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Question before buying Mate 8

i really want to buy mate 8 and i love it but i'm afraid from one thing i'm a user that root his phone and use xposed and flash roms
my question is rooting and xposed will work on this phone without problems?
and i think for mate 8 there is no number of custom roms
it is nornal that the phone is new but my question is like after 2 years when the phone stop to recieve update it will be a custom rom for it ? like Cyanogen?

Root yes ,xposed not working, stock ROM is very good with Google now launcher
I don't believe that CM is making ROMs for Mate 8
Sent from my HUAWEI NXT-L29 using Tapatalk

Root works, xposed works, no cm ROM in sight but delete a bunch of bloat apps, replace them with Google apps instead, and use layers manager along with theme app for a very close to aosp ROM feel

Have to say, was very anxious to find out how Emui would be in practice. If it would be bloated, ugly, overkill, etc.
But now, after using the device for a few days, can honestly say that I wouldn't want it to be any other way! The amount of things you can change, set or extract techy data from is enormous. Don't want stock Android anymore. Don't want CM13. This is it. Emui rulez! :good:
It's fast, smooth, does it all. No regrets. Can't / won't downgrade to stock/ AOSP / CM

nighthawk626 said:
Root works, xposed works, no cm ROM in sight but delete a bunch of bloat apps, replace them with Google apps instead, and use layers manager along with theme app for a very close to aosp ROM feel
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Many people reported that xposed didn't work.
Did it work with you with any modification ?
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nighthawk626 said:
Root works, xposed works, no cm ROM in sight but delete a bunch of bloat apps, replace them with Google apps instead, and use layers manager along with theme app for a very close to aosp ROM feel
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Can you modify the notification panel so it becomes more close to stock Android?

edda123 said:
Can you modify the notification panel so it becomes more close to stock Android?
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As far as i'm aware of no.

My friends bought the phone it's great but there r some issues
1 heat a lot on 4g and games after last update
Notifications problem
Charging while 4g is on is very slow
White dotes on screen
Theme return as it was after changing it
Do u all have similar problems
Because I wanna to buy this phone too
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Bassiette said:
My friends bought the phone it's great but there r some issues
1 heat a lot on 4g and games after last update
Notifications problem
Charging while 4g is on is very slow
White dotes on screen
Theme return as it was after changing it
Do u all have similar problems
Because I wanna to buy this phone too
Sent from my Infinix X509 using Tapatalk
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Will eagrly wait fro someone to respond. I wnat also to buy it but hearing od soem of the above problems, making me hesitating, sepcially am not so expert in rooting and changing

mseif said:
Will eagrly wait fro someone to respond. I wnat also to buy it but hearing od soem of the above problems, making me hesitating, sepcially am not so expert in rooting and changing
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Mine doesn't even get warm. There are no dots on the screen either. Having a large battery makes it charge a little slower but mine charges fast if I use the original ac adapter and cable.

hi. i read about camera app taking forever to launch. any similar experience? does using another camera app solve the problem?. also how good is the loadspeaker? im coming from s5>nexus6>note edge and they all have pretty loud sound

Hello everybody, I was wondering if someone could tell me the best mate8 model to buy I will be using it in the usa. I'm using the mate2 now and it is a solid mid-ranger. I have unlocked the bootloader and have cm13 running on it now. I would appreciate your suggestions on the mate8 models and why you pick it. Thanks..

I'm interested in buying a Mate 8 and I was wondering if you can shoot RAW pictures using the Mate 8?
I know that it has a "Pro Mode" option but I can't find any videos online showing a full indept review of that feature, so could anyone explain/elaborate on that?
Many thanks in advance!

finz99 said:
I was wondering if you can shoot RAW pictures using the Mate 8?
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No, at least with the current ROM.

finz99 said:
I'm interested in buying a Mate 8 and I was wondering if you can shoot RAW pictures using the Mate 8?
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Most Raw-capable camera apps you can download from the Play Store won't work as well due to crap implementation on Huawei's side:
Shame, really.

finz99 said:
I'm interested in buying a Mate 8 and I was wondering if you can shoot RAW pictures using the Mate 8?
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If you wish to buy a Huawei phone and need RAW image files, you have to wait for the release of P9 (April 16th) or P9 Plus (May 20th) that both offer this functionality.

