Sound quality and Harman/Kardon compatibility - MTCD Android Head Units Q&A

Hello everyone!
I'm new to this section of this forum so I've read quite a few posts about the android head units. Recently I've got a MB CLK 2006 USA spec with COMAND MSCII and Harman/Kardon. Everything is great except for the fact that I live in Europe and the vehicle is from USA. The head unit has limited functionality and poor choice of audio sources (AUX and CDs). I'd like to upgrade to an android head unit though I'm really concerned about the sound quality. Most posts I read say that the quality is WORSE than the stock unit. Is that true? I was looking particularly at this head unit. It says it has "built-in" DSP and an octa core processor. So I'd assume this is the best bet I've got considering I want to keep the OEM look. Will it be compatible with Harman/Kardon and its optics wiring? Can I expect at least similar sound quality as from the OEM unit listening to a CD?
Thank you for all the replies in advance!

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Asus Glaxy7 - 800x480 Omnia competitor?

Hey guys
anyone know anything or heard about this device which is alledgedly due for release in October? Anyone used Asus devices? Are they good quality? Seems to be exactly what I'm after (Omnia with a proper screen)
http://wmpoweruser.com/?tag=asus-glaxy7
GSM Connectivity : GPRS/EDGE/3G/HSDPA/HAUPA
GSM Frequency : 850/900/1800/1900
WCDMA Frequency: 900/1900/2100 (Sorry US readers )
Screen: 3.5 “WVGA 800X480 / 65K Color TFT
System: Microsoft WM 6.1 Professional
UI: Glide 1.5
Camera: 5MP (2592×1944px) from autofocus
Video: MPEG4, H.264 encoding & decoding - resolution unknown
Communications: Bluetooth 2.0, Wifi, USB
aGPS
Audio: AAC, AMR-NB, AMR-WB, EVRC, QCELP, AAC + + EAAC, MP3, MIDI, PCM, WAV
Working time:
Standby : 200 hours
Talk time: 4 hours
Memory: 4GB flash
Expansion: microSD
Dimensions: 115×59x13.8mm
Tracking ball
Accelerometer
Construction: stainless steel
Interesting eh?
Asus devices are of good quality, little worse then Samsung maybe though (I have both i900 and ASUS p525 now to compare).
As time goes on, better and better devices are announced. This one will be officially announced in October, so expect to be able to buy it around Christmas. At this time no doubt that some other better device will be announced from some other manufacturer, and so on
hehe yeah, as is all things with technology in them
This does finaly look like the device for me though
After some googling it looks like it will be released in October and not just announced .... i hope!
****, now I don`t know which one to get, this, touch hd or xperia.
if this has better video recording and playback I just might get this instead of Touch HD & Xperia.
Great phones coming for Santa`s bag
indeed, we seem to be overflowing with choice however, for me its simple.
Xperia, Touch HD == HTC manufactured so NO.
Omnia = odd and small screen res and apparently very buggy
So that leave me with the Asus.
That makes sense and I can see why
Tho I am leaning towards this piece of power, I`ll wait for the reviews
Monty Burns said:
indeed, we seem to be overflowing with choice however, for me its simple.
Xperia, Touch HD == HTC manufactured so NO.
Omnia = odd and small screen res and apparently very buggy
So that leave me with the Asus.
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I have seen issues with HTC not providing proper drivers for their devices... What else do you have against HTC ? Do you think other manufacturers are really different ? I'm about to change my phone, so i'd like to have your advice about this...
Thanks
Hey
HTC hardware build quality is awefull in my experience. I have not had one HTC device that I have not had to return at least once. I treat my devices like the expensive equipment they are and do not keep them in pockets with objects such as keys or money etc.
Its a real shame as HTC design and specification is awesome, just they seem to use awefull and cheap components to build them.
I have a Toshiba G900 which is an awesome device but sadly lacks RAM and GPS. For these reason i did something I said I would never do and changed back to a HTC device - Touch Diamond (which is a downgrade on the awesome screen of the tosh) and without fail, the Diamond is letting me down. The coating on the top of the tempered glass is so easily scratched, its getting scratched by just putting in on a desk. The buttons have scratches, the back panel paint is wearing off and the bezel around the screen has what looks like a silver/metal patch showing through. All this I could expect from a device thats a year old - like my G900 - but not a one month old phone. Oh and the other BIG issue is that I cannot play music without a skip, pause or song chop! (this is all Touch Diamonds) This is not just my issue, everyone gets it, and if anyone says they don't, lots of us would like to know what your doing and how your doing it!!!!
