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Any ROMs in development?

I've been searching high and low and I haven't seen any discussion on any ROMs being build for the Pixel. I know that CM14.1 is currently being developed, but I can't find the Pixel listed.
Are there any mods currently being developed? I would love to read on the progress. Any other information is appreciated.

Moogagot said:
I've been searching high and low and I haven't seen any discussion on any ROMs being build for the Pixel. I know that CM14.1 is currently being developed, but I can't find the Pixel listed.
Are there any mods currently being developed? I would love to read on the progress. Any other information is appreciated.
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What is available is pretty much in the development section Here
You won't likely see many ROMs until TWRP is further along in development. These phones have a different partition setup which is causing a delay while the devs work out how to handle it.

Adding the higher cost of the device and limited supply at launch it will take the devs a little longer to get a device in their hands

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You won't likely see many ROMs until TWRP is further along in development. These phones have a different partition setup which is causing a delay while the devs work out how to handle it.
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I was aware of the partition issues. I wasn't aware that TWRP wasn't fully operational yet.
I'll keep my eye out for TWRP news and expect more good news to follow

Developer of Pure Nexus is for sure working on a rom, not sure about others. I do expect it to be a great phone for custom roms?
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cyanogenmod also has pixel device tree and kernel on github, although they haven't rolled it out yet... I've built aosp for pixel, but stock Rom is much better.

milan187 said:
Developer of Pure Nexus is for sure working on a rom, not sure about others. I do expect it to be a great phone for custom roms?
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Maybe the dev will call it Nu Pixel or maybe Gnu Pixel. I would flash that ROM to gain cred of putting a Nu Pixel in my hands..
: only half joking :
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Why is that there is Hardly any content for pixel 2?

When I the I had nexus 5 there used to be loads of content in xda be it roms or mods. Now for the pixel 2 there is no custom rom to begin with. I understand the stock Google oreo is as good as ever but still the basic tweaks would add much more to it.
Is there any specific reason for this? May be Google's security is much complicated in oreo to implement changes in the stock rom?
I was just looking for dual speaker ring, status bar tweaks.

I hope to see more soon as well. Now that Verizon phones are on board for rooting there will probably be more devs getting their hands dirty.
Not to mention there are still only a few phones running Oreo. Right now it's just basically pixel owners. So all the mods made for other phones haven't been ported or upgraded.
I'll have this phone for the next two years I'm hoping there will be more with time.
I haven't even been able to get debian, Ubuntu, or Kali to work along side this phone yet. Proot and chroot don't seem to be working as they should. I tried 3 methods. Linux deploy, termux ,and using the nethunter module. Guess I'll just keep at it until New methods are found.

I assumed the Pixel line would just replace the Nexus line for modders. Sadly, that couldn't be further from the truth for either the Pixel 1 or 2. Which phone(s) have all the devs moved to?

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I assumed the Pixel line would just replace the Nexus line for modders. Sadly, that couldn't be further from the truth for either the Pixel 1 or 2. Which phone(s) have all the devs moved to?
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One plus because of the price
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Sman999 said:
Is there any specific reason for this? May be Google's security is much complicated in oreo to implement changes in the stock rom?
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The a/b bootloader partitions... No dedicated recovery.... Blah blah blah too much for me to understand but basically it's screwing with devs.

teh_lorax said:
I assumed the Pixel line would just replace the Nexus line for modders. Sadly, that couldn't be further from the truth for either the Pixel 1 or 2. Which phone(s) have all the devs moved to?
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I guess oneplus or Samsung. The later cuz the design is awesome but software experience is poor so if the software is improved it ll be awesome Samsung. ?

I wondered the same thing but then it dawned on me, I only rooted/ROM'd devices to run something that's a vanilla build of Android. That's what this is. There's a few nitpicky things that I would love to have but for the most part, I'm happy with it.

main reason for me is the PRICE.. if it was just priced same as the nexus 5, . thats why oneplus devices are being so favored

teh_lorax said:
I assumed the Pixel line would just replace the Nexus line for modders. Sadly, that couldn't be further from the truth for either the Pixel 1 or 2. Which phone(s) have all the devs moved to?
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pixel devices are no where near as easy to get roms on. Not only is the device tree clustered, but a b partitions, the trend of users demanding security, the expensive price of the device, the changes to the build process, and how Verizon royally made blobs more complicated contributed too.
I have brought up a few device tress before but I definitely had to debug the most for pixel 2. Theres an entire new flashing method and it doesn't help ramdisk is in system now.
Now after all that negativity, I can tell you I know of 4 roms actively working on roms. And two of them booting, including my shameless plug in p2xl forums of ABC Rom working with plenty of mods.
I'd say the good times are on their way, once one rom goes up more will pop up instantly.
Let's hope this helps start the domino effect.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pi...sp-tamien-8-1-opengapps-t3727948/post75108624

