Best sub-$300 phone for GCAM + nightsight/astrophotography mode? - General Questions and Answers

Hi all,
So I've done quite a bit of research on this, and wasn't able to find anything on Google. Basically, I already have a pretty decent main phone, but I want to get a "budget" type second phone purely for Astrophotography using GCAM. Now, I've been told Xiaomi phones and Pocophones work well with GCAM, but I wanted to see if there are any other alternatives out there that work better. My current choices are Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro, Xiaomi Redmi 9S, Pocophone F1, and the Razer Blade 2. Can anyone with a lot of experience with GCAM and/or astrophotography on some of these phones chime in and provide some information?
Requesting info. on following topics (as an example)
1) - How well Astrophotography mode works on the specific phone
2) - Is there any noise in the picture?
3) - Are there any color temperature issues?
In terms of picture "quality", I generally don't care about color temperature, but I do absolutely hate noise / grain. I think it's due to the way my Huawei P30 Pro processes night time pics to be smooth / bright / and without noise/grain.
Thanks in advance

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Advice on Pixel 2 or Huawei P20

Hello,
In my country I can get the Pixel2 and Huawei P20 at around the same price, P20 being a bit cheaper, depending on the deals.
Now I am aware that Pixel 2 is an older device but it has it's pros.
What I like and dislike about p20:
+ lcd screen without Pulse With Modulation
+ modern design
+ dual cameras
+ fingerprint scanner on the front, making easier to unlock when on my desk
+ fingerprint scanner gestures which allows disabling the nav bar
+ software with customization
- notch, but from what I've read it can be disabled easily
- no stereo
- back glass which can be broken and is slippery
- updates my come slow
What I like and dislike about Pixel2
+ another almost 2 years of updates
+ metal back
+ stereo speakers
- amoled with PWM
- design
Usually reviews tend to be for the P20 Pro, especially long term ones so the P20 is a bit shadowed by it. I do not root or use custom roms. I do like to read on the phone, that is why no PWM comes as an advantage. I also need it to take great pictures without too much config. So if anyone owned P20, can share the downsides compared with Pixel 2? How are the cameras in comparison ? Are there any downsides of Pixel 2 in terms of hardware issues?
Thank you for your time.
Pixel 2, no contest. P20 may be a better device on paper, but it can't stand a chance next to the Pixel 2. My colleague has one, and we've compared the cameras, the Pixel 2 beats P20 in every shot (except maybe zoom on some occasions).
Software wise, ugh. EMUI on the P20 is just garbage and feels like Android KitKat and iOS 7 had a baby. Just no.
So from me, get yourself a Pixel 2 and enjoy.
I love my Pixel 2. I only wish it got some better battery life. It's actually the best size for me. I don't mind the bezel because of the dual stereo speakers.
Thank you very much for your answers.
I use the Pixel 2, owned the p20 for a few months.
It is a tough call, but i would go for the pixel again no question about it. But it depends on what you value more.
The camera on the pixel us much more reliable always good shots . software experience much better. I use gestures on the Pixel ( Fluid NG app).
For me the P20 was better on battery and screen size.the fingerprint gestures are great as well. The speakers better on the pixel of course.
@icstrim1 you mention that the camera on pixel is more reliable, does this mean that on P20 you got bad pictures some times? Or does the P20 require more adjustments before taking a picture? Also the software isn't more customizable that the one on pixel?
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@icstrim1 you mention that the camera on pixel is more reliable, does this mean that on P20 you got bad pictures some times? Or does the P20 require more adjustments before taking a picture? Also the software isn't more customizable that the one on pixel?
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On the auto mode with Huawei i got bad pictures sometimes, oversharpens a lot especially in rock walls or buildings. Also folliage backround detail looks more realistic on the Pixel.
I couldn't get rid of the oversharpening on the Huawei, there seem to be no real cure for auto mode.
If you take photos of children or landscape, the Pixel is a better choice in my view.
I prefer the clean Android, much smoother , almost addictive. But emui is not too bad.
Thank you o much @icstrim1, very helpful information.
One last question, the P20 has a screen without Pulse With Modulation, while the Pixel's amoled has around 245Hz PWM. Do you notice any eye strain/tiredness or other issues on the pixel's screen vs P20?