I can only say that my Toshiba was excellent build quality but I cannot vouch for any other manufacturer, only to say that they can't be any worse than HTC!
p.s. remember, the X1 is being MADE by HTC and branded/customised by Sony, chances are, it will be rubbish build quality as well.
edit: the Driver issue is not just a HTC issue. For some reason lots of manu's put the Nvidia chipset into the devices and never actually "drive" it - including Toshiba. Just bizzare.
Does anybody know something about the cpu and ram?
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1480
CPU 32bit Marvell PXA930
RAM 128
ROM is marked up at 4gig but I think they mean memory card. Not sure about the actual "rom" size.
Details are still sketchy and im not sure where PDADB got a lot of this from to be honest.
At this moment I've a HTC TyTN II, maybe this would be my new device too!
Since I've seen this device I'm doubt between the HTC Touch Pro and the Glaxy7. Should I miss the hardware keyboard? I'm still writing on the screen mostly because I forget my keyboard.
The Touch Pro has 288MB Ram vs the Glaxy7 with just 128MB, the Touch Pro has a keyboard, the Touch Pro has a bigger user community.
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Other models I've been doubting but no go because:
- HTC Touch Diamond; no card slot
- HTC Touch HD; 25% more pixels but same cpu, only touchscreen no buttons, too big device?
- Samsung Omnia: too glossy for me, crappy case, no good experience with Samsung phones (no experience with their PPC's)
- Sony Ericsson: I'don't like the buttons of the keyboard, I was always a Ericsson fan (later SE) but with this don't know. Beside if I've to choose between the Touch Pro and the Xperia l'll choose the HTC. More RAM and bigger community.
The camera is for me no point to choose. At least, that would be my last point. It's reasonable the camera is one of the choosing facts. But remind that Windows Mobile isn't good with photo's.
E-ten has new devices too, but that is Acer. My experience with the Acer notebooks are not good. Cheap silly things!
your forgeting that the Glaxy has a 5mp camera as well.... this is important (at least to me)
Black-Rose said:
At this moment I've a HTC TyTN II, maybe this would be my new device too!
Since I've seen this device I'm doubt between the HTC Touch Pro and the Glaxy7. Should I miss the hardware keyboard? I'm still writing on the screen mostly because I forget my keyboard.
The Touch Pro has 288MB Ram vs the Glaxy7 with just 128MB, the Touch Pro has a keyboard, the Touch Pro has a bigger user community.
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Other models I've been doubting but no go because:
- HTC Touch Diamond; no card slot
- HTC Touch HD; 25% more pixels but same cpu, only touchscreen no buttons, too big device?
- Samsung Omnia: too glossy for me, crappy case, no good experience with Samsung phones (no experience with their PPC's)
E-ten has new devices too, but that is Acer. My experience with the Acer notebooks are not good. Cheap silly things!
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You forgot sony xperia.
+there should be some phones based on android, and some new phones with nvidia chips
Actually i don't want a suck CPU in my phone that make it slow enough for dialing, browser internet / photos and watching movie lagging same as an old-style projector in classroom.
Yes, the qualcomm having ATI Imageon, but also no HW support both 2d and 3d, so no VGA now.
If this machine really using intel cpu, this should be cool and the greatest PDA phone ever.
asus quality..
i used to have an asus p535 and it was one of the best pocket pcs that i owned.
it was very powerfull and it does not hang.
the built quality was excellent and the color does not peel because it is melted with the plastic itself.
the GPS was sirf III one of the best reciever in the world.
what i want to say is that asus products are very good but asus lacks the marketing touch to sell its products.
galaxy 7 will be a great device ,i am sure and i am looking forward for its release.
its good to hear from someone who has actually used a previous Asus PDA. Thanks for sharing your experience.
I must admit, i'm already sold on the Glaxy even though I am growing positivley towards my Diamond again - despite its poor hardware build quality.
Is this a new fashion? WVGA and WQVGA?
I like big screens, but I don't like software incompatibility...
My old (Now) G900 had an 800*480 screen and I only found issues with older versions of TomTom. Like it or not, I reckon this will become the new "standard" screen res and as such, people are/will develope code to handle it.
