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Hangouts doesn't show online/offline/busy statuses, and I use Google Talk for chatting, so Hangouts is fairly useless to me. I rooted, used Titanium Backup to uninstall Hangouts, and installed the attached APK. I imagine if you allow it to update, you'll end up with Hangouts again, so don't allow it to update.
patrickoneal said:
Hangouts doesn't show online/offline/busy statuses, and I use Google Talk for chatting, so Hangouts is fairly useless to me. I rooted, used Titanium Backup to uninstall Hangouts, and installed the attached APK. I imagine if you allow it to update, you'll end up with Hangouts again, so don't allow it to update.
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You do realise that this will stop working shortly. They were only keeping the old talk api's onl;inme for a few months. Hangouts does show who is online and offline btw. The icon is greyd out if offline, not if online, simples.
IIIIkoolaidIIII said:
You do realise that this will stop working shortly. They were only keeping the old talk api's onl;inme for a few months. Hangouts does show who is online and offline btw. The icon is greyd out if offline, not if online, simples.
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Yes but it isn't sorted, it should be sorted by online/offline of friends who you've actually chatted with THEN everyone else. Hangouts doesn't do that and is inferior hence why most of us are hanging on to gtalk. I'll probably just switch full time to trillian if they don't sort out the sorting issue on Hangouts.
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Ok, get your point, though it's not really a big issue. You do realise that trillian will stop working the same time as G talk does as they will close of the protocol it uses.
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IIIIkoolaidIIII said:
You do realise that this will stop working shortly. They were only keeping the old talk api's onl;inme for a few months. Hangouts does show who is online and offline btw. The icon is greyd out if offline, not if online, simples.
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Thanks for the heads up, I was unaware of that. I'll continue using it until it stops working, I'm sure others prefer it as well.
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Hangouts doesn't show online/offline/busy statuses, and I use Google Talk for chatting, so Hangouts is fairly useless to me. I rooted, used Titanium Backup to uninstall Hangouts, and installed the attached APK. I imagine if you allow it to update, you'll end up with Hangouts again, so don't allow it to update.
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I was also disappointed about not seeing the status when I switched to Hangouts. Apparently, so were many people and Google definitely got the message. It looks like the new Hangouts brought back (or is bringing back) the feature, though I haven't checked it out yet.
http://thenextweb.com/google/2013/0...ntact-categories-and-option-to-hide-contacts/
Watch out
patrickoneal said:
Thanks for the heads up, I was unaware of that. I'll continue using it until it stops working, I'm sure others prefer it as well.
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By the way, there are very recent reports (within the last day) of a problem using the old Google Talk. Supposedly, it has been resolved, but the issue was basically that it may have been sending messages to the wrong recipient. (Yup, that's a bad one.)
So, "...it appears to largely affect Google Talk users who have not yet upgraded to Google’s new Hangouts service."
http://rootzwiki.com/news/google-talk-comes-back-vengeance-misdirects-hangouts-messages/
So i created a backup of hangouts, then uninstalled through titanium back-up and then installed your APK however it wouldn't show up in my app drawer anymore. Is there a reason for that?
I've installed ChompSMS, but when I go into Settings - Wireless & Networks - Default SMS app - only Hangouts is listed. I've tried rebooting the phone, but still nothing. Does ChompSMS need to be updated so it'll show up on this list? Is there another way to make it the default app?
Thanks!
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I've installed ChompSMS, but when I go into Settings - Wireless & Networks - Default SMS app - only Hangouts is listed. I've tried rebooting the phone, but still nothing. Does ChompSMS need to be updated so it'll show up on this list? Is there another way to make it the default app?
Thanks!
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I got this problem too :silly:
It needs updating with 4.4 support.
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It needs updating with 4.4 support.
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What he said lol.
There are particular parameters that an app has to have in 4.4 for Hangouts to recognise it as an SMS app.
What the others said.
Long-winded answer:
Basically, before 4.4, there was no such thing as an "SMS app" on Android. Apps like ChompSMS didn't actually directly receive and process SMSes. They listened for SMS received events and intercepted the SMS message as it went into the default SMS app. This was an incredibly hacky method, would cause weird issues (like you'd get notifications from two SMS apps), and wasn't at all supported officially by Google.
