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When I'm playing games such as Asphalt 9, PUBG or shadowgun legends on max resolution, max brightness and bluetooth on my Oneplus 7 pro's CPU temperature gets really hot, like really hot 73 degrees Celsius when playing for only 30 minutes. The weathers temperature is 17 degrees Celsius. Below is an attachment of the CPU's temperature graph. The screenshots are made a minute or so after closing the game Shadowgun Legends. I'm kinda worried of damaging the hardware with such temperatures. Is it normal to have such high temperatures and does it damage any of the hardware inside? And does anyone experience the same issue?
This just in! Playing graphics-intense games on a phone makes it hot! More at 11:00.
u should have gotten nubia red magic 3 instead.. op7pro is an allrounder.. perfect for modding, camera, display king etc.. it games good but if u want to replace your pc gaming with a phone u should have gone with red magic.. that thing is MADE SPECIALLY FOR THAT.
Saqrez said:
When I'm playing games such as Asphalt 9, PUBG or shadowgun legends on max resolution, max brightness and bluetooth on my Oneplus 7 pro's CPU temperature gets really hot, like really hot 73 degrees Celsius when playing for only 30 minutes. The weathers temperature is 17 degrees Celsius. Below is an attachment of the CPU's temperature graph. The screenshots are made a minute or so after closing the game Shadowgun Legends. I'm kinda worried of damaging the hardware with such temperatures. Is it normal to have such high temperatures and does it damage any of the hardware inside? And does anyone experience the same issue?
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Slash8915 said:
This just in! Playing graphics-intense games on a phone makes it hot! More at 11:00.
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I understand that a phone gets really hot while gaming but 73 degrees Celsius really scared me.
sensationvsgalaxy said:
u should have gotten nubia red magic 3 instead.. op7pro is an allrounder.. perfect for modding, camera, display king etc.. it games good but if u want to replace your pc gaming with a phone u should have gone with red magic.. that thing is MADE SPECIALLY FOR THAT.
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I really like the phone but as you say oneplus 7 pro is an allrounder. I don't play that often to buy a phone specifically for gaming but I hoped that the 10 layers cooling in the oneplus 7 pro would work a little better.
For some reason the 7 pro is set to throttle at much higher temperatures than normal, I suppose in order to preserve performance but it gets too hot and battery drains horribly fast. Personally I think they should adress this because above 50 is just too much even directly on the SOC, there have been situations like this in the past and they were adressed accordingly.
kingbasescu said:
For some reason the 7 pro is set to throttle at much higher temperatures than normal, I suppose in order to preserve performance but it gets too hot and battery drains horribly fast. Personally I think they should adress this because above 50 is just too much even directly on the SOC, there have been situations like this in the past and they were adressed accordingly.
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do you know anything about silicon? these chips can stand over 120 degrees celsius.
the SOC isnt something i'd worry about, maybe the other components, but still 50 degrees is perfectly normal.
virtyx said:
do you know anything about silicon? these chips can stand over 120 degrees celsius.
the SOC isnt something i'd worry about, maybe the other components, but still 50 degrees is perfectly normal.
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I think I should ask you that same question. It's definitely safe for the cpu to go as high as 70 C, but that heat needs to go somewhere and it will fry you fingers, so it's not really great for the user. Your 120 C claim is bollocks, you won't get close to that with any phone component, especially with newer ones, as the lower the process node, the lower the throttling temps are set(at least ideally). The 7 pro doesn't throttle as much as other devices, but it sure gets hotter than them, as anandtech has noted in their review.
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I think I should ask you that same question. It's definitely safe for the cpu to go as high as 70 C, but that heat needs to go somewhere and it will fry you fingers, so it's not really great for the user. Your 120 C claim is bollocks, you won't get close to that with any phone component, especially with newer ones, as the lower the process node, the lower the throttling temps are set(at least ideally). The 7 pro doesn't throttle as much as other devices, but it sure gets hotter than them, as anandtech has noted in their review.
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i said they can STAND that temperature, not that should get to that temperature.
