Hello everyone.
I have had an idea for an app. It's not entirely original, and I am completley green when it comes to app development, but I'm a keen "skills collector" so wouldn't mind learning how to do this. (the end product for me is just the bonus) where would I start?
I am looking to create basically a "control" surface, Similar to any of the Remote Keyboard apps , or any of the "game controllers" but for a specific game, with unique, specific graphics (animations would be a plus. All I would need (yeah I know it's probably not a simple endeavour) is to have custom graphics, trigger keyboard inputs. (analogue control would be a bonus) does anyone have any idea of where to start learning / app builder for someone so new,? I understand I would have to have a client on the PC, would I start by learning how to create that? Or start on the Android side? Basically, What I want to learn how to do, Is make Buttons, Press keystrokes on a PC from an android device.
In my limited Research, Downloading Android Studio, I came across my first Hurdle. Do I Choose to learn Kotlin or Java?
I appreciate your time. Thank you.
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First off I’d like to acknowledge the many of you for really opening up my eyes to what these awesome devices can do. It really still does amaze me how some of you folks here at XDA can really create some truly incredible applications and programs. In fact many of you have inspired me to attempt to learn a little bit about programming myself and I have a few questions from the pros in here as to how I should start.
I do have some very basic, mostly self taught skills with SQL, Visual Basic 6.0, tcl (tool command language), UNIX, and a few other types of software but I’m not very skilled at all in any of them. I’m basically a small step above a ‘user’ but I learn fast, this stuff seems to come easily to me, and I have decent instincts on what to NOT try without consultation or research.
Anyway I’d like to become less dangerous (or more depending on how you look at it) and really learn one language on my own at first then maybe take some real classes. I’d like to gear or lean my learning towards a language that I can use to create PPC programs since that’s my main interest these days but I’m getting a little bit of conflicting info\recommendations. I’m being told to start playing with C and that I can then pretty much learn anything after that. I have someone else saying to just skip the C and start with C++ which is a little easier and has more ‘libraries’ so it isn’t as tedious to do certain things. I then have a guy who knows me and my capabilities somewhat well and said I should just jump right into .Net and the rest will fall into place.
So where would you start if you were basically a beginner and wanted to jump right in? I’d like to minimize the ‘curve’ on learning a new language and focus on one that will get me up and running and having fun fairly quickly and not have to learn one to learn another then a third which will get me where I want to be. I really appreciate all of your input in advance guys and gals!!
Dave
.Net is a great platform but you have to remember it is dependant on the .net framework. For this reason some people to use other languages such as c or c++
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.Net is a great platform but you have to remember it is dependant on the .net framework. For this reason some people to use other languages such as c or c++
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Thanks joel2009!! Looks like C++ is the way I'm going to go. I appreciate your help!!
Dave
You makes your choice........
If you need to use all the fancy .NET objects then it is C# or VB only. Don't bother with the .NET version of C++, as the type castings you have to use to get it to work makes the code hideously unreadable. Dont forget that the target version of the .NET runtime has to match that of the PPC it going to run on. What version is installed on your PPC ? Run \WINDOWS\CGACUTIL.EXE and it will cough up the results.
If it is a simple application use Embedded C++ and stick to the old WIN32 programming model. It is a bit of a pain to master, but your application will run like a bat out of hell. Respond to the WM_xxxxxxx messages sent by the OS to your app, and use the primitive HDC graphics routines to draw to the screen. It's a bit old hat these days but the compiled .EXE will run on nearly any PPC. (ARM compatable)
I've started taking up java and would like to try my hands at android.
I'm going into computer Science at my university and have been taking a Java programming class this semester.
I kinda assumed that I was learning the correct syntax needed to program in Android since I thought it was mostly java based, however ever project we've done (and will do, according to the professor) was based on importing a java library called objectdraw.
I guess my question is weather or not I can import objectdraw into an android app project.
or is there an android version?
any help would be greatly appreciated.
What parts of the objectdraw library do you generally use? I'll be happy to give you some pointers on the Android equivalents (if you don't get an answer to your question)
well, I'm pretty new at it all,
so far we've been creating objects such as rect tangles (framedRect) and other shapes.
asking you to define all of them for me would be a pain for you.
but you did answer my question which was whether or not I would simply be able to use the same commands.
any other tips for someone who's just beginning?
I'd recommend digging through the sample apps that come with the Android SDK. You'll probably find a lot of useful drawing stuff in there, and one or two of them could be a good base project to start from when writing your own apps.