Now in 4.4, they added the ability for apps to act as proper replacements for SMS. But they must stop using the old APIs/intents and use the new 4.4 APIs to do this. If/when the app developer does this, then you'll see it as an option.
I have the same issue you too and have been unable to find any SMS 'app' that can be set as the default.... Anyone have any success?
I've tried - Chomp, Now and Textra and none are 'selectable'!
Thanks.
coops9999 said:
I have the same issue you too and have been unable to find any SMS 'app' that can be set as the default.... Anyone have any success?
I've tried - Chomp, Now and Textra and none are 'selectable'!
Thanks.
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Tried those and 8sms. No joy ;(
Handcent works
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This is what you need:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512414&page=3
Works flawlessly.
I emailed the developer last week and got a reply to say a fixed version would be out this week. It's not out at the time of writing this post, but on the Google Play website someone gave it a 1 star review for not working on the Nexus 5 and one of the devs replied to say "It's fixed. Please email us with the subject line NOT FAQ." Maybe they are sending people an APK if they email them?
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Tried those and 8sms. No joy ;(
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8sms absolutely does work, make sure you have the most updated version from the Play Store and then go to Settings>More... (under Wireless & Networks), then tap Default SMS app and change to 'Messaging', which is 8sms. Could not recommend this app higher.
I just got a reply from the developer. They are supposedly releasing a version that's compatible with the Nexus 5/Android 4.4 today. They also linked me to a beta version that works, although I haven't tested it: -
http://www.chompsms.com/beta/chompsms-kitkat.apk
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I just got a reply from the developer. They are supposedly releasing a version that's compatible with the Nexus 5/Android 4.4 today. They also linked me to a beta version that works, although I haven't tested it: -
http://www.chompsms.com/beta/chompsms-kitkat.apk
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Thanks for the link! Working great on my Nexus 5 now. This is version 5.89, the version on the Play Store was released Nov 12 and is v5.88.
Chomp user here too, though when I installed the beta it didn't seem to have notifications turned on by default, so I missed a few texts. Worth checking if you install it.
Version 5.89 has been released to the Play Store, has KitKat compatibility.
Anyone know how to get the old stock email app working on pixel? I've installed an old apk but as soon as I try and open it, it says to use Gmail and points me that way. Makes me feel like I'm using an iPhone.
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bacon612 said:
Anyone know how to get the old stock email app working on pixel? I've installed an old all but as soon as I try and open it, it says to use Gmail and points me that way. Makes me feel like I'm using an iPhone.
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I just got my phone set up yesterday. Are you saying there was a different default e-mail app on this phone at some point? Mine only came with the Gmail app. Seems strange to me to not have Gmail be the stock email app on a Google phone.
Doesn't exist anymore
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Doesn't exist anymore
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What this guy said. It's been phased out and its features have been moved to Gmail.
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I just got my phone set up yesterday. Are you saying there was a different default e-mail app on this phone at some point? Mine only came with the Gmail app. Seems strange to me to not have Gmail be the stock email app on a Google phone.
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laureanop said:
Doesn't exist anymore
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FoleyRose said:
What this guy said. It's been phased out and its features have been moved to Gmail.
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Wow. Thats too bad. Guess I'll have to wait for a custom rom to use it again. Its still in Cyanogenmod builds, maybe its in gapps. Anyhow, I really liked keeping it separate from gmail.
Yeah. You may be able to build it from source from CM but sounds like a pain.
bacon612 said:
Wow. Thats too bad. Guess I'll have to wait for a custom rom to use it again. Its still in Cyanogenmod builds, maybe its in gapps. Anyhow, I really liked keeping it separate from gmail.
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Why not just download another email app. Like Outlook, that one works well with all email accounts.
I'd strongly recommend K9 as an email app. Been using that since my G1 and it's still outstanding!
K9 or blue mail works great, I've used k9 for a long time, just switched over to blue, very hard to decide which one is the keeper ?
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These guys are not actually correct.
The "stock" email program STILL EXISTS, and in fact, is actually INSTALLED on Pixel devices from factory!
BUT, google has merged its UI into the GMAIL program.
So you have two options if you want to use the "stock" email program;
1) Set up your IMAP email account through the GMAIL program,
2) DISABLE the gmail program, and guess what happens? The "email" program launcher icon shows up in your launcher!
