Note 20 ultra Snapdragon is I've rooted it to tweak some small things here and there and now totally feel it's mine. I've rooted my past phones around 5 years ago last time.
Not sure if anything I said will help you but if you have any questions I would be glad to answer.

Thanks guys really useful. As mentioned I don't really need a new phone as my current phone does pretty much what I need it to. But I am itching to upgrade and I don't want to end up being stuck with something that I feel is not as good as my current phone. I currently average 4-5 hours screen on time on my 2 year old note 9 which I think is good for an old phone so hoping to get more. The S21U was good battery wise I got 7 hours SOT with 10% remaining. But the cameras were a let down for the price. I might just wait a couple of months and pick one used if they fix the camera with software updates as the price difference doesn't seem that much like a barely used S21U is going for around 850 on ebay so might be worth the extra 200 vs the note 20 ultra. Especially because I heard a lot of bad things about the n20u battery in particular.

Hi, @eldrid
I upgraded (downgraded considering the cost/storage, lol) from the Note9 (512GB) to the Note20 Ultra (128GB) with Android 11/One UI 3.1.
Have you considered replacing the battery in your Note9? Maybe have the battery replaced and purchase the N20U?
I don't use the camera much, but hopefully one of the forum members will give you some feedback on the N9 vs N20U cameras.
I can hear the Note20 Ultra camera *rattle* but I think this is normal??
If you purchase the N20, you may not want to update the phone to Android 11 (scoped storage, bugs galore, etc...).
I enjoy using the N9 more than the N20U because of the OS and the apps function without issue.
I detest Android 11, ahem, and think it contributes to my attitude of the N20U. N9 is the Beast!

I haven't had note 9 earlier but for me the note 20 ultra is perfect.
We get 1080p with 120hz (sure only 1080p but battery friendly and do you even notice higher res on regular basis?)
Sdcard slot, perfect for pictures, movies, big files and so on, also very easy to swap. (cloud exist but what about vacation or if u got limited data)
Very good cameras, still one of the best out there.
Very good performance with snapdragon 865+, even the exynos one is good. Recent updates have made it better than release version.
S-pen in a slot, no ugly weird case and all functions works perfectly.
The design is also very modern and future proof, I mean the front is almost all display.
People even speculate that this could be the last note ever, so if I were u, I would really consider note 20u if u liked your note 9 and want something better.

I've had my Note 20 Ultra Exynos version since launch, and it's a lot better now than it was when it first came out in both battery life & performance, I also don't game on phone's so it's been more than fine for me.
The camera has also been on point for me as well I've not been disappointed with any pictures or videos I've taken with it.
For 650 quid i think it's well worth it for what you get.

Thanks a ton guys for the honest advice. I finally picked an almost new one for £650 on ebay. They offer a 30 day return so fingers crossed i hope it works out. I won't be selling my note 9 just yet so I will have some time to compare side by side and see what it's like. I am sure it's an upgrade in many regards. But the three key things for me are 1)screen and I'm sure that's great I don't use wqhd and will be perfectly happy with the adaptive 1080 120hz. 2)The cameras... This is one area I am not sure how it will be... This is a very subjective area but I like my images to be sharp and I noticed on the S21U the images were soft and fuzzy not crisp like on the note 9. And 3) is battery life... I still get around 5 hours from the note 9 which is great so I hope to get at least that much. Will keep you guys posted on how it goes over the next few days. I feel like @650 there won't be much to complain about. I was really upset with the s21 ultra as I had paid full price for it and it (£1300) and it felt like a downgrade. Seems like the more modern Samsung phones while powerful are compromising on the basics and are not what they used to be 2 years ago.

Finally got the note20u and frankly I am quite happy with it. I am getting pretty good SOT and plus i used Bluetooth headphones for at least an hour. Considering that I think the battery life is good. Also the camera software seems to be ironed out and the image sharpness is much better than the current image quality on the S21U 1st pic is from note 20u and 2nd from s21u. Overall I think it was a good buy. I would never recommend anyone buying a Samsung phone at launch as the software is very unpolished and you pay a huge amount for an unfinished product. Comparing the experience i have with this nearly new note 20u for 650 is great compared to the ****ty experience the s21u offers for £1200 plus no sd card support or charger in the box. Very good value overall at £650

I upgraded from my still pristine Note 9 and found it a very worthy successor. From the enhanced Dex and S-pen features to the improved cameras, the Note 20 Ultra has provided me with a great user experience. Given Samsung's quest for becoming more -like and shedding features left and right, the Note 20 Ultra is the closest to what the Note line once was: the no holds barred, everything but the kitchen sink, no compromises, Note. I don't know if there is a Note 21 Ultra in the works and if there is it will probably include less features than the Note 20 Ultra offers.

