I want to update everything except leave the bootloader on 7.1. Will this work?
LoliSmith said:
I want to update everything except leave the bootloader on 7.1. Will this work?
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I don't believe that will work. Why do you want to do that? 7.1.1 won't relock it if that is what you are worried about....as long as you are already unlocked.
TonikJDK said:
I don't believe that will work..
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I think I will try it.
TonikJDK said:
Why do you want to do that?
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I want to be able to lock and unlock if I need to.
LoliSmith said:
I think I will try it.
I want to be able to lock and unlock if I need to.
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Once you are unlocked it does not matter what version you are on you can lock and unlock all you want. I advise strongly against relocking. You very well might brick yourself. Has happened to a fair number of people already. Also remember unlocking or relocking will wipe your phone.
TonikJDK said:
Once you are unlocked it does not matter what version you are on you can lock and unlock all you want.
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http://theroot.ninja/depixel8.html
"DO NOT RELOCK YOUR BOOTLOADER, unless you have restored it back to 100% stock and are sure you won't want it unlocked again."
TonikJDK said:
O I advise strongly against relocking. You very well might brick yourself. Has happened to a fair number of people already.
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Were they still on 7.1 bootloader? Or had they upgraded to 7.1.1 bootloader?
LoliSmith said:
Were they still on 7.1 bootloader? Or had they upgraded to 7.1.1 bootloader?
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Don't know, didn't pay that much attention.
TonikJDK said:
Don't know, didn't pay that much attention.
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My guess is they upgraded to the 7.1.1 bootloader and that caused the issues relocking.
LoliSmith said:
My guess is they upgraded to the 7.1.1 bootloader and that caused the issues relocking.
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It has nothing at all to do with the bootloader.
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bobby janow said:
It has nothing at all to do with the bootloader.
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So what does it have to do with then?
LoliSmith said:
So what does it have to do with then?
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No one knows for sure. Well some must know but they're not saying. Maybe imei. Depixel8 used an exploit which was closed in a November update. The bootloader versions are exactly the same for the Verizon and Google devices as are the system images.
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bobby janow said:
Depixel8 used an exploit which was closed in a November update. The bootloader versions are exactly the same for the Verizon and Google devices as are the system images.
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Right but if I stay on 7.1 bootloader, then it doesn't matter.
I am on 7.1. still. I want the bootloader to stay on 7.1. I think people who experienced problems relocking had upgraded their bootloader to 7.1.1.
LoliSmith said:
Right but if I stay on 7.1 bootloader, then it doesn't matter.
I am on 7.1. still. I want the bootloader to stay on 7.1. I think people who experienced problems relocking had upgraded their bootloader to 7.1.1.
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There has been posts about problems relocking before 7.1. Bottom line is if you have a Verizon Pixel, you don't want to do it unless you are completely stock. Regardless of the version of your bootloader. Why would you want to lock it again anyway? Under the context you are using here, it makes no sense. Keep an old bootloader so you can lock and unlock at your choosing. I can see reasons for relocking it but i can't see any reason why you'd want to unlock, then relock, then unlock, etc. Leave it unlocked and enjoy the benefits. I'm not really sure what it is you're wanting here. As has been said before, once unlocked, you'll remain unlocked. Regardless of any update with an updated bootloader. Once unlocked, the only way for you to end up with a locked bootloader is if you issue the necessary fastboot commands. Leave it unlocked. Enjoy. Just my two cents worth.
bobby janow said:
No one knows for sure. Well some must know but they're not saying. Maybe imei. Depixel8 used an exploit which was closed in a November update. The bootloader versions are exactly the same for the Verizon and Google devices as are the system images.
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There's actually a total of 5 bootloaders
robocuff said:
Bottom line is if you have a Verizon Pixel, you don't want to do it unless you are completely stock.
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I would never try to relock without being completely stock.
robocuff said:
Why would you want to lock it again anyway?
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More secure.
LoliSmith said:
I would never try to relock without being completely stock.
More secure.
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I can't argue with that but how much security are losing by staying on that version and not installing the monthly updates? They are mostly security related updates. Seems to me you'd be trading one security issue for a whole bunch more. That said, if you stay on 7.1 you should be able to lock it and unlock it again in the future if that's what you want to do.
robocuff said:
I can't argue with that but how much security are losing by staying on that version and not installing the monthly updates?
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As long as they are released as flashable files, I can flash them. But if not then yeah, I am missing out on those.
robocuff said:
That said, if you stay on 7.1 you should be able to lock it and unlock it again in the future if that's what you want to do.
