Camera Random Rattle - Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers

Does anyone else note 20 U camera rattle at random time? Even when you're not in the camera app, like I'm browsing around and I would hear the camera rattle or switch mode. It would randomy make the same sound when you switch from photo to video.
But with camera on in multi window mode it doesn't do the random rattle sound any more when browsing around. Not sure if my camera or note 20 U camera is loose inside the phone or is this happening for others?
Example of this here: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=WTFsZGNBZU5tU0ZsOEdNQmVHanBXdlB0bXc1TGdB

MrPhilo said:
Does anyone else note 20 U camera rattle at random time? Even when you're not in the camera app, like I'm browsing around and I would hear the camera rattle or switch mode. It would randomy make the same sound when you switch from photo to video.
But with camera on in multi window mode it doesn't do the random rattle sound any more when browsing around. Not sure if my camera or note 20 U camera is loose inside the phone or is this happening for others?
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Random Rattle???? Just shake the thing it is loud as can be.

so i believe its normal, MKBHD mentioned it in his review video. as to why this is normal or a thing (which mine does) im not sure.

yep totally normal and to be expected due to the design of the camera.

I don't have one but my note 10+ had a little bit of one in camera. Not really helpful sorry
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MrPhilo said:
Does anyone else note 20 U camera rattle at random time? Even when you're not in the camera app, like I'm browsing around and I would hear the camera rattle or switch mode. It would randomy make the same sound when you switch from photo to video.
But with camera on in multi window mode it doesn't do the random rattle sound any more when browsing around. Not sure if my camera or note 20 U camera is loose inside the phone or is this happening for others?
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It is because of zoom lens and optical stabilization of cameras

It's a feature by accident apparently...
Instead of having a landing zone i.e. parking feature so it doesn't rattle...
It's loose so everyone shakes them and the subsequent rattling cleans off the dust and other FOD from the elements.
Of course if the sensor gets dirty...
Another fetish! Let's shake our phones like crazy!
So to solve another problem (not enough battery), make a dummy S pen with a neodymium magnet that slides within. All that shaking moves the magnet in and out of the charging coil and the resulting EMF can charge the battery. Like a shake light, five minutes of shaking gives you an extra 10 minutes of talk time! LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz3SBY8zj8w

force70 said:
yep totally normal and to be expected due to the design of the camera.
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hoss_n2 said:
It is because of zoom lens and optical stabilization of cameras
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Yeah I mean the rattle is fine because of the system.
But say I pick up my phone on my table and use it. It would make the same sound from changing to photo to video 2 second later when I use the phone. Is that actually normal? Because any slight movement it would make that sound.
Heres a video for example. Does anyone else do this?
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=WTFsZGNBZU5tU0ZsOEdNQmVHanBXdlB0bXc1TGdB

Similar to my mirrorless camera with IBIS (Internal Body Image Stabilization). It's the lens shake rather than sensor shake. So I always remind my friends and even myself who have phone with OIS camera, don't shake or knock on the phone purposely (some people like to fidget with phone). Just imaging knocking the lens on table, it hurts.

It's the periscope lens that makes the sound. Zak shows this in his JerryRig teardown of the S20 Ultra. It has the same periscope camera lens.
https://youtu.be/k-OZVWcyN5w?t=338

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[Q] Rear camera - clicking noise

