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Hello I am a grad student looking for bugs, apps, system configurations, or anything else that drains the battery of android devices unnaturally fast (especially Motorola's DroidX, but really any Android phone). I've been reading the forums a lot already and have a good understanding of all the basic issues that will drain the battery expectedly (GPS, wifi/radio, CPU, over clocking, frequent app syncing, etc).
I am NOT looking for an app to extend battery my life or trying to keep my phone running longer. I'm looking for repeatable software/configurations/bugs (especially version numbers) of things that kill battery performance.
I'm hoping to compile these into a characteristic study that helps me and my fellow students create system tools that will help everyone automatically find and fix battery issues.
Thanks for your help.
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basically just having a lot of widgets on your screens or even having tasks running will drain battery. I've noticed htc phones have the worst problem with battery cause they run off of sense UI and that takes more battery then lets say the droid x running off of the moto UI
There are alot of things that can and will drain your battery. Your screen brightness to high, especially since these newer phones have fancier screens that look great but kill the battery, as well as lighter, white wallpaper will also kill your battery.
Apps that will kill a battery fast
-Google Maps
-ESPN Sports center
-All kinds of games
-You Tube
-your browser
-Certain Livewallpapers
Sorry mods if i placed this in the wrong section but I just hope google reads this and fixes its faults. I want everyone reading this to post there issues or dislikes so we can enjoy this UI more while providing the best experience to us and other earthlings out there.
1. standby - I noticed the battery life is pretty good when it comes to playing movies,music and little bit of gaming but the standby is just horrid i know are phones are powerful as umpc but there should be a better way to lower consumption on sleep mode.
2. market - not really liking the new layout it needs to be more organized and less oversized.
3. multitasking - it's good obviously between switching to apps right away but sometimes i am left with too much baggage. I suggest there should be a setting to switch this option on/off.
4. scrolling - pretty good but still a little bit of lag now and then. would like the bounce when you hit the edge of the page.
5. UI - needs to be little bit more animated and lively.
6. brightness - the option to lower the level to the lowest.
7. websites - still has some bugs and glitches.
8. sdxc - running out of room here needs support of the extra capaity of sd cards.
9. apps - more quality apps. it seems like they just throw the free ones in the market without fully testing it for bugs. i have to scroll through dozens of unknown users with opinions that are just randomly unbiased.
10. standby again! - please fix this google!!! if i am left stranded from my car broken down or if i am vacationing to another then i'm screwed. I had a winmo phone did me good lasted more than a week on standby.....
It is not Google who builds the UI, its the phone manufacturer... Motoblur,thouchwiz,Sense etc, not google-builds.
To much baggage?, Try downloading and installing an app killer from market.
What other category is there to add to market btw?
Scrolling, I would think this is directly from your phone and not cause of Google...
again, try app killer to free up some ram.
-i7- said:
It is not Google who builds the UI, its the phone manufacturer... Motoblur,thouchwiz,Sense etc, not google-builds.
To much baggage?, Try downloading and installing an app killer from market.
What other category is there to add to market btw?
Scrolling, I would think this is directly from your phone and not cause of Google...
again, try app killer to free up some ram.
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I'm not talking about category but how the market is viewed it's all oversized block columns I prefer it to be more smaller and with more information in each block. I know there are app killers but it's better if it's official built running it would be more stabled and furthermore i hope more people will list there dislikes or changes about android and maybe google and the phone manufacturers will see this and make some fixes to there next builds. i want this thread to be seen by google from future post from xda users dislikes and hoping to change the faults....
Battery usage is my biggest complaint.
Mcds said:
5. UI - needs to be little bit more animated and lively.
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What do you mean?
Live wallpapers arent animated and lively enough for you? Do you use widgets?
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What do you mean?
Live wallpapers arent animated and lively enough for you? Do you use widgets?
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usually when i compare the ebay iphone app to android it's less animated it's dull coming from someone in there thirties i can get to bored easily. don't get me wrong i'm using the 2g iphone it's smooth also laggy my 1ghz android is smooth but the phone doesn't animate i guess it depends on what apps you get also...
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gigem01 said:
Battery usage is my biggest complaint.