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Yes, that is what I want to do. The only thing I am not sure on is if I flash everything else, will the phone work with an older bootloader version. It always worked with my motorola and nexus phones but of course, that doesn't mean it will work with a Pixel.
With motorola I did have to keep the partition table consistent with the bootloader version and that could create a problem if the system partition of later versions was larger.
I plan on staying on Nougat with this phone so it shouldn't be a problem.
LoliSmith said:
As long as they are released as flashable files, I can flash them. But if not then yeah, I am missing out on those.
Yes, that is what I want to do. The only thing I am not sure on is if I flash everything else, will the phone work with an older bootloader version. It always worked with my motorola and nexus phones but of course, that doesn't mean it will work with a Pixel.
With motorola I did have to keep the partition table consistent with the bootloader version and that could create a problem if the system partition of later versions was larger.
I plan on staying on Nougat with this phone so it shouldn't be a problem.
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I don't really know what to tell you about it. The bootloader may work fine but who's to say the vulnerability that depixel8 exploits is in the bootloader? It could be software related, it could be hardware related. I really have no idea. Also, I did a bit of searching about this and from what I read, it sounds as if it might not be possible to unlock it again if you've already taken the security patch that patched the exploit. I could be wrong but it sounds as if that may be the case. Look, at the last paragraph of this article . From what that says, it sounds as though it isn't possible to unlock even on an older version of Nougat once you've taken that security patch. If that's the case, it would seem the the exploit must have targeted something at a very low level. Something other than the OS or the bootloader.
Also, even if you can do what you want to do, I don't know if you can install the updates without installing the one that patches the exploit. I really have no idea. I've seen it said that they are cumulative and in order to install the newest updates, you have to install all the previous ones first. I really have no idea if that is correct or not but if it were me, I'd tread lightly on this one unless you're willing to risk the possibility of not being able to unlock it again. These are just some of my thoughts about it all. I don't have the answers to my thoughts but if it were me, I wouldn't lock it again without knowing for sure it can be unlocked again.
robocuff said:
I could be wrong but it sounds as if that may be the case. Look, at the last paragraph of this article . From what that says, it sounds as though it isn't possible to unlock even on an older version of Nougat once you've taken that security patch.
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Right because it updated both the bootloader and the kernel. I would only be updating the kernel, not the bootloader. And I am assuming that as long as the bootloader is on 7.1, I can downgrade the kernel, system, etc. as long as the files are signed.
robocuff said:
If that's the case, it would seem the the exploit must have targeted something at a very low level. Something other than the OS or the bootloader.
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I am not going to ever take any OTAs. Presumably aboot.img is the bootloader but I am not sure what bootlocker.img and keymaster.img are so I would need to research that further. Do you know what they are?
robocuff said:
I've seen it said that they are cumulative and in order to install the newest updates, you have to install all the previous ones first.
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Are you talking about flashing or taking OTAs?
robocuff said:
I really have no idea if that is correct or not but if it were me, I'd tread lightly on this one unless you're willing to risk the possibility of not being able to unlock it again. These are just some of my thoughts about it all. I don't have the answers to my thoughts but if it were me, I wouldn't lock it again without knowing for sure it can be unlocked again.
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Thanks. I am OK with not being able to unlock again.
LoliSmith said:
keymaster.img
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Yeah, definitely won't be updating that:
https://source.android.com/security/keystore/
hi guys
i want to remove bootloader warning message with editing bootloader
i can not relock becuase i haven't TA-Partition
anyone has anyways?
thanks in advance
use the search function ...
rmb.gh said:
hi guys
i want to remove bootloader warning message with editing bootloader
i can not relock becuase i haven't TA-Partition
anyone has anyways?
thanks in advance
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/sitesearch.php?q=xperia xz relock bootloader
and from there for example
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72188072&postcount=10
DHGE said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sitesearch.php?q=xperia xz relock bootloader
and from there for example
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72188072&postcount=10
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thanks but i have searched before and nothing had been realized
i don't want relock
i want only remove that warning pop up
rmb.gh said:
thanks but i have searched before and nothing had been realized
i don't want relock
i want only remove that warning pop up
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sorry - I misread your post (I thought you wanted to relock the bootloader without TA-backup - possible but useless)
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70984563&postcount=327
DHGE said:
sorry - I misread your post (I thought you wanted to relock the bootloader without TA-backup - possible but useless)
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70984563&postcount=327
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yes it is unusable
according to your post it is impossible yes?
is there another way?
DHGE said:
sorry - I misread your post (I thought you wanted to relock the bootloader without TA-backup - possible but useless)
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70984563&postcount=327
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i found it in res folder
but it doesn't that pop up
rmb.gh said:
i found it in res folder
but it doesn't that pop up
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Well
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sitesearch.php?q=xperia bootloader warning
found me https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...o-remove-unlocked-bootloader-warning-t3201141
THIS is different on my XZ!