I have been using a Samsung Omnia for a few weeks now, and previously I used an Asus P525 for a little over 1 year. I still have the P525 (keeping it as spare).
Build quality: Asus is top notch as far as I am concerned, on par with my previous SE phones (P800,P900). High quality material all around on the P525.
Omnia is not bad at all, although the plastic case and back will get scratched quite fast, I think. There have been a number of complaints about Omnia units having to be returned for some sort or other hardware problem. Difficult to evaluate how serious it is as you only hear from the people having problems, not those that have not had any.
Software: This is where I think the Omnia is weak at this point in time: there are still a number of bugs in the OS (some major, some minor), whereas the P525 was rock solid (went from WM5 to WM6 no problem). Is it a result of rushing to market ? Nonetheless, Samsung is releasing ROM updates just about every month, so they are certainly trying... Flashing an Omnia is not an easy (or safe) process (no booloader method found to date), and a hardware initiated hard reset is very difficult to achieve (the only time I really had to use it it took me 30 minutes of button pushing to finally initiate the Hard Reset).
If the upcoming Galaxy7 is anything like my P525 and has the right specifications, and Samsung does not clear up a certain number of things that are important to me, I may very well switch.
My 2 cents...
"WCDMA Frequency: 900/1900/2100 (Sorry US readers )"
so it works in 1900umts in USA 3G, right?
i know it should works, but i just want to make sure. haha

FlatPad A10T

So I just ordered mine and it ships out next week.
http://www.flatcomputing.com/products/details/3/FlatPad-A10T-NEW
FlatPad A10T also know as Malata SMB-A1101 or Malata SMB-A1002 I am not sure yet.
A Video of the Prototype Malata running 2.1 in action.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFi1ddK2AGM
FlatPad A10T General Features
OS
Android 2.2 Froyo
Size
9.96in x 6.45in x 0.49in
Weight - 640g – 1.4lbs
Power & Battery
3900mAH 7.4V Lithium Ion (2 Cell Custom Pack)
Approx. 8-10hrs life fully charged
110-240V line input
19V DC output 2A
Display
10.1” Capacitive Multi-Touch screen
1024 x 600
Processor
NVIDIA Tegra T250 1 GHZ
Combined application/graphic accelerator
Memory
1GB DDR DRAM
8GB NAND Flash
Expansion
micro SD up to 32GB
Interface & Connectivity
Bluetooth 2.1 audio - enhanced data transfer
Wireless 802.11 b/g/n
USB 2.0 High speed OTG
Mini HDMI
Audio
3.5mm audio jack
Internal speakers
Additional Features
G Sensor
Ambient light sensor
Built in Microphone
Welcome Back... We'll need a user section on these over at Slatedroid like we setup for the ZT-180... I believe that this is a 'Malata SMB-A1002' tablet based at least on what comparison we can see from FC pictures... It' seems to match up with similar specs as the 'Advent Vega' tablet so based on some vodeo reviews of that similar tablet this should be a screamer!
jtbnet said:
Welcome Back... We'll need a user section on these over at Slatedroid like we setup for the ZT-180... I believe that this is a 'Malata SMB-A1002' tablet based at least on what comparison we can see from FC pictures... It' seems to match up with similar specs as the 'Advent Vega' tablet so based on some vodeo reviews of that similar tablet this should be a screamer!
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I wanted to start one but it doesn't have a section yet so I made one under the Non Listed Thread
i ordered one as well so here is hopeing they live up to thier specs
Looks like they haven't gotten them in yet. : http://www.flatcomputing.com/forum/showthread.php?16-A10T-release-date&p=110&viewfull=1#post110
Found an Android 2.2 User guide online - http://www.droid-life.com/2010/08/03/download-official-android-2-2-user-guide/
(Hmmm - ok, so this seems like double posting to me now, since it's in the Flat Computing Forum already. Ok last time I'll put the same info in both forums.)
well, let's hope this one or a clone will be available for around 299.
That would be a ipad killer.
considering the price of 199 for the A10, the A10T might be available elsewhere for at least 350.
let's wait and see .
Maybe the first post can contain the hardware compatible models?
OpenMinded said:
well, let's hope this one or a clone will be available for around 299.
That would be a ipad killer.
considering the price of 199 for the A10, the A10T might be available elsewhere for at least 350.
let's wait and see .
Maybe the first post can contain the hardware compatible models?
