Question Scrolling Lag Test --> Found the perfect example, need testers: - Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra

To preface, I have the S22 Ultra 256Gb (Snapdragon) 12Gb of RAM, running the latest firmware. This is not an Exynos only issue, or an 8Gb RAM only issue, it's an EVERYONE issue.
Opening the link below in a browser doesn't show any lag. You need the official Reddit app from the PlayStore to test this unfortunately but it's the perfect example to demonstrate the massive scrolling lag that occurs with some apps.
Large Twitter timelines and some Reddit posts still have very clear scrolling lag, others I am sure notice it elsewhere. If Samsung can resolve this particular issue, I believe the majority of scrolling lag issues people face will also be solved.
From what I can see, many apps use a different rendering method? It's the number of large images that possibly cause the scrolling lag. So, a better method for how the phone loads or renders images is needed to solve this problem with whatever these apps continue to use.
Open this thread below in the OFFICIAL Reddit app and scroll through the main thread at normal scrolling speed, then go back to the top and scroll faster, then test scrolling slowly (the comments under the main thread do not lag).
PLEASE report back if you notice the scrolling lag, and more importantly if someone doesn't notice it with their phone:
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Whats the Problem? No lag in browser so the reddit App is unoptomized...

Goku1992 said:
Whats the Problem? No lag in browser so the reddit App is unoptomized...
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I literally said that in the post. Do not test using browsers (because they clearly have different levels of optimizations to save power/data, etc that result in images not loading in their highest qualities while scrolling).
Also how is that not a problem if for a few years now (on multiple high-end Android devices) we've had extremely popular apps, not ones made by small time developers, use rendering methods that are both unoptimized on the APP side and clearly on Android side too (since these issues only began around the time of Android 10 and continued to get worse with time and future iterations).
If apps continue to use that subpar rendering methods or not optimize for scrolling fluidity, and these are apps that are amongst the most popular, then perhaps Samsung/ Other Android manufacturers / Google need to start optimizing on their end.
Because at the end of the day, the user experience here is being affected.

Blackfyre said:
I literally said that in the post. Do not test using browsers (because they clearly have different levels of optimizations to save power/data, etc that result in images not loading in their highest qualities while scrolling).
Also how is that not a problem if for a few years now (on multiple high-end Android devices) we've had extremely popular apps, not ones made by small time developers, use rendering methods that are both unoptimized on the APP side and clearly on Android side too (since these issues only began around the time of Android 10 and continued to get worse with time and future iterations).
If apps continue to use that subpar rendering methods or not optimize for scrolling fluidity, and these are apps that are amongst the most popular, then perhaps Samsung/ Other Android manufacturers / Google need to start optimizing on their end.
Because at the end of the day, the user experience here is being affected.
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Then use it in the Browser and voila good experience. But i can understand you mate... A big forum like reddit should have an optimized app after all this years... They arent new to the game and it should be optimized for Such an big cpu like the 8gen 1 that is in various Devices...

Goku1992 said:
Then use it in the Browser and voila good experience. But i can understand you mate... A big forum like reddit should have an optimized app after all this years... They arent new to the game and it should be optimized for Such an big cpu like the 8gen 1 that is in various Devices...
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Same applies for the Twitter app too sadly. In fact, it's worse, as 90% of Reddit threads don't have that many photos to lag. But Twitter depending on who one follows, a timeline could be filled with images and scroll stutter.
For reference, both these apps ran smoother on my Pixel 2 XL with zero lag issues by the way despite loading the same high-quality images during scroll.

Blackfyre said:
Same applies for the Twitter app too sadly. In fact, it's worse, as 90% of Reddit threads don't have that many photos to lag. But Twitter depending on who one follows, a timeline could be filled with images and scroll stutter.
For reference, both these apps ran smoother on my Pixel 2 XL with zero lag issues by the way despite loading the same high-quality images during scroll.
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Okay then this seems like an Android 12/ snapdragon 8gen1 or s22 Problem thats strange...

scrolling like i have 10hz mode on s22u(256 exy).

I can't see any lag with the Reddit App on my Phone (S22U 256GB Exynos)

profi_fahrer said:
I can't see any lag with the Reddit App on my Phone (S22U 256GB Exynos)
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Lucky one

profi_fahrer said:
I can't see any lag with the Reddit App on my Phone (S22U 256GB Exynos)
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Images not loading for you, look at the example below, which is how it should look and why the lag is caused. Same applies with Twitter scrolling and when lots of high-res images are in the timeline. It's very smooth when it's mostly text, or low-res images. Then it lags and stutters when high-res images start coming up.
Samsung/Google/Android have to start optimizing for when high-resolution image rendering or how it's done.
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Lucky one
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Not luck, your one is how it should look, with the high-resolution images. Which is what causes severe scrolling lag.
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What I want to know more importantly is if there is ANYONE who is loading the official app with the images like the above and not having any lag/stutter.
Maybe people with custom ROMS or kernels can please test and let us know if it's the same for them?

