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Hello guys,
As you know we are able to force 90hz for all apps. Not always it's a good idea because of :
- battery reason
- Google maps issues
- games which are not "high end" to avoid high battery usage (games like poker and so on does not need 90hz)
I wanted to ask some developers if they can create an application which can be configured themselve (black list for all apps which should not run in 90hz for example)
Thanks so.much (this would.be a reason to root if it requires root).
Put it on auto and let it manage itself or install gravitybox and you can change refresh rate from the quick-settings tile.
trapcoder666 said:
Put it on auto and let it manage itself or install gravitybox and you can change refresh rate from the quick-settings tile.
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Really ?
If I root and use gravity box I can change it for every app?
manutoxic said:
Really ?
If I root and use gravity box I can change it for every app?
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Well, you need to swipe down your quick settings and click the refresh rate tile. So, it's not automated but at least it makes things easier.
trapcoder666 said:
Well, you need to swipe down your quick settings and click the refresh rate tile. So, it's not automated but at least it makes things easier.
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I Wish there would be an application to configure it app by apl
manutoxic said:
I Wish there would be an application to configure it app by apl
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No but JOnePlus Tool lets you just turn it on and off with a single button on the fly. Just open the app and it's on the main screen there.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.jroot3d.joneplustools&hl=en_US
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79813631&postcount=78
I also use the forced 90hz all apps and the battery drain from this is seriously overblown. People scream about what they know nothing about. People need to educate themselves before making claims. They just say it kills battery without even trying it. I did nothing different, changed nothing and used my phone the same way I normally do and it made a difference of an increase of .7% battery drain with the screen on compared to 90hz on auto. It went from 6.3% drain pet hour to 7.0% per hour of screen on time. And since I've gotten days with 6.1% with it on forced 90hz all apps. So the difference isn't of and significance. Just try it and if you don't like it, switch it back. You'll find it makes no real difference when using it.
So there really should not be a need to blacklist 90hz all apps for just certain apps imo
Im sure someone could setup a tasker profile for this reason.
equlizer said:
Im sure someone could setup a tasker profile for this reason.
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I did in 2 posts above that was linked, also its in the guides section.
I wish we could have possibility to decide to run some apps in 90hz and another in 60 hz.
For instance I wish KODI could run in 60hz.
netgar said:
I wish we could have possibility to decide to run some apps in 90hz and another in 60 hz.
For instance I wish KODI could run in 60hz.
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here is my guide
If you need some help setting it up let me know. This will let u choose which apps use 60Hz and others will force 90Hz
Any possibility without buying tasker?
I switch to maps, display switched to 60, I turned off maps and display still remains 60. Didn't switch to 90.
Thats the way that should work? I need to manually switch to 90?
netgar said:
I switch to maps, display switched to 60, I turned off maps and display still remains 60. Didn't switch to 90.
Thats the way that should work? I need to manually switch to 90?
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Not sure what your setup is exactly but if you're running the forced 90hz for all apps it is a bug that it shows as 60hz in the OOS setting under display. So if the tasker profile you are using switches from 90hz all apps and back to 60hz then your display setting will basically always show 60hz.
You can use this to test what your refresh rate is currently, either 60 or 90hz
https://www.testufo.com/
manutoxic said:
Any possibility without buying tasker?
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we cannot provide you that info on here... google may be ur friend on how to go about doing that.
Eric214 said:
Not sure what your setup is exactly but if you're running the forced 90hz for all apps it is a bug that it shows as 60hz in the OOS setting under display. So if the tasker profile you are using switches from 90hz all apps and back to 60hz then your display setting will basically always show 60hz.
You can use this to test what your refresh rate is currently, either 60 or 90hz
https://www.testufo.com/
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I don't use forsed 90hz all apps.
Ones I shut off maps I need to manually switch display back to 90hz.
no issues with maps at 90hz here. Strange as some do.
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So you want somebody to develop an app for your needs but won't pay for it?