Cause I checked its system specs and its not taxing at all on most devices. Can any of you heavenly xda developers figure this out
wait, are you talking about the Windows XP version?
if so, someone would have to start from scratch to create it. first of all, you can't just port a game with the click of a button because of the different Java languages (C#, C++, etc.) and the fact that you would have to map out touchscreen itself, make it fit a smaller screen , and make use of hardware buttons and similar things.
actually, it would be much easier to start from scratch than use a prexisting code from what i've heard...
i'm not a dev (well, i'm learning!) but that is what i do know from experience and things that I've read.
but yeah, im there with you... there's a few iOS apps that i would kill to have on my android ;3
Hey Guys (and Gals),
I've been in the tech scene for a while, rooting and unlocking android/softmodding psps and xboxs for fun. However recently I wanted to contribute to the scene, and I'm kind of in a dilemma. I want to make a few apps, nothing crazy ambitious just learn how to. Though I'm not sure what platform to do it on. I am kind of torn about doing it on Android or doing it on the Windows marketplace. I want the simplest setup, (i have 2 windows 7 computers, and a htc rezound and toshiba thrive and tf300). I took a college course on C++ but it didn't even touch on guis or go that far in depth. So basically I am starting from scratch either way.
I like android and have a few pieces from them, but I feel as windows is just getting a start it would be a good chance to start also. Furthermore what language is best for each platform? I have heard java for android, but heard a c type program is overtaking, and html and javascript for windows. Any input is greatly appreciated
adamsaur said:
Hey Guys (and Gals),
I've been in the tech scene for a while, rooting and unlocking android/softmodding psps and xboxs for fun. However recently I wanted to contribute to the scene, and I'm kind of in a dilemma. I want to make a few apps, nothing crazy ambitious just learn how to. Though I'm not sure what platform to do it on. I am kind of torn about doing it on Android or doing it on the Windows marketplace. I want the simplest setup, (i have 2 windows 7 computers, and a htc rezound and toshiba thrive and tf300). I took a college course on C++ but it didn't even touch on guis or go that far in depth. So basically I am starting from scratch either way.
I like android and have a few pieces from them, but I feel as windows is just getting a start it would be a good chance to start also. Furthermore what language is best for each platform? I have heard java for android, but heard a c type program is overtaking, and html and javascript for windows. Any input is greatly appreciated
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Woo! Somewhere I can be helpful.
I'd recommend researching a few game engines / frameworks. For example, check out Marmalade SDK (google madewithmarmalade), it's a cross-platform game engine that will abstract your game from the hardware it's running on.
I'd also suggest sticking with c/c++, it's probably the most versatile, and you'll be able to use it with Android, and iOS (and I believe the new Windows 8 mobile platform).
Hope that helps!
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Woo! Somewhere I can be helpful.
I'd recommend researching a few game engines / frameworks. For example, check out Marmalade SDK (google madewithmarmalade), it's a cross-platform game engine that will abstract your game from the hardware it's running on.
I'd also suggest sticking with c/c++, it's probably the most versatile, and you'll be able to use it with Android, and iOS (and I believe the new Windows 8 mobile platform).
Hope that helps!
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thanks, ill definitely look that up, any suggestions for tutorials on using c++ with android/windows?
Hello! I am new to this forum so i could have posted this into wrong section.
I want to start learning how to develop apps for android, but the thing is, i am not able to do it on PC.
Could someone tell me what android applications i need to get, to fully develop an application, which is made in the same quality as it would be made on PC. ( everything, not just programming). At the moment i got only AIDE ( Android IDE ), but i dont think that AIDE is enough to fully develop an application. If its not possible to do 100% of work on android tablet, please tell me. Thank you for your answers!
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Hi, I do have first hand experiene with Android IDE and it's OK if your not able to use your development PC and your really inspired to write some code but you most def will need an external keyboard/mouse if your going to write something bigger than a 'hello world' program. Don't get me wrong, AIDE will get the job done but it will take you much longer, i.e. a single small screen with limited ram/processor does not help.
I don't know your situation for not being able to do it on a PC but if you are serious about becomming a developer then an investment in a desktop/laptop should be at the top of your list, but if you want to test the waters first and all you have access to is a tablet with AIDE then I say go for it, I just hope that the limited enviroment does not discourage you, programming is fun and rewarding if you have the right tools.
Do you have any experience programming?
If not I would recommend you follow the Newboston series of videos for beginning programming with Java first before jumping into Android development, I say development because writing apps for Android consists mostly with writting Java that uses the provided Android API's.
Newboston beginning programming with Java video series (He uses Eclipse here but you can ignore that and just type the same code)
http://thenewboston.org/list.php?cat=31
Newboston application Android development (If you try to complete this without any Java knowledge you will cripple you chances of success)
http://thenewboston.org/list.php?cat=6
Excellent resources provided here at XDA for Android development
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/want-to-learn-how-to-program-for-android-start-here/
p.s. You would be suprised at how cheap you can find a used PC on craigslist, you don't need a gaming monster but get something that is multi-core with at least 4gigs of RAM.