Blackfyre said:
Images not loading for you, look at the example below, which is how it should look and why the lag is caused. Same applies with Twitter scrolling and when lots of high-res images are in the timeline. It's very smooth when it's mostly text, or low-res images. Then it lags and stutters when high-res images start coming up.
Samsung/Google/Android have to start optimizing for when high-resolution image rendering or how it's done.
Not luck, your one is how it should look, with the high-resolution images. Which is what causes severe scrolling lag.
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I think its tíme to say good bye to Samsung family.

vlubosh said:
I think its tíme to say good bye to Samsung family.
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I don't think this is a Samsung exclusive issue. I believe it began with Android 10 and has been getting worse since, not sure why.
I can test tomorrow with my brother's Oppo Find X2 Pro.

Blackfyre said:
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Yeah, you're right. I really dont know, why they wouldn't load. Sometimes I can see the preview link, but most of the time, there isn't anything (just the raw text).

Blackfyre said:
I don't think this is a Samsung exclusive issue. I believe it began with Android 10 and has been getting worse since, not sure why.
I can test tomorrow with my brother's Oppo Find X2 Pro.
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Have tested few phones with a12( latest poco f3 and its smooth as f...)
Samsung cant optimize exy chips

vlubosh said:
Have tested few phones with a12( latest poco f3 and its smooth as f...)
Samsung cant optimize exy chips
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If that's true. Samsung really has to fix this horrible experience in apps.
By the way, as I've already stated. This has nothing to do with Exy vs Snapdragon.
I have a Snapdragon model with 256Gb storage and 12Gb ram and it's still happening.

I have a S22u SD 12/256 model, have never had any scrolling/studdering issues but keep seeing posts about it. I'm curious as to what setting your graphics driver is under Developer Options in setting? Looks like you can change that option for individual applications.
Apologies in advance if this has been already thrashed out...

Rubby1025 said:
I have a S22u SD 12/256 model, have never had any scrolling/studdering issues but keep seeing posts about it. I'm curious as to what setting your graphics driver is under Developer Options in setting? Looks like you can change that option for individual applications.
Apologies in advance if this has been already thrashed out...
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I am very curious by this, so please do come back and let us know. No offence taken by the way.
I believe you can login to Reddit as anonymous or use it without creating an account at all. Can you please download it from the PlayStore, then come and open the reddit thread in original post at the top and test it scrolling? Check the video by @vlubosh above.
Developer settings on/off do not impact it, animation on/off does not impact it, graphics driver settings under developer setting on/off do not change it. Forcing GPU rendering under developer settings does not impact it. Doing tweaks to the build.prop do not impact it either.
The stutter lag has been there the whole time for me, with every firmware update too.
You could get lucky and in the apps you use you'll never notice it. But given for example Twitter and Reddit are my primary uses with the phone outside my work, then my entire experience, outside of amazing camera, has been horrible with this phone.

Blackfyre said:
I am very curious by this, so please do come back and let us know. No offence taken by the way.
I believe you can login to Reddit as anonymous or use it without creating an account at all. Can you please download it from the PlayStore, then come and open the reddit thread in original post at the top and test it scrolling? Check the video by @vlubosh above.
Developer settings on/off do not impact it, animation on/off does not impact it, graphics driver settings under developer setting on/off do not change it. Forcing GPU rendering under developer settings does not impact it. Doing tweaks to the build.prop do not impact it either.
The stutter lag has been there the whole time for me, with every firmware update too.
You could get lucky and in the apps you use you'll never notice it. But given for example Twitter and Reddit are my primary uses with the phone outside my work, then my entire experience, outside of amazing camera, has been horrible with this phone.
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I first clicked on your link in the original post above which displayed the reddit web pages and everything scrolled smoothly. Tried it with 120 and then 60 hz refresh and no lag.
I then installed the reddit app and clicked on your link above and was able to get it displayed in the app. Didn't matter if I had 120 or 60hz screen refresh or how I had the setting for the graphics driver set, never had any lag.
Let me know if you have any questions.

Rubby1025 said:
I first clicked on your link in the original post above which displayed the reddit web pages and everything scrolled smoothly. Tried it with 120 and then 60 hz refresh and no lag.
I then installed the reddit app and clicked on your link above and was able to get it displayed in the app. Didn't matter if I had 120 or 60hz screen refresh or how I had the setting for the graphics driver set, never had any lag.
Let me know if you have any questions.
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Were the images loaded for you in the app? Like the video by @vlubosh or does it look like the video posted by @profi_fahrer
What firmware are you currently running?

It loads the images like @vlubosh with the images. Se attachment for version info.

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Android "List what you dislike or hope to see changed"