I just found an app called Auto90. You can select which app you want to be auto/60 or 90hz. It's wonderful!
Has anyone figure method(s) to Force 120Hz display yet ? The dynamic refresh rate in both auto and 120Hz mode is now, the only thing on this phone bothers me so much.
EU rom (under display and brightness) has the option to choose : "Auto Select"; "120Hz" or "60Hz" in Screen Refresh Rate
BlueMeany68 said:
EU rom (under display and brightness) has the option to choose : "Auto Select"; "120Hz" or "60Hz" in Screen Refresh Rate
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That's true, however, OP points out the fact that even at "120 Hz" setting the phone does some sort of battery saving stuff like optimizing the refresh rate based on applications used, battery level etc.
Which is not a bad thing, don't get me wrong - saving battery when the app (or user) don't benefit from 120 Hz setting is a pretty useful stuff. But then it should not be called "120 Hz" mode but rather "Light Adaptive mode" or something.
Btw Oneplus 8 Pro has even more aggressive approach to this, it literally switches to 60 Hz when you don't touch the screen, back to 120 Hz for two seconds when you touch the screen and then reverts to 60 Hz.
This is the reason why Oneplus 8 Pro is so good in all 120 Hz battery drain tests because, basically... it almost never runs it. This should not be called 120 Hz even though I fully appreciate the battery saving mechanism.
You can check here whether Oppo Find X2 Pro stays at 120 Hz (fps) or switches to 60 Hz right after you touch it like Oneplus: https://www.testufo.com
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That's true, however, OP points out the fact that even at "120 Hz" setting the phone does some sort of battery saving stuff like optimizing the refresh rate based on applications used, battery level etc.
Which is not a bad thing, don't get me wrong - saving battery when the app (or user) don't benefit from 120 Hz setting is a pretty useful stuff. But then it should not be called "120 Hz" mode but rather "Light Adaptive mode" or something.
Btw Oneplus 8 Pro has even more aggressive approach to this, it literally switches to 60 Hz when you don't touch the screen, back to 120 Hz for two seconds when you touch the screen and then reverts to 60 Hz.
This is the reason why Oneplus 8 Pro is so good in all 120 Hz battery drain tests because, basically... it almost never runs it. This should not be called 120 Hz even though I fully appreciate the battery saving mechanism.
You can check here whether Oppo Find X2 Pro stays at 120 Hz (fps) or switches to 60 Hz right after you touch it like Oneplus: https://www.testufo.com
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Thanks for clarifying my point. In addition, OnePlus's high refresh rate displays can be forced to run at the constant value via ADB method but I have no clue for an OPPO's. I don't understand that why OPPO provides both 120Hz and auto refresh rate options but perform exactly the same.
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Thanks for clarifying my point. In addition, OnePlus's high refresh rate displays can be forced to run at the constant value via ADB method but I have no clue for an OPPO's. I don't understand that why OPPO provides both 120Hz and auto refresh rate options but perform exactly the same.
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Sorry if I misunderstood. I've used the website suggested and my x2 pro remains at 118-120hz throughout ?
BlueMeany68 said:
Sorry if I misunderstood. I've used the website suggested and my x2 pro remains at 118-120hz throughout ?
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Try it on browser like Microsoft Edge or Chrome Dev. Those browsers are limited at 60Hz while I can force run my OnePlus 8's at 90Hz all time via ADB.
MaKuRoZuMK2 said:
Has anyone figure method(s) to Force 120Hz display yet ? The dynamic refresh rate in both auto and 120Hz mode is now, the only thing on this phone bothers me so much.
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I try something via adb
adb shell settings list secure
And I found this
coloros_screen_refresh_rate=3
3 = 120hz
2=60hz
0=Auto
But I cant put any number because android.permission.WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS not granted
Maybe, just maybe, if you can put it to another number ( like 1 or 4 ), you can force 120hz on Oppo Find X2/X2Pro
BIBUBO BCJ said:
I try something via adb
adb shell settings list secure
And I found this
coloros_screen_refresh_rate=3
3 = 120hz
2=60hz
0=Auto
But I cant put any number because android.permission.WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS not granted
Maybe, just maybe, if you can put it to another number ( like 1 or 4 ), you can force 120hz on Oppo Find X2/X2Pro
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Tried this, was able to put both 1 and 4 and unfortunately, it's not forced at 120Hz. Now it's the dead end haha.