IMO anything under 60-70 degrees C is safe. if it starts to climb above 70 then i would think something is wrong.
also OP phones have throttling at higher temps, it took 65 degrees for my OP6 to throttle down.
my Pixel3XL would throttle at 45-50 degrees (idle on them was 35 so its nonsense)
I know so many oneplus 7 pro users but you're the first person I've come across of this issue... I'm facing the same issue its even reaching 80°c on my OnePlus 7 pro. it wasn't earlier but this problem came after the latest update and i tried downgrading but it didnt help either so I'm pretty sure its a software bug.
Since there are only a few people OnePlus has not addressed the issue yet just make this issue more popular.
Saqrez said:
I understand that a phone gets really hot while gaming but 73 degrees Celsius really scared me.
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73° is nothing... youre phone cant overheat, it will throttle down to prevent overheating... just play and have fun.
My phone is One plus 7 pro. While charging batter get over heated at 48 degree celceius. I got the messgae display to shut the power as it will not charge the battery beyond 91%. So there is auto temp set us in the phone to take so much heat.
thanks to Oneplus design strategy.
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Hi,
I have Poco X2 and been using it for more than a month. I notice more temperatures even when not gaming and I saw some people got temperature warnings while using camera for more time. Realme X2 and Poco X2 have same chipsets but i see realme phone doesnt gets heat even while gaming and this poco also has LIQUID COOLING(whats the point of it). Is this software or hardware issue?. Can I believe that this issue be fixed after good software update?
It's one or two cases my phone never heats up, i play pubg on hdr settings (taking advantage of hdr display) and its warm to touch but never reached uncomfortable levels.
vivek12341 said:
Hi,
I have Poco X2 and been using it for more than a month. I notice more temperatures even when not gaming and I saw some people got temperature warnings while using camera for more time. Realme X2 and Poco X2 have same chipsets but i see realme phone doesnt gets heat even while gaming and this poco also has LIQUID COOLING(whats the point of it). Is this software or hardware issue?. Can I believe that this issue be fixed after good software update?
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yes it does heat up quite often. i feel it heats up more than other phones with same config. if i play a little or watch youtube while chagring it gets approx 40 degrees or even more. Dont know how they implemented the cooling system but its definetly doesnt work
Been using the phone for 24 hours now, don't really see much point in the 120hz rate, only notice it slightly smoother if scrolling up and down quickly.
I guess it's more for games (?).
I will stick with 60hz and save some battery, seems fine to me.
The 120hz are very good, the problem is that there are so many lags and frame drop.
DonkeyKonk said:
Been using the phone for 24 hours now, don't really see much point in the 120hz rate, only notice it slightly smoother if scrolling up and down quickly.
I guess it's more for games (?).
I will stick with 60hz and save some battery, seems fine to me.
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same here, turned it off... 60hz is fine... 120hz impact on battery is not worth it
I'm more interested in its 240Hz touch sampling rate...
I think the screen response time is around 4-5ms which makes the image smear and not take advantage of the 120hz
I absolutely love the 120hz. I have the Mi 9T with 60hz here for comparison, and the handling on it feels just awful now. Terribly stuttery. I don't play any games, just scrolling all day long on Reddit.
No idea how you can still use 60hz voluntarily. I also get 10h SOT at 120hz, so battery is really not a problem.
Yes 60Hz / 120Hz on the daily usage is noticeable in things like scrolling and some animation, but I can live without it.
On gaming is a completely different story, is a lot noticeable. I'm really not a mobile gamer but installed the old Max Payne (one of my all time favourite games) for the dead times and it's a hell of a difference between 60Hz / 120Hz.
As a 60Hz PC peasant right now, I prefer look at Max Payne in my phone that at my PC! :laugh:
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I absolutely love the 120hz. I have the Mi 9T with 60hz here for comparison, and the handling on it feels just awful now. Terribly stuttery. I don't play any games, just scrolling all day long on Reddit.
No idea how you can still use 60hz voluntarily. I also get 10h SOT at 120hz, so battery is really not a problem.
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Same, the difference is night and day . I will never go back to 60hz after this.
