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Used TGA_Gunnman's steps in order to Root from 2.3.3, need new ROM?

Hello,
So as the title says, I used TGA_Gunnman's steps in order to Root from 2.3.3,
and would like to test out a better ROM. I'm thinking about trying a ROM
that's not as buggy.
Is it possible to backup all my installed apps before proceeding
assuming I can even install a new ROM in the state my phone is in?
Thx in advance...

TTT...pls help..ty.

psukid said:
Hello,
So as the title says, I used TGA_Gunnman's steps in order to Root from 2.3.3,
and would like to test out a better ROM. I'm thinking about trying a ROM
that's not as buggy.
Is it possible to backup all my installed apps before proceeding
assuming I can even install a new ROM in the state my phone is in?
Thx in advance...
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Yes. That's what Nandroid backup is for.

psukid said:
TTT...pls help..ty.
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I use Titanium Backup Free from the market. Under preferences change the default backup location to your external SD card. Go to batch and chose "backup all user apps". To be extra safe, copy the backup created by TI to your computer for safe keeping.

Created Back up...
Here's what I've done...
*I entered ClockworkMod Recovery (via pwr button +down volume) and
created back up there.
Where are the back ups stored so I can delete old one?
*Can I still restore to backup I created after factory reset?
Thank you.

psukid said:
Here's what I've done...
*I entered ClockworkMod Recovery (via pwr button +down volume) and
created back up there.
Where are the back ups stored so I can delete old one?
*Can I still restore to backup I created after factory reset?
Thank you.
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Use a file explorer and look on your external SD card for the file called Clockworkmod/backup/the date of the backup.
I mentioned Titanium Backup because it has been full proof for me restoring my user apps from Rom to Rom.
Yes, you should be able to retore after a factory reset or trying another Rom.

So when I factory reset via clockworkmod, then I can re-enter recovery
there and restore to last backup? So this means all the stock apps I
removed will be there right?
jcbofkc said:
Use a file explorer and look on your external SD card for the file called Clockworkmod/backup/the date of the backup.
I mentioned Titanium Backup because it has been full proof for me restoring my user apps from Rom to Rom.
Yes, you should be able to retore after a factory reset or trying another Rom.
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Ok, so I factory reset via cwm, restored to back up, and
Now phone is back to the way it was before i reset to factory
Settings.
My sounds only for unlock/lock and camera not workin
Is driving me bonkers.
Think i'm ready to try new rom once I.can figure
Out how to install the new rom and apply it.
As long as I have backup in CWM, I can restore to back up
After install of new rom right?
Thx

You are correct. I love weapon 3.O
Did you try titanium backup for your user apps? Games, etc.?

Feel so ignorant....i'm still grying to figure out how to
flash (install) weopon..heck any rom for that matter.

psukid said:
Feel so ignorant....i'm still grying to figure out how to
flash (install) weopon..heck any rom for that matter.
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Keep in mind not backing up your Apps, you will loose them putting on another rom. Use the above mention for the App backup.

Don't I already have the back up that I created within Clockworkmod
or do I need to use another program like TI to back up?
GTWalling said:
Keep in mind not backing up your Apps, you will loose them putting on another rom. Use the above mention for the App backup.
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FINALLY able to install new roms, tried weopon...but when I re-install
TI to restore back up, I don't get most of everything back
(pics, apps, contacts, etc)...
perhaps I backed up incorrectly...will try and repeat steps.
In the meantime, I had to restore to my saved image
via clockwork.
psukid said:
Don't I already have the back up that I created within Clockworkmod
or do I need to use another program like TI to back up?
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psukid said:
FINALLY able to install new roms, tried weopon...but when I re-install
TI to restore back up, I don't get most of everything back
(pics, apps, contacts, etc)...
perhaps I backed up incorrectly...will try and repeat steps.
In the meantime, I had to restore to my saved image
via clockwork.
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Pictures and contacts shouldn't be changing around as you should have contacts backed up through gmail, and your pictures should be saved on your sdcard. Application and data like ringtones and phone setup should be restored if done properly through titanium backup or something similar.
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psukid said:
Feel so ignorant....i'm still grying to figure out how to
flash (install) weopon..heck any rom for that matter.
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I would suggest restoring the original backup you made. Then use TI to back up all your user apps as I described above.
Next step - install your new rom, then restore your apps from TI. Again, be sure to change the default save location of TI to your external SD card before you make the backup of your apps.
There is a ton of info on these topics. So much so that it can be a little confusing. Let me know if you have more questions.
Feel free to hit the thanks if anyone's advise helps you.