Surge1223 said:
pixel devices are no where near as easy to get roms on. Not only is the device tree clustered, but a b partitions, the trend of users demanding security, the expensive price of the device, the changes to the build process, and how Verizon royally made blobs more complicated contributed too.
I have brought up a few device tress before but I definitely had to debug the most for pixel 2. Theres an entire new flashing method and it doesn't help ramdisk is in system now.
Now after all that negativity, I can tell you I know of 4 roms actively working on roms. And two of them booting, including my shameless plug in p2xl forums of ABC Rom working with plenty of mods.
I'd say the good times are on their way, once one rom goes up more will pop up instantly.
Let's hope this helps start the domino effect.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pi...sp-tamien-8-1-opengapps-t3727948/post75108624
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Good to know you're busy helping us all with our crack flashing addiction. I can't wait for the goodies to start. Thank you and all the other devs. I've been waiting to unlock my bl because of lack of roms. Is bajasaur still in the game? I haven't really seen him since my note 3 days.

bmwh0r3 said:
Good to know you're busy helping us all with our crack flashing addiction. I can't wait for the goodies to start. Thank you and all the other devs. I've been waiting to unlock my bl because of lack of roms. Is bajasaur still in the game? I haven't really seen him since my note 3 days.
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Ironic you should ask..I helped him come back to the game today you could say lol

[Dumb question] List of OnePlus 6 Custom ROM/camera projects?

I apologize in advance if this is breaking rules begging for updates, I don't want to do that. I just want to know if my understanding of the situation is correct; I've never flashed a custom ROM before. At a high level, my current understanding is:
1. AOSP camera works in Custom ROMs but are not very good, because there is a lot of proprietary stuff in cameras that manufacturers put in. It is hard to get blobs working well on custom ROMs because source code is unlikely to be released.
2. Historically, XDA contributors, after a lot of work, were able to get OnePlus 3/3T camera blobs from OxygenOS working about as well on custom ROMs as on OxygenOS. I'm not sure if this is true for the 5/5T. I don't know if this tells us anything about the OnePlus 6 or not.
3. XDA contributors are currently looking at porting Google Cam to the OnePlus 6, which might be even better than stock, but might never work well. Work by developers here is ongoing. (Do historic GCam ports work on custom ROMs?)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/themes/oneplus-6-google-camera-port-t3797544
My question is: Is this all the known relevant information, as of right now? Are there other camera projects I should be following?
Thank you!

BeakerBen said:
I apologize in advance if this is breaking rules begging for updates, I don't want to do that. I just want to know if my understanding of the situation is correct; I've never flashed a custom ROM before. At a high level, my current understanding is:
1. AOSP camera works in Custom ROMs but are not very good, because there is a lot of proprietary stuff in cameras that manufacturers put in. It is hard to get blobs working well on custom ROMs because source code is unlikely to be released.
2. Historically, XDA contributors, after a lot of work, were able to get OnePlus 3/3T camera blobs from OxygenOS working about as well on custom ROMs as on OxygenOS. I'm not sure if this is true for the 5/5T. I don't know if this tells us anything about the OnePlus 6 or not.
3. XDA contributors are currently looking at porting Google Cam to the OnePlus 6, which might be even better than stock, but might never work well. Work by developers here is ongoing. (Do historic GCam ports work on custom ROMs?)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/themes/oneplus-6-google-camera-port-t3797544
My question is: Is this all the known relevant information, as of right now? Are there other camera projects I should be following?
Thank you!
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It's all known. Google has made their camera software public for a while now. A very capable developer who has developed a working gcam for other devices will be receiving a op6 from op so development will continue for the gcam for the 6. It will take some more time for a stable version to be released.

looking for interested devs

Hoping this is the right section since its not device specific.
Experienced or not, it doesn't matter. I've been on XDA for a number of years. And am noticing things from my own experience and talking to others. Its hard to get help sometimes. Not all devs want to talk. Teach. Or help people all the time. Devices are being dropped from support. Maintainers are leaving the scene. Currently I have an Oreo and pie ROM for s6e+ and note 5. With the list of devices being dropped, and surprising amount of people reaching out to me for support, I decided it may be beneficial to recruit a few people who want to develop ROMs. This is a great chance to learn. I would like to pick up at least partial support for several more devices, and need some help to do it. My goal in this endeavor is to continue to provide ROMs to people who need them, while teaching other users to develop. This will help to bring fresh life to the scene, and allow support for more devices to be added. If you are interested reply below or inbox me. There is a google hangouts set up, and other methods of team communication will follow. I also have a home server with a 24/7 connection and no data limits on my internet, and an ftp set up to host files directly and not need third party sites.

