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6gb vs 8gb for better battery life (based on op5t experience)?

I was wondering for light to moderate use which model between the 6gb and 8gb do you think would be more taxing on battery.
I'm assuming I would likely never fill 6gb as I close apps when not in use and only use a handful anyway.
What are your thoughts?

I'm no developer but if I had to guess, I don't think the difference in RAM has any effect on battery life. If it does, I'm sure it's so little it would be impossible to notice. Anyone who is more knowledgeable than me on this, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong!

varignet said:
I was wondering for light to moderate use which model between the 6gb and 8gb do you think would be more taxing on battery.
I'm assuming I would likely never fill 6gb as I close apps when not in use and only use a handful anyway.
What are your thoughts?
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Good question ! I was also wondering the same thing. Logically speaking there should be a difference but only significant if there are less physical chips on board for the 6GB model. I am very much inclined to order the 6GB model for a bit better battery life - 64GB of storage is plenty for me anyway.

Cst79 said:
Good question ! I was also wondering the same thing. Logically speaking there should be a difference but only significant if there are less physical chips on board for the 6GB model. I am very much inclined to order the 6GB model for a bit better battery life - 64GB of storage is plenty for me anyway.
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Thing is, just like with flash storage, the controller and actual configuration of the chips will make power consumption vary wildly. We don't know the clock speed of the LPDDR4X RAM they are using, maybe it's different between the 6 and 8gb version.
Same as with the NAND chips, many factors have an influence on the electrical consumption and maybe they tweaked the 128 and 256gb version to be more energy conservative at the cost of speed.... speed that may be regained due to the fact that NAND arrays/strings are faster when there are more cells in them.
Then there's the use-case... IF the 8GB version has worse energy consumption values, maybe it still has better battery life because it can store more apps in RAM and has less need to constantly access the flash memory ?
TL;DR : we can make hypothesis but in the end there's just too much we don't know to really say if one is more energy efficient than the other.

more goods is better always !!
now with 8gb ram I can open all my apps and keeps them opened all day which will stress less processor power and keep battery.
Also, I need as much as possible storage, 256gb is ok for now.

We don't know how to get fine the kernel and OS for more ram, I would hope they would reduce compression so it strains the CPU less i.e. zram, or use the extra space to cache more things across the OS to keep things more consistent. I don't notice anymore apps open on the 8gb op6 Vs 6gb op5t.
In saying that my op6 has yet to use more than 5gb ram

ram uses the same power regardless
if the chip is the same - both use the same amount of power
only difference will be one can have more apps in memory than the other (assuming you can fill 6GB of ram... on a phone...)
other than that zero difference

Considering how experiences on the battery related threads seem to vary wildly, I wonder if this is the cause?
I was considering downgrading from an 8Gb version to 6Gb, but if I plan to keep this phone for a few years is it better to hold on to the 8Gb?
3Gb seemed like overkill when I first got my OPO but now it is less than some budget phones provide.

My OP6 - 6Gb close Google Maps and Sportify with 2,1 GB free...
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Nothing to do with battery life, but there seems to be some very aggressive ram management on the OP6 which affects the 6Gb version much more than the 8Gb: https://youtu.be/t5UEN2vpchQ
Maybe I will keep the 8Gb version after all.

16GB on 512 model?

See no mention of this.
Have they backpedaled on max RAM?

cpufrost said:
See no mention of this.
Have they backpedaled on max RAM?
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yes less than on the s20 ultra unfortunately 12gb only.
they say things have been so optimized on the note and faster internal storage 12 is enough.
the note is supposed to be THE sammy flagship yet its less so in the ram dept (and a few others) than the S20 ultra.
not good

UFS? Is 3.1 so they say 16GB is not needed

I've hit 12GB RAM on my S20 Ultra in use. It will use more ram if it has it just like a 128GB Windows 10 box will be using close to 10GB idle.
And the fact the screen is still 60Hz at QHD.
Doesn't seem to be much of an upgrade to me.
Perhaps if they were giving me $750 trade in, maybe, just maybe but I think this may be a pass which makes it the first time I didn't get a Note.
Waiting for S30 leaks now!