So i'm finally good on flashing ROMS but TI is a bit touchy for me.
When I restore the backup I made in the "Batch File" area,
do I restore do I run...when I tried the one that says restore all
apps and user data, I had to individullay install each one...
perhaps this is due to me using the free version???
Will TI backup all my contacts too and the contents of my SD card?
jcbofkc said:
I would suggest restoring the original backup you made. Then use TI to back up all your user apps as I described above.
Next step - install your new rom, then restore your apps from TI. Again, be sure to change the default save location of TI to your external SD card before you make the backup of your apps.
There is a ton of info on these topics. So much so that it can be a little confusing. Let me know if you have more questions.
Feel free to hit the thanks if anyone's advise helps you.
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[Q] PLEASE Help

Hello everyone, for starters im a complete newb at rooting phones and have never before tonight so please excuse my ignorance. I just rooted my phone which went fine, downloaded titanium backup and backed up everything, and then moved a zip of m1 cm10 and gapps onto my ext sd card. then i followed a video on how to install these. i was running clockwork recovery and did a factory reset/clear. in the video, the next screen had an option for "choose zip from sd", all mine had was something like update from external so i clicked that and it brought up my sd card files, including the cm10 and gapps files. i clicked on them (i tried each more than once) and they both stgarted to install then said failed. Im literally here freaking out because none of the apps i downloaded to restore my stuff are on my phone anymore, and when i downloaded them from the play store they said i had not backed anything up. somebody please help me, im legitimately having a nervous breakdown because i lost everything and dont know what to do.

Ok first things first. What was the fail error that CWM produced? I dont understand what you mean by none of the apps you downloaded to restore your stuff are on the phone anymore. Where did they go? If you didnt delete them they should still be there. Did you boot up after the failed attempt, and are now at a factory state OS? Perhaps titanium isnt pointed to the correct location of the backups you made. Please provide more info.
Edit: Ok I misunderstood a point. The apps I take it are gone from the factory reset, but I still dont understand why the backup data cant be restored.

Sounds like CWM didn't flash. That sounds like stock recovery. Flash factory image via Odin, reroot, and reinstall CWM. Download an app called EZ Recovery from the market and follow the instructions. You will be fine.
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Just a side note as far as using CWM goes:
I've noticed that with CWM, the backup file sizes are way too small. Hence a possible corrupted backup folder. TWRP seems to work better with our device as far as backups go.
It's always a good idea to check the size of a backup afterwards before proceeding with any risky procedures like low level flashing. Luckily there is always ODIN.
With my device backup sizes range between 2.0GB and 2.34GB.

tekrhino said:
Just a side note as far as using CWM goes:
I've noticed that with CWM, the backup file sizes are way too small. Hence a possible corrupted backup folder. TWRP seems to work better with our device as far as backups go.
It's always a good idea to check the size of a backup afterwards before proceeding with any risky procedures like low level flashing. Luckily there is always ODIN.
With my device backup sizes range between 2.0GB and 2.34GB.
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You've got to remember that CWM backs up differently now. It backs up data separately in blobs in a different folder. So your backups in clockwork are naturally smaller. Also, I've heard nothing but bad things with TWRP on this device. I'd stay away from it and stick with non touch CWM.