so basically you have good intentions, no plan and a home server )
what we really need is a unification of all the different but not really different roms and their devs,
then its possible to see a future for long term support for all devices, or at least many.
anyhting else is jsut another project that will or will not die, based on good will and free time of the maintainer, mostly not even reckognized
due to the chaos of fragmented android and even more fragmented custom rom scene.

godkingofcanada said:
Hoping this is the right section since its not device specific.
Experienced or not, it doesn't matter. I've been on XDA for a number of years. And am noticing things from my own experience and talking to others. Its hard to get help sometimes. Not all devs want to talk. Teach. Or help people all the time. Devices are being dropped from support. Maintainers are leaving the scene. Currently I have an Oreo and pie ROM for s6e+ and note 5. With the list of devices being dropped, and surprising amount of people reaching out to me for support, I decided it may be beneficial to recruit a few people who want to develop ROMs. This is a great chance to learn. I would like to pick up at least partial support for several more devices, and need some help to do it. My goal in this endeavor is to continue to provide ROMs to people who need them, while teaching other users to develop. This will help to bring fresh life to the scene, and allow support for more devices to be added. If you are interested reply below or inbox me. There is a google hangouts set up, and other methods of team communication will follow. I also have a home server with a 24/7 connection and no data limits on my internet, and an ftp set up to host files directly and not need third party sites.
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I respect your Idea but I don't think something like this is required.You see I had been using linux for 4+ years and was pretty adapted to it when I switched to a Note 3.Recently I discovered the Modding part of it and the huge development of custom roms and kernels.and despite having no clue what I was doing I could easily develop a Kernel without a hassle.I went even one step further and made a halium port for it.Sure it didn't boot the first time but by using methods on xda already discussed in detail I was able to make it work.So,the main thing is that someone like me who has no experience could make a ROM in 3 hours without any complications(Except those who could be solved by googling).Then anybody could do it.Currently there isn't a ROM bug or a issue that hasn't been discussed on either xda or other android development sites.But that doesn't mean we shouldn't help newcomers.But it is rare for someone to look on the other side of development and there is enough documentations for him to do it.Maybe too much.qq
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Atifbaig786 said:
I respect your Idea but I don't think something like this is required.You see I had been using linux for 4+ years and was pretty adapted to it when I switched to a Note 3.Recently I discovered the Modding part of it and the huge development of custom roms and kernels.and despite having no clue what I was doing I could easily develop a Kernel without a hassle.I went even one step further and made a halium port for it.Sure it didn't boot the first time but by using methods on xda already discussed in detail I was able to make it work.So,the main thing is that someone like me who has no experience could make a ROM in 3 hours without any complications(Except those who could be solved by googling).Then anybody could do it.Currently there isn't a ROM bug or a issue that hasn't been discussed on either xda or other android development sites.But that doesn't mean we shouldn't help newcomers.But it is rare for someone to look on the other side of development and there is enough documentations for him to do it.Maybe too much.qq
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You can't just make a ROM for any device is 3 hours. It doesn't always work that way. Especially not if building from source

godkingofcanada said:
You can't just make a ROM for any device is 3 hours. It doesn't always work that way. Especially not if building from source
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I just followed a guide.On an XL VPS. With maybe 22GB ram and 16 xeon cores
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Atifbaig786 said:
I just followed a guide.On an XL VPS. With maybe 22GB ram and 16 xeon cores
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I don't disagree sometimes it is easy. But what if lineage or GitHub don't have all necessary files for the build? And then you need to extract them from your phone manually, or if build won't boot up and needs modifications to the kernel.. fixing drivers that do not work. It's not always so simple as build, flash and finish.

