Hi,
I have Poco X2 and been using it for more than a month. I notice more temperatures even when not gaming and I saw some people got temperature warnings while using camera for more time. Realme X2 and Poco X2 have same chipsets but i see realme phone doesnt gets heat even while gaming and this poco also has LIQUID COOLING(whats the point of it). Is this software or hardware issue?. Can I believe that this issue be fixed after good software update?
It's one or two cases my phone never heats up, i play pubg on hdr settings (taking advantage of hdr display) and its warm to touch but never reached uncomfortable levels.
vivek12341 said:
Hi,
I have Poco X2 and been using it for more than a month. I notice more temperatures even when not gaming and I saw some people got temperature warnings while using camera for more time. Realme X2 and Poco X2 have same chipsets but i see realme phone doesnt gets heat even while gaming and this poco also has LIQUID COOLING(whats the point of it). Is this software or hardware issue?. Can I believe that this issue be fixed after good software update?
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yes it does heat up quite often. i feel it heats up more than other phones with same config. if i play a little or watch youtube while chagring it gets approx 40 degrees or even more. Dont know how they implemented the cooling system but its definetly doesnt work
Hi, I am thinking to buy x3 Pro, but at first i want to know if all problems are already fixed.
I read a lot of comments about problems, but most of these comments are 3+ months old, so...
1) under load it gets very hot. Throttling...
Just by running Antutu benchmark few times, you see how score drops over 100K.
2) Touch issues
3) lags in games, Laggy UI, delay when scrolling
4) fast battery drain
5) network Issues, unstable data connection
6) unexpected shutdowns, screen freezes
7) back panel vibration when audio is playing
There are more, but these are most common.
I hope most of these problems come from their "amazing" MiUI, and can be fixed.
I can only confirm point 7 but it's not so noticable unless you are banging music at high volume.
No heat issues but then i'm not running Antutu over and over. No touch issues here but some people mentioned it. Laggy UI? First time hearing this lmao. It's butter smooth even on MIUI. I get 3 days of battery life with 10h SoT on average with 120Hz, i dont think it's bad.. plus i'm using navigation (GPS) and camera quite abit, you can probably get more than that easily. Never had any network or random shutdown issues (almost 20 days uptime, since last update of ArrowOS) probably some people with magisk / mods reported it.
k3lcior said:
I can only confirm point 7 but it's not so noticable unless you are banging music at high volume.
No heat issues but then i'm not running Antutu over and over. No touch issues here but some people mentioned it. Laggy UI? First time hearing this lmao. It's butter smooth even on MIUI. I get 3 days of battery life with 10h SoT on average with 120Hz, i dont think it's bad.. plus i'm using navigation (GPS) and camera quite abit, you can probably get more than that easily. Never had any network or random shutdown issues (almost 20 days uptime, since last update of ArrowOS) probably some people with magisk / mods reported it.
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I would agree, although I'm not going so good SoT (but since I'm a light user I still get very good battery life).
Never forget that people report issues, not good experiences. If you look at each indvividual grievance, you'll never buy any phone anyway
"i'm not running Antutu over and over"
It's just one of ways to put your phone under load and immediately see/compare results.
Many smartphone reviewers do this test to see if phone will throttle.
Check this video:
I found video where we can see x3 pro from inside.
On the left is x3 NFC and on the right x3 Pro.
Very interesting decision for x3 pro.
There is copper tape, instead of metallic plate.
Plus, you see that thermal paste is only on memory (3x pro).
If they don't use paste and there is not enough pressure then heat will not be dissipated by pipe.
And here you can see how much they use thermal paste between tape and pipe.
3 small lines on CPU and a bit for memory.
Just look how much more contact surface is on x3 NFC.
Now i understand why x3 pro is so hot.
If your x3 pro is not hot, then you are lucky (there is enough pressure/paste).
If you are not lucky, then idk. It's faulty phone.
1. Yes, the phone gets really hot, but that is only while gaming, especially when on mobile data. I just bought a cheap cooler and everything is fine
2. I had problems on AncientOS only, now on Crdroid i dont have it
3. Games dont lag, ofc u cant play Genshin Impact maxed out, but overall the gaming experience is smooth. On Crdroid i have no problems with scrolling, but i also use Samsung Browser and Relay for Reddit, Chrome and Reddit app were laggy even on custom roms
4. Battery drain is a problem of MIUI, on custom roms i get 8-10h of screen time from 100-20%, but i feel like i should get more than 2-3h of gaming
5. & 6. No problems
7. Yes, the back of the phone vibrates while listening at max volume, which is to be expected with how loud the speakers are and i dont see how this is a problem. Did the people who complain about this ever hold a speaker? Even overhead headphones vibrate while listening at high volume.
Pampam666 said:
but i feel like i should get more than 2-3h of gaming
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wait, only 2-3 hours of gaming and battery is empty?
"Yes, the phone gets really hot, but that is only while gaming"
I think we all will agree that it shouldn't be like this. Either Chipset is hotter than they expected and cooling solution used in older models can't handle it. In this case they had to slightly undervolt/downclock. Or they have huge % of faulty phones (cooling problem) and they simply close eyes on it.