Thank you again for your time
You are welcome.
I actually like the oled more, no issues with eye strain.
Let me know if you have other questions.

Pocofone f1, Mi8 or Mi9T (redmi k20), what should i buy?

Hi everyone! I want to buy a new phone and I'm in for these 3. I'm a moderate user, focused mostly on YouTube and Netflix, some games (arena of valor mostly), and general Web use. I want a good screen, good battery life and decent performance. Mi8 don't have a headphone jack, but have a AMOLED display. I don't know about the quality of pocophone screen, and the Mi9T screen seems to be so gorgeus. Anyway, what you can tell about this three, especially for videos and games?
Get the poco add me on aov my name is GRAZED
Mate, go to a store, look at the phones your interested in and make a decision...
Each persons view is unique and what sells me a phone may be unimportant to you... You will probably find people here are a little biased towards the Pocophone. If you go to those other phone forums you will probably get most people saying to get their phone as they will be biased there, and most people won't downtalk their product (unless it's REALLY bad) due to the fact we like to think our product/advice is best...
There is a myriad of videos on youtube extolling the virtues/problems with each phone...
In the end it comes down to you...
lets reverse the analysis
why you should not buy Mi8 (over Pocof1)
- it has similar soc
- no 3.5mm jack
- no expandable storage
- lower battery
- same big notch like pocof1
why you should not buy mi9
- where its SD855 & larger Screen to Pocoft & Mi8.... the battery is even smaller than Mi8
- No 3.5mm jack &
-no expandable storage
- the chipset has broken in to more complex setup where 2.4ghz x1 single and rest stays on lower end unless required, perhaps this way mi9 is saving batter
- poco f1 &mi8 chips set is gold/sliver plated but mi9 specs on gsmarena doesn't mention any such
now why you should buy POCO f1 in 2019..?
- other MI successors are usually missing headfone jack and expandable storage (this is v imp for me / i don't know about u )
- with a few niptuck differences on mi8 / mi9 you will pay more on these devices where Poco f1 is relatively cheaper now.
- soon 5g devices will be out THEN it makes more sense to upgrade and if you buy Mi8/mi9 .. they both are 4g devices only then you will left with no choice to force upgrade yourself! , so its better to buy Poco f1 on cheaper prices NOW so that by next 6-9 months when market is saturated with 5g devices you can easily upgrade.
another angle for pocof1
- local shops have many accessories and you will able to find covers/wallets/protectors etc (poco f1 screen protector is same as Iphone XR ) ( my poco has Iphone XR 9h strong screen protector, fits 99% accurately!
- POCO F1 is Very popular device (after Redmi Note5 / 5+ / 5pro) and XDA has so much on Pocof1 already, many rom, methods, easy to root tips! where for Mi8/mi9 you will have to wait many weeks for developers to release stable roms! ,,
i always check these things before buying any device(s)
dont buy anything from xiaomi see damn freeze thread and youll see the pain if you got corrupt xiaomi device like ****y poco
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Hi everyone! I want to buy a new phone and I'm in for these 3. I'm a moderate user, focused mostly on YouTube and Netflix, some games (arena of valor mostly), and general Web use. I want a good screen, good battery life and decent performance. Mi8 don't have a headphone jack, but have a AMOLED display. I don't know about the quality of pocophone screen, and the Mi9T screen seems to be so gorgeus. Anyway, what you can tell about this three, especially for videos and games?
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i have used mi 9t, mi8 and poco and i can say mi 9t is the better option overall. Especially with with your use, there are no reasons to buy mi8 or poco, because arena of valor run smoothly on mi 9t and is the better option to play it thanks to the gorgeous display it has
Mi 9T Pro
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Mi 9T Pro
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This
There is no reason buying MI 9T if its not PRO. Poco and MI 8 actually the same but MI8 is a flagship and gives better experience using of it... but at the same time it has lower battery capacity. Im using Poco F1 for 7 months for now and thats the best phone i've ever used just because of SD845. So i definately recommend it.
I have the Pocophone F1 and I would say it is a decent phone.
I'm gonna say between Poco F1, Mi 8 and Mi 9t, there's not much difference. But i'll try to look at the best feature in them.