godkingofcanada said:
I don't disagree sometimes it is easy. But what if lineage or GitHub don't have all necessary files for the build? And then you need to extract them from your phone manually, or if build won't boot up and needs modifications to the kernel.. fixing drivers that do not work. It's not always so simple as build, flash and finish.
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I did face issues.The End of the guide covered the basics of logging stuff and finding things.They were just as same as debugging a linux OS but yeah you're right as I did face the extracting files(dunno what was supposed to do).So I wrote "extract proprietary vendor code from ROM" and boom lineage gave it to me.Also the guide was only for devices that exist on lineage and sometimes we need to start from scratch.And maybe We both are,Who knows what the future might bring,BTW have you heard about Google's new Boy Fuchisa or something like that.I wanted to talk someone in the field of development about this but nobody was bringing up the non-linux version of Google's OS for smartphones.
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Atifbaig786 said:
I did face issues.The End of the guide covered the basics of logging stuff and finding things.They were just as same as debugging a linux OS but yeah you're right as I did face the extracting files(dunno what was supposed to do).So I wrote "extract proprietary vendor code from ROM" and boom lineage gave it to me.Also the guide was only for devices that exist on lineage and sometimes we need to start from scratch.And maybe We both are,Who knows what the future might bring,BTW have you heard about Google's new Boy Fuchisa or something like that.I wanted to talk someone in the field of development about this but nobody was bringing up the non-linux version of Google's OS for smartphones.
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Yes I heard about it. I stumbled across it by accident looking for a way to shim the s6 edge plus cam on my pie rom. It lead me to reading about vulkan, which showed me a new Google os. It looks nice

godkingofcanada said:
Yes I heard about it. I stumbled across it by accident looking for a way to shim the s6 edge plus cam on my pie rom. It lead me to reading about vulkan, which showed me a new Google os. It looks nice
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Well It seems that it uses a Different type of kernel "microkernel".For someone as stupid as me I don't get it what was the difference between a microkernel and monolithic one on an android device(or a low powered arm processor based board that has a screen attached to it)Will it be performance,Faster loading,Efficiency.I can find a million articles on microkernel vs monolithic but they are in latin for me.But you can just give me the crash course in maybe 3-4 lines.
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Atifbaig786 said:
Well It seems that it uses a Different type of kernel "microkernel".For someone as stupid as me I don't get it what was the difference between a microkernel and monolithic one on an android device(or a low powered arm processor based board that has a screen attached to it)Will it be performance,Faster loading,Efficiency.I can find a million articles on microkernel vs monolithic but they are in latin for me.But you can just give me the crash course in maybe 3-4 lines.
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Device drivers, protocol, file systems moved from kernel to user. It's got less code, more lightweight. And it was created with embedded systems in mind. In theory it should be faster, and more suited to small devices like phones with embedded systems. Giving devices their own dedicated kernel finally instead of butchering a Linux kernel to suit their device needs. It's also universal in terms of cross platform

godkingofcanada said:
Device drivers, protocol, file systems moved from kernel to user. It's got less code, more lightweight. And it was created with embedded systems in mind. In theory it should be faster, and more suited to small devices like phones with embedded systems. Giving devices their own dedicated kernel finally instead of butchering a Linux kernel to suit their device needs. It's also universal in terms of cross platform
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Now that's more like it.I was afraid that android was finally going to commit close source(or suicicde).But since it's open source and I hear good things from you and 4 other guys who have experience in doing stuff I think,Hope and Pray that it might be a good change.Also thanks for using plain English and being a Open guy.Currently I am thinking that 5 years from now someone gonna run into this post and have a little smirk on his face for you who is reading this,Quote and tell me was it good?Was we good?
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Atifbaig786 said:
Now that's more like it.I was afraid that android was finally going to commit close source(or suicicde).But since it's open source and I hear good things from you and 4 other guys who have experience in doing stuff I think,Hope and Pray that it might be a good change.Also thanks for using plain English and being a Open guy.Currently I am thinking that 5 years from now someone gonna run into this post and have a little smirk on his face for you who is reading this,Quote and tell me was it good?Was we good?
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I think the changes appear good. Less stuff locked away in private, more easily accessible to all. Treble has the vendor stuff available to roms that aren't stock, this will make the kernel tiny and easy to build. One by one the barriers people have to overcome to build their own roms are being taken away.

After nearly three years Still No Custom roms

I wonder why after roughly 3 years Still no one showing interest in developing a custom rom for our first grade phone? Before they claimed that it is on pause because no has the kernel source code, but now we have access to the official source code and yet no one developed a brand new custom rom for Nokia phone.
Please if anyone could help write a comment below.

to be honest, at this point i simply dont care whatever is happening in this community. If you have knowledge of building a custom rom then why not giving it a go?
i simply dont possess the knowledge at the same time i am also not complaining.