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what do you mean hardware compatible models?
<Laharl> said:
what do you mean hardware compatible models?
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Well, the ZT-180 was also known as ePad, Apad (A10?) en probably other names.
It would be interesting to have all the variations here, so we spot the most affordable one .
OpenMinded said:
Well, the ZT-180 was also known as ePad, Apad (A10?) en probably other names.
It would be interesting to have all the variations here, so we spot the most affordable one .
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Malata SMB-A1101 is the only thing I know of a name so far
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFi1ddK2AGM
<Laharl> said:
Malata SMB-A1101 is the only thing I know of a name so far
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFi1ddK2AGM
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I saw that before. I wonder if it is capacitive.
The commenter says it runs 2.1 and it looks a bit inresponsive sometimes, so I wonder if it is the same hardware.
Anyone get one of these yet?
have cancelled my order , their main page say's sold out mid january
but i havent even got the one i ordered for october let alone any notification
as to delivery changes after the update today
JT posted a 1029 ROM for Malata Tablets...
http://www.chinadigitalcomm.com/malata-zpad-f79/malata-zpad-firmware-1029-t1976.html
Flat Computing A10T review
A10t Review
I have been using the A10t (engineering model) for over 1 week. Following are my thoughts:
1. This unit is extremely fast. I played a DVD quality movie (full screen), and rotated the tablet, while the vid was playing. It didn't miss a beat.
2. Zooming in/out is extremely smooth and fast.
3. Wifi works great.
4. The display is unreal, (GREAT), beats the ipad
I ran this next to an Ipad, there is no comparison, This IS an Ipad KILLER!!!
It has no drawbacks, that I can find, except posibly the weight, but this is a 10" screen.
This review is short and sweet
I will write a full review in the very near future.
This is NOT vaporware. Those of you that are thinking about cancelling your order, should thing not once, twice, but thrice, before cancelling.
Remember, I am testing an engineering version of this tablet, ROMs are still being worked on. If it works this well in the engineering model, I can't wait to get the
production unit that I ordered.
hi,
So you can confirm it runs Android 2.2 and has flash 10.x running?
I bought the iPad which has blown away my zt-180.
I would not call it an iPad killer untill I see a similar great app stack is developped for Android that uses the screen size properly.
Sounds great, I will definitely check it out.
Please keep us informed!
This page shows the current models :
http://www.androidpads.com/2010/09/...-interpad-hanspree-snappiness-for-around-400/
Did anyone test one yet?
I wonder if battery life is correct, if external gps can be used, 3G dongle and if it is flashable?
Good value for money imho.
I am missing a front camera only.

No Love for Ainol Tablets? Wwait to Buy Flame II? No Forum?

I'm in need of a 7" tablet. I own a Samsung S3 phone and I bought one of my kids a Nexus 7 a couple months ago. Nexus 7 is great but I recently discovered Ainol specs. I understand it's a China-direct deal and it is going to be way behind something like a Nexus as far as support and ease/frequency of firmware and OS updates. Seems though, sort of like Hyundai, it may have had a shaky reputation earlier but their latest devices seem to be of pretty high quality.
Mainly, I'm eyeballing the Flame 7" tablet. Much better hardware specs than the Nexus, aside from maybe a little less powerful CPU? I don't need it for gaming though. I love the fact it has both an SD card slot and a front facing 2MP camera and rear facing 5MP camera. I like to do video conferencing and you can't do that on a Nexus. Build quality looks close to Nexus and Ainol has Play Store and supports FLASH. Wow. Really hard to pass up.
My dilemma now is to wait for the Flame II with the quad-core CPU and rumored Android 4.2, or just get the current dual-core model. Seems you risk firmware bugs in a brand new device, but, sure would be nice to have 4.2 right off the bat. I'm not sure what other differences there are on the II other than the CPU? Anyone know?
The specs on the Flame 1 say ICS with JB Update. But a search for a JB update for the Flame 1 turns up nothing. Hence, the poor manufacturer and community support on these "off brands" seems to be their only downside assuming the hardware reliability on their latest models is up to par.
Seems to be an increasingly popular brand, maybe the most popular out of the 'off brands.' Yet no forums for them here despite many other tablet forums?
Dedicated Forums are created in XDA depending upon the development works the device has. If it has a high level development like ports of CyanogenMod, AOKP, custom recovery, kernels, other tweaks, mods etc. then there is a chance that it gets a dedicated forum.