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This is the answer I am looking for from all of you, what you want to change! this deserves a thanks!
Android market has one of the worst layouts..(Both in Android as well as on Website) Despite having all the resources at disposal why they are still taking time to improve the layout?(Laziness??)
message apk should be improved
Given your initial post it sounds as though WP7 may be a better OS to suit your needs.
i dont quite understand #6
"6. brightness - the option to lower the level to the lowest."
my past 2 Android phones (G2 & currently my 4G Touch) have always been able to lower the brightness all the down.
comedy said:
i dont quite understand #6
"6. brightness - the option to lower the level to the lowest."
my past 2 Android phones (G2 & currently my 4G Touch) have always been able to lower the brightness all the down.
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Mcds is confusing hardware with Android. Basically he'd like the lowest brightness setting on his phone to be dimmer.
You know how the lowest brightness setting on one phone can actually be brighter than a different model, just as the highest setting can be brighter on one handset compared with a different model. It's down to the hardware, not Android.
all these things can be fixed with either a new ROM new kernel or just an app download... when it comes to android, if you know wt u doing then there is nothing that cant be fixed/tweeked to ur liking... that's the power of android my friend RECOGNIZEEEEEEEEEE
Doesn't matter what app, kernel, or rom you download. After androids attempts at emulating ios and wp7s fluid UIs they've proven, the UI just isn't going to get good. To me the UI is half of the reason I buy a phone with the other half being gaming and social integration (be it Facebook or texting) perhaps a small percentage of it is battery life but with my transition to wp7 a huge weight was lifted off of my shoulders. I realized I never wanted to dissect my phone just to increase the fps by 10, I did it because I wanted to make my mobile experience bearable. Now, I have everything I want out of the box.
Smartphones are app platforms, whatever flavour the OS is. Most of what people spend time doing on their phone, whether it be texting, gaming or emailing, is using apps. UI isn't a factor for me as i only see it for a very brief period until i launch the app i need.
If anything, it's the quality of the apps that should be compared between platforms, not the UI. Android Market could probably do with a bit more quality control, that's my own criticism really. Like for like apps on iOS are often more polished than their Android equivalent.
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Doesn't matter what app, kernel, or rom you download. After androids attempts at emulating ios and wp7s fluid UIs they've proven, the UI just isn't going to get good. To me the UI is half of the reason I buy a phone with the other half being gaming and social integration (be it Facebook or texting) perhaps a small percentage of it is battery life but with my transition to wp7 a huge weight was lifted off of my shoulders. I realized I never wanted to dissect my phone just to increase the fps by 10, I did it because I wanted to make my mobile experience bearable. Now, I have everything I want out of the box.
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Exactly, you've freely admitted that you found Android too complex, so of course the simplicity of such a basic OS as WP7 is going to appeal, lets face it, it's even less complex than iOS.
It's ideal for people who have never used a touch screen phone before, or even a mobile phone of any kind, especially if they have fat fingers, the sort of people who are not going to notice the lack of functionality but are easily impressed with visual effects.
xaccers, I still find it comical that you call me the troll but eh. I guess if that's your prerogative. I prefer my phone have decent social integration or as they put it, be "peoplecentric." as I use my phone primarily for *gasp* communication. The fact that it's also aesthetically pleasing is just a bonus, another that android does not have.
DirkGently, I agree to some extent, but I guess I feel the way I do because with WP7 the UI is uniform across the whole OS and most third party apps. I've come to appreciate the beauty in that. I do also agree that I see more quality in both the iOS and WP7 versions of apps that are on all platforms.
Let's not forget that you can't connect to ad-hoc wireless networks. I mean... c'mon...this is just lame.
Kinda not related, but i'ld like the source to be mirrored at some more reliable location xD
Getting to topic, i do like the custom overlays(tw, sense, etc..) but they take significant resources and are one of the causes behind slow updates
Wifi is the big problem for me
I have wifi issues with Archos 70 (Android 2.1 to 2.3, rooted), and Arcer Iconia (Honeycomb 3.2 rooted). Android seems does not like my working wifi and stay in obtaining ip most of the time.
