Currently I have an Evo and love it, but when the day comes that a better phone is released, would it be possible to use nandroid to transfer my data over?
Obviously, I would need to wait for the phone to be rooted and flashing a custom recovery before doing this.
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In my opinion the best solution would be to use some backup software like Titanium Backup to save apps data, use SMSBackup+ or something similar to store SMS online. Copying Titanium Backup folder in the new SD you will able to restore apps data while with the other software you will be able to restore sms.
Okay so i have multiple games or had multiple games that require to be backed up and installed new roms and factory reset etc.. Is there a way to save data such as login information stored for netflex or simple savedata on angry birds or ckzombies? (prefer not to use titanium backup because for some reason it wont find root).
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You should be able to do a nandroid backup for this , go to CWM and go to backup and restore , advance , choose how you want to backup and proceed from there (you should be able to backup data only)
I have been using titanium backup so I haven't tried "my backup root" but it would be my next option I think they pretty much do the same thing, I know it at least backs up the data with the apps unlike other "backup apps. Also I wanted to mention if you do just go the nandroid way there's an app called nandroid browser that works good. You can restore individual apps with it instead of having to restore the whole nandroid backup image, it actually opens up the image & you can browse all of the files on it & restore what you want. I haven't tried it on my tablet yet but it ended up working on my phone it just took a while the first time or two when I started it I didn't think it was gonna work but I got patient & realized it worked.
Here are the links if you want to check them out-
Nandroid Browser:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.goddchen.android.nandroidbrowser
MyBackup Root:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rerware.android.MyBackupRoot
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Thank you ill give it a try i didnt see any type of nandroid backup in the recovery(unless your talking bout a regular standard backup in recovery? Id like to do a backup to restore all the system apps and data it was before backing up).... Will the backup also backup how my desktop is arrnged i just never grasped what system data collects besides the data from some apps
Edit: recovery didnt give me any type of option to just backup data....
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I'm wondering if I can expect a backup using Titanium Backup (backing up all user apps + system data) on my existing phone running Android 2.2.2 to be properly restored when it comes back from a factory repair running a newer OS. Will my apps and data really work properly if they update my OS? I'd rather go this route than using a root backup type backup because I'd like to get the OS upgrade. Or is there an easier way to get an OS upgrade while keeping all my apps?
I am using Titanium Backup on my rooted device.
I am afraid this app and other backup-apps are only able to backup and restore user, or pre-installed applications that are not part of the OS.
You cannot backup or restore any system data without rooting the device first, because accessing system data requires root access. The same is true for restoring the data later on.
So if you want to backup system data, preferences or a whole system backup (NANDbackup), you'll have to get root first!
Good luck:fingers-crossed:
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I'm wondering if I can expect a backup using Titanium Backup (backing up all user apps + system data) on my existing phone running Android 2.2.2 to be properly restored when it comes back from a factory repair running a newer OS. Will my apps and data really work properly if they update my OS? I'd rather go this route than using a root backup type backup because I'd like to get the OS upgrade. Or is there an easier way to get an OS upgrade while keeping all my apps?
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Yes this will work as you said you backed up system apps instead is in my experience sometimes when you restore apps and data through titanium it sometime makes apps a little wonky like force closing and such. I would go for it worse case scenario is you notice apps acting up, do a factory reset if unrooted or wipe and reinstall rom if rooted and then when you restore with titanium press the option to restore app only then a least you don't have redownload apps from the market
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Hi,
I need to do a factory reset (to see if it solves a problem that Asus could not solve) and in anyway I read it's safer to wipe data before sending to factory for repair.. So I'd like to make a full backup before this wipe and before the sending to repair..
I installed free Titanium backup (my tablet is rooted), but I'm confused on what I should do before doing the reset and the tutorials I found on Titanium even confused me more..(if you're aware of a nice tutoriel, link would be welcome, because I found none very explicit on xda and even on the web..)
-first, should I use the Asus tool for backup or Titanium ?
- Should I perform a full backup of apps only or apps+system ? I read that system restore could create issues in case restore is not done on same firmware, and I don't know with which FW my tablet will come back from repair.. so should I use apps+system anyway, or make 2 backups (apps first then system or vice versa ?) I'd prefer to restore my tablet as clsoe as it is today, even if possible with bluetooth pairs and wifi connections..
-Should I backup manually my personal files (videos ,various docs, pictures,..) before using Titanium ? (for instance to save space and make nbackups smaller?) If yes, how do we know which folders are backuped up by Titanium and which are not ?
- My sdcard is already largely used with only a few GB left. Can I ask Titanium to save directly to a PC ? Or should I use another sdcard (but then, what will happen to apps installed on sdcard ?) ?
Thanks a lot for your hints.
Ricorico94
There are several different options for you to choose from but I will share the way I usually back up my tablet. I flash different ROMs frequently and have had to use backups quite a bit.
I usually use Titanium Backup to backup everything but only restore non-system apps and data. You're right that restoring system data can result in problems if restoring to different ROMs, not necessarily firmware. It depends on how much the firmware has changed. Since there might be big enough changes that it might screw everything up then I'd avoid restoring system apps and data. If your tablet is backed up to Google, it will sometimes keep the WiFi and Bluetooth pairings and restore them once you log back into your Google account. Not always though. Also I'm not sure that the free version of Titanium Backup can save any place other than an SD card. The paid version can save to Dropbox and Google Drive.
If you're sending your tablet in for repair, you should move all of your personal files to your computer or SD card, deleting them off the tablet. At least, that's what I'd do.