MaKuRoZuMK2 said:
Tried this, was able to put both 1 and 4 and unfortunately, it's not forced at 120Hz. Now it's the dead end haha.
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ps. 1 is fake 90Hz mode and I have no idea with 4 and beyond.
ps.2 you have to disable permission monitoring in dev options first in order to set those settings.
MaKuRoZuMK2 said:
ps. 1 is fake 90Hz mode and I have no idea with 4 and beyond.
ps.2 you have to disable permission monitoring in dev options first in order to set those settings.
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Oh I really forgot that option :cyclops:
BTW, There's some command like auto_switch and frozen_time, while Find X2/X2 Pro are using an adaptive 120hz, so any ideas ?
BIBUBO BCJ said:
Oh I really forgot that option :cyclops:
BTW, There's some command like auto_switch and frozen_time, while Find X2/X2 Pro are using an adaptive 120hz, so any ideas ?
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Will try that as soon as I can
Sad that a 120hz phone only runs 120hz in a few apps, my Moto edge is 90hz in almost every app as I can see, Razer phone was 120hz in every app or you could force an app to run 120hz if it wasn't already, sad
If you want 120Hz in more apps you have to enable O1 Ultra Vision on 120Hz. 1080p only though.
That will make apps like IG smoother and YT in 120Hz.
Jordytjes said:
If you want 120Hz in more apps you have to enable O1 Ultra Vision on 120Hz. 1080p only though.
That will make apps like IG smoother and YT in 120Hz.
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And I have to sacrifice that 2K resolution on my display
Working around for those options
BIBUBO BCJ said:
Oh I really forgot that option :cyclops:
BTW, There's some command like auto_switch and frozen_time, while Find X2/X2 Pro are using an adaptive 120hz, so any ideas ?
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Update, I tried to config those two commands with no success
hope to run 120hz every app
Most apps are not optimized for running at 120hz yet, it's down to individual apps, when you set it to auto only the user interface and oppos apps run at 120 but all other apps run at 60, basically some apps do some apps don't , not oppos fault
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If you want 120Hz in more apps you have to enable O1 Ultra Vision on 120Hz. 1080p only though.
That will make apps like IG smoother and YT in 120Hz.
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The ultra vision only adds frames on to the video that your playing that's all, doesn't smooth out the actual app
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Most apps are not optimized for running at 120hz yet, it's down to individual apps, when you set it to auto only the user interface and oppos apps run at 120 but all other apps run at 60, basically some apps do some apps don't , not oppos fault
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The ultra vision only adds frames on to the video that your playing that's all, doesn't smooth out the actual app
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That is not true. YT is normally only 60Hz to save battery for example. With O1 it has to be on 120Hz as the actual video is also interpolated to 120Hz. Try it out for your self.
We mean 120hz scrolling/animations within an app, not video playback
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We mean 120hz scrolling/animations within an app, not video playback
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Hi all, wondered if you could shed some light on this situation, I'm not sure if it's my device UK or a software issue. So when I select 120hz some apps are not silky smooth when scrolling like YouTube for example, it's not true 120hz it's as though it's on auto adjust, but it isn't, home screen and some apps are 120hz but some apps aren't is this a app issue or a phone issue? Has anyone else experienced this?
Not all applications support 120hz, Google Maps comes to mind, pretty sure that's capped at 60hz, I remember reading a article about YouTube not supporting 90hz on OnePlus devices, maybe the YouTube application is also called out at 60hz, I'd confidently say it's probably the app rather than the phone
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Hi all, wondered if you could shed some light on this situation, I'm not sure if it's my device UK or a software issue. So when I select 120hz some apps are not silky smooth when scrolling like YouTube for example, it's not true 120hz it's as though it's on auto adjust, but it isn't, home screen and some apps are 120hz but some apps aren't is this a app issue or a phone issue? Has anyone else experienced this?