Thank you guys for the reply.
That's really sad to hear then. My LG G4 recently died on me with the infamous boot loop problem and I can't get it fixed anytime soon. I might wait for reviews of the new P9 but I do like the Mate 8 as well though. I'd just have to sacrifice RAW function then =/

finz99 said:
I might wait for reviews of the new P9 but I do like the Mate 8 as well though. I'd just have to sacrifice RAW function then =/
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It's not only a matter of RAW vs non-RAW... P9/P9 Plus dual camera has been yet tested by some reviewers and defined a significant step forward compared to Mate 8 (but still worse than Samsung S7).

themissionimpossible said:
It's not only a matter of RAW vs non-RAW... P9/P9 Plus dual camera has been yet tested by some reviewers and defined a significant step forward compared to Mate 8 (but still worse than Samsung S7).
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You are right, there's more to it than just RAW, but having RAW function is usually beneficial as you can process the picture later and not rely solely on the phone's image processor. Although if the phone's image processor is good to begin with then you shouldn't need RAW.
My G4 had RAW and I quite liked it, managed to get some good shots during my holiday before it died on me(luckily it died after my vacation was over, lol).
How is the Mate 8's Pro/Manual Mode? Is it any good?

finz99 said:
How is the Mate 8's Pro/Manual Mode? Is it any good?
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Not very good, no. Yes, lots of options but don't buy this phone for the camera. Much, much better alternatives (like your G4).

VOLTE & WiFi Calling on T-Mobile US

Do VOLTE and WiFi Calling work on T-Mobile US on Mate 9?

Not with any version available as of yet, no.

daviddem said:
Do VOLTE and WiFi Calling work on T-Mobile US on Mate 9?
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VoLTE is working fine but Wi-Fi Calling is still missing. Here's a screenshot for proof. (This is taken from my US model Mate 9.)

jonathan3579 said:
VoLTE is working fine but Wi-Fi Calling is still missing. Here's a screenshot for proof. (This is taken from my US model Mate 9.)
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Thanks. When and where did you get US version? It went on sale just today!

daviddem said:
Thanks. When and where did you get US version? It went on sale just today!
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No problem! I am happy to answer any questions. I grabbed it about 4 hours ago from Best Buy. Only one location had it within a 250 mile range but it was only 5 minutes away, lol.

jonathan3579 said:
VoLTE is working fine but Wi-Fi Calling is still missing. Here's a screenshot for proof. (This is taken from my US model Mate 9.)
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jonathan3579 said:
No problem! I am happy to answer any questions. I grabbed it about 4 hours ago from Best Buy. Only one location had it within a 250 mile range but it was only 5 minutes away, lol.
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Mine is arriving tomorrow. Not sure to keep it or return it since there is no WiFi Calling!

daviddem said:
Mine is arriving tomorrow. Not sure to keep it or return it since there is no WiFi Calling!
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If there's one thing I can say about this phone, it's easily that it has the best cell reception of any recent device bar none. Seriously, I'm a good 10+dBm stronger than my prior devices: Pixel XL, Axon 7, and more..

jonathan3579 said:
If there's one thing I can say about this phone, it's easily that it has the best cell reception of any recent device bar none. Seriously, I'm a good 10+dBm stronger than my prior devices: Pixel XL, Axon 7, and more..
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Thank you for your feedback. I have to play with it to see if it's worth keeping.

daviddem said:
Thank you for your feedback. I have to play with it to see if it's worth keeping.
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For sure. The only thing really bugging me right now is Huawei's lockscreen. I don't have lock screen controls for any of my music apps and actionable notifications are super finicky. I'd be super happy with it if those things were addressed.

jonathan3579 said:
For sure. The only thing really bugging me right now is Huawei's lockscreen. I don't have lock screen controls for any of my music apps and actionable notifications are super finicky. I'd be super happy with it if those things were addressed.
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I read that Huawei simplified its UI with Nougat. There maybe customization options for it.

daviddem said:
I read that Huawei simplified its UI with Nougat. There maybe customization options for it.
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If there is, it's really hiding from me. My gf has them on her Honor 8 with the Nougat beta so I'm not sure if I keep overlooking a setting or it's screwy on the Mate right now.

jonathan3579 said:
If there is, it's really hiding from me. My gf has them on her Honor 8 with the Nougat beta so I'm not sure if I keep overlooking a setting or it's screwy on the Mate right now.
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When I get it, ill play with it and if I find anything, ill let you know.

daviddem said:
When I get it, ill play with it and if I find anything, ill let you know.
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I'd appreciate that. I'm at my wit's end on this one!