[Q]Which Car Radio Android Head Unit platform RK3066 o RK3188?

Thanks to the talk about Huafei and RK3066, I discover about the Car Radio OEM based on "pure" android... And now Im finilly find a brand and model seem fit on me, I find that a lot of OEM units are launch with he RK3188... But when I start looking info about these SOC, Just find not so much good info in how the SOC RK3188 works on Tablets... even some one had N90II Yuandao (RK3066), and must change to Vido N90FHD (97rq) (RK3188) and say its very bad 2d experience... say only good is see films... It's said Mali can't support big resolution....
Then... How it is going on Car Radio unit? What I saw, have the same resolution 1024 x 600... then... Must I deduce then the "agility" with apps will be the same of car units with RK3066?
Please Help!
3188 eonon
Mine has 4.4.4 3188 processor and I have had it since oct 2015
I have gotten 2 diff updates so far, none have fixed the volume knob dies problem
I have these IMG files, not sure where to upload them to for others to use
Any idea of another android version to try?

The LG V20 will be the first phone with a 32 bit Quad DAC

yep looks like the V20 is my next phone. Decision has been made easy.
http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-v20-will-be-first-phone-quad-dac
The LG V20 not only will be the first phone to run Android 7.0, but news from Seoul tells us it will also be the first smartphone to feature a Quad DAC.
While the actual model isn't yet revealed, we do know LG is once again partnering with ESS to bring premium audio to the V20. ESS also provided the excellent 32bit DAC in the V10, which received pretty rave reviews for its audio performance.
Higher quality audio is simply the natural evolution of the smartphone, as the industry moves toward a more holistic multimedia consumption experience. — Juno Cho, president of LG Electronics and Mobile Communications Company.​ LG says that they know users are now looking for more than a fast processor and a big display when they buy a high-end phone, and they aim to provide it with the V20. We'll know more — and hopefully get to put our hands on a V20 — on September 6 when LG unveils the whole package in San Francisco. In the meantime, we can read the press releases. This one is below.
LG V20, WORLD'S FIRST SMARTPHONE WITH QUAD DAC FOR BEST IN CLASS AUDIO
LG and ESS Technology Collaborate to Deliver One-of-a-Kind Audio Experience
SEOUL, Aug. 11, 2016 ― LG Electronics (LG) announced that its forthcoming flagship smartphone, LG V20, will be the first smartphone in the industry to feature 32-bit Hi-Fi Quad DAC (digital to analog converter) capabilities, bringing a superior audio experience to mobile for the very first time.
A Quad DAC delivers a crisp and clear sound that comes closest to a live performance when using compatible wired headphones. The sound is superior to that produced by a traditional DAC as it can reduce up to 50 percent of ambient noise levels. Videos taken with the V20 are accompanied by a soundtrack that can capture the roaring sound of waves crashing on a beach or conversations among two individuals at a noisy party.
LG worked closely with ESS Technology, a leader in high-performance analog and audio devices, to ensure that the Quad DAC, delivered the best audio experience for owners of the LG V20. The Quad DAC is the lynchpin of the many cutting-edge multimedia features included in the LG V20. ESS Technology previously provided its 32-bit Hi-Fi DAC in the V10, LG V20's predecessor.
"As smartphones mature, we're seeing more and more customers looking beyond just fast processors and big displays in their devices," said Juno Cho, president of LG Electronics and Mobile Communications Company. "Higher quality audio is simply the natural evolution of the smartphone, as the industry moves toward a more holistic multimedia consumption experience. We're pleased to continue this long-term partnership with ESS and bring best in class audio to LG V20 users."
"We are extremely excited that our Quad DAC technology will be featured in the V20, LG's latest flagship smartphone for consumers who demand the best media experience," said Robert Blair, president and chief executive officer of ESS Technology. "As a technology more typically available in high-end audio equipment, Quad DAC on the V20 will make users feel as if they are carrying around a professional home-audio system on their smartphone."
Sound should be phenomenal!
Amd4life said:
yep looks like the V20 is my next phone. Decision has been made easy.
http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-v20-will-be-first-phone-quad-dac
The LG V20 not only will be the first phone to run Android 7.0, but news from Seoul tells us it will also be the first smartphone to feature a Quad DAC.