But maybe it all goes by the plan. They know that chip will be hot, but it's fast and it's enough to get good sales.
Yes, its around that, but i mostly play CoD mobile and Wild Rift maxed out, so that might play into that.
I also agree that the cooling solution isn't that good to use this phone to the max and no update will ever fix it without a performance drop. Honestly this device would have been better suited with a SD855, the SD860 is too hot for the device, or at least the body of the phone didnt allow for a better cooling solution. But i guess they didnt want to have a 2 years old chip in a new phone, even if overall that would allow the phone to work faster for a longer period of time.
Pampam666 said:
7. Yes, the back of the phone vibrates while listening at max volume, which is to be expected with how loud the speakers are and i dont see how this is a problem. Did the people who complain about this ever hold a speaker? Even overhead headphones vibrate while listening at high volume.
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It's not normal. It's defect, same as cooling system.
Here you can see comparison with Redmi Note 10 Pro at max volume.
Being honest i really dont mind it, actually i enjoy it, the speakers feel powerful.
I feel many of the bugs described on first post and I find it a real shame what POCCO has done with this phone. Cheap phone? Yes! Powerfull? Yes! and... It works as expected? No!
On the other side, there are more than 10 different ROMs available for this phone and most of them are the same. Same bugs and same problems but with different skin.
I loved this phone but after see how it evolves, i feel like i did a bad investiment. Next time i will go for Realme.
new_member_2021 said:
Hi, I am thinking to buy x3 Pro, but at first i want to know if all problems are already fixed.
I read a lot of comments about problems, but most of these comments are 3+ months old, so...
1) under load it gets very hot. Throttling...
Just by running Antutu benchmark few times, you see how score drops over 100K.
2) Touch issues
3) lags in games, Laggy UI, delay when scrolling
4) fast battery drain
5) network Issues, unstable data connection
6) unexpected shutdowns, screen freezes
7) back panel vibration when audio is playing
There are more, but these are most common.
I hope most of these problems come from their "amazing" MiUI, and can be fixed.
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I had some of the these issues when I was on miui and before unlocking BL. Phone gets warm during gaming which is perfectly normal and on par with other phones.
I sold my galaxy note 10+ for poco x3 pro, it was the best decision I made this year. Gaming got better with no throttling on custom rom, more fluid, better battery life, native google ui.
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better battery life
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how many hours you can play games, or watch videos?
For example, on Realme 8 you can play pubg 6-7 hours (14%/h). On poco x3 pro, around 4 hours (23%/h) But can you squeeze 6+ gameplay hours from x3 pro on lower settings?
new_member_2021 said:
how many hours you can play games, or watch videos?
For example, on Realme 8 you can play pubg 6-7 hours (14%/h). On poco x3 pro, around 4 hours (23%/h) But can you squeeze 6+ gameplay hours from x3 pro on lower settings?
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I haven't tested that long prolonged gameplays. My comment was against my previous phones - galaxy note 10+ and black shark 2 and it easily lasts for 2 days for my usage. But 4 hrs in 23%/h is still a good life, isn't it? don't get killed yourself playing for so long
new_member_2021 said:
how many hours you can play games, or watch videos?
For example, on Realme 8 you can play pubg 7+ hours. Of course settings will be lower, but can you squeeze 7 gameplay hours from x3 pro (even on lower settings)?
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Pointless comparison, Realme 8 SoC is about twice slower. It's like comparing if Ferrari or Volkswagen Golf will empty their fuel tanks first. Ofcourse Ferrari will but there is a reason for that. Not to mention 120 vs 60 Hz screen.
k3lcior said:
Pointless comparison, Realme 8 SoC is about twice slower. It's like comparing if Ferrari or Volkswagen Golf will empty their fuel tanks first. Ofcourse Ferrari will but there is a reason for that. Not to mention 120 vs 60 Hz screen.
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Dude turn off this "protective" mode. I am not comparing, i am asking question.
I understand, you own this phone and it's most amazing thing you ever had.
"It's like comparing if Ferrari or Volkswagen Golf"
Reality is that there are more powerful phones on smaller batteries and they live way longer then poco x3 pro. For example poco F3 with 4520 mAh. Even if x3 pro has 5160 mAh, it's battery is empty at point where F3 has more then 20%. And both phones has 120Hz screens. Only difference is that F3 has amoled display.
k3lcior, i am asking question (it's not comparison): why F3 with smaller battery lives way longer? Is it because of amoled display? Is it because of chip which is hot as hell? or?
if we compare processors:
Snapdragon 870 vs Snapdragon 860: tests and benchmarks
We put Qualcomm Snapdragon 870 against Snapdragon 860 to find out which SoC is better. See performance comparison in benchmarks and games.
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we see that "Efficiency of battery consumption" is the same, so problem shouldn't be in cpu.
so, amoled display does all magic?
I'm not defensive and no it's not most amazing thing i ever had. And yes you are not comparing, but you are asking to compare no?
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so, amoled display does all magic?