note 10+ 5g variants

not sure if this is the right forum.... i am considering the note 10+ 5g.... i am currently looking at the 976u and the 976b variants.....i understand the u variant is not rootable (locked bootloader) and the b version is rootable... also are the wireless channels the same, or would i lose something in using the european version in the US......any help or advice anyone can give would be appreciated....TIA

Hi! someone with that device might see this, but check that device's forum section here:
Samsung Galaxy Note 10+
The Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ is a 6.8" phone with a 1440x3040p resolution display. The Exynos 9825/Snapdragon 855 chipset is paired with 12GB of RAM and 256/512GB of storage. The main camera is 12+12+16MP and the selfie camera is 10MP. The battery has a 4300mAh capacity.
forum.xda-developers.com

galaxys said:
Hi! someone with that device might see this, but check that device's forum section here:
Samsung Galaxy Note 10+
The Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ is a 6.8" phone with a 1440x3040p resolution display. The Exynos 9825/Snapdragon 855 chipset is paired with 12GB of RAM and 256/512GB of storage. The main camera is 12+12+16MP and the selfie camera is 10MP. The battery has a 4300mAh capacity.
forum.xda-developers.com
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thank you... i will post in that forum

I'd get the 512 gb 12 gb of ram 4G Snapdragon variant if you don't want to root.
The 5G speed gains aren't that great and the battery life will take a hit. Average 20% speed increase is what I've seen reported.
I have the former and it's a great phone.
You can get a Lexar V30 512 gb SD card for about $75. Get the Buds+ or Buds Pro.
You now have a dual drive 1 tb handheld PC...

blackhawk said:
I'd get the 512 gb 12 gb of ram 4G Snapdragon variant if you don't want to root.
The 5G speed gains aren't that great and the battery life will take a hit. Average 20% speed increase is what I've seen reported.
I have the former and it's a great phone.
You can get a Lexar V30 512 gb SD card for about $75. Get the Buds+ or Buds Pro.
You now have a dual drive 1 tb handheld PC...
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yeah im considering that, but i am also looking at root possibility and as i understand it the snapdragon is not rootable

blackhawk said:
I'd get the 512 gb 12 gb of ram 4G Snapdragon variant if you don't want to root.
The 5G speed gains aren't that great and the battery life will take a hit. Average 20% speed increase is what I've seen reported.
I have the former and it's a great phone.
You can get a Lexar V30 512 gb SD card for about $75. Get the Buds+ or Buds Pro.
You now have a dual drive 1 tb handheld PC...
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thank you

Question Ram+ in latest firmware update

I haven't seen anyone mention but the latest update we got has the RAM+ feature that adds 4 more GB of RAM so total of 12GB RAM now. check it out in Memory settings...

ShayMagen said:
I haven't seen anyone mention but the latest update we got has the RAM+ feature that adds 4 more GB of RAM so total of 12GB RAM now. check it out in Memory settings...
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Are you sure it isn't virtual RAM?
It is virtual memory, as in you lose X GB of internal storage to act as "fake" RAM, which will actually shorten the lifespan of the storage.
It's only somewhat of a boost. Think of it as 2/3 of the actual amount of RAM it claims to emulate because you have to consider the loss for being a mounted image. It will allow you to run a little more, but may also come with hiccups.

twistedumbrella said:
Are you sure it isn't virtual RAM? As in you lose X GB of internal storage to act as "fake" RAM, which will actually shorten the lifespan of the storage.
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Yup thats virtual RAM

twistedumbrella said:
Are you sure it isn't virtual RAM?
It is virtual memory, as in you lose X GB of internal storage to act as "fake" RAM, which will actually shorten the lifespan of the storage.
It's only somewhat of a boost. Think of it as 2/3 of the actual amount of RAM it claims to emulate because you have to consider the loss for being a mounted image. It will allow you to run a little more, but may also come with hiccups.
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Yeah will be a slow RAM

Is it active all the time or need to be activated manually?