Hi Guys,
Yesterday I wanted to record some videos, I opened camera software, pressed to switch between front a rear camera, then I heard this clicking noise.
From now, this noise is always when I turn rear camera on, or switching from front to rear, also I can feel that something is moving inside when I touch rear camera cover, it's like the aperture would be opening and closing and making that noise.
It's noting serous, everything is working, camera is working fine, tablet is ok as well.
Does anyone has experienced this as well?
What do you reckon, should I bringing back to the store and get a new one?
Waiting for your thoughts on this.
thx
I also noticed it, but with me it sounds more like the shutter (for as far as it is present) opening, just like with a normal camera. Unless you here something rattling near the camera when you shake your TF, I wouldn't make a big problem out of it.
It's an annoying noise, but it's normal. You'll just have to live with it.
ELTinos , you are right , it sounds more like the shutter, I can also hear it when I put tablet back to live after sleep mode when camera software is running.
it's not that annoying but I am concern that this is something that came up just now, I tested camera before and didn't get that noise but if you guys are saying that's normal, then I am calm.
Any more thoughts on this?
Sounds normal to me. My HTC Hero had this from the beginning... Camera is still working after 1,5 years so I don't think you need to worry
Thanks flight777
Just more info, to be more clear on this:
-Clicking Noise doesn't come from speakers
-It's only when I switch back from front camera to rear camera, also when in the rear camera mode, switching between : taking picture <-> record videos
If you could test it as well on your TF
thx Guys , appreciate your responses
It is rear camera's autofocus (solenoid moving lense). It can be also heard while turning on from coplete off.
sokol79 said:
Thanks flight777
Just more info, to be more clear on this:
-Clicking Noise doesn't come from speakers
-It's only when I switch back from front camera to rear camera, also when in the rear camera mode, switching between : taking picture <-> record videos
If you could test it as well on your TF
thx Guys , appreciate your responses
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As been said before, it's just the shutter lens, stop making a big deal out of it.
Rear clicking noise too
yeah, mine just started clicking today...after 2 years with the nexus one.
i can see the lens pulsing when the clicking occurs.
hmmm....
kaneb80 said:
yeah, mine just started clicking today...after 2 years with the nexus one.
i can see the lens pulsing when the clicking occurs.
hmmm....
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You talking about the N1 or the TF?