While the actual model isn't yet revealed, we do know LG is once again partnering with ESS to bring premium audio to the V20. ESS also provided the excellent 32bit DAC in the V10, which received pretty rave reviews for its audio performance.
Higher quality audio is simply the natural evolution of the smartphone, as the industry moves toward a more holistic multimedia consumption experience. â?? Juno Cho, president of LG Electronics and Mobile Communications Company.
LG says that they know users are now looking for more than a fast processor and a big display when they buy a high-end phone, and they aim to provide it with the V20. We'll know more â?? and hopefully get to put our hands on a V20 â?? on September 6 when LG unveils the whole package in San Francisco. In the meantime, we can read the press releases. This one is below.
LG V20, WORLD'S FIRST SMARTPHONE WITH QUAD DAC FOR BEST IN CLASS AUDIO
LG and ESS Technology Collaborate to Deliver One-of-a-Kind Audio Experience
SEOUL, Aug. 11, 2016 ― LG Electronics (LG) announced that its forthcoming flagship smartphone, LG V20, will be the first smartphone in the industry to feature 32-bit Hi-Fi Quad DAC (digital to analog converter) capabilities, bringing a superior audio experience to mobile for the very first time.
A Quad DAC delivers a crisp and clear sound that comes closest to a live performance when using compatible wired headphones. The sound is superior to that produced by a traditional DAC as it can reduce up to 50 percent of ambient noise levels. Videos taken with the V20 are accompanied by a soundtrack that can capture the roaring sound of waves crashing on a beach or conversations among two individuals at a noisy party.
LG worked closely with ESS Technology, a leader in high-performance analog and audio devices, to ensure that the Quad DAC, delivered the best audio experience for owners of the LG V20. The Quad DAC is the lynchpin of the many cutting-edge multimedia features included in the LG V20. ESS Technology previously provided its 32-bit Hi-Fi DAC in the V10, LG V20's predecessor.
"As smartphones mature, we're seeing more and more customers looking beyond just fast processors and big displays in their devices," said Juno Cho, president of LG Electronics and Mobile Communications Company. "Higher quality audio is simply the natural evolution of the smartphone, as the industry moves toward a more holistic multimedia consumption experience. We're pleased to continue this long-term partnership with ESS and bring best in class audio to LG V20 users."
"We are extremely excited that our Quad DAC technology will be featured in the V20, LG's latest flagship smartphone for consumers who demand the best media experience," said Robert Blair, president and chief executive officer of ESS Technology. "As a technology more typically available in high-end audio equipment, Quad DAC on the V20 will make users feel as if they are carrying around a professional home-audio system on their smartphone."
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Will it come with a locked bootloader??
what concerns me slightly is that i have the HiFi DAC module on the G5 and it actually uses a better Sabre DAC chip (their flagship ES9028) over the 9018 in the V20. True there's 4 of the lower end chips in the V20.
correct me if im wrong
mikey_sk said:
what concerns me slightly is that i have the HiFi DAC module on the G5 and it actually uses a better Sabre DAC chip (their flagship ES9028) over the 9018 in the V20. True there's 4 of the lower end chips in the V20.
correct me if im wrong
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I doubt there's any noticeable difference. Either setup is going to be plenty better than the 820 audio setup.
The DAC in the V20 is tempting me tremendously.....BUT, as I approach the purchase of a new headunit in my Z, I plan to use bluetooth streaming of music from my phone to the headunit.....so, if im not mistaken, the DAC is useless for bluetooth users..... someone please correct me if I'm mistaken.
igotroot said:
The DAC in the V20 is tempting me tremendously.....BUT, as I approach the purchase of a new headunit in my Z, I plan to use bluetooth streaming of music from my phone to the headunit.....so, if im not mistaken, the DAC is useless for bluetooth users..... someone please correct me if I'm mistaken.
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That is true. But I highly recommend you make sure that headunit and your phone supports apt-X codec for the best BT sound possible.
Nitemare3219 said:
That is true. But I highly recommend you make sure that headunit and your phone supports apt-X codec for the best BT sound possible.
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and of course bluetooth wont match the pure 32/192 steam of an analogue headphone when playing higher res files.
mikey_sk said:
and of course bluetooth wont match the pure 32/192 steam of an analogue headphone when playing higher res files.