It is active all the time. Found no way to deactivate

eybee1970 said:
It is active all the time. Found no way to deactivate
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Stay within the hardware and it won't be used.
I'd be interested to know where it's created. If they managed to free up the extra space in the system (or some other dedicated) partition, it may not be that bad. It would be a shame to have lost the space in storage without any option to disable it.

I don't see what the point of that is, I don't fill the ram to begin with, it mostly sits at 4.6GB used.

phatmanxxl said:
I don't see what the point of that is, I don't fill the ram to begin with, it mostly sits at 4.6GB used.
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The S20 and S21 base models were 8GB. The Note 20 Ultra and S21 Ultra were 12GB. The Galaxy Z Fold is 12GB. The point is to take a little pressure off the phone not living up to current "high-end" devices. It's probably also a little bit of an apology for a decision Samsung regrets.

twistedumbrella said:
The S20 and S21 base models were 8GB. The Note 20 Ultra and S21 Ultra were 12GB. The Galaxy Z Fold is 12GB. The point is to take a little pressure off the phone not living up to current "high-end" devices. It's probably also a little bit of an apology for a decision Samsung regrets.
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That makes sense, I debloated this phone as much as possible so it would go easy on the ram and battery but I can see the average normie having several social media apps running 24/7 on these phones.

Question 128 or 256 GB?

I can upgrade my phone really cheap through work. My current daily driver is an unlocked Galaxy S22 Ultra 256 GB. I like that phone a lot, but I want to try a Pixel 7 Pro (I used to have a Pixel 3 XL), particularly for the camera. Specifically, I can either get an AT&T 128 GB Pixel 7 Pro for a mere $99 or a 256 GB one for $289. So the difference between 128 GB and 256 GB is $190, which seems pretty steep to me. That's why I'm considering the 128 GB version, even though I'm currently using a 256 GB Galaxy S22 Ultra.
I'm currently using about 140 GB on my S22 Ultra, but that includes 46 GB of music (even though I actually listen to perhaps 10 GB worth and I had added all the rest mostly 'cos I could), about 42 GB of photos and videos (although I don't need to keep every photo and video I take on my phone), and about 28 GB worth of apps. I don't game at all.
Which one would you do? 128 or 256 GB? How much actual space do you have at your disposal on each of storage options? Is the $190 difference between 128 and 256 GB worth it? (I know, I know, very much a first-world "problem"...
Thanks!
--Ron

dutch_in_seattle said:
I can upgrade my phone really cheap through work. My current daily driver is an unlocked Galaxy S22 Ultra 256 GB. I like that phone a lot, but I want to try a Pixel 7 Pro (I used to have a Pixel 3 XL), particularly for the camera. Specifically, I can either get an AT&T 128 GB Pixel 7 Pro for a mere $99 or a 256 GB one for $289. So the difference between 128 GB and 256 GB is $190, which seems pretty steep to me. That's why I'm considering the 128 GB version, even though I'm currently using a 256 GB Galaxy S22 Ultra.
I'm currently using about 140 GB on my S22 Ultra, but that includes 46 GB of music (even though I actually listen to perhaps 10 GB worth and I had added all the rest mostly 'cos I could), about 42 GB of photos and videos (although I don't need to keep every photo and video I take on my phone), and about 28 GB worth of apps. I don't game at all.
Which one would you do? 128 or 256 GB? How much actual space do you have at your disposal on each of storage options? Is the $190 difference between 128 and 256 GB worth it? (I know, I know, very much a first-world "problem"...
Thanks!
--Ron
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Honestly, only you can decide whether it's worth it for you. For some it may be worth it because they need the space and the trade-in value will be greater, while others may not think it's worth it. And only you know what your financial situation is.
I know, not helpful, but hey, it's really a matter of how you feel about it. Either way, it's still a very good bargain you're getting.