Sorry mods if i placed this in the wrong section but I just hope google reads this and fixes its faults. I want everyone reading this to post there issues or dislikes so we can enjoy this UI more while providing the best experience to us and other earthlings out there.
1. standby - I noticed the battery life is pretty good when it comes to playing movies,music and little bit of gaming but the standby is just horrid i know are phones are powerful as umpc but there should be a better way to lower consumption on sleep mode.
2. market - not really liking the new layout it needs to be more organized and less oversized.
3. multitasking - it's good obviously between switching to apps right away but sometimes i am left with too much baggage. I suggest there should be a setting to switch this option on/off.
4. scrolling - pretty good but still a little bit of lag now and then. would like the bounce when you hit the edge of the page.
5. UI - needs to be little bit more animated and lively.
6. brightness - the option to lower the level to the lowest.
7. websites - still has some bugs and glitches.
8. sdxc - running out of room here needs support of the extra capaity of sd cards.
9. apps - more quality apps. it seems like they just throw the free ones in the market without fully testing it for bugs. i have to scroll through dozens of unknown users with opinions that are just randomly unbiased.
10. standby again! - please fix this google!!! if i am left stranded from my car broken down or if i am vacationing to another then i'm screwed. I had a winmo phone did me good lasted more than a week on standby.....
It is not Google who builds the UI, its the phone manufacturer... Motoblur,thouchwiz,Sense etc, not google-builds.
To much baggage?, Try downloading and installing an app killer from market.
What other category is there to add to market btw?
Scrolling, I would think this is directly from your phone and not cause of Google...
again, try app killer to free up some ram.
-i7- said:
It is not Google who builds the UI, its the phone manufacturer... Motoblur,thouchwiz,Sense etc, not google-builds.
To much baggage?, Try downloading and installing an app killer from market.
What other category is there to add to market btw?
Scrolling, I would think this is directly from your phone and not cause of Google...
again, try app killer to free up some ram.
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I'm not talking about category but how the market is viewed it's all oversized block columns I prefer it to be more smaller and with more information in each block. I know there are app killers but it's better if it's official built running it would be more stabled and furthermore i hope more people will list there dislikes or changes about android and maybe google and the phone manufacturers will see this and make some fixes to there next builds. i want this thread to be seen by google from future post from xda users dislikes and hoping to change the faults....
Battery usage is my biggest complaint.
Mcds said:
5. UI - needs to be little bit more animated and lively.
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What do you mean?
Live wallpapers arent animated and lively enough for you? Do you use widgets?
hungry81 said:
What do you mean?
Live wallpapers arent animated and lively enough for you? Do you use widgets?
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usually when i compare the ebay iphone app to android it's less animated it's dull coming from someone in there thirties i can get to bored easily. don't get me wrong i'm using the 2g iphone it's smooth also laggy my 1ghz android is smooth but the phone doesn't animate i guess it depends on what apps you get also...
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gigem01 said:
Battery usage is my biggest complaint.
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This is the answer I am looking for from all of you, what you want to change! this deserves a thanks!
Android market has one of the worst layouts..(Both in Android as well as on Website) Despite having all the resources at disposal why they are still taking time to improve the layout?(Laziness??)
message apk should be improved
Given your initial post it sounds as though WP7 may be a better OS to suit your needs.
i dont quite understand #6
"6. brightness - the option to lower the level to the lowest."
my past 2 Android phones (G2 & currently my 4G Touch) have always been able to lower the brightness all the down.
comedy said:
i dont quite understand #6
"6. brightness - the option to lower the level to the lowest."
my past 2 Android phones (G2 & currently my 4G Touch) have always been able to lower the brightness all the down.
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Mcds is confusing hardware with Android. Basically he'd like the lowest brightness setting on his phone to be dimmer.
You know how the lowest brightness setting on one phone can actually be brighter than a different model, just as the highest setting can be brighter on one handset compared with a different model. It's down to the hardware, not Android.