And, I plan to listen some online radio (Domi, Douban for say), once the tablet goes to idle mode, wifi disconnected, make it useless. I tried to set wifi disconnect policy, tried wifi alive, wifi lock, wifi buddy and maybe most wifi related apps in the market, none work.
While iTouch works fine for above 2 scenarios.
Battery life and more quality apps. Seriously, has anyone else noticed that Android apps feel kinda rushed and low quality. Especially if that company/app is on iOS. I always felt that the iOS counterparts seem a lot better and that more time and effort is put into them.
Also, improvement on multitasking. I don't really like the little recent app window crap. Something along the lines of WebOS's multitasking screen would be a really nice addition. Also, notifications should be a little more organized. Apple did a good job with this on their notification dropdown ripoff..
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It is not Google who builds the UI, its the phone manufacturer... Motoblur,thouchwiz,Sense etc, not google-builds.
To much baggage?, Try downloading and installing an app killer from market.
What other category is there to add to market btw?
Scrolling, I would think this is directly from your phone and not cause of Google...
again, try app killer to free up some ram.
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By UI he probably means Android's base UI, Stock Android. You have to admit, it is pretty meh. Downloading a app killer/task manager is a bad idea. That bogs down Android more than background apps do.
Hello.
If this question is already answered I apologise. I search but haven't found what I want.
Does having many apps in running tab (Settings->Apps->Running) affect performance?
I have many services like Facebook , WhatsApp, and all S5 bloatware...
I asked in theory because i haven't seen any difference with these apps installed/uninstalled.
Also does the battery die quicker?
And the last: Does Facebook and whatsapp slow phone?
I was having another question (Does testing ( installing/ then unistalling) many apps from google play slow phone in time?) but i found the answer on xda
Thank you!
And sorry for my english...is not my native language
Of course it would affect the performance. The more service you run, the more ram they consume, the less ram you get. It doesnt make a significant change in the performance, but you can see the ram usage(you can download some ram stat apps).
Then, when more service running, they of course cunsume more energy and the battery dies quicker, but not so significant.
Hope this helps.
I've got a chance to get any of these for nothing basically in an upgrade.
Huawei P20 Lite
LG G6
Samsung Galaxy A5
I know most people wouldn't even look at these but I have different criteria from most smartphone users.
1. Best camera possible, especially in low light
2. Enough CPU power and speed to let me game without lag, use heavy-internet apps like Maps and Browsers without lag (my current phone freezes when searching an address and often just crashes.
3. Good battery longevity would be useful
4. LOTS of onboard memory - seeing as how I clearly am someone who needs to have a number of apps that causes my phone to constantly run out of space even when passing apps to the SD Card. Besides, Android's infuriating need to constantly reinstall apps to the phone when updating makes this a mess.
5. I'd like the phone to be rootable to run things like Xposed and do image backups.
Where I differ from most users, I think, is I do not ever use my phone for music or video and can't imagine anything more useless than using a forward facing camera to take pictures. I don't mean I only do video and music occasionally, I mean I have a media player and I would never watch anything more than a news video on a small screen. I'm only saying this because nowadays when you ask about phones you get video and audio specs.
Thanks for any help!
I got the LG. This can be deleted.
To preface, I have the S22 Ultra 256Gb (Snapdragon) 12Gb of RAM, running the latest firmware. This is not an Exynos only issue, or an 8Gb RAM only issue, it's an EVERYONE issue.
Opening the link below in a browser doesn't show any lag. You need the official Reddit app from the PlayStore to test this unfortunately but it's the perfect example to demonstrate the massive scrolling lag that occurs with some apps.
Large Twitter timelines and some Reddit posts still have very clear scrolling lag, others I am sure notice it elsewhere. If Samsung can resolve this particular issue, I believe the majority of scrolling lag issues people face will also be solved.
From what I can see, many apps use a different rendering method? It's the number of large images that possibly cause the scrolling lag. So, a better method for how the phone loads or renders images is needed to solve this problem with whatever these apps continue to use.
Open this thread below in the OFFICIAL Reddit app and scroll through the main thread at normal scrolling speed, then go back to the top and scroll faster, then test scrolling slowly (the comments under the main thread do not lag).