Ok, so first: Nokia 8 launched in September 2017. According to my calculator, thats roughly one and a half year since it came out. Not three.
Then, regarding kernel sources: The official kernel sources for our phone are from the Oreo 8.0 release. It's possible to use older kernels for newer ROMs, but it is really not recommended. And I am not even speaking of the fact that those official kernel sources still require edits to even work. There is no support from Nokia / HMD for development on this phone. Even their unlocker app doesn't work on the majority of versions and completely broke after 2 security patches.
I would be suprised if you can find any developer who is willing to spend their time fighting the stuff that gets thrown between our feet. (broken kernel source, not being able to temporary boot images and having to flash them instead, no working kernel sources from hmd, no reliable bootloader unlock, no official rescue tool etc. etc.) And usually, developers make things because their either need them themselves, or for the joy of creating something and sharing it with people who appreciate it. And when you can port a ROM, you can make the edits you want for yourself with Magisk, so reason 1 is already not applicable.
And as hard as it might sound, this community is by no means large enough to justify porting a ROM you dont need and risking your device stability / userdata in the process.
So the TL;DR; is probably: Either do it yourself, or expect it to never actually happen, as harsh as it sounds, sadly.

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Ok, so first: Nokia 8 launched in September 2017. According to my calculator, thats roughly one and a half year since it came out. Not three.
Then, regarding kernel sources: The official kernel sources for our phone are from the Oreo 8.0 release. It's possible to use older kernels for newer ROMs, but it is really not recommended. And I am not even speaking of the fact that those official kernel sources still require edits to even work. There is no support from Nokia / HMD for development on this phone. Even their unlocker app doesn't work on the majority of versions and completely broke after 2 security patches.
I would be suprised if you can find any developer who is willing to spend their time fighting the stuff that gets thrown between our feet. (broken kernel source, not being able to temporary boot images and having to flash them instead, no working kernel sources from hmd, no reliable bootloader unlock, no official rescue tool etc. etc.) And usually, developers make things because their either need them themselves, or for the joy of creating something and sharing it with people who appreciate it. And when you can port a ROM, you can make the edits you want for yourself with Magisk, so reason 1 is already not applicable.
And as hard as it might sound, this community is by no means large enough to justify porting a ROM you dont need and risking your device stability / userdata in the process.
So the TL;DR; is probably: Either do it yourself, or expect it to never actually happen, as harsh as it sounds, sadly.
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I can't agree with you more, I was just wondered how this newly released phone still has no custom rom while my LG G3 still after those years received many from lots of developers.
So sad to see our beloved NOKIA has no juice to compete in this race.

error748 said:
I can't agree with you more, I was just wondered how this newly released phone still has no custom rom while my LG G3 still after those years received many from lots of developers.
So sad to see our beloved NOKIA has no juice to compete in this race.
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We all found out the hard way what Nokia was about by being early adopters. To me they are only interested in pushing their next device and Android One is making that easier for them. So much so the 8 is long since off their radar. It was an 'OK' phone for the money, but there's better now and it's them I'll be looking to this year.

At this point its best to just modify the current stock rom yourself by debloating it, installing kernel tweking modules via magisk, installing themes via substratum and customizing the interface using GravityBox and Xposed Edge. Thats the closest we will come to having a custom rom experience. Ive accepted that no developer will bother with this phone given all the devices that have come out since its release.
Its a lesson learnt. I love this phone but I will never buy another Nokia phone ever again. Im currently saving up for a Xiaomi phone and will use this Nokia 8 as a secondary phone in due time.

MDV106 said:
At this point its best to just modify the current stock rom yourself by debloating it, installing kernel tweking modules via magisk, installing themes via substratum and customizing the interface using GravityBox and Xposed Edge. Thats the closest we will come to having a custom rom experience. Ive accepted that no developer will bother with this phone given all the devices that have come out since its release.
Its a lesson learnt. I love this phone but I will never buy another Nokia phone ever again. Im currently saving up for a Xiaomi phone and will use this Nokia 8 as a secondary phone in due time.
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Poco or 1+ here

MDV106 said:
At this point its best to just modify the current stock rom yourself by debloating it, installing kernel tweking modules via magisk, installing themes via substratum and customizing the interface using GravityBox and Xposed Edge. Thats the closest we will come to having a custom rom experience. Ive accepted that no developer will bother with this phone given all the devices that have come out since its release.
Its a lesson learnt. I love this phone but I will never buy another Nokia phone ever again. Im currently saving up for a Xiaomi phone and will use this Nokia 8 as a secondary phone in due time.
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Me too, my next phone would be OnePlus 6T or Oppo.
Never ever ever go around nokia phones again