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Its app specific, some apps have no caps some do
I have this issue too.
It seems like whenever a video is playing in whatever app, it will switch to 60Hz.
In Reddit for example, scrolling is very laggy.
If your refresh rate mode is set to auto, ColorOS decides what refresh rate to run on based on a list found at /system/etc/refresh_rate_config.xml
If you set the refresh rate mode to 120Hz, though, it should run at that refresh rate in most apps.
Jordytjes said:
I have this issue too.
It seems like whenever a video is playing in whatever app, it will switch to 60Hz.
In Reddit for example, scrolling is very laggy.
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Same here, is pretty annoying because takes away all the smoothness feeling, although sometimes it doesn't happen and keeps working at 120hz, so random... Just wondering did you find anyway to avoid this to happen?
Hi,
anyone noticing lag in the rotation animation? Most of the time the first time is pretty smooth. When changing rotation a few times thereafter the animations look more like 60 fps (although 120 is activated). Tried it in different apps. Always the same and really annoying and ugly.
Can anybody confirm this?
This issue goes way back. Even my 10+ does it.
Might have to do with the sensor refresh rate and/or degree of tilt/time at tilt/yaw.
If it takes more then a second there's definitely a fault issue.
Mmh. Actually I didn't recognize this when using my S20 with 120hz. At least not that much. So there's nothing that can improve the experience? I even thought the phone didn't have this behavior from the start which led to the question if I have something fishy installed. But there's nothing out of the ordinary. It's the same when using stock launcher or Ruthless launcher.
Be interested if there was a way to make it more responsive. This aspect of the device's behavior is slow by comparison to it's otherwise snappy performance. It is irritating... I hate waiting.
It's about .5-1 second on the N10+ in Brave browser and elsewhere.
I'm going to go through accessibility settings again. It's likely a user hidden setting though.
Have y'all dug into Developer Options & set the animation speeds to 0.5 (or 0)?
It might help some, if you haven't already done so. However, I've experienced it as well on occasion,getting "stuck", if you will.
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Have y'all dug into Developer Options & set the animation speeds to 0.5 (or 0)?
It might help some, if you haven't already done so. However, I've experienced it as well on occasion,getting "stuck", if you will.
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Yeap, no joy
KOLIOSIS said:
Have y'all dug into Developer Options & set the animation speeds to 0.5 (or 0)?
It might help some, if you haven't already done so. However, I've experienced it as well on occasion,getting "stuck", if you will.
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For me the problem is that it looks sluggish as if the phone struggles to display the 120 Hz. Setting the transition scale to 0.5 or 0 doesn't do it for me. Makes it even more unsatisfying.
Cris7ianO said:
For me the problem is that it looks sluggish as if the phone struggles to display the 120 Hz. Setting the transition scale to 0.5 or 0 doesn't do it for me. Makes it even more unsatisfying.
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It has nothing to do with your refresh rate or does it? It so there may be some hope.
Like I said though both my N10+'s behave this way, it's normal... and irritating.
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It has nothing to do with your refresh rate or does it? It so there may be some hope.
Like I said though both my N10+'s behave this way, it's normal... and irritating.
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Honestly it looks like the phone is struggling to keep it on 120hz when rotating. When I choose 60hz and rotate the phone it looks the same way constantly. That's why I'm thinking it has something to do with the frame rate. So in my case it's not about a delay for the animation it's about the smoothness.
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Honestly it looks like the phone is struggling to keep it on 120hz when rotating. When I choose 60hz and rotate the phone it looks the same way constantly. That's why I'm thinking it has something to do with the frame rate. So in my case it's not about a delay for the animation it's about the smoothness.