Mi 8? It has the Super AMOLED, corning glass 5, HDR10 screen, best screen. Great camera (+telephoto, OIS), sufficient enough. SD845 Adreno 630 on par with Poco F1.
Mi 9T? The latest device. AMOLED, corning glass 5 screen. Camera is supposed to be the best. 48MP (+telephoto, ultrawide), under display fingerprint (if you like that, idk for me). Headphone jack. USB OTG is there to compensate for the less expandable storage. 18w 4000 mAh battery.
Poco F1? SD845. Expandable storage, headphone jack, stereo speakers, USB OTG, 18w 4000mAh (QC 3.0) battery. The lowest cost among these three, or probably the same cost as Mi 9T (depends on your country, idk)
Of course there's pros and cons between them. And I saw a lot of pros in Mi 9T that actually makes me eager to get it (if only I hadn't buy Poco) Anyway choose one that fits you.
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dont buy anything from xiaomi see damn freeze thread and youll see the pain if you got corrupt xiaomi device like ****y poco
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my poco works perfect? might be some of your apps making device hang..
you need to explain what's installed and which rom you are using? even Miui10 which build? ( Stable (china/global) / developer (china/global) ) (rooted /nonrooted?) etc
Don't believe any positive comments about poco here. Poco is one of the ****ty device i have ever seen. It has famous touch issue that's still not solved and can't be solved through software updates. Camera is below avg. Phone hits up when its a plastic body. Durability is bad. Software updates are bad. Only battery backup is good because of it's large battery capacity.
Have my poco since it was out, am very pleased with it, no problems what so ever. Will trade it up for mi9t pro once it is released.
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Mate, go to a store, look at the phones your interested in and make a decision...
Each persons view is unique and what sells me a phone may be unimportant to you... You will probably find people here are a little biased towards the Pocophone. If you go to those other phone forums you will probably get most people saying to get their phone as they will be biased there, and most people won't downtalk their product (unless it's REALLY bad) due to the fact we like to think our product/advice is best...
There is a myriad of videos on youtube extolling the virtues/problems with each phone...
In the end it comes down to you...
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Well said. And sound advice.
Nfury00701 said:
Don't believe any positive comments about poco here. Poco is one of the ****ty device i have ever seen. It has famous touch issue that's still not solved and can't be solved through software updates. Camera is below avg. Phone hits up when its a plastic body. Durability is bad. Software updates are bad. Only battery backup is good because of it's large battery capacity.
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I am fine with my POCO so far!
Keep in MIND that POCO is NOT flagship device ! and like any other high mid range android devices it has pros and cons! but you are highlighting CONS only! ?
-POCO is highly managable and xda has many roms/mods! since i am using my Poco on HAVOC I don't have hanging problem but I had used poco on MIUI initialy and It was fine too!
- camera is OK, the highlight of this fone was never camera, infact the camera is better than many midrange Xiaomi Phones
- All phones heats up! but the good part is , on havoc , even the phone feels hot on touch! it never hangs!
- yes i have noticed touch problems BUT on Franco/Twisted loop kernels because they had been changing kernel drivers , and even on franco, the touch problem is rare and if you switch on / off screen, it fixes it self! however if I use any other kernel, it stays just fine!
I have adjusted myself to many devices because of their limitations! but poco is so far best device that i have able to customized according to my wishes
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I am fine with my POCO so far!
Keep in MIND that POCO is NOT flagship device ! and like any other high mid range android devices it has pros and cons! but you are highlighting CONS only! ?
-POCO is highly managable and xda has many roms/mods! since i am using my Poco on HAVOC I don't have hanging problem but I had used poco on MIUI initialy and It was fine too!
- camera is OK, the highlight of this fone was never camera, infact the camera is better than many midrange Xiaomi Phones
- All phones heats up! but the good part is , on havoc , even the phone feels hot on touch! it never hangs!
- yes i have noticed touch problems BUT on Franco/Twisted loop kernels because they had been changing kernel drivers , and even on franco, the touch problem is rare and if you switch on / off screen, it fixes it self! however if I use any other kernel, it stays just fine!