There is one more option which would make saving a lot easier and that is if you have a custom recovery installed like TWRP or CWM you can create a Nandroid Backup of everything, System, Data and all. With all your pictures, etc the file would be huge but you could move that to your computer and restore it when your tablet comes back. That would keep an exact copy of your system and replace whatever ASUS does to it with what you currently have. If I wanted to keep my tablet as close to how I set it up, this is what I would do. Of course, your tablet has to be rooted and unlocked to do so.
wrynn7 said:
There are several different options for you to choose from but I will share the way I usually back up my tablet. I flash different ROMs frequently and have had to use backups quite a bit.
I usually use Titanium Backup to backup everything but only restore non-system apps and data. You're right that restoring system data can result in problems if restoring to different ROMs, not necessarily firmware. It depends on how much the firmware has changed. Since there might be big enough changes that it might screw everything up then I'd avoid restoring system apps and data. If your tablet is backed up to Google, it will sometimes keep the WiFi and Bluetooth pairings and restore them once you log back into your Google account. Not always though. Also I'm not sure that the free version of Titanium Backup can save any place other than an SD card. The paid version can save to Dropbox and Google Drive.
If you're sending your tablet in for repair, you should move all of your personal files to your computer or SD card, deleting them off the tablet. At least, that's what I'd do.
There is one more option which would make saving a lot easier and that is if you have a custom recovery installed like TWRP or CWM you can create a Nandroid Backup of everything, System, Data and all. With all your pictures, etc the file would be huge but you could move that to your computer and restore it when your tablet comes back. That would keep an exact copy of your system and replace whatever ASUS does to it with what you currently have. If I wanted to keep my tablet as close to how I set it up, this is what I would do. Of course, your tablet has to be rooted and unlocked to do so.
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Hi,
Thanks a lot for this advice. Do you know if I can still make 2 separate backups, so that I could use system backup if there's no FW change ?
Regarding the TWRP custom recovery, I understood that since I am already with FW 10.4.4.25 (android 4.1.1) and only rooted, there's no way to install customer recovery. Did I understood properly, or is there a way to downgrade to previous versions first, istall custom and upgrade again back to current FW ?
What do you mean by "tablet backed up to Google" ? I have "save my datas" checked under "backup" menu of parameters, but is there a way to check that there's indeed something in their servers already ?
br,
Ricorico94
You could make as many backups as you wanted. Titanium Backup allows you to restore whatever you want it to so you really only have to make one backup. You can restore everything but the system apps and data or everything. You can even use it to uninstall or freeze what you're not using (as long as it's not an integral part of the FW of course). It's not an all or nothing deal. I would still move all of your personal data to a computer or SD card so nothing happens to it.
My understanding is that installing CWM or TWRP require your device to be unlocked using an app that is provided through the ASUS website. Just being rooted isn't sufficient. If you don't want to unlock your device then you're stuck with using the Titanium Backup method. Just make sure it is saving your apps to an external SD card and not the internal one.
And yes, I was referring to the setting that you already have checked about Google backing up your data. It doesn't always restore everything though so you might have to pair everything again anyway.
ricorico94 said:
Hi,
Thanks a lot for this advice. Do you know if I can still make 2 separate backups, so that I could use system backup if there's no FW change ?
Regarding the TWRP custom recovery, I understood that since I am already with FW 10.4.4.25 (android 4.1.1) and only rooted, there's no way to install customer recovery. Did I understood properly, or is there a way to downgrade to previous versions first, istall custom and upgrade again back to current FW ?
What do you mean by "tablet backed up to Google" ? I have "save my datas" checked under "backup" menu of parameters, but is there a way to check that there's indeed something in their servers already ?
br,
Ricorico94
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I don't think it is a good idea to install a custom recovery if you are about to send the tablet to Asus - I assume for a warranty repair. You would have to unlock your bootloader and that negates your warranty. So just forgettaboutit.
Google backs up some of your data: Calendar and contacts mainly, but also all the apps you have downloaded or bought from the Play Store.
But it is much faster to restore apps with Titanium instead of downloading them from the Play Store.
So backup apps and data in TiBu and move the backup to your PC.
I don't quite understand why you want to backup system data. It's always potentially disruptive to mess with system data yourself. And you are on a pretty old rom and bootloader - so you're due for an update anyway.
Pictures, videos etc, I would just move to an external drive/card or your PC.
When you got everything backed up, do a Factory Reset. That will wipe your data partition.
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Thanks to both of you for your help!
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I don't think it is a good idea to install a custom recovery if you are about to send the tablet to Asus - I assume for a warranty repair. You would have to unlock your bootloader and that negates your warranty. So just forgettaboutit.
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You're right. I was asking this for future, when tablet comes back from repair: at that time, I might want to have a stronger debug/backup using a custom recovery (at least that's what I understood it's very helpful at): I'm soon at warranty end, so I can wait expiration.
It's a good news that the unlock tool of Asus can still be used to allow installation of custom recovery. I'll need to read more on how to do it, etc.
Thanks again !
I was asking earlier about how to make a list of all the apps I have installed, so that when I root my Note 4 (which involves wiping the phone), I can go through the list and easily remember which apps I should reinstall. But someone suggested just using a backup app like Helium, and then restoring them once I root my Note 4.
Will that actually work? Can I just use a backup app like Helium or Titanium or MyBackup, backup all my installed apps and their user data, then root/wipe the phone, reinstall said backup app, and I'll be able to restore all the apps I have installed, and they'll just work?
And if so, does it include things like user data for each app like configuration options and locally stored saved games? Can I go through the list and only restore the apps that I really want, unchecking all the ones I don't want reinstalled?