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What I'm talking about is how long it takes to flip the screen to landscape once the phone's flipped. Close to 1 second.
I always disable all animations as it wastes resources plus I like the snap.
Lol, if it needs animations, it's too slow.
Cris7ianO said:
Hi,
anyone noticing lag in the rotation animation? Most of the time the first time is pretty smooth. When changing rotation a few times thereafter the animations look more like 60 fps (although 120 is activated). Tried it in different apps. Always the same and really annoying and ugly.
Can anybody confirm this?
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Sounds like something might be bogging it down.
I have the obligatory delay when rotating (because you have a ton of redraws happening on top of the actual animation itself, not some accessibility setting), but it is minimal. That aside, the rotation is smooth with animation set to 0.5 and adaptive motion smoothness.
The difference between your previous S20, my previous Note 20, and the Z Flip 3 is the lost RAM. This is an 8GB device, compared to 12GB or 16GB from last year. After some time getting used to being able to launch a bunch of stuff, it is easy to forget that this one can't run quite as much at once.
The only sure way to stop that completely without having to keep tabs on how much is running would be Developer options -> Don't keep activities or setting Background process limit, both of which come with some downsides.
If it is happening with a single app running after multiple turns, that could indicate an issue with the GPU. It could be as simple as poor cache handling that will be resolved with an update or a clean start. It could also be a hardware issue.
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Sounds like something might be bogging it down.
I have the obligatory delay when rotating (because you have a ton of redraws happening on top of the actual animation itself, not some accessibility setting), but it is minimal. That aside, the rotation is smooth with animation set to 0.5 and adaptive motion smoothness.
The difference between your previous S20, my previous Note 20, and the Z Flip 3 is the lost RAM. This is an 8GB device, compared to 12GB or 16GB from last year. After some time getting used to being able to launch a bunch of stuff, it is easy to forget that this one can't run quite as much at once.
The only sure way to stop that completely without having to keep tabs on how much is running would be Developer options -> Don't keep activities or setting Background process limit, both of which come with some downsides.
If it is happening with a single app running after multiple turns, that could indicate an issue with the GPU. It could be as simple as poor cache handling that will be resolved with an update or a clean start. It could also be a hardware issue.
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This sounds like a reasonable explanation to me. The S20 with 12 GB indeed hadn't any of those issues, at least not to that extent. In addition I don't have that issue permanently. It only occurs from time to time. Haven't got an update since release. Hopefully it gets an improvement in the near future as it is disturbing. Nevertheless it is a joke that something like that happens even with 8 GB of RAM.
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This sounds like a reasonable explanation to me. The S20 with 12 GB indeed hadn't any of those issues, at least not to that extent. In addition I don't have that issue permanently. It only occurs from time to time. Haven't got an update since release. Hopefully it gets an improvement in the near future as it is disturbing. Nevertheless it is a joke that something like that happens even with 8 GB of RAM.
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Do you use split screen apps? The only time i've really come across the issue was trying to run both a game and the browser with a couple other apps still in the background.
I think an update will definitely help, though. It seems like the 8GB on this is a larger step down than it should be right now and it is supposed to be a much better GPU.
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Do you use split screen apps? The only time i've really come across the issue was trying to run both a game and the browser with a couple other apps still in the background.
I think an update will definitely help, though. It seems like the 8GB on this is a larger step down than it should be right now and it is supposed to be a much better GPU.
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No, I don't really use split screen apps. Hopefully an update will help. The device definitely has some obvious tradeoffs but in general it feels fresh and I really like it.
Just an update from my side: Indeed my inner feeling wasn't wrong. I just encountered the sluggish rotation again. Thereafter I went to developer settings and enabled show refresh rate. I went back and tried rotation again. The first time all is fine and it shows 120, but the times thereafter it jumped to 60 Hz when rotating. And if course my eyes will notice this behavior as they are used to 120. Hopefully this will get fixed. This has to be software related.
So this behavior is due to the adaptive refresh rate. It's there a way to force 120 all the time?