mustbepbs said:
You've got to remember that CWM backs up differently now. It backs up data separately in blobs in a different folder. So your backups in clockwork are naturally smaller. Also, I've heard nothing but bad things with TWRP on this device. I'd stay away from it and stick with non touch CWM.
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This!

apacseven said:
Ok first things first. What was the fail error that CWM produced? I dont understand what you mean by none of the apps you downloaded to restore your stuff are on the phone anymore. Where did they go? If you didnt delete them they should still be there. Did you boot up after the failed attempt, and are now at a factory state OS? Perhaps titanium isnt pointed to the correct location of the backups you made. Please provide more info.
Edit: Ok I misunderstood a point. The apps I take it are gone from the factory reset, but I still dont understand why the backup data cant be restored.
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When I open titanium backup and try to restore, it tells me no backups have been performed. Before trying to flash cm10, I moved the backup to my external sdcard and it is still there, yet I still can't restore it and when I try to do something with the files on my card it says no application can perform this task. Ive gotten my contacts back through tha app I backed them up on so I'm at a loss for why tb Isnt working.

levibernhardt said:
When I open titanium backup and try to restore, it tells me no backups have been performed. Before trying to flash cm10, I moved the backup to my external sdcard and it is still there, yet I still can't restore it and when I try to do something with the files on my card it says no application can perform this task. Ive gotten my contacts back through tha app I backed them up on so I'm at a loss for why tb Isnt working.
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Launch titanium and hit menu/preferences. From there you can change the backup location to wherever you moved it to and it should see them.
Also for your contacts... If you are planning on flashing roms do yourself a favor a migrate your contacts off your phone and on to Google. That way you just log back in to your Google account after a re flash and they are all resynced. Plus you can access them from anywhere at contacts.Google.com
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Relentless D said:
Launch titanium and hit menu/preferences. From there you can change the backup location to wherever you moved it to and it should see them.
Also for your contacts... If you are planning on flashing roms do yourself a favor a migrate your contacts off your phone and on to Google. That way you just log back in to your Google account after a re flash and they are all resynced. Plus you can access them from anywhere at contacts.Google.com
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Did this ^ in titanium and the files show up, but it still says there is nothing to restore.
Also, could someone tell me/point me to a good method of flashing M1 cm10 onto a us cellular gs3?

mustbepbs said:
You've got to remember that CWM backs up differently now. It backs up data separately in blobs in a different folder. So your backups in clockwork are naturally smaller. Also, I've heard nothing but bad things with TWRP on this device. I'd stay away from it and stick with non touch CWM.
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I agree 100%, the non-touch version of CWM works perfectly. I could care less about touch/non-touch/color of the app etc. ALL I care about is the capability to do a sucessful restore & CWM has never failed me for that.
I did a restore from it last night & it worked perfectly. The ONLY thing I have ever had to do after a CWM restore is clear data in GMAIL to get it to send.

Restoring Back Up

Well since this was my first root I guess I made a mistake or maybe not?
So this is the case :
I have an HTC One S (Rooted using SuperSu Method)
What I did for backup is just copy all the content from the phone (in hard drive mode) to a folder on my pc (which ended up being around 7gigs)
My question is how do I restore all that data\pics\apps\profiles back to my phone?
(Tried to copy past it back into the phones SD-Card and rebooting, The phone doesn't recognize any of the data)
Any way to actually make this work? or is it a lost cause?
Thanks for the help! :laugh:

As far as apps and their data goes, only some info is saved on the sdcard, the rest is saved on the devices internal memory.
Only restoring the stuff saved on the SD card aint gonna bring back any apps. They need to be reinstalled properly.

Goatshocker said:
As far as apps and their data goes, only some info is saved on the sdcard, the rest is saved on the devices internal memory.
Only restoring the stuff saved on the SD card aint gonna bring back any apps. They need to be reinstalled properly.
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How about all the Contacts \ Messages and ect?
Because I have all the files on my PC (Exactly the same files that have been on the phone before the ROOT\Unblock)
Can I recover those back to the phone somehow?