True 60hz is horrible after experiencing 90/120 Hz I have a TCL 10 pro with a Amoled Display and comparing it with its 60hz the Poco X3 wins hands down for fluid even if it's not Amoled wish they had made it Amoled or Oled would of smashed any competition out of the water I would of even paid bit extra Lol , few things I've noticed are bit choppy is Google feed and play store when scrolling but prob don't support 120hz yet it's the same on my OnePlus 8 pro even
Hopefully future updates will iron out the niggles but for the price I'm blown away with it so far only gripe is LCD is so dated now but then for the price it's expected is a little bit of light bleed at the bottom of display anybody else notice this ??? Or am I just unfortunate and have a bad one if so I can get it replaced with Amazon ,[emoji106]
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Same problem here, the Google feed seems to run at 60hz. The drawer also semms to drop some frame, isn't amoot as the home page.
If you are interested, you can check the current refreshrate and fps in any app by going into the developer settings --> power monitor --> press "start" on Frame Rate Monitor Tools.
I always have to press the start button twice, then it shows the current fps in green. Current refreshrate is shown with blue background.
The adaptive refreshrate works good in my opinion, e.g. in Youtube it quickly jumps down to 30hz / 60hz depending on the type of video.
Thx for the monitor tip!
You are correct with YouTube running on 60Hz.
But it is strange that the poco launcher is constantly running on 120fps without touching the screen.
I switched to nova launcher. Same results
They haven't implemented it very well. It felt better on the realme 6 and x50. The recents and Google page feels like 60
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developer settings --> power monitor --> press "start" on Frame Rate Monitor Tools.
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Mario Kart average was about 115fps, menus locked at 30
For the ammount of battery that 120hz chugs it's not worth it for me
I've also tried with this tool, and i've seen major frame drop in the home screen, like 115 to 100 is a second, and thats the moments you can see the stutter. The multitask menu runs at 90hz, and youtube and google discover at 60. But there is an issue, this phone never reach the 120hz, except when in idle, and this frame variations make the user experience way "laggy": it would be a good idea to lock the fps at 100hz, but very stable, than a continously dropping and false 120hz.
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I've also tried with this tool, and i've seen major frame drop in the home screen, like 115 to 100 is a second, and thats the moments you can see the stutter. The multitask menu runs at 90hz, and youtube and google discover at 60. But there is an issue, this phone never reach the 120hz, except when in idle, and this frame variations make the user experience way "laggy": it would be a good idea to lock the fps at 100hz, but very stable, than a continously dropping and false 120hz.
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Is there a method to lock the refresh rate?
Actually no.
https://youtu.be/JZNnB3JYhNA
This guy seems to have a method to lock the rate at 120hz, on all apps untill a phone is rebooted.... have tried yet
I can't see 120Hz Slow, unrealistic screen. HDR looks like old display. Whit yellowish, green photos.
Hi, I am thinking to buy x3 Pro, but at first i want to know if all problems are already fixed.
I read a lot of comments about problems, but most of these comments are 3+ months old, so...
1) under load it gets very hot. Throttling...
Just by running Antutu benchmark few times, you see how score drops over 100K.
2) Touch issues
3) lags in games, Laggy UI, delay when scrolling
4) fast battery drain
5) network Issues, unstable data connection
6) unexpected shutdowns, screen freezes
7) back panel vibration when audio is playing
There are more, but these are most common.
I hope most of these problems come from their "amazing" MiUI, and can be fixed.
I can only confirm point 7 but it's not so noticable unless you are banging music at high volume.
No heat issues but then i'm not running Antutu over and over. No touch issues here but some people mentioned it. Laggy UI? First time hearing this lmao. It's butter smooth even on MIUI. I get 3 days of battery life with 10h SoT on average with 120Hz, i dont think it's bad.. plus i'm using navigation (GPS) and camera quite abit, you can probably get more than that easily. Never had any network or random shutdown issues (almost 20 days uptime, since last update of ArrowOS) probably some people with magisk / mods reported it.
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I can only confirm point 7 but it's not so noticable unless you are banging music at high volume.