all these things can be fixed with either a new ROM new kernel or just an app download... when it comes to android, if you know wt u doing then there is nothing that cant be fixed/tweeked to ur liking... that's the power of android my friend RECOGNIZEEEEEEEEEE
Doesn't matter what app, kernel, or rom you download. After androids attempts at emulating ios and wp7s fluid UIs they've proven, the UI just isn't going to get good. To me the UI is half of the reason I buy a phone with the other half being gaming and social integration (be it Facebook or texting) perhaps a small percentage of it is battery life but with my transition to wp7 a huge weight was lifted off of my shoulders. I realized I never wanted to dissect my phone just to increase the fps by 10, I did it because I wanted to make my mobile experience bearable. Now, I have everything I want out of the box.
Smartphones are app platforms, whatever flavour the OS is. Most of what people spend time doing on their phone, whether it be texting, gaming or emailing, is using apps. UI isn't a factor for me as i only see it for a very brief period until i launch the app i need.
If anything, it's the quality of the apps that should be compared between platforms, not the UI. Android Market could probably do with a bit more quality control, that's my own criticism really. Like for like apps on iOS are often more polished than their Android equivalent.
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Doesn't matter what app, kernel, or rom you download. After androids attempts at emulating ios and wp7s fluid UIs they've proven, the UI just isn't going to get good. To me the UI is half of the reason I buy a phone with the other half being gaming and social integration (be it Facebook or texting) perhaps a small percentage of it is battery life but with my transition to wp7 a huge weight was lifted off of my shoulders. I realized I never wanted to dissect my phone just to increase the fps by 10, I did it because I wanted to make my mobile experience bearable. Now, I have everything I want out of the box.
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Exactly, you've freely admitted that you found Android too complex, so of course the simplicity of such a basic OS as WP7 is going to appeal, lets face it, it's even less complex than iOS.
It's ideal for people who have never used a touch screen phone before, or even a mobile phone of any kind, especially if they have fat fingers, the sort of people who are not going to notice the lack of functionality but are easily impressed with visual effects.
xaccers, I still find it comical that you call me the troll but eh. I guess if that's your prerogative. I prefer my phone have decent social integration or as they put it, be "peoplecentric." as I use my phone primarily for *gasp* communication. The fact that it's also aesthetically pleasing is just a bonus, another that android does not have.
DirkGently, I agree to some extent, but I guess I feel the way I do because with WP7 the UI is uniform across the whole OS and most third party apps. I've come to appreciate the beauty in that. I do also agree that I see more quality in both the iOS and WP7 versions of apps that are on all platforms.
Let's not forget that you can't connect to ad-hoc wireless networks. I mean... c'mon...this is just lame.
Kinda not related, but i'ld like the source to be mirrored at some more reliable location xD
Getting to topic, i do like the custom overlays(tw, sense, etc..) but they take significant resources and are one of the causes behind slow updates
Wifi is the big problem for me
I have wifi issues with Archos 70 (Android 2.1 to 2.3, rooted), and Arcer Iconia (Honeycomb 3.2 rooted). Android seems does not like my working wifi and stay in obtaining ip most of the time.
And, I plan to listen some online radio (Domi, Douban for say), once the tablet goes to idle mode, wifi disconnected, make it useless. I tried to set wifi disconnect policy, tried wifi alive, wifi lock, wifi buddy and maybe most wifi related apps in the market, none work.
While iTouch works fine for above 2 scenarios.
Battery life and more quality apps. Seriously, has anyone else noticed that Android apps feel kinda rushed and low quality. Especially if that company/app is on iOS. I always felt that the iOS counterparts seem a lot better and that more time and effort is put into them.
Also, improvement on multitasking. I don't really like the little recent app window crap. Something along the lines of WebOS's multitasking screen would be a really nice addition. Also, notifications should be a little more organized. Apple did a good job with this on their notification dropdown ripoff..
-i7- said:
It is not Google who builds the UI, its the phone manufacturer... Motoblur,thouchwiz,Sense etc, not google-builds.
To much baggage?, Try downloading and installing an app killer from market.
What other category is there to add to market btw?
Scrolling, I would think this is directly from your phone and not cause of Google...
again, try app killer to free up some ram.
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By UI he probably means Android's base UI, Stock Android. You have to admit, it is pretty meh. Downloading a app killer/task manager is a bad idea. That bogs down Android more than background apps do.