I have adjusted myself to many devices because of their limitations! but poco is so far best device that i have able to customized according to my wishes
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you are forgetting the main thing. we have no enough time for unlocking bootloader, flashing rom, modification etc etc. we are giving our hard money to Xiaomi not xda devs. xda devs are best in all way. we want the best in stock like OnePlus did.
all of us don't know how to flash roms and not even interested. we got poor lcd panel and they should admit that. instead of it we are being told to remove screen guard to solve touch issue. this is bulls*** man.
poco isn't flagship but not even close to flagship killer dude.
look because u watch netflix get mi9T global verison because its support widvine L1 and it will support HD playback i am useing pocophone f1 even after they add the widevine support its doesn't play hd so i think it should be on the phone from the factory to work and mi 9 also has the same support with better soc but less battery so choose between thoes 2 forget about pocophone the screen not good with video playback
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you are forgetting the main thing. we have no enough time for unlocking bootloader, flashing rom, modification etc etc. we are giving our hard money to Xiaomi not xda devs. xda devs are best in all way. we want the best in stock like OnePlus did.
all of us don't know how to flash roms and not even interested. we got poor lcd panel and they should admit that. instead of it we are being told to remove screen guard to solve touch issue. this is bulls*** man.
poco isn't flagship but not even close to flagship killer dude.
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who are "WE" who don't have time?
-the fact you bieng on xda/replying/reading and answering makes you expert on this topic already !
-also predominantely if you don't like MIUI then POCO is not your only problem! then you should try ANdroid one devices like oneplus (oxygen is pretymuch stock android) and / or Nokias
- as i said! POCO is NOT flagship and and their lcd panel is SAME same same as Note5pro!! however i never face touch problems! of any kind!!!!!! used miui 10 on my waiting period and it was just perfect! perhaps you got a faulty device ORRRRRR Xaiomi made a Special POCO for me
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TLDR: Buy the Mi 9T, don't even wait for the Pro version. You won't miss anything on the Pro given your declared use-cases, all of those that you mentioned you can do on the 9T + more money for you because it's significantly cheaper.
Here are the things I noticed about the Mi 9T:
1. As we all know, the build and the cooling system of the Mi9T-series were spec'd to deal with SD855 high-performance SoC which is and certainly an overkill for the SD730.
2. As explained in #1, what you would get is significantly higher run-time for the performance cores + GPU on full load (max clocks) when you have a lower TDP SD730 SoC.
3. SD730 also sips power at full load and is overall having lower power consumption (then the Pro) which also converts to longer run time per single full charge.
Remember that you have a phone with passive cooling which could always be saturated especially during summer. The question is that for how long before saturation? Simple, SD730 would take longer time to saturate a cooling system designed for SD855, that's it. I always notice people getting disappointed gaming on a phone with SD845 (for example) and got mad because it could easily throttle at FULL LOAD, where is the liquid cooling? What the cooling system is doing? My answer would be: With great power comes faster passive-cooling saturation.
Forget Mi8, very small battery for gaming, lowest runtime of the 3.
Forget Poco, it's overkill for your use-cases (SoC-wise) and it's camera is dated and offers less utility as compared to the cameras of the Mi9T.
Buy the Mi9T, it's best for the price and the use-cases you have stated. I also has the overall highest battery run-time of the 3.
Oh, the Mi9T Pro? Forget it, just buy a Mi9T with the biggest storage space and call it a day.
I am using a POCO F1 since September 2018. It had its own set of problems like screen touch issues etc.
Right now you should go with Mi9T because:
1. Better Screen. Poco screen is **** literally. If you dont bother about touch issues, even then the poco's display is very average.
2. SD730 is more than enough for a 1080p screen. Although Sd845 is stronger on paper, you wont make out much difference in performance unless you are into heavy gaming.
3. Design.. Poco's design sucks literally.
4. You get better camera, same battery but more power efficient chipset leading to a longer battery life.
5. Mi9T loudspeaker is louder than poco's speaker.( Poco's secondary speaker is barely audible and just for the surround effect)
6. Mi9T will get updates longer.
Poco will have less resale value now.
Unless you are into gaming, avoid poco f1. But beware that none of these will play Netflix in HD.
However if you can wait a bit and willing to spend extra, get the pro version.will be worth it.