Messages and contacts are stored on internal memory, unless you export them.
You dont have access to anything except /sdcard/ through the PC, unless you use ADB.
edit: What I mean is, if you have only backed up /sdcard/ (which seems to be the case), you have lost everything on the internal memory (such as messages and contacts etc).

Goatshocker said:
Messages and contacts are stored on internal memory, unless you export them.
You dont have access to anything except /sdcard/ through the PC, unless you use ADB.
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So basically even tho I copied all the content from the phone itself to the pc, All I copied is squat.
All the raw data I get is pictures.
So no encrypted data can be found on the storage partition and I have to just start over from scratch?
And the next time I root or flash, just use Recovery backup?

You didnt copy all the content. You only copied what was stored on the /sdcard/ (which is more or less the only thing you have access to without root).
Theres a very slim amount of data android uses on the sdcard, unless the user specifically tells it to.
Next time you flash, you should back up all your apps you want to save with for example titanium backup (requires root, which you now have), save all the contacts to the sim card, and export all messages.
Then after you have wiped and flashed a new rom, just restore the backups with titanium backup again, and import contacts from sim.
The backup/restore in recovery backups/restores the WHOLE system, so when you restore it it will be exactly like the way it was when you made the backup. (edit: to clarify, if you flash a new rom, then restore a backup made on another rom, you will return to that rom the backup was made on)

Goatshocker said:
You didnt copy all the content. You only copied what was stored on the /sdcard/ (which is more or less the only thing you have access to without root).
Theres a very slim amount of data android uses on the sdcard, unless the user specifically tells it to.
Next time you flash, you should back up all your apps you want to save with for example titanium backup (requires root, which you now have), save all the contacts to the sim card, and export all messages.
Then after you have wiped and flashed a new rom, just restore the backups with titanium backup again, and import contacts from sim.
The backup/restore in recovery backups/restores the WHOLE system, so when you restore it it will be exactly like the way it was when you made the backup. (edit: to clarify, if you flash a new rom, then restore a backup made on another rom, you will return to that rom the backup was made on)
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Got it
I actually found some encrypted data such as : Whats up message history, Some Contacts, Specific apps.
And I recovered all my contacts VIA my google account.
Only thing lost is the applications, which I will reinstall in like 30 minutes.
Anyhow I am quite happy I got into the rooting business, Already feel the different abilities and the uncovered raw code + new line of root supported apps waiting to be savaged by me.
Thank you for the help anyways (and the quick reply as well)
And I think the original ROOT tutorial post should have a step which is a "back-up step" which explains how to back up most of the info before rooting, and the ability to back up with root.
Cheers!

[Q] Clockworkmod recovery backup not working properly

Hi gents. I am trying to restore my phone to a recent clockworkmod recovery backup but several of the latest backups won't restore the downloaded programs of the time, nor do they seem to be restoring the general Android settings. Older backups are working perfectly, however, and I can't think of any significant or unusual changes I made to the system that could stop it working properly. Also, I have been backing up and restoring the same way.
I'm using Revolutionary CWM v4.0.1.4, HTC ICS 4.0.4 (w/ older HBOOT for S-OFF), HTC Desire S.
I find this very strange, and unsettling that clockworkmod's backup may be unreliable. Has anybody experienced this?
Another thing, I have also been backing up the entire SD card data in the later backups (just copying to computer via card reader), thinking it may be best to restore backups with this data, but it seems to not make a difference whether this is done, or the data left as-is, or the card cleared. What's best practice in regard to the Android data that's put on the SD card?
My phone is up the creek. Help!?

i am having the same problem restoring CWM v4.0.1.4 backups on my galaxy s2: older backups restore perfectly and newer backups restore incompletely (some settings and SMSs, but no apps and no contacts).
i believe this is an issue with large nandroid images (containing >10,000 files) being unable to restore properly. this implies the backup itself is intact, luckily.
read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154892
to rebuild my phone i started by using unyaffs on my PC to access the files on the CWM nandroid image and restore my contacts, call logs, etc:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370349
you can find additional file locations listed in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969650
i then used appextractor (available in the play store) to manually restore my apps and app data from the CWM nandroid image. some needed to be redownloaded.
it's a schlepp but better than losing everything entirely.
i've read that TWRP is a more reliable way to backup and restore. i'm certainly not using CWM again.
regarding your second question, the data on your internal and external SD card is irrelevant to the function of the OS, but some apps may rely on that data. for example large apps install on the SD card.