jonathan3579 said:
I'd appreciate that. I'm at my wit's end on this one!
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You are right. Others are complaining from the same issue.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9/help/lockscreen-music-control-spotify-music-t3507728

daviddem said:
You are right. Others are complaining from the same issue.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9/help/lockscreen-music-control-spotify-music-t3507728
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Also, Huawei just released an update to address this issue.
https://www.androidpit.com/huawei-mate-9-android-update

daviddem said:
You are right. Others are complaining from the same issue.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9/help/lockscreen-music-control-spotify-music-t3507728
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This is a bitter sweet feeling right now. At least I'm not alone.. I also couldn't find anything related to Alexa on the phone but I'm not sure if that's because I did a restore or not.

jonathan3579 said:
This is a bitter sweet feeling right now. At least I'm not alone.. I also couldn't find anything related to Alexa on the phone but I'm not sure if that's because I did a restore or not.
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Also, Huawei just released an update to address this issue.
https://www.androidpit.com/huawei-mate-9-android-update

jonathan3579 said:
No problem! I am happy to answer any questions. I grabbed it about 4 hours ago from Best Buy. Only one location had it within a 250 mile range but it was only 5 minutes away, lol.
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Could you let me know the full build number of the firmware on the phone?
From settings -> about phone
For example, maybe it's MHA-L29CXXXBXXX
I was on vacation in America a week ago with a T-Mobile SIM, with the Mate 9 branded to Asia C636 and Europe C432, but neither did VoLTE, so I guess it's a unique feature of the American firmware.
If you're interested in helping to bring the American model's firmware to other people and helping out the community, please get in touch with me by PM, as there are many tests I want to run with your model.

duraaraa said:
Could you let me know the full build number of the firmware on the phone?
From settings -> about phone
I was on vacation in America a week ago with a T-Mobile SIM, with the Mate 9 branded to C636 and C432, but neither did VoLTE, so I guess it's a unique feature of the American firmware.
If you're interested in helping to bring the American model's firmware to other people and helping out the community, please get in touch with me by PM, as there are many tests I want to run with your model.
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Sure thing! Here's a screenshot. If there's anything I can do, I'm more than happy to help provided it's within my capabilities. It's been a long while since I have done any tinkering aside from basic ADB sideloads.

daviddem said:
Also, Huawei just released an update to address this issue.
https://www.androidpit.com/huawei-mate-9-android-update
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That's a relief. If they've acknowledged it then it's on their radar. I just noticed Pandora's controls showed up but disappeared so I guess it's a bug.

android pie 9.0.0.163 available for c432

See on firmware Finder changelog

FF Screen shot

saisallo said:
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How long until its available via OTA?

In my experience one week or until next update.... ?

Can this version be rooted with Magisk?

No, no root is available.
Can someone who did update confirm that the OEM Unlock is not grayed out ?

OEM unlock is greyed out but active.

mrabcx said:
No, no root is available.
Can someone who did update confirm that the OEM Unlock is not grayed out ?
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Hi mate,
do you know if it is gonna be aviable soon?
Thanks

Is there a way to force the upgrade ? Im on 8.1 latest software and stock no root and no unlock bootloader. Any help would be awesome!

alvaro_plopez said:
Hi mate,
do you know if it is gonna be aviable soon?
Thanks
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We need developers who are willing to spend a lot of time and resources on this phone. The development for this phone has been marginal and things are unlikely to change much.
The newer Mate 20 running Android 9 has to this day still not been rootable .... everything pointing to one single thing: if you buy a Huawei phone you get stuck to Emui and unrootable phone. I myself plan to stay on 8.1 forever unless root and twrp become available.

Got OTA today. The problems with sound distortion that I had when streaming using LDAC and HWA at the highest bitrate are gone. They added the gesture navigation from Mate 20 Pro but this still need work as it's not smooth enough.

ch1lko said:
Got OTA today. The problems with sound distortion that I had when streaming using LDAC and HWA at the highest bitrate are gone. They added the gesture navigation from Mate 20 Pro but this still need work as it's not smooth enough.
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Which model?
What Region?
You updated from Beta or oreo?