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Yeah...... maybe in the future a high res transmission for bluetooth, etc may exist
The audio DAC is also tempting for me. I have a Note 4 Development Edition, and a Nissan Altima. The car has XM (which I used for years until the price got too high), a 6 CD changer, and a 3.5mm AUX input. When I use the Note 4 connected to headphones or to the car, I can hear a constant hiss in the background, and if the phone is charging at the same time, I hear electrical interference from that.
Hopefully the V20 doesn't have these issues (not sure if Samsung fixed it on the Note 7).
FAUguy said:
The audio DAC is also tempting for me. I have a Note 4 Development Edition, and a Nissan Altima. The car has XM (which I used for years until the price got too high), a 6 CD changer, and a 3.5mm AUX input. When I use the Note 4 connected to headphones or to the car, I can hear a constant hiss in the background, and if the phone is charging at the same time, I hear electrical interference from that.
Hopefully the V20 doesn't have these issues (not sure if Samsung fixed it on the Note 7).
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Problem is that your putting a headphone impedance output into a line level input
Im guessing you need to turn the volume way up too ? Correct
noone606 said:
Problem is that your putting a headphone impedance output into a line level input
Im guessing you need to turn the volume way up too ? Correct
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If this is the case, it may be worth trying a USB OTG cable connected to a USB DAC.
I ran this on my Note 3 and connected it to a headphone amp. I think I only paid about £20 for the DAC and under a fiver for the OTG.
DannyY said:
If this is the case, it may be worth trying a USB OTG cable connected to a USB DAC.
I ran this on my Note 3 and connected it to a headphone amp. I think I only paid about £20 for the DAC and under a fiver for the OTG.
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I'm not sure what the impedance difference is between the 3.5 mm headphone out on the Note 4, and the 3.5mm AUX Audio input on my 2009 Altima Bose stereo.
But as far as using a USB On The Go cable, I can see connecting it to the phone, but then to a headphone DAC Amp and then to the 3.5mm radio input?
If this is the case, how do you get the music to stream from the phone, via USB, to the DAC?
noone606 said:
Problem is that your putting a headphone impedance output into a line level input
Im guessing you need to turn the volume way up too ? Correct
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FAUguy said:
I'm not sure what the impedance difference is between the 3.5 mm headphone out on the Note 4, and the 3.5mm AUX Audio input on my 2009 Altima Bose stereo.
But as far as using a USB On The Go cable, I can see connecting it to the phone, but then to a headphone DAC Amp and then to the 3.5mm radio input?
If this is the case, how do you get the music to stream from the phone, via USB, to the DAC?
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The phone recognises that there is a USB DAC and sends the audio there. I don't do anything in particular to switch between USB or the 3.5mm jack.
Viper and Poweramp both have USB settings.
The DAC I have is the Stoner Acoustics UD100. I bought it in 2013. I have an old Fiio E5 headphone amp to go with it too.
DannyY said:
The phone recognises that there is a USB DAC and sends the audio there. I don't do anything in particular to switch between USB or the 3.5mm jack.
Viper and Poweramp both have USB settings.
The DAC I have is the Stoner Acoustics UD100. I bought it in 2013. I have an old Fiio E5 headphone amp to go with it too.
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I think that I would try the V20 by itself first with audio out to the car, before buying external components.
And as far as using it with my Note 4, there would be no way to keep the phobe charge plugged in, if the USB is being used with a DAC.
FAUguy said:
I think that I would try the V20 by itself first with audio out to the car, before buying external components.
And as far as using it with my Note 4, there would be no way to keep the phobe charge plugged in, if the USB is being used with a DAC.
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Yes, of course. If the on-board DAC is adequate and there are no more problems with the hissing, which is why I suggested the external DAC initially.
As for charging, I have seen these but not tried them personally:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00V9XS4V4/ref=pd_aw_sim_sbs_147_1/251-1648480-3081019
DannyY said:
Yes, of course. If the on-board DAC is adequate and there are no more problems with the hissing, which is why I suggested the external DAC initially.
As for charging, I have seen these but not tried them personally:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00V9XS4V4/ref=pd_aw_sim_sbs_147_1/251-1648480-3081019
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Well I tried the Note 4 with my car's AUX input again.
As it turns out, if you plug in the audio cable from the phone to the car first, play a song, then plug in the charger, you don't hear any hiss. But if you stop and exit the music player, while the phone is charging, you can hear an electric sound, and even static when touching the screen.

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