Shaking the S6 makes a clicking sound

At first i thought something was broken inside my brand now S6 but apparently its the OIS of the camera. When the camera is inactive the OIS is loose and when shaking the phone fast it makes a (clicking) sound. When I activated the camera the sound was gone no matter how hard I would shake the phone. I hope thats how the phone is made and I don't have a defective unit. Please let me know if anyone else has noticed that. Thanks.
As far as I know, every phone with OIS will make this noise to a certain extent. On some phones it is more easy to hear, on others its harder, but it is still there nevertheless. No need to worry about it.
derWolf_ said:
As far as I know, every phone with OIS will make this noise to a certain extent. On some phones it is more easy to hear, on others its harder, but it is still there nevertheless. No need to worry about it.
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Thanks man. I had a Note 4 before and never noticed that.
All phones make noise if you shake it even if it doesnt have OIS its usually the autofocusing mechanism.
That's normal for cameras with the OIS. I'm not sure how they exactly work in smartphones, but my Olympus OM-D for example uses a magnetic field for the 5-axis sensor stabilization. So once the camera is turned on the sensor is basically floating in a magnetic field, and when it's turned off it's "loose" - that's where the noise comes from. Nothing to worry about, it's normal.
MysteriousDiary said:
That's normal for cameras with the OIS. I'm not sure how they exactly work in smartphones, but my Olympus OM-D for example uses a magnetic field for the 5-axis sensor stabilization. So once the camera is turned on the sensor is basically floating in a magnetic field, and when it's turned off it's "loose" - that's where the noise comes from. Nothing to worry about, it's normal.
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Yep, I just tested my S6, and if the camera is on, there is definitely less clicking sounds coming from the camera when you shake it.
iPhone 6+ does not makes that sound.
eortizr said:
iPhone 6+ does not makes that sound.
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In daily usage you usually don't really notice it. It's not that loud and takes a bit of shaking. Otherwise they might keep the VCM powered up all the time, but that would be a waste of battery life.
I was freaking out.. Thank you!
eortizr said:
iPhone 6+ does not makes that sound.
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It does bend though.
perikach said:
At first i thought something was broken inside my brand now S6 but apparently its the OIS of the camera. When the camera is inactive the OIS is loose and when shaking the phone fast it makes a (clicking) sound. When I activated the camera the sound was gone no matter how hard I would shake the phone. I hope thats how the phone is made and I don't have a defective unit. Please let me know if anyone else has noticed that. Thanks.
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I have a s6 that only makes noises when camera app is open.
A sound of moving parts like and sale camera focusing.
If the app is open if if I tap near the camera I can always reproduce the sound.
What could it be. I have an defective phone?
Help
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ruianast said:
I have a s6 that only makes noises when camera app is open.
A sound of moving parts like and sale camera focusing.
If the app is open if if I tap near the camera I can always reproduce the sound.
What could it be. I have an defective phone?
Help
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Mine does the clicking sound when off and sometimes when you open the camera app, the OIS mechanism start to shake until obtains focus, kinda scary, I think is showing signs of something malfunctioning .
Yes that is what happens to me.
It's not a good sign. I don't know what to do and if it is normal
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Yes. I am getting the clicking sound when opening the cam app as well. Camera works fine afterwards though. How can it be fixed?
This is normal. It's the OIS elements of the rear camera shaking around when electronically deactivated.
This is not a fault and is part of the normal operation of a mobile OIS camera.
Once activated it shouldn't audibly shake. It's operation is similar to most stabilization gimbles when unpowered.
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genetichazzard said:
This is normal. It's the OIS elements of the rear camera shaking around when electronically deactivated.
This is not a fault and is part of the normal operation of a mobile OIS camera.
Once activated it shouldn't audibly shake. It's operation is similar to most stabilization gimbles when unpowered.
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Thanks for the reply but is it also normal that the OIS mechanism shakes until focus is obtained after starting the camera app?
The clicking sound is also present in my S6 with the camera app off. Turning it on romoves the clicking sound.
roydok said:
The clicking sound is also present in my S6 with the camera app off. Turning it on romoves the clicking sound.
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Normal, all OIS systems (even those in my $3000 lenses) rattle a little when not powered (and make a faint noise when operating in the case of the lenses).
I'm also experiencing the OIS shake upon opening the camera app on my s6. It's done it twice today - I open the camera app and the image shows blurry as it struggles to focus, the lens shakes quite vigorously, making the phone vibrate, it makes a loud clicking noise and the image shakes, firstly for around 10 secs, then around 5 secs the 2nd time it happened. It's happened in both Samsung camera and Snapchat.
Running French OTA 5.1.1 on S6.
Anyone else having this? Is this usual behaviour or a sign of a defective unit?
Anyone else having this issue? I'm getting the OIS shake nearly every time I open the camera app now...
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Question Sounds coming from camera module?

Hi, I recently got my Xperia 5 iii and I noticed whenever an app accesses the camera there's an audible 'click' and I can feel a small vibration in the device.
Does this happen on anyone else's device? Or I got a dud? Pictures seem fine switching between the lenses work.
At 1st I thought it was the magnetic system in the zoom lenses but I don't notice this when switching between the zoom lenses.
Its normal
TrigrH said:
Its normal
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Thanks.
yes it's normal.....was weird for me to at the beginning.....its theclense working while activating the canera.
I can hear clicking in the cameras when moving with phone quickly or shaking it. Even if camera app is not open. Does someone have that also? I assume it is optical stabilization rattling but not sure. Taking pictures seems ok. Although I notice very little shaking when taking pictures with 70/105 lens. Can someone confirm on your device? Thx.
ANDREW007CZ said:
I can hear clicking in the cameras when moving with phone quickly or shaking it. Even if camera app is not open. Does someone have that also? I assume it is optical stabilization rattling but not sure. Taking pictures seems ok. Although I notice very little shaking when taking pictures with 70/105 lens. Can someone confirm on your device? Thx.
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Everyone has this
On mine, there is also faint electronics-sounding noise coming from the earpiece speaker (when the camera app is open, and the main camera is selected). I assume the speaker amplifier is picking up interference from the camera electronics.
Hi! Xperia 1 III owner here. It's normal that you here those clicks, it makes noises because of the moving lenses in the periscope cam. When you open the camera it move the lenses in place. And when you shake the device it clicks because you're retarded and shake it unpurposely the lenses are moving because of the kinetic forces
normal....no worries