I think I have found a fix for the multitasking! (Video inside)

Hello guys. Sorry if I come off as a noob here but I have been browsing this forum for the past couple of weeks. I have been specifically looking for a fix for the htc multitasking issues. But even with the suggestions given by users, I still could not find a fix that solved the multitasking issue. However, after much tweaking and playing with minfreemanager, sense, and task manager, I think I have found a fix (or a least a temporary fix) for the multitasking issue on the HOX. Here's a quick video I made to demonstrate this.
(dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=FeOZtvlK08c&feature=g-upl
As you can see in the video, I am able to scroll through multiple apps without any of them closing/restarting as they normally would have on the phone with stock settings. Although not perfect, the multitasking on the HOX has become much better, and almost perfect (at least for how I believe most users would be multitasking). I can make a phone call, go back to my web browser without the browser refreshing. However, I will warn you now, with this method, the phone will freeze up/slow down occasionally (however, I have found this to only happen when using apps that utilize a lot of memory or when browsing the youtube desktop website).
1) First you'll need to download minfreemanager (many of you reading this probably already have this installed). You can get this app in the play store. However, you'll need to have your phone rooted.
2) Download advanced task manager, find the apps (such as games, browsers, etc.) that you use consistently and put them in the ignore list. Then put autokiller on and regular kill on and set the regular kill frequency to 1 minute.
3) Go to minfreemanager and set all values to 0.
4) Reboot your phone.
5) Go back to minfreemanager and reset the values to 0 and apply those settings once again.
6) Have fun with significantly improved multitasking!
Like I said, the multitasking is not perfect, however, for most users, this improved multitasking will suit you well enough to not get you frustrated. Again, if you do not want to have to deal with occasional lag/freezing, then do not use this method. However, if you want improved multitasking, this method works.
But keep in mind that I am a noob still so if there anything that is not good with my settings, please let me know. Im not a tech genius and am only trying to improve everyone's user experience with this phone.
Lilshaun said:
Hello guys. Sorry if I come off as a noob here but I have been browsing this forum for the past couple of weeks. I have been specifically looking for a fix for the htc multitasking issues. But even with the suggestions given by users, I still could not find a fix that solved the multitasking issue. However, after much tweaking and playing with minfreemanager, sense, and task manager, I think I have found a fix (or a least a temporary fix) for the multitasking issue on the HOX. Here's a quick video I made to demonstrate this.
(dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=FeOZtvlK08c&feature=g-upl
As you can see in the video, I am able to scroll through multiple apps without any of them closing/restarting as they normally would have on the phone with stock settings. Although not perfect, the multitasking on the HOX has become much better, and almost perfect (at least for how I believe most users would be multitasking). I can make a phone call, go back to my web browser without the browser refreshing. However, I will warn you now, with this method, the phone will freeze up/slow down occasionally (however, I have found this to only happen when using apps that utilize a lot of memory or when browsing the youtube desktop website).
1) First you'll need to download minfreemanager (many of you reading this probably already have this installed). You can get this app in the play store. However, you'll need to have your phone rooted.
2) Download advanced task manager, find the apps (such as games, browsers, etc.) that you use consistently and put them in the ignore list. Then put autokiller on and regular kill on and set the regular kill frequency to 1 minute.
3) Go to minfreemanager and set all values to 0.
4) Reboot your phone.
5) Go back to minfreemanager and reset the values to 0 and apply those settings once again.
6) Have fun with significantly improved multitasking!
Like I said, the multitasking is not perfect, however, for most users, this improved multitasking will suit you well enough to not get you frustrated. Again, if you do not want to have to deal with occasional lag/freezing, then do not use this method. However, if you want improved multitasking, this method works.
But keep in mind that I am a noob still so if there anything that is not good with my settings, please let me know. Im not a tech genius and am only trying to improve everyone's user experience with this phone.
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Out of curiosity, are you running 1.82? I've had lock-up issues using minfreemanager on 1.73, but apparently they it performs better on 1.82, so I wasn't sure if that might be the cause of your freeze-up/slowdowns.
Silellak said:
Out of curiosity, are you running 1.82? I've had lock-up issues using minfreemanager on 1.73, but apparently they it performs better on 1.82, so I wasn't sure if that might be the cause of your freeze-up/slowdowns.
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Yeah I'm running the 1.73 firmware.
check your available ram now and tell us what it is please
equlizer said:
check your available ram now and tell us what it is please
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175 M. When not using the browser around 220.
You're definitely on to something, way better than anything I have tried so far... I did have a lock up a minute ago though, could be unrelated though... More testing to come.
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I've seen other reports that just being on 1.82 and using the "Minimal" or "Default" settings in Memfreemanager is enough to significantly improve the multitasking, so this might be a bit of overkill. Still, your hard work is appreciated
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You're definitely on to something, way better than anything I have tried so far... I did have a lock up a minute ago though, could be unrelated though... More testing to come.
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+1 Did as you said except for reboot and so far all Is well. Have to see how this effects battery but the multitasking is getting better.
multitasking works much better...but the phone became so laggy when i went back to home screen...takes 1 minute to pull down the notification curtain... I have reversed it now.
Thanks for the good work nevertheless!
men onsuserv
fobfusion said:
multitasking works much better...but the phone became so laggy when i went back to home screen...takes 1 minute to pull down the notification curtain... I have reversed it now.
Thanks for the good work nevertheless!
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What apps were you running when the slow down occured?
What apps did y'all add to the ignore list? Like all Widgets and stuff?
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What apps did y'all add to the ignore list? Like all Widgets and stuff?
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I put games, my web browser, and a couple other apps I don't want closed in the background while using on my ignore list. Anyone else having success worn this method.
I used the default setting on min free, it definitely seems to have improved the kill off time. My Chrome now stays open significantly longer than it used to, although it still dies faster than it did on my Atrix. A few slowdowns on 1.7, but no hard crashes yet.
Im not sure if it was due to this, but after applying this my phone froze at the lock screen and had to reboot.
Suggestion for anyone facing constant slow downs or lock ups, try using the mild setting for minfreemanager and see if that makes a difference. Currently testing with those settings.
Just use Rom Toolbox and use a preset in memory management. It requires root and it basically fixes the refreshing problem.. you can then tweak it the way you want
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fielddb said:
Just use Rom Toolbox and use a preset in memory management. It requires root and it basically fixes the refreshing problem.. you can then tweak it the way you want
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
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Wouldn't this do the same function as using minfreemanager.
This is a million times better than what I was having to deal with
vioalas said:
This is a million times better than what I was having to deal with
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Has this method helped you?
One more quick aid. If you're still dealing with constant slow downs or lag, download cpu tuner from google play. It's free. Use the performance setting and the phone will become much quicker.