NBA: Realme 5 Pro or Redmi Note 8 Pro

Hi all,
I am thinking of buying a new Smartphone. In my country Realme 5 Pro 8GB/128GB and Redmi Note 8 Pro 6GB/128GB are similarly priced. I am really really confused between these two.
Which one should I pick?
You expert opinions are required.
Thanks in advance.
No-one yet?
I am more inclined towards Realme 5 Pro basically due to SD712, Sony Camera Sensor and 8GB Ram Variant.
Currently I am using Realme 3. I don't like Color OS and Camera App. But I have heard that Realme will be providing its own UI with stock like experience. Is it true? And is there any changes in Stock Camera App expected?
Well that's a tough decision. I just bought RM5P 8/128 GB. Have used Xiaomi for about 4+ years and was happy with performance and software. Xiaomi provides lot of power packed software feature and highly customizable UI. But having used for more than 4 years, I was bored with MIUI, so I thought of switching to something relatable.
After I got my hands on RM5P, I was disappointed with the software and less customizable UI, but man, I have no words for the performance and camera. I am glad I made a good decision switching to this as this one has power packed hardware features which no brand has given in this price range. Hopefully, the software will be improved progressively.
My advice: If you have never used Xiaomi, go for Redmi Note 8 pro. Else go for RM5P. You will be happy with both.
Currently using Realme 5 pro(6GB Variant). To be honest, Redmi Note 8 pro looks more premium with its glass back. Realme 5 pro does look somewhat premium but nowhere close to Redmi Note 8 pro. The Redmi has a faster CPU and GPU but I heard some issues with overheating( and I don't have faith in Mediatek). In the realme, I have not encountered any overheatiing isues till now. But playing PUBG for longer periods makes the phone a little bit warm which is completely normal. If you want a phone for heavy gaming go with POCO F1, this phone is way better in terms of performance but looks kinda outdated( I regret not buying it). If you want a premium feeling device go for Redmi Note 8 Pro & if you want a overall better device go for Realme 5 pro.
Thanks, and what about Camera performance?
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Currently using Realme 5 pro(6GB Variant). To be honest, Redmi Note 8 pro looks more premium with its glass back. Realme 5 pro does look somewhat premium but nowhere close to Redmi Note 8 pro. The Redmi has a faster CPU and GPU but I heard some issues with overheating( and I don't have faith in Mediatek). In the realme, I have not encountered any overheatiing isues till now. But playing PUBG for longer periods makes the phone a little bit warm which is completely normal. If you want a phone for heavy gaming go with POCO F1, this phone is way better in terms of performance but looks kinda outdated( I regret not buying it). If you want a premium feeling device go for Redmi Note 8 Pro & if you want a overall better device go for Realme 5 pro.
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vinitsorte said:
Well that's a tough decision. I just bought RM5P 8/128 GB. Have used Xiaomi for about 4+ years and was happy with performance and software. Xiaomi provides lot of power packed software feature and highly customizable UI. But having used for more than 4 years, I was bored with MIUI, so I thought of switching to something relatable.
After I got my hands on RM5P, I was disappointed with the software and less customizable UI, but man, I have no words for the performance and camera. I am glad I made a good decision switching to this as this one has power packed hardware features which no brand has given in this price range. Hopefully, the software will be improved progressively.
My advice: If you have never used Xiaomi, go for Redmi Note 8 pro. Else go for RM5P. You will be happy with both.
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I Have used Redmi Note 4 a very long time ago and I don't really hate MIUI that much. Color Os is totally on other level of crap.
waqar bukhari said:
I Have used Redmi Note 4 a very long time ago and I don't really hate MIUI that much. Color Os is totally on other level of crap.
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I agree, MIUI is a little better than ColorOS except the ads.
Wolverinedd2 said:
I agree, MIUI is a little better than ColorOS except the ads.
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I don't think there are any ads in my country. And There is an option to turn off the ads as well.
waqar bukhari said:
I don't think there are any ads in my country. And There is an option to turn off the ads as well.
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Then MIUI is definitely better but would you prefer it over stock android?
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waqar bukhari said:
Thanks, and what about Camera performance?
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Realme 5 pro has very capable cameras but the 48MP images doesn't look that sharp. Normal 12MP is better( I think).