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It does save battery when there are blacks on the screen because they are not 'powered' on AMOLED screens on that large screen it can make large difference. There are also more small details which also can make some difference for example SD card slot, Poco F3 doesn't have one and Poco X3 Pro has one which has to be powered at all times.
Not to mention GSM signal, small signal difference can easily make several % battery life difference which can be easily manipulated hence why these comparisons are idiotic.
And btw. here is less than 40 min. difference in battery life from what i see.
Edit: Also UFS 3.1 in Poco F3 is more power efficient compared to UFS 3.0 in X3 Pro.
Question was, if on poco x3 pro you can squeeze out 6+ hours of pubg gameplay (even on low quality).
Everything else was just additional info.
Why i am asking? Many poco x3 pro owners wrote that battery life is bad. I am trying to understand if problem is software based, or hardware. If software, it can be fixed, if hardware, then you have powerful phone with bad battery life. If F3 and X3 Pro are both on the same soft, then seems that problem is hardware based (IPS screen).
I saw this test and F3 has 24% of battery when x3 pro dies:
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Why i am asking? Many poco x3 pro owners wrote that battery life is bad.
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You will find people write this for every single phone there is on a planet. I already said what can make battery life difference between the 2 phones and it's not only screen, try reading again.
k3lcior said:
try reading again.
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dude you are so toxic.. im out.
Actually I find your attitude toxic. You make some good points but you listen to nothing!
I could tell you that the phone is great, that your points are somehow valid but not really IRL. I'm afraid of your attack though.
Good luck with the phone.
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dude you are so toxic.. im out.
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I am sorry that I have to post a Redmi Note 11 (spes) issue here, but hear me out since this issue might be present in Redmi note 11 pro+ as well.
Coming to the issue on Redmi note 11(spes), the CPU throttles to half of peak frequency (1.1Ghz vs 2.4Ghz) after taking a phone call (Normal call or whatsapp call sometimes), and the CPU frequency doesn't seem to come back to peak frequency irrespective of CPU load. This has been very frustrating because the phone cannot really handle all the load with that 1.1Ghz frequency. All the jitters, weirdly low Benchmark scores(GB: 178 vs 380) on this phone are due the same issue.
I have even made a video on the same.
My humble request to Pro+ users is to check for this issue on your device and confirm the behaviour here. If this issue doesn't exist in your device, consider yourself lucky.
In my Region, access to MI community has been disabled, so we have no way to escalate the issue to Xiaomi.
What we have to do
To fix this.
easy , flash thermald module
Can confirm not an issue on Redmi Note 11 Pro Plus 5g (peux)
ajaynumb said:
I am sorry that I have to post a Redmi Note 11 (spes) issue here, but hear me out since this issue might be present in Redmi note 11 pro+ as well.
Coming to the issue on Redmi note 11(spes), the CPU throttles to half of peak frequency (1.1Ghz vs 2.4Ghz) after taking a phone call (Normal call or whatsapp call sometimes), and the CPU frequency doesn't seem to come back to peak frequency irrespective of CPU load. This has been very frustrating because the phone cannot really handle all the load with that 1.1Ghz frequency. All the jitters, weirdly low Benchmark scores(GB: 178 vs 380) on this phone are due the same issue.
I have even made a video on the same.
My humble request to Pro+ users is to check for this issue on your device and confirm the behaviour here. If this issue doesn't exist in your device, consider yourself lucky.
In my Region, access to MI community has been disabled, so we have no way to escalate the issue to Xiaomi.
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flash via magisk your issue is solved
"Everyone" is saying: "do not go with this soc, it overheats, it has overdraining battery issues...". Is it really that bad? Or was that true only at the beginning and now after few firmware updates everything is allright and great soc to go?
Looking for an answer in this question too.
I'm on mi 9 lite and want an upgrade.
We have a huge price drop on Xiaomi 12. And I'm looking for a user experienced answer. Thanks!
Maybe check some reviews/test from other phones with this SoC.
Poco F4 GT, Realme GT 2 Pro, Motorola Edge 30 Pro, OnePlus 10 Pro, Oppo Find X5 Pro, ...
Spillunke said:
Maybe check some reviews/test from other phones with this SoC.
Poco F4 GT, Realme GT 2 Pro, Motorola Edge 30 Pro, OnePlus 10 Pro, Oppo Find X5 Pro, ...
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It's not a good SoC. But I'm looking for user experience on latest miui updates. How does battery perform after so many updates?
It overheats from Youtube/TikTok, Idle battery drain is 1%/hr on Wi-Fi, no BT, no GPS
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It overheats from Youtube/TikTok, Idle battery drain is 1%/hr on Wi-Fi, no BT, no GPS
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Say no more. I still have 0.19%/hr idle drain on my mi 9 lite here.
Yeah its the case with my Xiaomi 12, but tolerable.
If you use only social media apps and browsers, the phone heats up but not severe and battery depleted about 1%/5 minutes.
But gaming otherwise, if you play moderately heavy games (genshin impacts) in places without fans or conditioners, this phone heats up quite fast, the fps count drops and the whole experience become worse over time.