Netflix mystery

First of all. Not trolling.
My netflix app was suffering from what it seems like most infinity users were suffering from- painfully slow scrolling. Not even setting force hardware gpu setting did not solve the problem. But today I fired up the netflix and the problem has gone away! Smooth scrolling with almost no lag. I know there is an netfix update, but I have not updated. The problem of lagging when typing to search still exists though. I am happy but quite puzzled over how it "just" fuxed itself. Anyone here with more brain power care to explain?
I am running stock 26 build.
As chief Dan George said "sometimes the magic works and sometimes it does not"
My experience, I followed the "force 2D GPU" on to solve my Netflix issue, but it didn't work (still the same, impossible to scroll etc..), then I did a reboot and still no luck. The next day it works beautifully. So the only thing I may think is something with force 2d hardware did not really kick in until later or a glitch issue with force 2d on. I then turn off the force 2d and Netflix back to non function again, then I re enable 2D and it stills not working, then did a reboot and this time it works right away. So my theory is enabling "force 2D" will resolved Netflix issue but it may not kick in right away.
seolyang said:
First of all. Not trolling.
My netflix app was suffering from what it seems like most infinity users were suffering from- painfully slow scrolling. Not even setting force hardware gpu setting did not solve the problem. But today I fired up the netflix and the problem has gone away! Smooth scrolling with almost no lag. I know there is an netfix update, but I have not updated. The problem of lagging when typing to search still exists though. I am happy but quite puzzled over how it "just" fuxed itself. Anyone here with more brain power care to explain?
I am running stock 26 build.
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Netfilx had a update on my device on the 6th. After the update it made the app. work much like it did for me when I used the Prime."Force 2D GPU" is the required on my device anymore. Once the page is fully loaded, it more around fine.
seolyang said:
First of all. Not trolling.
My netflix app was suffering from what it seems like most infinity users were suffering from- painfully slow scrolling. Not even setting force hardware gpu setting did not solve the problem. But today I fired up the netflix and the problem has gone away! Smooth scrolling with almost no lag. I know there is an netfix update, but I have not updated. The problem of lagging when typing to search still exists though. I am happy but quite puzzled over how it "just" fuxed itself. Anyone here with more brain power care to explain?
I am running stock 26 build.
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Yea I noticed the same thing. After the update on the 6th it was still lagging but today, nothing. its perfect.
user311 said:
After the update on the 6th
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Anyone have a copy of the .apk file with the new NetFlix? I have NetFlix via a DNS Proxy, but don't get automatic updates to the application, due to being in Europe.
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Anyone have a copy of the .apk file with the new NetFlix? I have NetFlix via a DNS Proxy, but don't get automatic updates to the application, due to being in Europe.
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Here you go: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B-_1cBMNtSiqMzhqa3REcjNXa00
Thanks Seolyang for pointing this out. Netflix works great now. I went and turned off 'force 2d hw rendering' and it still performs the same. bout damn time!
Yes, my Netflix is working great now. Funny how people were returning their devices over a little software issue like that.
+1. I've turned off Force GPU and the newer version works basically like it did with force GPU. Not perfect, but infinitely more usable. I considered the UI non-functional without force GPU on the prior release. Really glad to see this fixed on the TF700. Netflix is an important app.
Mine is still super laggy even with the latest update
I think all of Netflix are running slow.
I tried to demonstrate the app to a colleague and the app totally undersold the Tranformer Infinity.
I don't know what to say about this.
I never experienced this problem with the Transformer Prime.
I tried searching for something on the app tonight and a bunch of search items showed up but it was impossible to select any of them. By touch or my trackpad. Most annoying bug ever.
Netflix issues of lag has already been fixed. By app update and latest .30 update. Its smooth and lag free now... at least on my end
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jjdevega said:
Netflix issues of lag has already been fixed. By app update and latest .30 update. Its smooth and lag free now... at least on my end
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Nice... Improved alot better but I notice a slight lag when you were browsing netflix a few times. Only thing I wished you should have added in the video was scrolling a tv show with seasons and episodes to see if it was smooth also in netflix.
Nice to see they fixed it without needing to use the 2D forced.
The TV shows series interface stinks. Just do a big list that scrolls. I'm luke warm on the choosing the season thing.
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Nice... Improved alot better but I notice a slight lag when you were browsing netflix a few times. Only thing I wished you should have added in the video was scrolling a tv show with seasons and episodes to see if it was smooth also in netflix.
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Here is another video of navigating TV SERIES. Initially there was a brief pause but after it loaded more it was smoother
Ok I completely forgot to do the tv show season/episodes scrolling. I'll do another take. I got nothing else to do atm.
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To me, that still lags like crazy. Here is my experience with netflix. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw6J_ZC3MD0 Impossible to search for a specific movie/show. Note, the reason the movie starts on the infinity is because I accidentally hit it on the main page outside of the search box. I would say that someone should do a side by side comparison with other tablets to show how bad it lags and doesn't work.
Sorry, I don't know how to insert the video like you have in your posts, lol.
Here is why it "all of a sudden was better" . They fixed things on their end without any update.
adamhlj said:
To me, that still lags like crazy. Here is my experience with netflix. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw6J_ZC3MD0 Impossible to search for a specific movie/show. Note, the reason the movie starts on the infinity is because I accidentally hit it on the main page outside of the search box. I would say that someone should do a side by side comparison with other tablets to show how bad it lags and doesn't work.
Sorry, I don't know how to insert the video like you have in your posts, lol.
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There must be something going on with your tablet? What are you running? Could be something modified or a 3rd party app that could be causeing this. Its running very smooth as you can see from my video. And Netflix has fixed the lag issues and unresponsiveness. Maybe clear data on Netflix, uninstall reinstall.
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i have the search not working problems as well. i does not work on on my acer 500 either. I've read that because app uses html5 netflix can reprogram some things without an actual update from play store.
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Super Touch App- Reduce Lag and make you touch screen smooth.