I'm already in 9.
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sPEADy said:
Which model?
What Region?
You updated from Beta or oreo?
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Looks like c432 and the package size is too small I think to be updated from oreo correct me if I am wrong. So I think he was on beta.
Is there a way to force the update through firmware finder ? Stock and unrooted no bootloader unlock too

sPEADy said:
Which model?
What Region?
You updated from Beta or oreo?
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Yes, I'm in the beta and this is the first update since the initial release. The model is CTL-L29.
I think they are close to releasing the final version and I heard that this will happen this month.

ch1lko said:
Got OTA today. The problems with sound distortion that I had when streaming using LDAC and HWA at the highest bitrate are gone. They added the gesture navigation from Mate 20 Pro but this still need work as it's not smooth enough.
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Hello, can you confirm or deny if the P20 Pro get Master AI 2.0 like the Mate 20 series has? Master AI 1.0 was over the top in processing and color. Thanks.

Kirin65 said:
Hello, can you confirm or deny if the P20 Pro get Master AI 2.0 like the Mate 20 series has? Master AI 1.0 was over the top in processing and color. Thanks.
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How to check Master AI version?

ch1lko said:
How to check Master AI version?
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I don't think there is a way to check per say, but you should see big differences in how it processes images. For instance Blue Sky or Greenery will not be over the top like in P20 Pro. The Mate 20's version of Master AI is much improved over the P20 series.

I hope this version would help fix some historical problems, especially the one with smart unlock stop working that really piss me off.
Said this, I hope at the time Huawei will release the OTA it will be stable enough to don't let me regret Oreo.
Just for fun, in Italy sometimes major updates appeared before on branded models, I think this is merely due to the attempt to please the operators.

virtualmacfrog said:
I hope this version would help fix some historical problems, especially the one with smart unlock stop working that really piss me off.
Said this, I hope at the time Huawei will release the OTA it will be stable enough to don't let me regret Oreo.
Just for fun, in Italy sometimes major updates appeared before on branded models, I think this is merely due to the attempt to please the operators.
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Was thinking exactly the same, this disappearing Smart Lock issue is very annoying.
Is there anyone here running on beta that can confirm it was resolved?

Official Pie Update Now Available for XT1900-7 RETEU

Long story short: I gave the phone I already updated to Pie to my girlfriend and kept my other X4 on 8.0 just to see what would happen.
Well just three minutes ago I received the Pie update. This is Retail EU XT1900-7. From Android 8.0
So they did... ultimately... keep their word.
(And it is MOST CERTAINLY Winter now...)

TeamRainless said:
Long story short: I gave the phone I already updated to Pie to my girlfriend and kept my other X4 on 8.0 just to see what would happen.
Well just three minutes ago I received the Pie update. This is Retail EU XT1900-7. From Android 8.0
So they did... ultimately... keep their word.
(And it is MOST CERTAINLY Winter now...)
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I have got a Moto X4 XT1900-7 /// 8.0.0 /// RETEU /// OPWS27.2.5 and I didn´t received anything.

luisvalino said:
I have got a Moto X4 XT1900-7 /// 8.0.0 /// RETEU /// OPWS27.2.5 and I didn´t received anything.
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Luis Valino... Sounds like you're in Italy. I'm in Germany. But I imagine the update must be coming to you soon.
I wasn't even checking for it. The OTA just POPPED up...

TeamRainless said:
Luis Valino... Sounds like you're in Italy. I'm in Germany. But I imagine the update must be coming to you soon.
I wasn't even checking for it. The OTA just POPPED up...
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Spain.
Understood.

Got it yesterday in Sweden. I got feedback that the microphone audio is low anyone else experienced that ?

The most problematic thing is the dialer:
If you use a DUAL SIM option, and you would like to make a call the dialer always ask to select the SIM card for the call, there is no chance to promote or set the default SIM CARD for the desired number. I have more than 500 contact, I tried with several numbers only 1 person on my contact list where the dialer give opportinity to set the default CALLING SIM CARD for the number.
This is a piece of sh.t... I tried to figured out what is the differece for this one number... I have NO idea..

Got this update OTA yesterday
Poland here.

emcom said:
Poland here.
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In Spain not yet