Question S22 ultra not switching to 10x tele lens until zoomed till 14x

I have two snapdragon s22 ultra one purchased last week another a month ago
Whenever I reach 10x zoom slider (either directly or even by sliding, from any lens) it switches to 10x lens for a split second and then switches back to 3x lens and zooms digitally.
This happens irrespective of lighting conditions and distance of subject.
Comparing both my s22 ultras side by side I was able to confirm that this problem exists only in one of the phone and not in the other model that phone keeps 10x optical zoom and does not switching to 3x zoom.
Options
A. Any solution to this problem would be highly appreciated?
B. Want to keep formatting as last option.
C. The phone is just 7 days old shall i take it to service centre.
One possible clue, I can make that happen on my S22U in situations where the 3X lens can focus, but the 10X lens can't, for example something about 6 inches away. Then the switchover is delayed as you zoom until about 14x. I'm not sure if it is using the laser ranging for that situation or not, but possibly if the laser thinks you are close, for example taking a picture through glass on a window, it might not switch to the 10x lens until 14x.
But as I said I have another unit at my home.. thuis one constantly switch only after 15 x and not 10x. The other unit is doing perfectly fine for same subject
ryudhruv said:
But as I said I have another unit at my home.. thuis one constantly switch only after 15 x and not 10x. The other unit is doing perfectly fine for same subject
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Return it. I had a similar problem with a Verizon 10+5g with the wide angle lens. Frequent camera error messages turned into always camera error message when selecting wide angle. Sometimes a tap on the corner to a hard surface would fix it but that stopped as a solution after a few times.
I would say if possible, return or change it. My first one was no issue with camera but heating issue.. replaced one; Most of the time randomly pick the regular lens instead of 10x lens. Also at 10x zoom color suddenly changes to fuzzy and dull.
Replaced. This one no color issue but 10x n 30x n 100x has focus issue. Cant focus correctly, output image is most of the time blurry which my first ome had no issue. But i decided to keep as i dont have that time to go n chamge again. I also don't keep phone too long, and i rarely take pic.
ryudhruv said:
I have two snapdragon s22 ultra one purchased last week another a month ago
Whenever I reach 10x zoom slider (either directly or even by sliding, from any lens) it switches to 10x lens for a split second and then switches back to 3x lens and zooms digitally.
This happens irrespective of lighting conditions and distance of subject.
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How can we know which lens is being used by the phone at 10x? I want to confirm if my unit is not faulty.
linom said:
How can we know which lens is being used by the phone at 10x? I want to confirm if my unit is not faulty.
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After taking the picture check in the picture details the focal length:
10x lens has 27,2 mm
3x lens has 7,9 mm
1x lens has 6,4 mm
0,6x lens has 2,2 mm
You can also just put your finger in front of the lenses to see which one it is using.
I have the same problem here
Any way to solve it?
I've seen this happen in low light. The Periscope 10x zoom is f/4.9, while the 3x zoom is f/2.4. I don't know what the optics of the periscope are, but with the extra reflections/prisms the "t-stop" is probable closer to 5.6 for the periscope lens. That means that the 10x lens gathers approximately 4 times less light, and sometimes the phone seems to stick with cropping the brighter 3x lens in low light because there just isn't enough light. Sometimes in really low light it seems to use the main lens as well.
brachiopod said:
I've seen this happen in low light. The Periscope 10x zoom is f/4.9, while the 3x zoom is f/2.4. I don't know what the optics of the periscope are, but with the extra reflections/prisms the "t-stop" is probable closer to 5.6 for the periscope lens. That means that the 10x lens gathers approximately 4 times less light, and sometimes the phone seems to stick with cropping the brighter 3x lens in low light because there just isn't enough light. Sometimes in really low light it seems to use the main lens as well.
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Sure, but it's strange, because my dad's s22 ultra does not do this, only mine, in same condition. Thinking about changing phone, its my 3 galaxy with problem
Do you think have any way to solve it?
use the expertraw
GabNeumann said:
Sure, but it's strange, because my dad's s22 ultra does not do this, only mine, in same condition. Thinking about changing phone, its my 3 galaxy with problem
Do you think have any way to solve it?
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There is definitely some weird logic that dictates which lens it will use regardless of the zoom level that you request. Is there enough light, can I focus, is the subject too close for the 10x lens or are they shooting through glass and the laser misreads the distance as really close; if one of those things is true it switches lenses.. It happens when you try to take a macro shot too, you can't really control which lens it is going to use and a lot of times you get a crop view that is lower quality from one of the main lenses instead of what you wanted. I've played around with it a lot, and I'm still not sure exactly what it is doing. For example, start out with the 10x zoom about 10 feet from something, then move closer and closer. At some point you will see a little jump in the image as it switches to one of the other lenses without telling you. Then back away slowly, and it does not appear to switch back, keeping the crop from the other lens; I don't know when it switches back. Still, it should not happen all the time, especially with good light and a good subject that is far enough away for the 10x, it COULD be a hardware problem with your device but you also could be falling victim to the complex logic they are using.
Hi All. Similar problem. I was taking close ups of flowers using the PHOTO mode... I had blotchy results at 10x. I did some investigations. It turned out that when using the PRO mode, all was well. I first thought that it was some weird image processing that Samsung did, but that's not true. The truth is that the phone used the 3x camera at 10x magnification on the PHOTO mode! I then discovered that it only switched to the telephoto lens at precisely 15x magnification. Very weird. I can get very good results at 15x. But, when using PRO, the switch occurs at 10x. Samsung - what is going on? It looks like purely a software issue? Paul
Update: I've just restarted the phone. All back to normal and as intended. Lenses switch at precisely 10x.
Update 2: No, this is not due to a restart. The same issue again. The switch sometimes takes place at 10x, but if the phone is to close to the object, the switch will take place at precisely 15x. Super weird and inconsistent.
Update 3: Ok, so the switch between the lenses (on the PHOTO mode) is dictated by the distance between the object and the camera. If the phone is too close to the object, the phone will want to use the 3x lens. Absolutely no issue for long distance shots. These switch at 10x. You have to be super carful with telephoto closeups as you can basically ruin the shot thinking that you are on the 10x lens but in fact you are on the 3x lens. The PRO mode does not have that issue, but then changing iso and shutter speed are a bit hit and miss as well.
Worst still, this is also happening on the VIDEO mode.
For me the middle lens out of three is used for 1&3 zoom and small lens under flash is used for 10x in standard mode. At least kind of, seems to switch depending on distance and also the lower of the three is used for 10x sometimes......
When in pro or expert raw it behave less erratic and uses the lens I choose.
Highly annoying tbh.
I recently discovered this issue and its really embarrassing. Not many of us will go into pro mode and fiddle but as a simple point and shoot. This is terrible.
I am on the latest Software AVF7. My 10x photos keep looking like trash and there is a lot of light around. But i discovered that if you open a picture within the gallery while at 10x zoom and return to the view finder, it switches to the optical and stays. Has to be a bug rather than a defect.
It doesn't seem to be an app bug. I am also on AVF7 and cannot replicate the fault. If it is an app bug, then resetting the camera, clearing the camera app's cache and data should clear it up.
How to verify if this problem is also on my default samsung camera? As far as I'm using my phone, I saw nothing wrong with those zoom lens, but just want to check to make sure.
roffemckivi said:
For me the middle lens out of three is used for 1&3 zoom and small lens under flash is used for 10x in standard mode.
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Does this also happen daytimes outside and at distances >2 m?
gernerttl said:
It doesn't seem to be an app bug. I am also on AVF7 and cannot replicate the fault. If it is an app bug, then resetting the camera, clearing the camera app's cache and data should clear it up.
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Did all the above and still the same. Sigh