I did not make this app, I'm just helping a China Developer to post on XDA.
Super smooth on Android touch screen, avoid content not-follow-up problems.
Review :http://www.phonearena.com/news/Spot...d-up-your-sluggish-Android-smartphone_id75851
AndroidCommunity: Super Touch optimizes touch function, improves battery consumption. http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIw1fjbuCg
Facebook page : https://m.facebook.com/supertouchapp/
1. Magnificent screen sliding respond, easy sliding on screen and no longer delay.
2. Incredibly smooth on zooming web pages or images as well as any operations needing to zoom.
3. Sliding to all directions is unbelievably quick and smooth.
4. Unbelievably quick and smooth lists rolling.
5. Much faster launching and loading Apps.
6. Speedy and accurate typing experience.
7. Much rapid on playing all sorts of games.
8. The first power-saving optimization app that does not affecting phones’ performance.
Super Touch allows you to experience unprecedented smooth smart phones.
Main functions:
One of this App’s main functions is to allow Android devices sliding much quicker and smoother, which will solve the problem of slow drag.
Sliding, dragging and zooming are far smoother; content follows up your fingertip; switching columns is also a lot quicker.
Lists rolling is extraordinarily speedier and smoother, typing is incredibly easier.
There is also a very practical power-saving optimization function, which doesn’t sacrifice the performance of the phone.
Important Instruction:
720P resolution is recommended a level of 600-1314
1080P resolution is recommended a level of 1520-3998
2K resolution with Qualcomm’s GPU is recommend a level of 5186-6998
2K resolution, non- Qualcomm GPU is recommended a level of 600-1520 ( For example, Samsung S6 and Series Edge )
2K or 4K resolution with Qualcomm GPU both can use level 9998.
The above information is only reference; please adjust to the most appropriate level for specific phones.
1. Higher the GPU ability is, the smoother it will be within a higher level, relatively, a high level with a poor GPU is less effective.
2. After launching touch optimization and being enabled, it can work without running in background (about 1 minute to take effect, depend on CPU’s performance)
3. Do not switch off auto start-up, every time rebooting system requires a auto optimization permission.
There will be a small portion of extra power consumption while enabling the optimization system, and after power consumption will go back to normal.
Advanced function is a smooth level of 300 – 9998, it can be open to use when a phone reaches the standard.
No Root permission needed for all functions.
Sliding optimization will be disabled for some devices while charging, (system controls the effect when it disables) It will be notified of the optimization system disabled while charging.
Download link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lucky.one
Video : https://youtu.be/4EErsNZrpjM
The best part about this app, is that it isn't even posted.
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dictionary said:
The best part about this app, is that it isn't even posted.
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I don't see any link to download.
ndrancs said:
I don't see any link to download.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lucky.one
dictionary said:
The best part about this app, is that it isn't even posted.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lucky.one
Sorry about that forgotten to post the link.
Super App this one
How about making a video on how the app works
interesting im going to test it, subscribed
Im using this app and idk whether it helps to reduce stuttering while scrolling on my phone. But im using a custom lock screen and the lock screen doesn't show during unlock when i enable thiss app. Lock screen shows when this app is disabled.
Hum this app seem to be suspicious! in the description it says the advanced feature can be disabled only with official firmware flash ...
wil123 said:
Hum this app seem to be suspicious! in the description it says the advanced feature can be disabled only with official firmware flash ...
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The app would record the phone's IMEI when unlock advanced function.
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really.. chinese, they cant get enough. always trying to fool.
as soon as iv seen the "advanced feature" page iv uninstalled it. unbelievable
tthmatt said:
The app would record the phone's IMEI when unlock advanced function.
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Why?
working well!
:good::good:
The moment i read "I did not make this app, I'm just helping a China Developer to post on XDA.*" i became skeptical. And the OP keeps spamming with different threads of the same app.
No offense mate but can you give us a rundown or better a video review about this app? I think this is too good to be true to be working well without root.
It will be good to enlighten us.
Tricks25 said:
The moment i read "I did not make this app, I'm just helping a China Developer to post on XDA.*" i became skeptical. And the OP keeps spamming with different threads of the same app.
No offense mate but can you give us a rundown or better a video review about this app? I think this is too good to be true to be working well without root.
It will be good to enlighten us.
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Why don't you try out the app yourself and see the results. [emoji2]
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Tricks25 said:
The moment i read "I did not make this app, I'm just helping a China Developer to post on XDA.*" i became skeptical. And the OP keeps spamming with different threads of the same app.
No offense mate but can you give us a rundown or better a video review about this app? I think this is too good to be true to be working well without root.
It will be good to enlighten us.
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we're not a guinea pigs, there are still chinese text in the app and the english text is not human english. and what is the "advanced feature" exactly.
users wanna use the app but not like that, we need way more info and transparency about it. tnx
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Agreed with the above poster.
And in your video, the app/optimization is "disabled" by plugging in your charger. Ive experienced personally some of my devices become laggier when connected to charger maybe because of actions/apps which are running when plugged in.

Does this tablet just not want to multitask?