luisvalino said:
In Spain not yet
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I wouldn't worry about it. They promised that EVERY X4 would get 9.0. And if all of us have gotten it in the past couple of days... then you should have it sometime before Christmas. Heh... I lived in Spain for THREE YEARS:
...you guys do things a little slower.
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Got it yesterday in Sweden. I got feedback that the microphone audio is low anyone else experienced that ?
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No. Microphone audio seems fine here. Basically there's VERY little difference between this and 8.0 for me besides the horizontal recent apps and some other UI things. I'm sure once I start optimizing my app for Pie there are bigger changes at the programming level.
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The most problematic thing is the dialer:
If you use a DUAL SIM option, and you would like to make a call the dialer always ask to select the SIM card for the call, there is no chance to promote or set the default SIM CARD for the desired number. I have more than 500 contact, I tried with several numbers only 1 person on my contact list where the dialer give opportinity to set the default CALLING SIM CARD for the number.
This is a piece of sh.t... I tried to figured out what is the differece for this one number... I have NO idea..
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I'm assuming this is the model with THREE slots for two sims AND an SD card slot? Mine just has the option for either two sims OR one sim and one SD card.
The biggest problem for me has been with the browser. A LOT of sites I frequent (such as this one) aren't working right. For example I can't even LOAD yahoo.com
I also don't like how Do Not Disturb works now. You used to be able to hold volume down to enter do not disturb and volume up to get out of it. Now you have to touch the screen. That's a pretty big step backwards. (Especially when you're in a situation where you actually NEED DND and you don't have your whole hand free and aren't in a position to LOOK at the screen.)
Don't know WHY they did that. It was working just fine.
Other than that... there doesn't seem to be any large external differences between Oreo and Pie.
I'm going to be curious to see what kind of internal differences I get to play with as a programmer on my app.

In Hungary also I got it. The only audio problem remains the same (from the first time). For the first 0.5sec audio volume is low - even if it set to max.
The other problem that the contact names disappeared after a while, seems to be solved.
Which is annoying: volume rockers are changing NOT ringer volume but media volume, which is stupid.

Bocskay said:
In Hungary also I got it. The only audio problem remains the same (from the first time). For the first 0.5sec audio volume is low - even if it set to max.
The other problem that the contact names disappeared after a while, seems to be solved.
Which is annoying: volume rockers are changing NOT ringer volume but media volume, which is stupid.
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Jesus... I didn't even notice that. That is REALLY stupid!

is there some way to force OTA update?

warhawk22 said:
is there some way to force OTA update?
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I want it too. In Russia latest now is 8.0 opws27.2.5

I read that you can do it using a VPN. Yet hasn't worked for me. *shrugs*
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TeamRainless said:
Long story short: I gave the phone I already updated to Pie to my girlfriend and kept my other X4 on 8.0 just to see what would happen.
Well just three minutes ago I received the Pie update. This is Retail EU XT1900-7. From Android 8.0
So they did... ultimately... keep their word.
(And it is MOST CERTAINLY Winter now...)
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Were you able to get the new UI gestures?

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In Spain not yet
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Also PL. However, bought the X4 in SE.

Got it here in germany also a week before xmas. I really like it, much smoother and snappier than stock 8.0...
Great work Motorola !!!!!
Now i want a X5...

As far as I know you can not force OTA.
And new UI gestures are working fine.

Bocskay said:
As far as I know you can not force OTA.
And new UI gestures are working fine.
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I thought a trick or something (like VPN, clear cache for app, etc.)

Bocskay said:
As far as I know you can not force OTA.
And new UI gestures are working fine.
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Good to read that the new UI gestures are working, because I saw a Lenovo forum that it was only working for the Android One version.

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Man have you got the pie update yet? I'm in Spain, too.

Request to any P40 owner

There was an option in camera app on my previous Samsung Galaxy S8+, and it appears it's an option with Huawei's Mate 20 series, that allows the camera to only record slow-mo video when motion is detected.
However, this 'only record when motion detected' slow-mo option is missing on my P30 Pro.
Can anyone with a P40-series phone let me know if Huawei put it back in?
EDIT: Never mind. Turns out the option appears when you select 960 fps. Here's what I captured:

Yes its back..

m3dd0g said:
Yes its back..
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Thank you, very much.
How frustrating.
Could you possibly do me a favor and let me know the version of the camera app you have?
That way, I can try to find an APK to sideload.

King Mustard said:
Thank you, very much.
How frustrating.
Could you possibly do me a favor and let me know the version of the camera app you have?
That way, I can try to find an APK to sideload.
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Version is 10.1.0.313

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Version is 10.1.0.313
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Interesting.
Latest for my P30 Pro is 10.0.1.348.

Huawei released update today including golden snap to the camera. Don't know what it is yet.

Combatfroggy said:
Huawei released update today including golden snap to the camera. Don't know what it is yet.
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Global or Chinese? Which Version?

I'm in the UK with p40pro so must be global. Just do a system software update to 10.1.0.114

Never mind - Turns out the option appears when you select 960 fps.
Here's what I captured:

Not sure if I'm finding the correct setting. But on my p40pro the option to record slow ow on on motion dection works on all fps options but you have to set the area where it my detect motion.