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Just an update from my side: Indeed my inner feeling wasn't wrong. I just encountered the sluggish rotation again. Thereafter I went to developer settings and enabled show refresh rate. I went back and tried rotation again. The first time all is fine and it shows 120, but the times thereafter it jumped to 60 Hz when rotating. And if course my eyes will notice this behavior as they are used to 120. Hopefully this will get fixed. This has to be software related.
So this behavior is due to the adaptive refresh rate. It's there a way to force 120 all the time?
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[App]Galaxy Max Hz (Refresh Rate Mods, Screen-off Mods, QS Tiles, Tasker Support and More)
About this app: Refresh Rate Control: Easily control the max refresh rate (Hz) of android devices with multiple refresh rates (e.g. note20 ultra, s20/S20+/S20Ultra, z fold 2, s21/s21+/s21Ultra, tab S7/S7+, z fold 3, z flip 3). This app can limit...
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Pretty sure that would be able to handle it for you.
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[App]Galaxy Max Hz (Refresh Rate Mods, Screen-off Mods, QS Tiles, Tasker Support and More)
About this app: Refresh Rate Control: Easily control the max refresh rate (Hz) of android devices with multiple refresh rates (e.g. note20 ultra, s20/S20+/S20Ultra, z fold 2, s21/s21+/s21Ultra, tab S7/S7+, z fold 3, z flip 3). This app can limit...
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Pretty sure that would be able to handle it for you.
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I tried this app and I am not fully satisfied with the outcome. Of course forcing 120hz will train the small battery even more and I don't want to be dependant on a 3rd party solution. Just to confirm the behavior is not only on my end, can you please test the following on your device?
1. Go to developer options and enable show refresh rate
2. Go in following apps: e.g. Whatsapp, Facebook, Google Play, Samsung Internet, Amazon Shopping (cause I don't face this issue on all apps)
3. In each app wait a few seconds four the refresh rate to go down to 60 and then rotate the screen (In my case the refresh rate stays at 60 when rotating in the mentioned apps and this looks horrible when the rest is running on 120hz)
If you could borrow a few minutes of your time to check that would be awesome and is very appreciated Thanks in advance!
Update: Just to be sure I did a factory reset. Still no improvement...
Further investigation gave me more information. There is something weird going on. When display brightness is low (around 10-15%) there is no issue for the phone keeping 120 while rotating. When I go up in brightness the 60hz rotation is back again. This is horrible. I've had a look on the new iPhone 13 pro and Apple doesn't have these issues with their adaptive screen. As I had the S20 before and skipped the s21 with the adaptive one this Flip is my first Samsung device with an adaptive screen. The experience is horrible. I just want a compact android device without such a compromise. This is ridiculous.
Hello, I recently discovered the SetEdit app. I didn't use it yet because I'm trying to understand how it works first, what permission needs and what values can be added/modified and which can't.
Seeing some videos and reading the few things I could find about it online I started wondering if it was possible to add to this phone the option to lower the refresh rate when displaying a static image like most phones with high refresh rate displays can.
I know the Edge 30 Pro switches to 48Hz while viewing the AOD. So ideally I would set it to lower the refresh rate to 48Hz when viewing static content and pick back up once I touch the display.
Do you know if there's a line I could add that might make it work? Do I need to do any further modifications to the phone to modify the "system table"?
I'm still on Android 12 on the device and it's mostly an AOSP ROM with some additions, nothing too crazy.
I would've post this on the main forum for the phone, but it's pretty much dead and, for now, it's basically just me constantly posting about the issues with the Android 13 update I gather from other parts of the internet.
Thanks!
Have you tried the Galaxy MaxHz app? Although it's mainly designed for Samsung phones, it also works on the 30 Pro. You can adjust it so that the screen refreshes as low as 48hz when you're not using it. Worst part is that you have to pay for premium go have everything enabled, but it's less than 2 bucks and it's completely worth it imo. It works on Android 13, too.