Don't know about the note!!
waqar bukhari said:
Hi all,
I am thinking of buying a new Smartphone. In my country Realme 5 Pro 8GB/128GB and Redmi Note 8 Pro 6GB/128GB are similarly priced. I am really really confused between these two.
Which one should I pick?
You expert opinions are required.
Thanks in advance.
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I just bought Realme 5 Pro 4/128 variant after (and still) owning Realme 3 Pro 6/128. I have considered Redmi Note 8 Pro before buying, but at the end I chose Realme. Here is why:
- Photography is the most important factor for me, thus I was looking for a phone with Qualcomm SOC because it will have Gcam mod for it. But then I saw on youtube lately that gcam mod also has been made available for RN8 Pro with mediatek chipset, but unfortunately the stock camera is still better than the Gcam on that phone. In case you don't know, the right Gcam variant with the right settings on Realme 3/5 Pro is amazing. I have compared it with my friend's Galaxy S9 and S10 and it put them both to shame when you examine the detail side by side at 1:1 zoom. Gcam on realme even manage to equal or beat my mirrorless M4/3 panasonic gx85!
- I read that RN8 Pro has touchscreen issues that still has not been fixed till now.
For me, ColorOS is ok. It has very aggressive RAM / battery management that often closing running apps eventhough there is still plenty of available RAM. So I just turned off the power saving feature (called 'Smart Power Saver') and use 'custom power saver' that allows you to set background running permission individually for each of your apps that you know shouldn't be close automatically like gps sport tracking app in my case. In app management setting screen you can also specify that certain apps are allowed to do auto start. You can also locked the app in the recent app screen so that it won't be closed. Unfortunately that setting is not persistent and only work until the next restart.
I'd never prefer an mtk powered device over an SD one. Just look at rm8p xda development forum and here. Words are quite unnecessary.
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I'd never prefer an mtk powered device over an SD one. Just look at rm8p xda development forum and here. Words are quite unnecessary.
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You are right. But I am not into rooting and stuff.
Gnusvol said:
I just bought Realme 5 Pro 4/128 variant after (and still) owning Realme 3 Pro 6/128. I have considered Redmi Note 8 Pro before buying, but at the end I chose Realme. Here is why:
- Photography is the most important factor for me, thus I was looking for a phone with Qualcomm SOC because it will have Gcam mod for it. But then I saw on youtube lately that gcam mod also has been made available for RN8 Pro with mediatek chipset, but unfortunately the stock camera is still better than the Gcam on that phone. In case you don't know, the right Gcam variant with the right settings on Realme 3/5 Pro is amazing. I have compared it with my friend's Galaxy S9 and S10 and it put them both to shame when you examine the detail side by side at 1:1 zoom. Gcam on realme even manage to equal or beat my mirrorless M4/3 panasonic gx85!
- I read that RN8 Pro has touchscreen issues that still has not been fixed till now.
For me, ColorOS is ok. It has very aggressive RAM / battery management that often closing running apps eventhough there is still plenty of available RAM. So I just turned off the power saving feature (called 'Smart Power Saver') and use 'custom power saver' that allows you to set background running permission individually for each of your apps that you know shouldn't be close automatically like gps sport tracking app in my case. In app management setting screen you can also specify that certain apps are allowed to do auto start. You can also locked the app in the recent app screen so that it won't be closed. Unfortunately that setting is not persistent and only work until the next restart.
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I have used gcam with my LG G6 and the results very stunning. But on my Realme 3 gcam is not as good.
Thank you very much for a detailed reply. I also feel the same.
I have also made the similar thread in RN8 pro forum and no-one has yet replied ?.
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Then MIUI is definitely better but would you prefer it over stock android?
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Realme 5 pro has very capable cameras but the 48MP images doesn't look that sharp. Normal 12MP is better( I think).
Don't know about the note!!
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I have never used stock Android Before. I have heard a lot of praise though. I am not sure if I would like it or not.
I have seen the camera Comparison of both these devices on youtube and dynamic range of Realeme 5 Pro is really much better.
waqar bukhari said:
You are right. But I am not into rooting and stuff.