No heat issues but then i'm not running Antutu over and over. No touch issues here but some people mentioned it. Laggy UI? First time hearing this lmao. It's butter smooth even on MIUI. I get 3 days of battery life with 10h SoT on average with 120Hz, i dont think it's bad.. plus i'm using navigation (GPS) and camera quite abit, you can probably get more than that easily. Never had any network or random shutdown issues (almost 20 days uptime, since last update of ArrowOS) probably some people with magisk / mods reported it.
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I would agree, although I'm not going so good SoT (but since I'm a light user I still get very good battery life).
Never forget that people report issues, not good experiences. If you look at each indvividual grievance, you'll never buy any phone anyway
"i'm not running Antutu over and over"
It's just one of ways to put your phone under load and immediately see/compare results.
Many smartphone reviewers do this test to see if phone will throttle.
Check this video:
I found video where we can see x3 pro from inside.
On the left is x3 NFC and on the right x3 Pro.
Very interesting decision for x3 pro.
There is copper tape, instead of metallic plate.
Plus, you see that thermal paste is only on memory (3x pro).
If they don't use paste and there is not enough pressure then heat will not be dissipated by pipe.
And here you can see how much they use thermal paste between tape and pipe.
3 small lines on CPU and a bit for memory.
Just look how much more contact surface is on x3 NFC.
Now i understand why x3 pro is so hot.
If your x3 pro is not hot, then you are lucky (there is enough pressure/paste).
If you are not lucky, then idk. It's faulty phone.
1. Yes, the phone gets really hot, but that is only while gaming, especially when on mobile data. I just bought a cheap cooler and everything is fine
2. I had problems on AncientOS only, now on Crdroid i dont have it
3. Games dont lag, ofc u cant play Genshin Impact maxed out, but overall the gaming experience is smooth. On Crdroid i have no problems with scrolling, but i also use Samsung Browser and Relay for Reddit, Chrome and Reddit app were laggy even on custom roms
4. Battery drain is a problem of MIUI, on custom roms i get 8-10h of screen time from 100-20%, but i feel like i should get more than 2-3h of gaming
5. & 6. No problems
7. Yes, the back of the phone vibrates while listening at max volume, which is to be expected with how loud the speakers are and i dont see how this is a problem. Did the people who complain about this ever hold a speaker? Even overhead headphones vibrate while listening at high volume.
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but i feel like i should get more than 2-3h of gaming
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wait, only 2-3 hours of gaming and battery is empty?
"Yes, the phone gets really hot, but that is only while gaming"
I think we all will agree that it shouldn't be like this. Either Chipset is hotter than they expected and cooling solution used in older models can't handle it. In this case they had to slightly undervolt/downclock. Or they have huge % of faulty phones (cooling problem) and they simply close eyes on it.
But maybe it all goes by the plan. They know that chip will be hot, but it's fast and it's enough to get good sales.
Yes, its around that, but i mostly play CoD mobile and Wild Rift maxed out, so that might play into that.
I also agree that the cooling solution isn't that good to use this phone to the max and no update will ever fix it without a performance drop. Honestly this device would have been better suited with a SD855, the SD860 is too hot for the device, or at least the body of the phone didnt allow for a better cooling solution. But i guess they didnt want to have a 2 years old chip in a new phone, even if overall that would allow the phone to work faster for a longer period of time.
Pampam666 said:
7. Yes, the back of the phone vibrates while listening at max volume, which is to be expected with how loud the speakers are and i dont see how this is a problem. Did the people who complain about this ever hold a speaker? Even overhead headphones vibrate while listening at high volume.
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It's not normal. It's defect, same as cooling system.
Here you can see comparison with Redmi Note 10 Pro at max volume.
Being honest i really dont mind it, actually i enjoy it, the speakers feel powerful.
I feel many of the bugs described on first post and I find it a real shame what POCCO has done with this phone. Cheap phone? Yes! Powerfull? Yes! and... It works as expected? No!
On the other side, there are more than 10 different ROMs available for this phone and most of them are the same. Same bugs and same problems but with different skin.