So I have had the tablet for a week now, running Marshmallow. Just rooted, nothing more. One thing that is driving me nuts with this tablet is that the way it uses its memory. It does not want to keep apps in memory.
For instance. I can be playing a game, jump out to Chrome, surf for a minute, go to email, then go back to my game and the game needs to reload. I look at the RAM and it says I have like 800mb free. This happens over and over to me.
Is this just normal for the Shield that it aggressively closes apps so fast. I am just comparing to my Nexus 7 that didn't behave like this and I thought it was very odd.
Any advice would be appreciated, thanks!
Good question. I self have noticed this behaver, but I have the K1 only for a bit more than a week too and upgrade directly to Android 6.0, so I can't say if that happens on 5.x too. A Bug? A "Feature" of Android 6.0 or of the K1 itself? What ever it is, I don't like it, makes no sense for me, the K1 have enough RAM.
jev3gs said:
So I have had the tablet for a week now, running Marshmallow. Just rooted, nothing more. One thing that is driving me nuts with this tablet is that the way it uses its memory. It does not want to keep apps in memory.
For instance. I can be playing a game, jump out to Chrome, surf for a minute, go to email, then go back to my game and the game needs to reload. I look at the RAM and it says I have like 800mb free. This happens over and over to me.
Is this just normal for the Shield that it aggressively closes apps so fast. I am just comparing to my Nexus 7 that didn't behave like this and I thought it was very odd.
Any advice would be appreciated, thanks!
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I'm noticing similar behavior but can't effectively tie it to the Marshmallow update either. I'm running stock with Action Launcher 3 as my launcher.
I see the same reload for apps when I've switched between multiple in one sitting. The one place I notice it frequently is in my use of Muzei, which I use in conjunction with Tapet, for changing wallpapers. It seems like at least once a day I access my tablet and notice that the wallpaper has reverted to a stock, static wallpaper and Muzei needs to be "activated".
sfringer said:
I'm noticing similar behavior but can't effectively tie it to the Marshmallow update either. I'm running stock with Action Launcher 3 as my launcher.
I see the same reload for apps when I've switched between multiple in one sitting. The one place I notice it frequently is in my use of Muzei, which I use in conjunction with Tapet, for changing wallpapers. It seems like at least once a day I access my tablet and notice that the wallpaper has reverted to a stock, static wallpaper and Muzei needs to be "activated".
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Well I have no went back to 5.1, and the same problem. I can be playing a game, come out to the browser for a minute or 2, then go back to the game and it needs to be fully reloaded. Honestly I am soo surprised it acts this way, especially with 2GB of ram. It is such a let down. I wish people would have mentioned this in there reviews in the product as I saw it no where. I hate to say it, but it drives me nuts enough I am about to be an Ex-shield owner. I like playing games on this but I am sure other people are like me where they play for 15 -20 minutes. Put it down for a little bit, come back and want to play more. This just doesn't allow for that. It acts more like a portable console. constantly needing to be relaunched.
It's really annoying that it dumps apps out of memory. Like say I'm in Facebook and I want to look up a link in chrome to reply to a comment with.. So I switch to chrome find the link, switch back to Facebook, and now I'm at the main page again and have to scroll and find where I was at and sometimes I just can't and give up. Why Nvidia why?!
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It's really annoying that it dumps apps out of memory. Like say I'm in Facebook and I want to look up a link in chrome to reply to a comment with.. So I switch to chrome find the link, switch back to Facebook, and now I'm at the main page again and have to scroll and find where I was at and sometimes I just can't and give up. Why Nvidia why?!
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As far as I can tell, this is a bug/feature that Nvidia is responsible for. At first, I used to worry about switching between a game like Real Racing 3 and Chrome browser. The game will almost certainly close. Now, the there's an even bigger problem. I can't have a reasonable amount of tabs open in Chrome. They reload each time I switch to them. I considered switching to Firefox and/or Opera to see if the problem would persist but I just can't do without Chrome's syncing capabilities.
The only thing keeping me from rooting and trying out a custom ROM is the loss of Nvidia's proprietary apps.
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As far as I can tell, this is a bug/feature that Nvidia is responsible for. At first, I used to worry about switching between a game like Real Racing 3 and Chrome browser. The game will almost certainly close. Now, the there's an even bigger problem. I can't have a reasonable amount of tabs open in Chrome. They reload each time I switch to them. I considered switching to Firefox and/or Opera to see if the problem would persist but I just can't do without Chrome's syncing capabilities.
The only thing keeping me from rooting and trying out a custom ROM is the loss of Nvidia's proprietary apps.
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The chrome tab problem might not be tablet related. I have the same issue on my Sony Xperia Z3 compact and on my Nexus 9. Maybe chrome sucks up so much ram that it forces android to close app in the background and tabs to unload?
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The chrome tab problem might not be tablet related. I have the same issue on my Sony Xperia Z3 compact and on my Nexus 9. Maybe chrome sucks up so much ram that it forces android to close app in the background and tabs to unload?
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My Marshmallow-running HTC One M8 handles this better than the tablet that has a more powerful hardware. I don't know how many tabs my phone can handle at a time but I know the tablet doesn't even come close in that regard.
I didn't buy a 2GB RAM tablet only to have it treat my browser tabs like an iPad with 1GB of RAM.
Holy crap... uninstall Facebook and Messenger and this thing flies. I always felt like it gamed "ok" but the UI was laggy as hell. Uninstalled FB and Messenger and now this thing is a beast.
T1Pimp said:
Holy crap... uninstall Facebook and Messenger and this thing flies. I always felt like it gamed "ok" but the UI was laggy as hell. Uninstalled FB and Messenger and now this thing is a beast.
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I would recommend that on any android device. I've noticed on all of my devices with facebook that it was listed as the number one app for battery use even when I hadn't launched it in days. After uninstalling it I got improvements in battery life and now I just use their mobile website in chrome. I actually like that better as links open up in a new tab and there is no need to switch apps to go back and forth between facebook and web pages. I also created a home screen link to the facebook mobile website and put it in a folder on one of my home screens.
I hated the aggressive ram management of the stock rom initially so i rooted it and flashed BitO-k4 kernel , it improved but not up to the mark compared to my nexus 5x , now i use CM13 temasek's build (multirom) and it is way way better.
i think the stock rom is the initial culprit here, removing apps like facebook might help but things like swap , zram and ram management values present in stock will always be bottlenecks for true multitasking.
try using different kernels from our community it might help a bit.
Try kernels from 4pda.ru
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=617264&view=findpost&p=48990563
or
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=617264&view=findpost&p=46309014
T1Pimp said:
Holy crap... uninstall Facebook and Messenger and this thing flies. I always felt like it gamed "ok" but the UI was laggy as hell. Uninstalled FB and Messenger and now this thing is a beast.
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If you still want to use fb try the app tinfoil for Facebook. That kinda goes for anyone regardless of what they are using, it's a lot better. Facebook apps suck so bad with resources they slow just about anything down...

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