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Well, as you wish but rooting and custom stuff can noticeably lengthen your device's life span and raise performance, lower battery consumption. Idk why would anyone willingly not want these but it's up to you. Even if you don't count these a SD powered device is mostly better choice for base lifespan of chipset is longer and features to add later are most of time more available for SD devices rather than mtk.
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Well, as you wish but rooting and custom stuff can noticeably lengthen your device's life span and raise performance, lower battery consumption. Idk why would anyone willingly not want these but it's up to you. Even if you don't count these a SD powered device is mostly better choice for base lifespan of chipset is longer and features to add later are most of time more available for SD devices rather than mtk.
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I have also come to know that Xiaomi Has released Source Code or something like that which will be very helpful for development. Actually I read it on XDA review. They also wrote that they have shipped few RN8 Pro to devs for active development. Although Development Section of RN8 Pro seems very inactive as compared to Realme 5 Pro section.
Most Probably anyone buying phone is this range will be buying a new phone after one year so Longer Life Span of phone is just not required if it can live for one year with its performance intact (Which I have doubt about due to mediatek).
Most of the people will never use Rooting and stuff on their phones even if the stuff is available for their phones (I Guess). But it is always nice to have support for your device. It is a plus but not a negative in my view.
Gnusvol said:
I just bought Realme 5 Pro 4/128 variant after (and still) owning Realme 3 Pro 6/128. I have considered Redmi Note 8 Pro before buying, but at the end I chose Realme. Here is why:
- Photography is the most important factor for me, thus I was looking for a phone with Qualcomm SOC because it will have Gcam mod for it. But then I saw on youtube lately that gcam mod also has been made available for RN8 Pro with mediatek chipset, but unfortunately the stock camera is still better than the Gcam on that phone. In case you don't know, the right Gcam variant with the right settings on Realme 3/5 Pro is amazing. I have compared it with my friend's Galaxy S9 and S10 and it put them both to shame when you examine the detail side by side at 1:1 zoom. Gcam on realme even manage to equal or beat my mirrorless M4/3 panasonic gx85!
- I read that RN8 Pro has touchscreen issues that still has not been fixed till now.
For me, ColorOS is ok. It has very aggressive RAM / battery management that often closing running apps eventhough there is still plenty of available RAM. So I just turned off the power saving feature (called 'Smart Power Saver') and use 'custom power saver' that allows you to set background running permission individually for each of your apps that you know shouldn't be close automatically like gps sport tracking app in my case. In app management setting screen you can also specify that certain apps are allowed to do auto start. You can also locked the app in the recent app screen so that it won't be closed. Unfortunately that setting is not persistent and only work until the next restart.
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There is a 4/128GB variant? Btw which gcam version did you use?
Gnusvol said:
I just bought Realme 5 Pro 4/128 variant after (and still) owning Realme 3 Pro 6/128. I have considered Redmi Note 8 Pro before buying, but at the end I chose Realme. Here is why:
- Photography is the most important factor for me, thus I was looking for a phone with Qualcomm SOC because it will have Gcam mod for it. But then I saw on youtube lately that gcam mod also has been made available for RN8 Pro with mediatek chipset, but unfortunately the stock camera is still better than the Gcam on that phone. In case you don't know, the right Gcam variant with the right settings on Realme 3/5 Pro is amazing. I have compared it with my friend's Galaxy S9 and S10 and it put them both to shame when you examine the detail side by side at 1:1 zoom. Gcam on realme even manage to equal or beat my mirrorless M4/3 panasonic gx85!
- I read that RN8 Pro has touchscreen issues that still has not been fixed till now.
For me, ColorOS is ok. It has very aggressive RAM / battery management that often closing running apps eventhough there is still plenty of available RAM. So I just turned off the power saving feature (called 'Smart Power Saver') and use 'custom power saver' that allows you to set background running permission individually for each of your apps that you know shouldn't be close automatically like gps sport tracking app in my case. In app management setting screen you can also specify that certain apps are allowed to do auto start. You can also locked the app in the recent app screen so that it won't be closed. Unfortunately that setting is not persistent and only work until the next restart.
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Which GCam version did you use?
waqar bukhari said:
I have also come to know that Xiaomi Has released Source Code or something like that which will be very helpful for development. Actually I read it on XDA review. They also wrote that they have shipped few RN8 Pro to devs for active development. Although Development Section of RN8 Pro seems very inactive as compared to Realme 5 Pro section.