I loved this phone but after see how it evolves, i feel like i did a bad investiment. Next time i will go for Realme.
new_member_2021 said:
Hi, I am thinking to buy x3 Pro, but at first i want to know if all problems are already fixed.
I read a lot of comments about problems, but most of these comments are 3+ months old, so...
1) under load it gets very hot. Throttling...
Just by running Antutu benchmark few times, you see how score drops over 100K.
2) Touch issues
3) lags in games, Laggy UI, delay when scrolling
4) fast battery drain
5) network Issues, unstable data connection
6) unexpected shutdowns, screen freezes
7) back panel vibration when audio is playing
There are more, but these are most common.
I hope most of these problems come from their "amazing" MiUI, and can be fixed.
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I had some of the these issues when I was on miui and before unlocking BL. Phone gets warm during gaming which is perfectly normal and on par with other phones.
I sold my galaxy note 10+ for poco x3 pro, it was the best decision I made this year. Gaming got better with no throttling on custom rom, more fluid, better battery life, native google ui.
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better battery life
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how many hours you can play games, or watch videos?
For example, on Realme 8 you can play pubg 6-7 hours (14%/h). On poco x3 pro, around 4 hours (23%/h) But can you squeeze 6+ gameplay hours from x3 pro on lower settings?
new_member_2021 said:
how many hours you can play games, or watch videos?
For example, on Realme 8 you can play pubg 6-7 hours (14%/h). On poco x3 pro, around 4 hours (23%/h) But can you squeeze 6+ gameplay hours from x3 pro on lower settings?
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I haven't tested that long prolonged gameplays. My comment was against my previous phones - galaxy note 10+ and black shark 2 and it easily lasts for 2 days for my usage. But 4 hrs in 23%/h is still a good life, isn't it? don't get killed yourself playing for so long
new_member_2021 said:
how many hours you can play games, or watch videos?
For example, on Realme 8 you can play pubg 7+ hours. Of course settings will be lower, but can you squeeze 7 gameplay hours from x3 pro (even on lower settings)?
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Pointless comparison, Realme 8 SoC is about twice slower. It's like comparing if Ferrari or Volkswagen Golf will empty their fuel tanks first. Ofcourse Ferrari will but there is a reason for that. Not to mention 120 vs 60 Hz screen.
k3lcior said:
Pointless comparison, Realme 8 SoC is about twice slower. It's like comparing if Ferrari or Volkswagen Golf will empty their fuel tanks first. Ofcourse Ferrari will but there is a reason for that. Not to mention 120 vs 60 Hz screen.
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Dude turn off this "protective" mode. I am not comparing, i am asking question.
I understand, you own this phone and it's most amazing thing you ever had.
"It's like comparing if Ferrari or Volkswagen Golf"
Reality is that there are more powerful phones on smaller batteries and they live way longer then poco x3 pro. For example poco F3 with 4520 mAh. Even if x3 pro has 5160 mAh, it's battery is empty at point where F3 has more then 20%. And both phones has 120Hz screens. Only difference is that F3 has amoled display.
k3lcior, i am asking question (it's not comparison): why F3 with smaller battery lives way longer? Is it because of amoled display? Is it because of chip which is hot as hell? or?
if we compare processors:
Snapdragon 870 vs Snapdragon 860: tests and benchmarks
We put Qualcomm Snapdragon 870 against Snapdragon 860 to find out which SoC is better. See performance comparison in benchmarks and games.
nanoreview.net
we see that "Efficiency of battery consumption" is the same, so problem shouldn't be in cpu.
so, amoled display does all magic?
I'm not defensive and no it's not most amazing thing i ever had. And yes you are not comparing, but you are asking to compare no?
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so, amoled display does all magic?
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It does save battery when there are blacks on the screen because they are not 'powered' on AMOLED screens on that large screen it can make large difference. There are also more small details which also can make some difference for example SD card slot, Poco F3 doesn't have one and Poco X3 Pro has one which has to be powered at all times.
Not to mention GSM signal, small signal difference can easily make several % battery life difference which can be easily manipulated hence why these comparisons are idiotic.
And btw. here is less than 40 min. difference in battery life from what i see.