Question Something moving inside my pixel 7 pro

Hi everybody,
i noticed something inside is not in place when i shake my pixel 7 pro.
Do you notice the same thing when you shake your pixel 7 pro ?
I suppose it's camera related. Maybe the lens.
I don't know if it's an issue to everybody. My photo module is well fixed and nothing move, i don't know if it's the lens. It seems to be inside. All i can say is that my pixel 7 pro is new ( less than 5 days) and he never fell down
Likely the OIS sensor from the telephoto zoom lens.
Lughnasadh said:
Likely the OIS sensor from the telephoto zoom lens.
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ok so you have the same issue ? Do i need to be careful and not shaking him too much ?
gbsatti67000 said:
ok so you have the same issue ? Do i need to be careful and not shaking him too much ?
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Nah, don't worry about it.
This is why your Pixel 6/6 Pro makes noise when you shake it
Is your Pixel 6 or 6 Pro making a weird clicking sound when you shake it? You're not alone. Here's what it is.
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It's the telephoto. Had the same issue with the S21 Ultra, and likely the S22 Ultra but never had one so can't confirm. If rooted there was a fix for the S21 Ultra if I recall, not sure the same would apply to the 7 Pro.
"issue" has been around in some phones since the S20 Ultra
it's the telephoto lense
Thank you everybody for you answers ! So no need to worry about that
https://imgur.com/a/GFCD3EF
this is how mine rattles, it sounds worse in the video though. I think it's normal.
Every phone with a telephoto I've used has the same rattle. Not a problem.
Just noticed I have the same issue and was admittedly pissed until I read this thread. What's weird is it wasn't doing this out of the box it somehow eased into doing this... I went through all the Sounds files for ringtones last night ... Wonder if the vibrations loosen something up. Glad you posted though
I directly checked mine and it also has this "issue". But I also checked my Huawei P30 Pro which also has tele, but there is nothing.
klark1kent said:
Just noticed I have the same issue and was admittedly pissed until I read this thread. What's weird is it wasn't doing this out of the box it somehow eased into doing this... I went through all the Sounds files for ringtones last night ... Wonder if the vibrations loosen something up. Glad you posted though
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I'm pretty confident it was, you simply didn't notice it.
You can try and trigger the OIS on the telephoto and hear if the sound is as alarming as before, and just to make sure, go to 30x zoom and not 5x, Google doesn't always trigger the telephoto lens.
It's either the Telephoto lens or the Image stabilization. It's not an "issue". Completely normal.
Even if I shake my 1200$ DSLR lens I'll hear similar rattling inside (mechanical parts moving, image stabilization is mechanical)
Google (well whoever makes the periscope lens) have done a good job with the Pixel 7 Pro i reckon, the noise is quite subdued, the Pixel 6 Pro however sounded like a rattle and Bez could have used it at a Happy Mondays gig.
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Google (well whoever makes the periscope lens) have done a good job with the Pixel 7 Pro i reckon, the noise is quite subdued, the Pixel 6 Pro however sounded like a rattle and Bez could have used it at a Happy Mondays gig.
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For those who get this reference, will certainly get the reference
Now Jerryrigeverything has ripped a P7P to bits you can see why the periscope lens rattles.
Shebee said:
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this is how mine rattles, it sounds worse in the video though. I think it's normal.
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I have fallen down my Pixel, and I noticed the noise, and I found this post.
Maybe some noise is not by the OIS? I have made some tests.
1. Use 5x camera. Shake from left to right.
2. Use 5x camera. Shake from front to back.
3. Use 1x camera. Shake from left to right.
4. Use 1x camera. Shake from front to back.
As in the video.
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I noticed that only "1" has no noise, maybe the reason is the OIS is being used?
All the other "2 3 4" has noise, the "4" 's noise in the video is not so clear, but actually it's the same with "2".
The noise between "Shake from left to right" and "Shake from front to back" is different. Maybe the noise of "Shake from front to back" is caused by my fallen down's breaks, not by the OIS? I am so disturbing...

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