HOWEVER, it really is a much better idea to use k9mail instead. It is far more feature rich.
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These guys are not actually correct.
The "stock" email program STILL EXISTS, and in fact, is actually INSTALLED on Pixel devices from factory!
BUT, google has merged its UI into the GMAIL program.
So you have two options if you want to use the "stock" email program;
1) Set up your IMAP email account through the GMAIL program,
2) DISABLE the gmail program, and guess what happens? The "email" program launcher icon shows up in your launcher!
HOWEVER, it really is a much better idea to use k9mail instead. It is far more feature rich.
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Neat, I didn't know that! Still gonna use K9 myself but that's pretty cool!
Aquamail would be my recommendation for a mail app. Easily the best and easiest to use of the six or eight that I tried...
doitright said:
These guys are not actually correct.
The "stock" email program STILL EXISTS, and in fact, is actually INSTALLED on Pixel devices from factory!
BUT, google has merged its UI into the GMAIL program.
So you have two options if you want to use the "stock" email program;
1) Set up your IMAP email account through the GMAIL program,
2) DISABLE the gmail program, and guess what happens? The "email" program launcher icon shows up in your launcher!
HOWEVER, it really is a much better idea to use k9mail instead. It is far more feature rich.
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That's a good find but unfortunately doesn't work for me. My mail server wont play nice with the Gmail app so I can't even get it configured. I still tried to disable Gmail but didn't see the stock email app. I then installed a stock email apk and it installed but still gives me the same screen saying that Gmail is the new everything app
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NickJHP said:
Aquamail would be my recommendation for a mail app. Easily the best and easiest to use of the six or eight that I tried...
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Aquamail Pro is nice, arguably better than K9, although it was just acquired by MobiSystems so who knows how future updates are going to look. Large companies acquiring small, indie developer projects does not usually end well for the app.
Security-wise, Aquamail, K9 and Nine are about the only third-party apps I'd consider.
I know this thread is now almost 2 months old.
what I"m looking for is a mail app to keep my gmail separate from my 2 exchange emails - and it MUST integrate with a calendar widget.
I haven't found one that works best. I liked the old "Mail" app - I could left swipe to delete, right to options - all your reply, reply-all, forward options right at the top of each message, rather than the options dots.
Outlook won't get sucked into my Google Calendar.
our3rotts said:
I know this thread is now almost 2 months old.
what I"m looking for is a mail app to keep my gmail separate from my 2 exchange emails - and it MUST integrate with a calendar widget.
I haven't found one that works best. I liked the old "Mail" app - I could left swipe to delete, right to options - all your reply, reply-all, forward options right at the top of each message, rather than the options dots.
Outlook won't get sucked into my Google Calendar.
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Aquamail - I tried just about every top email app. Also needed it to support Calendar, works perfect. I use the paid version and can't imagine a more customizable Android email client. Absolutely outstanding. Extremely reliable too.
Use Nine for Exchange. I've been using it for years, best Android email client.
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Use Nine for Exchange. I've been using it for years, best Android email client.
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Yeah, definitely for Exchange. I still prefer K9 for IMAP (easy to have lots of aliases) but Nine is definitely where it's at for Exchange. Great integration to Calendar and more!
It seems that only the Lollipop branch of the stock email app 7.0-x is merged into Gmail. Earlier versions of the stock email app, targeted for KitKat like email app 6.3-x, are still working. I am on CM 11 and the fresh installed email app 6.3-1218562 seems functional and wants to be configured with an email account.
However, regarding security concerns it may be still better to use an alternative mail client like K9. I ask me now how that one performs on low-level phones with weak hardware. All these super-rich features of that nice K9 mailing app needs surely hardware power. I noticed a similar behavior also on more recent Gmail versions. These are far more hardware hungry then older ones. That's the reason why I like the stock email app, - it seems lightweight and fast.
For some reason I don't have it on my watch. Want there supposed to be an app for messages? I'm on the Wi-Fi version paired with the Google Pixel XL.
samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00061442/
I also dont have the messages app.... I'd like to know if it is regional or the phone version or some other reason...
I have a HTC one m8, Android v6.24
edmiller79 said:
samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00061442/
I also dont have the messages app.... I'd like to know if it is regional or the phone version or some other reason...