Thanks so much for that matey. I searched and searched but hadn't come across the 10,000 files limitation. How annoying!
Anyhoo, before I saw your post I ended up restoring the latest working backup and reinstalled apps, configured things, got the device mostly up to speed.. but there were some sentimental Messages I wanted to restore. I got that unyaffs exe, the 10,000 file fix one, and managed to extract the mmssms.db just fine..
But I soon learnt it seems to be a nightmare to get it back into ICS because the SQLite db is in full-vacuum mode or some such, meaning it is cached and rewritten to help avoid fragmentation or some such. So I overwrite the mmssms.db, set permissions and ownership, reboot, and it's overwritten with the current one. Argh. I tried clearing cache. Tried running SMS backup/restore apps while the 'good' mmssms.db was in place, but they seem to look at the db cache/temp data, not the mmssms.db.
For those facing my situation and want Messages from CWM/nandroid backups in ICS, I found a great tip just posted on one of the threads N-acetyltransferase linked;
RichAP said:
I did this yesterday using Titanium Backup for my SMS/MMS
You need to go into Preferences and check the *Migrate system data [Experimental] option
Then you go to More - Extract from nandroid backup
There it is listed as Dialer Storage
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I had tried using TiBu to restore Messages from nandroid backup (no success), but Dialer Storage!? How annoying. Anyhoo it's sorted.
Then I quickly found a good alternative recovery and quickly bought the premium version of 4EXT. It's very good, but get this, it actually recovered my latest CWM recovery backup no drama, just like that! Ahh well I didn't need those hours of my life anyway. I've often thought the Desire S's codename Saga is rather apt.
In conclusion, TiBu looks damn good and 4EXT is a ripper. I'd recommend it however the Galaxy S2 support is apparently unconfirmed thus far. Maybe look into it nevertheless.
Thanks for the help dude.

[Q] Online Nandroid

what is the difference between a Online Nandroid backup and a titanium backup?

dady613 said:
what is the difference between a Online Nandroid backup and a titanium backup?
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nanodroid backup referred to a full backup (kernel, rom, all apps, all settings) a completed backup of the entire OS.
Titanium backup is only used for application backup (included all the system apps, user download apps and all settings belong to the apps).
Both can be backup to local storage like internal memory or external sdcard and/or Online backup meaning to the cloud storage like Sugar sync, Asus cloud storage, Samsung cloud storage, dropbox...etc.. The advantage of Online backup is you can copy the backup down to your device from the cloud anywhere that have access to the internet.

thanks a lot buhohitr for the great and fast answer.

Usually nandroid backups are made through (a custom) recovery, which implies you need to reboot into recovery mode to perform the operation.
The one error in buhohitr's answer is that in this case, online means you don't have to reboot, the backup is performed while your android system is live and running. Less time spent offline (and on a phone, no missed calls...)
I was not aware this had been turned into an app, I knew only a version of the onandroid script. Will try that (on my unlocked phone, not my locked tablet).

quietseb said:
Usually nandroid backups are made through (a custom) recovery, which implies you need to reboot into recovery mode to perform the operation.
The one error in buhohitr's answer is that in this case, online means you don't have to reboot, the backup is performed while your android system is live and running. Less time spent offline (and on a phone, no missed calls...)
I was not aware this had been turned into an app, I knew only a version of the onandroid script. Will try that (on my unlocked phone, not my locked tablet).
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You're correct if you referred to "Online" as a name of an app