I would use a storage analyzer app to see what is using up your storage and decide if you can cut down or not. Keep in mind you want to have at least 10% of the storage unused for best performance. 128GB formatted storage is about 118GB, system uses about 14GB, minus 10% buffer = roughly 93GB of usable storage give or take.

At this day and age I would NEVER buy any phone with less than 256GB because the camera photos/videos are very large to start off with.
What you can do though since you already have a good phone, get the 128GB since it's way cheaper, use a streaming service like Spotify for music and for your photos and whatnot, when you take a good collection of photos/videos either upload them to the cloud or remove them from the phone and store them safely on your computer.

I would naturally lean towards getting the 256 GB version, but that would just about *triple* the cost ($99 > $289), which just seems so stupid, just to double the storage. I'd pay almost twice as much for the option to go from 128 to 256 GB than for the entire 128 GB phone ($99 vs. $190)! Sure, either way is a lot cheaper than paying full price, but I'm thinking that this phone won't be my daily driver, although I might love it so much I'd ditch my S22 Ultra---who knows...
I continue to stew on this...

Went for the 128gb myself. Almost everything I do is streamed, and I regularly backup my photos to my NAS and Amazon photos, meaning I can delete what I have on the phone. Not much point in my spending an extra £100 for something I won't use.
However, each person is different. If you have 100gb of music and video files? Then it's a no brainer and the 256gb is the way to go.

My Pixel 6 Pro was a 256GB one but for me the extra space was right waste of extra money so i went for a 128GB Pixel 7 Pro.
However if you think you are going to use more space then buy a phone with more space because you will only end up kicking yourself if you fill it up.

dutch_in_seattle said:
I would naturally lean towards getting the 256 GB version, but that would just about *triple* the cost ($99 > $289), which just seems so stupid, just to double the storage. I'd pay almost twice as much for the option to go from 128 to 256 GB than for the entire 128 GB phone ($99 vs. $190)! Sure, either way is a lot cheaper than paying full price, but I'm thinking that this phone won't be my daily driver, although I might love it so much I'd ditch my S22 Ultra---who knows...
I continue to stew on this...
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The Pro version also comes with a extra 4gb of ram then the normal version and a bigger display which is why it's a extra $190

I'm talking about Pixel 7 Pro 128 GB vs. Pixel 7 Pro 256 GB, not Pixel 7 vs. Pixel 7 Pro.
Anyway, I've opted for the 256 GB version, even though it was $190 more than the 128 GB version. Even at $289, it's a steal. I'm excited to try it out and see if I like it so much that I'll sell my current S22 Ultra.
--Ron

My bad I'm just dumb and misread sorry

Basically you ask other people if you can use less storage.
I can only answer for myself. I use 40% of my 128GB storage on the Nothing Phone 1.
IDK how this should help you but there you go.

I have 256Gb variant and I'm using 61Gb of 246Gb storage. So 128Gb for isn't enought.

Another way to look at it is the extra 128GB of storage on the phone costs the same as 4 years worth of 200GB Google One storage (UK prices).

There's a 512Gb version too!

Shmackitup said:
There's a 512Gb version too!
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USA only I think.

I got the 512gb... I used almost all the 256... Next phone will be 1tb

Thanks to Google Photos, I don't feel the need for more than 128GB of memory at all.

256gb for me although so far, have only used about 35gb of it. It's a fear thing, fear of running out of space (which never happens) and fear of not being able to move it on at a later date, I always feel the bigger storage options go first and will get slightly more...

Google,
if there was 1Tb unlocked version,
I would paid more for it !!

x111 said:
Google,
if there was 1Tb unlocked version,
I would paid more for it !!
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xactly this. Lol,
if i don't split phone between personal and business, i would already pick up Xperia phone instead of my current P7P.
am glad that i have my Aquos R6 on other side of my pockets. It has microSD slot and allow me to slot in my 1TB card there.
phone with larger storage tend to be usable for longer time as well, thus less upgrade / phone changes needed.