I have a HTC one m8, Android v6.24
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I believe you need a samsung phone to have the messages and email apps on the watch. It's one of the limited functions of using the Gear S3 with a non samsung phone.
You can use other messaging apps like Textra, they just don't fully work the same. You will get messages though.
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You can use other messaging apps like Textra, they just don't fully work the same. You will get messages though.
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Textra seems to be an s2 app. I cant find any messaging apps for s3.
Well it's not going to install on the watch either way. However Textra does work. Download it on your phone and enable notifications in Gear Manager. I know it works as I have used it. However unless you use stock Samsung apps you don't get full use of the app. It's the same thing I'm dealing with for emails. I hate the stock app, but can't fully use a substitute because that is how Samsung has designed the system to be.
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Well it's not going to install on the watch either way. However Textra does work. Download it on your phone and enable notifications in Gear Manager. I know it works as I have used it. However unless you use stock Samsung apps you don't get full use of the app. It's the same thing I'm dealing with for emails. I hate the stock app, but can't fully use a substitute because that is how Samsung has designed the system to be.
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Ahhh I see. Yes, have found that gmail allows notifications to be replied to and read whereas the android mail app only allows a short preview/header of emails with no reply option.
Try Bluemail email app. Shows full email. They're quick to respond and the phone app is very customizeable and full featured as any email app.
Aqua Mail also has a setting for Smart Watch Enhancement which includes Gear.
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Well it's not going to install on the watch either way. However Textra does work. Download it on your phone and enable notifications in Gear Manager. I know it works as I have used it. However unless you use stock Samsung apps you don't get full use of the app. It's the same thing I'm dealing with for emails. I hate the stock app, but can't fully use a substitute because that is how Samsung has designed the system to be.
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I tried this and it worked a handful of times yesterday. Somehow I am not receiving notifications anymore from Textra and I am getting prompted to switch to the stock messaging app. Any idea why this is happening? Any recommendations on a solution/s? Thanks!
Fozzee1970 said:
I believe you need a samsung phone to have the messages and email apps on the watch. It's one of the limited functions of using the Gear S3 with a non samsung phone.
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not true... I have a mate 9 and have the stock message app on my watch.
gear s3
Is it possible to trick the samsung default messaging app to show all your texts and let the watch show you messages while in reality I would actually be using textra as the default app?
same boat here... using the new galaxy watch with pixel 2 XL. would love to get a messaging app on the watch.
Oneplus messaging app was so great because it was simply and working without much fuss, now it's google messages, spammy AF! I need the old messaging back! Any ideas?
Recorder app come in handy too. Why they did deleted these apps? Plus the facebook thing on the 8, Oneplus becoming corrupt...
Edit: Dialer is out too. The new one is horrible. Contact editing is so confusing.
SOLUTION: https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...how-to-oneplus-dialer-call-recording-t4189165
- Set oneplus dialer as default before disabling google dialer.
They don't have Facebook pre-installed on the 8T. Honest I never used the Google messenger. Always used textra on all my android phones. And for then caller I sue the stock Google one.
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how to oneplus messaging and recorder apps?
I had one additionally 5 and the informing app had a organizer called Notices. so all theese OTP related messages, spam mesaages will go in there. Made life simple. I fair bought 8T and looks OnePlus has
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They don't have Facebook pre-installed on the 8T.
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At least that!...
I think i've used textra in the past. Too spammy. Oneplus was so perfectly clean and functional.
sansanc said:
Oneplus messaging app was so great because it was simply and working without much fuss, now it's google messages, spammy AF! I need the old messaging back! Any ideas?
Recorder app come in handy too. Why they did deleted these apps? Plus the facebook thing on the 8, Oneplus becoming corrupt...
Edit: Dialer is out too. The new one is horrible. Contact editing is so confusing.
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They have it installed on the tmo version. Backed it up in titanium and uploaded it here, hope it works
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-JI0qCqgLKB1uKwmTYAYIqp35oIiRHZT/view?usp=drivesdk
no way to go back to those apps . i feel you .
btw they deprecated the SIP settings as well because of the google dialer
cala2ar said:
no way to go back to those apps . i feel you .
btw they deprecated the SIP settings as well because of the google dialer
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Solution:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...how-to-oneplus-dialer-call-recording-t4189165