But there might be a way without writing a new bootloader.
The guy just patched a binary to jump to the same display as if the bootloader was locked.
No big deal but still highly risky.
I do not know how it works on the XZ. And since this does not bother me, I will not invest my time or risk my phone on a solution.
DHGE said:
Well
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sitesearch.php?q=xperia bootloader warning
found me https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...o-remove-unlocked-bootloader-warning-t3201141
THIS is different on my XZ!
But there might be a way without writing a new bootloader.
The guy just patched a binary to jump to the same display as if the bootloader was locked.
No big deal but still highly risky.
I do not know how it works on the XZ. And since this does not bother me, I will not invest my time or risk my phone on a solution.
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great ! this is a backdoor )
but it have hard brick risk true?
rmb.gh said:
but it have hard brick risk true?
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I might not be that hard.
If it is soft (I do not know) then you could still flash the original binary.
DHGE said:
I might not be that hard.
If it is soft (I do not know) then you could still flash the original binary.
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yes that's right
i read in a thread this warning was embedded with bootloader in xz but in moto e logo.bin has been exist in root folders
did you see anyone that do this? because everyone say that do not go in this way
I feel like an idiot for asking this, possibly because I am one (which can certainly be debated), but here it goes.
As the title states, I pretty much screwed up in not making sure that I had everything in place after removing root and relocking the bootloader. How would I go about re-flashing the stock recovery? I'm running a Pixel 2 and would like to be able to side load updates in the future.
Thanks in advance for any guidance!
Is OEM unlock switched on ? Did you try unlocking your bootloader using fastboot?
If you can't access the recovery because the bootloader keeps crashing, then you just hard bricked your phone and there is no way back
I was able to unlock the bootloader again, so I don't think all hope is lost.
SargeStryker said:
I was able to unlock the bootloader again, so I don't think all hope is lost.
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If that is the case follow the instructions on the official website:
https://developers.google.com/android/images
Colday96 said:
If that is the case follow the instructions on the official website:
https://developers.google.com/android/images
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Thank you so much!
I lock bootloader on Verizon Google Pixel when my device have TWRP and i have brick! Device Loading up to logo Google on 1 sec and reboot. Fastboot work, but i don't unlock bootloader. In recovery is don't enter. Please help me!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/how-to/psa-read-relocking-bootloader-t3494614 ....very important advice. With my limited knowledge NEVER relock unless you have signed OEM images correctly reloaded into device before locking.
kkjb said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/how-to/psa-read-relocking-bootloader-t3494614 ....very important advice. With my limited knowledge NEVER relock unless you have signed OEM images correctly reloaded into device before locking.
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There is still no solution to this problem? ((
Unlock again.
lafester said:
Unlock again.
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how can I unlock it now?
I already wrote to a man who used to be for money unlocked Verizon bootloader, but he says "No solution for this problem yet"
Groh12 said:
how can I unlock it now?
I already wrote to a man who used to be for money unlocked Verizon bootloader, but he says "No solution for this problem yet"
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Put the phone in fastboot mode, then run `fastboot flashing unlock` from a PC. If it says unlocking not allowed, you're out of luck, it's a brick now. Never lock your phone without being 100% stock on both slots
Groh12 said:
how can I unlock it now?
I already wrote to a man who used to be for money unlocked Verizon bootloader, but he says "No solution for this problem yet"
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No idea. I've never relocked unless I am completely stock and take at least one ota first to make sure, along with full factory resets before and after updating.
There are others here that claim they where able to unlock again and save their phones though so maybe it's possible.
lafester said:
No idea. I've never relocked unless I am completely stock and take at least one ota first to make sure, along with full factory resets before and after updating.
There are others here that claim they where able to unlock again and save their phones though so maybe it's possible.
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In this topic https://forum.xda-developers.com/pi...bootloader-t3540772/post77016940#post77016940 man has unbrick Pixel XL, but i think that method will work on Pixel.
All question in title
sokilo said:
All question in title
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Do not try to lock bootloader, it would brick your device
max395993 said:
Do not try to lock bootloader, it would brick your device
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Understand, but is there a method to use google pay with unlocked bootloader and without root?
sokilo said:
Understand, but is there a method to use google pay with unlocked bootloader and without root?
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Apparently you are out of luck without root, but if you want to do one thing from relocking bootloader and rooting, rooting would be easier.
Also if you brick your device you would still have options if you have unlocked bootloader.