PLEASE report back if you notice the scrolling lag, and more importantly if someone doesn't notice it with their phone:
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Whats the Problem? No lag in browser so the reddit App is unoptomized...
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Whats the Problem? No lag in browser so the reddit App is unoptomized...
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I literally said that in the post. Do not test using browsers (because they clearly have different levels of optimizations to save power/data, etc that result in images not loading in their highest qualities while scrolling).
Also how is that not a problem if for a few years now (on multiple high-end Android devices) we've had extremely popular apps, not ones made by small time developers, use rendering methods that are both unoptimized on the APP side and clearly on Android side too (since these issues only began around the time of Android 10 and continued to get worse with time and future iterations).
If apps continue to use that subpar rendering methods or not optimize for scrolling fluidity, and these are apps that are amongst the most popular, then perhaps Samsung/ Other Android manufacturers / Google need to start optimizing on their end.
Because at the end of the day, the user experience here is being affected.
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I literally said that in the post. Do not test using browsers (because they clearly have different levels of optimizations to save power/data, etc that result in images not loading in their highest qualities while scrolling).
Also how is that not a problem if for a few years now (on multiple high-end Android devices) we've had extremely popular apps, not ones made by small time developers, use rendering methods that are both unoptimized on the APP side and clearly on Android side too (since these issues only began around the time of Android 10 and continued to get worse with time and future iterations).
If apps continue to use that subpar rendering methods or not optimize for scrolling fluidity, and these are apps that are amongst the most popular, then perhaps Samsung/ Other Android manufacturers / Google need to start optimizing on their end.
Because at the end of the day, the user experience here is being affected.
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Then use it in the Browser and voila good experience. But i can understand you mate... A big forum like reddit should have an optimized app after all this years... They arent new to the game and it should be optimized for Such an big cpu like the 8gen 1 that is in various Devices...
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Then use it in the Browser and voila good experience. But i can understand you mate... A big forum like reddit should have an optimized app after all this years... They arent new to the game and it should be optimized for Such an big cpu like the 8gen 1 that is in various Devices...
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Same applies for the Twitter app too sadly. In fact, it's worse, as 90% of Reddit threads don't have that many photos to lag. But Twitter depending on who one follows, a timeline could be filled with images and scroll stutter.
For reference, both these apps ran smoother on my Pixel 2 XL with zero lag issues by the way despite loading the same high-quality images during scroll.
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Same applies for the Twitter app too sadly. In fact, it's worse, as 90% of Reddit threads don't have that many photos to lag. But Twitter depending on who one follows, a timeline could be filled with images and scroll stutter.
For reference, both these apps ran smoother on my Pixel 2 XL with zero lag issues by the way despite loading the same high-quality images during scroll.
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Okay then this seems like an Android 12/ snapdragon 8gen1 or s22 Problem thats strange...
scrolling like i have 10hz mode on s22u(256 exy).
I can't see any lag with the Reddit App on my Phone (S22U 256GB Exynos)
profi_fahrer said:
I can't see any lag with the Reddit App on my Phone (S22U 256GB Exynos)
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Lucky one
profi_fahrer said:
I can't see any lag with the Reddit App on my Phone (S22U 256GB Exynos)
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Images not loading for you, look at the example below, which is how it should look and why the lag is caused. Same applies with Twitter scrolling and when lots of high-res images are in the timeline. It's very smooth when it's mostly text, or low-res images. Then it lags and stutters when high-res images start coming up.
Samsung/Google/Android have to start optimizing for when high-resolution image rendering or how it's done.
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Lucky one
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Not luck, your one is how it should look, with the high-resolution images. Which is what causes severe scrolling lag.
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What I want to know more importantly is if there is ANYONE who is loading the official app with the images like the above and not having any lag/stutter.
Maybe people with custom ROMS or kernels can please test and let us know if it's the same for them?
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Images not loading for you, look at the example below, which is how it should look and why the lag is caused. Same applies with Twitter scrolling and when lots of high-res images are in the timeline. It's very smooth when it's mostly text, or low-res images. Then it lags and stutters when high-res images start coming up.
Samsung/Google/Android have to start optimizing for when high-resolution image rendering or how it's done.