Edit: Also UFS 3.1 in Poco F3 is more power efficient compared to UFS 3.0 in X3 Pro.
Question was, if on poco x3 pro you can squeeze out 6+ hours of pubg gameplay (even on low quality).
Everything else was just additional info.
Why i am asking? Many poco x3 pro owners wrote that battery life is bad. I am trying to understand if problem is software based, or hardware. If software, it can be fixed, if hardware, then you have powerful phone with bad battery life. If F3 and X3 Pro are both on the same soft, then seems that problem is hardware based (IPS screen).
I saw this test and F3 has 24% of battery when x3 pro dies:
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Why i am asking? Many poco x3 pro owners wrote that battery life is bad.
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You will find people write this for every single phone there is on a planet. I already said what can make battery life difference between the 2 phones and it's not only screen, try reading again.
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try reading again.
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dude you are so toxic.. im out.
Actually I find your attitude toxic. You make some good points but you listen to nothing!
I could tell you that the phone is great, that your points are somehow valid but not really IRL. I'm afraid of your attack though.
Good luck with the phone.
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dude you are so toxic.. im out.
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Hello everyone.
I bought Xperia 5 III about 3 days ago. While playing PUBG Mobile or other games, the device reduces the refresh rate to 60hz even though it hardly gets hot. Is there a setting we can do to prevent this? For example, when you delete the software called Battery & Performance on MIUI devices, such problems did not occur.
I don't really play games but I noticed the overall UI seems smoother with high refresh rate off. Scrolling long feeds even YouTube is stuttering.once it's on 60hz everything is smooth. Can't explain it.
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Hello everyone.
I bought Xperia 5 III about 3 days ago. While playing PUBG Mobile or other games, the device reduces the refresh rate to 60hz even though it hardly gets hot. Is there a setting we can do to prevent this? For example, when you delete the software called Battery & Performance on MIUI devices, such problems did not occur.
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I recently upgraded my 5 II to a 5 III and although I still don't wanna believe it, it's getting pretty obvious that the phone throttles the FPS from 120 to 60 Hz. The Xperia 5 II only did this sometimes when you were charging and gaming simulatenously.
However with the 5 III it sometimes tends to throttle just when you are surfing through the net or using some apps. During gaming without charging it also throttles often.
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I don't really play games but I noticed the overall UI seems smoother with high refresh rate off. Scrolling long feeds even YouTube is stuttering.once it's on 60hz everything is smooth. Can't explain it.
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That's the second time I read about 60 Hz feeling smoother but for me it's just so much worse.
illyx said:
I recently upgraded my 5 II to a 5 III and although I still don't wanna believe it, it's getting pretty obvious that the phone throttles the FPS from 120 to 60 Hz. The Xperia 5 II only did this sometimes when you were charging and gaming simulatenously.
However with the 5 III it sometimes tends to throttle just when you are surfing through the net or using some apps. During gaming without charging it also throttles often.
That's the second time I read about 60 Hz feeling smoother but for me it's just so much worse.
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This could be an issue that will be fixed soon. Other than that, one of the best things to do if you're a gamer like me is to get a very good cooler.
teostar said:
I don't really play games but I noticed the overall UI seems smoother with high refresh rate off. Scrolling long feeds even YouTube is stuttering.once it's on 60hz everything is smooth. Can't explain it.
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Actually, this is a case of eye habit. If you used a device or monitor with a refresh rate above 60Hz before, when you use 60Hz again after a long time, it seems like it lags etc. But since you haven't used a panel above 60Hz so far, 60Hz seems very different to you.
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I recently upgraded my 5 II to a 5 III and although I still don't wanna believe it, it's getting pretty obvious that the phone throttles the FPS from 120 to 60 Hz. The Xperia 5 II only did this sometimes when you were charging and gaming simulatenously.
However with the 5 III it sometimes tends to throttle just when you are surfing through the net or using some apps. During gaming without charging it also throttles often.
That's the second time I read about 60 Hz feeling smoother but for me it's just so much worse.
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It's because the 5mk3's Snapdragon 888 generates far more heat than the 5mk2's Snapdragon 865.