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I upgraded from my still pristine Note 9 and found it a very worthy successor. From the enhanced Dex and S-pen features to the improved cameras, the Note 20 Ultra has provided me with a great user experience. Given Samsung's quest for becoming more -like and shedding features left and right, the Note 20 Ultra is the closest to what the Note line once was: the no holds barred, everything but the kitchen sink, no compromises, Note. I don't know if there is a Note 21 Ultra in the works and if there is it will probably include less features than the Note 20 Ultra offers.
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Absolutely agree. Probably why i was finding it hard to part with my note 9 as well. What a great 0 compromise device. I really hate how Samsung were originally the anti apple and a premium alternative for those that didn't want to chain themselves to apple. But now they're becoming more like apple taking away our choice.
Rumours are that there will be a watered down fan edition only this year and that the s-pen toting phone is going to be the fold from now on. If its true its a poor farewell to the note. I say they should bring back the headphone jack, sd card and pack the box with goodies. Make the whole experience of buying a premium flagship feel premium again.

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Absolutely agree. Probably why i was finding it hard to part with my note 9 as well. What a great 0 compromise device. I really hate how Samsung were originally the anti apple and a premium alternative for those that didn't want to chain themselves to apple. But now they're becoming more like apple taking away our choice.
Rumours are that there will be a watered down fan edition only this year and that the s-pen toting phone is going to be the fold from now on. If its true its a poor farewell to the note. I say they should bring back the headphone jack, sd card and pack the box with goodies. Make the whole experience of buying a premium flagship premium again.
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The 10+ was the last Note before Q. After Q things started going south and 11 is even worse.
Between Android and Samsung's "improvements" it's been a dismal year.
Everything's coming up psuedo Apples... and I mean that in the most derogatory way.
As for the Fold series it has been a self made disaster for Samsung. Overpriced and unreliable.
Samsung, you do know the definition of insanity don't you? Apparently not.

Late to the party here but I'm happy with my N20 Ultra 5G Snapdragon soc I imported from Hong Kong.
I wouldn't of been keen to buy a used phone from ebay due to the amount that get imei locked a few weeks / months after receiving it.

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I wouldn't of been keen to buy a used phone from ebay due to the amount that get imei locked a few weeks / months after receiving it.
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How can you avoid that from happening 100%?
Is it that common?

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How can you avoid that from happening 100%?
Is it that common?
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It's something I've come across way too often throughout the years on forums.
A person sells a phone on ebay and then fraudulently claims it lost or stolen.
Auction Sites need to tighten up and introduce even more protection for the buyer as well as the seller.

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It's something I've come across way too often throughout the years on forums.
A person sells a phone on ebay and then fraudulently claims it lost or stolen.
Auction Sites need to tighten up and introduce even more protection for the buyer as well as the seller.
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Doing that in the USA be incurring multiple federal felonies.

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Late to the party here but I'm happy with my N20 Ultra 5G Snapdragon soc I imported from Hong Kong.
I wouldn't of been keen to buy a used phone from ebay due to the amount that get imei locked a few weeks / months after receiving it.
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Damn didn't know that happens. I got mine from a business seller with 100% ratings so looks like hes been at it for a while with no issues. He claims the phones are customer returns from the official Samsung store and would barely have any usage if at all. And everything looked the part it seemed brand spanking new, scratchless and even no signs wear or dust in the usb c port. Also he had a whole batch of 7-8 to sell so everything sounded legit. Let's hope everything works out well.
On a separate note. I thought id use the phone without a screen protector for a few days while the tempered glass one I ordered arrives and so removed the factory one. After a day or so i have already noticed a couple of micro scratches on the screen visible at certain angles. This is with careful use at home. I feel like this whole gorilla glass thing is just market hype.

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Doing that in the USA be incurring multiple federal felonies.
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I wouldn't worry about it too much. The only reason someone would do that is to be malicious and most people are not. I doubt the seller has a personal vendetta against you. He got his money and will move on.
I have had the N20U since release and have no issues and at this point is a good as it gets functionally.