Not luck, your one is how it should look, with the high-resolution images. Which is what causes severe scrolling lag.
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I think its tíme to say good bye to Samsung family.
vlubosh said:
I think its tíme to say good bye to Samsung family.
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I don't think this is a Samsung exclusive issue. I believe it began with Android 10 and has been getting worse since, not sure why.
I can test tomorrow with my brother's Oppo Find X2 Pro.
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Yeah, you're right. I really dont know, why they wouldn't load. Sometimes I can see the preview link, but most of the time, there isn't anything (just the raw text).
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I don't think this is a Samsung exclusive issue. I believe it began with Android 10 and has been getting worse since, not sure why.
I can test tomorrow with my brother's Oppo Find X2 Pro.
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Have tested few phones with a12( latest poco f3 and its smooth as f...)
Samsung cant optimize exy chips
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Have tested few phones with a12( latest poco f3 and its smooth as f...)
Samsung cant optimize exy chips
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If that's true. Samsung really has to fix this horrible experience in apps.
By the way, as I've already stated. This has nothing to do with Exy vs Snapdragon.
I have a Snapdragon model with 256Gb storage and 12Gb ram and it's still happening.
I have a S22u SD 12/256 model, have never had any scrolling/studdering issues but keep seeing posts about it. I'm curious as to what setting your graphics driver is under Developer Options in setting? Looks like you can change that option for individual applications.
Apologies in advance if this has been already thrashed out...
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I have a S22u SD 12/256 model, have never had any scrolling/studdering issues but keep seeing posts about it. I'm curious as to what setting your graphics driver is under Developer Options in setting? Looks like you can change that option for individual applications.
Apologies in advance if this has been already thrashed out...
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I am very curious by this, so please do come back and let us know. No offence taken by the way.
I believe you can login to Reddit as anonymous or use it without creating an account at all. Can you please download it from the PlayStore, then come and open the reddit thread in original post at the top and test it scrolling? Check the video by @vlubosh above.
Developer settings on/off do not impact it, animation on/off does not impact it, graphics driver settings under developer setting on/off do not change it. Forcing GPU rendering under developer settings does not impact it. Doing tweaks to the build.prop do not impact it either.
The stutter lag has been there the whole time for me, with every firmware update too.
You could get lucky and in the apps you use you'll never notice it. But given for example Twitter and Reddit are my primary uses with the phone outside my work, then my entire experience, outside of amazing camera, has been horrible with this phone.
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I am very curious by this, so please do come back and let us know. No offence taken by the way.
I believe you can login to Reddit as anonymous or use it without creating an account at all. Can you please download it from the PlayStore, then come and open the reddit thread in original post at the top and test it scrolling? Check the video by @vlubosh above.
Developer settings on/off do not impact it, animation on/off does not impact it, graphics driver settings under developer setting on/off do not change it. Forcing GPU rendering under developer settings does not impact it. Doing tweaks to the build.prop do not impact it either.
The stutter lag has been there the whole time for me, with every firmware update too.
You could get lucky and in the apps you use you'll never notice it. But given for example Twitter and Reddit are my primary uses with the phone outside my work, then my entire experience, outside of amazing camera, has been horrible with this phone.
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I first clicked on your link in the original post above which displayed the reddit web pages and everything scrolled smoothly. Tried it with 120 and then 60 hz refresh and no lag.
I then installed the reddit app and clicked on your link above and was able to get it displayed in the app. Didn't matter if I had 120 or 60hz screen refresh or how I had the setting for the graphics driver set, never had any lag.
Let me know if you have any questions.
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I first clicked on your link in the original post above which displayed the reddit web pages and everything scrolled smoothly. Tried it with 120 and then 60 hz refresh and no lag.
I then installed the reddit app and clicked on your link above and was able to get it displayed in the app. Didn't matter if I had 120 or 60hz screen refresh or how I had the setting for the graphics driver set, never had any lag.
Let me know if you have any questions.
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Were the images loaded for you in the app? Like the video by @vlubosh or does it look like the video posted by @profi_fahrer
What firmware are you currently running?
It loads the images like @vlubosh with the images. Se attachment for version info.