Most Probably anyone buying phone is this range will be buying a new phone after one year so Longer Life Span of phone is just not required if it can live for one year with its performance intact (Which I have doubt about due to mediatek).
Most of the people will never use Rooting and stuff on their phones even if the stuff is available for their phones (I Guess). But it is always nice to have support for your device. It is a plus but not a negative in my view.
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Absolutely agree. Although even with released source code and free gift devices to developers indeed xda seems way more inactive if we compare redmi note 8 pro and realme 5 pro. I'm absolutely glad I bought this device instead of rm8p especially as you said custom stuff support and help. Probably mtk devices aren't the favorite of developers either so rm5p getting faster development with delayed source code reveal and even without gift devices to devs.
Wolverinedd2 said:
There is a 4/128GB variant? Btw which gcam version did you use?
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Yes there is in Indonesia.
This version MGC_6.1.021_MI8_V2e.apk
In addition to the instruction there to set the saturation, I activate HDR+ enhanched mode which gives much better result in settings > general - advanced > HDR+ control = on and then set to hdr+ enhanced in the camera main screen.

Manual video recording options

Hi all,
I'm just thinking of buying the Mi Note 10 Pro, because of its battery and camera. I use phone camera mainly (but not only) for video recording (I record some youtube videos from time to time (nothing really complex, vlogs, gameplays and technology reviews), and because of this I use a lot manual controls for white balance, focus and exposure. Right now I'm using a P20 Pro with Filmic pro app, which is working well, but I was thinking on update it, and since the Mi Note 10 Pro has such a great battery and camera (as DxOMark reviewed), as well as good price, I though it could be my update.
But before buying I need to now if there is any possibility of using manual controls over video recording on this device with the stock camera app in global rom, or if it is compatible with FiLMiC Pro app (at least with the main and selfie sensors, which will be my common use), or if there is any other way to achieve this on this device (maybe GCam?).
Will really appreciate any help on solving this doubts, as are my only doubts before buying it.
Thanks!
Hi,
yes it works quite well with FilmicPro (use standard quality option, because Filmic or Filmicextreme is too harsh at some moments). Hope with next update there comes LOG settings mode to Filmic Pro.
Anyway, stock camera does not have manual video options, like Mi 10 or Redmi note 9s. But if note9s has it, probably they will enable it in coming OS updates - hope so..
So at this moment for all 5 lenses working video and manual controls I mostly use modified open camera app by D1G1TE, see thead here, in page 2:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi...-5-cams-opencamera-108mpx-mode-t4016279/page3
All 5 lenses works well, up to 80mbps it works most stable comparing to other camera apps. Very satisfied with this
Thanks for replying!
I was just reading about the modified opencamera, so I guess I can go with it even if filmic pro or xiaomi do not release anything else (will try actual filmic pro version anyway, maybe is good enough for me)
Just ordered the mi note 10 pro now, I guess it will be a good update coming from my p20 pro.
Thanks again for replying!

Better or more filming-options for Mi Note 10 Pro?

Hi,
I have the Mi Note 10 Pro. It makes great videos and even better photos. But especially in the video mode I am frightened by the lack of functions. While the photo mode can really shine, you can't really adjust anything in video mode. And above all you can't use the large number of lenses?
I have now read that other Xiaomi smartphones have been given a professional video mode with MIUI 12. Isn't there a way to port it to our phone somehow?
Or does anybody know of an app that makes such functions usable?
Then there is FILMICPro, but it doesn't really support good camphones. Xiaomi hardly either.
Maybe one of you knows some advice or words of consolation or something
Greetz Timm
Here you find what you are looking for:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-note-10/help/port-xiaomi-mi-10s-miui-camera-app-to-t4168645
Cheers
bronxx2000 said:
Then there is FILMICPro, but it doesn't really support good camphones. Xiaomi hardly either.
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Actually, apart from EIS FilmicPro fully supports the Xiaomi Mi Note 10. The Mi Note 10 has been specifically mentioned in recent changelogs as having recieved full camera support, meaning you can use every available lens (minus 5x).

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