Combatfroggy said:
Not sure if I'm finding the correct setting. But on my p40pro the option to record slow ow on on motion dection works on all fps options but you have to set the area where it my detect motion.
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On my P30 Pro, the box only appears at 960 FPS.

Combatfroggy said:
I'm in the UK with p40pro so must be global. Just do a system software update to 10.1.0.114
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Off the topic query but how are you finding the p40pro till now in terms of camera and the software experience? ..i have ordered one here in UK and will probably get it in a couple of days
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First off it it's a beautiful device and feels great in the hand. It's one of those devices that you find satisfying to touch.
The camera is excellent exactly how I expected it to be after owning a mate 20 Pro a last year, and that device ruined my experience of owning a note 10 plus as the camera on the note just couldn't compare.
Software is good although EMUI is one of my favourite android skins anyway. I find it pretty easy to live without gms as I don't really do social media or anything.
It is easy to put gms on this device although I took it off just to run a stock phone as stock. Due to the fact the only things I wanted from gms (Google pay and music) won't work anyway.
Main gripe with this phone is no gpay or banking apps. Hopefully Huawei can sort this soon. Oh and no stereo speaker or dolby atmos.
Now I need to decide whether to switch from my note 10 plus to this or not?

Combatfroggy said:
First off it it's a beautiful device and feels great in the hand. It's one of those devices that you find satisfying to touch.
The camera is excellent exactly how I expected it to be after owning a mate 20 Pro a last year, and that device ruined my experience of owning a note 10 plus as the camera on the note just couldn't compare.
Software is good although EMUI is one of my favourite android skins anyway. I find it pretty easy to live without gms as I don't really do social media or anything.
It is easy to put gms on this device although I took it off just to run a stock phone as stock. Due to the fact the only things I wanted from gms (Google pay and music) won't work anyway.
Main gripe with this phone is no gpay or banking apps. Hopefully Huawei can sort this soon. Oh and no stereo speaker or dolby atmos.
Now I need to decide whether to switch from my note 10 plus to this or not?
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Thanks a lot..i had the note 10plus and i agree its a beautiful device though camera might be a level below p40pro. So its a tough decision.
I hv a iphone11 pro max and will probably use p40pro as a secondary phone mainly due to its camera
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Yeah the note Is a good phone but Samsung ruined the note with a software update that made the camera blurry and the Bluetooth streaming skip on music play back. And seems as though I take 100+ inspection photos daily for work it's very annoying.
I just can't get on with Samsung ui either it's too much.
The thought of not being fully tracked by Google is quite refreshing as well.
It is weird how nice this phone feels... I find even if I'm not using it I just rotate it in the hand whilst watching TV odd.

Combatfroggy said:
Yeah the note Is a good phone but Samsung ruined the note with a software update that made the camera blurry and the Bluetooth streaming skip on music play back. And seems as though I take 100+ inspection photos daily for work it's very annoying.
I just can't get on with Samsung ui either it's too much.
The thought of not being fully tracked by Google is quite refreshing as well.
It is weird how nice this phone feels... I find even if I'm not using it I just rotate it in the hand whilst watching TV odd.
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I see..even i thought of giving a non google phone a try..lets see how it goes..
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Combatfroggy said:
Yeah the note Is a good phone but Samsung ruined the note with a software update that made the camera blurry and the Bluetooth streaming skip on music play back. And seems as though I take 100+ inspection photos daily for work it's very annoying.
I just can't get on with Samsung ui either it's too much.
The thought of not being fully tracked by Google is quite refreshing as well.
It is weird how nice this phone feels... I find even if I'm not using it I just rotate it in the hand whilst watching TV odd.
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you can use the p40 pro as your tv for remote as well
rocku_dj2000 said:
I see..even i thought of giving a non google phone a try..lets see how it goes..
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while your waiting for your p40 pro have a look on this guide to see alternatives for your google eco system
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p40-pro/how-to/google-alternatives-live-gms-t4081351

xnostra said:
you can use the p40 pro as your tv for remote as well
while your waiting for your p40 pro have a look on this guide to see alternatives for your google eco system
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p40-pro/how-to/google-alternatives-live-gms-t4081351
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Thanks but the article no longer exists
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rocku_dj2000 said:
Thanks but the article no longer exists
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its one of my post its in the guide section titled google-alternatives who said you cant live without GMS