I'll submit the question here as I think this is more kind of a debate rather than a question.
This is something I didn't get many answers neither from users nor xiaomi itself.
Prior to December 2019 my WhatsApp, telegram, signal, etc. calls were vibrating when Do Not Disturb was set up to:
When do not disturb is on - Allow calls - Allow from anyone.
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After that they stopped vibrating under this very same scenario which greatly affected the functionality of my device.
Now I asked WhatsApp personally about why it doesn't vibrate even if WhatsApp is set up to vibrate.
They said:
The vibrations that you find within WhatsApp work differently based on what type of device you are using. For all devices, if your phone is set to vibration mode and your WhatsApp vibration settings are off, the phone setting will override the WhatsApp settings. In other words, your phone will still vibrate or vice versa.
Note that manufacturers may have their own unique vibration settings that may interfere with the WhatsApp notifications. We have no way to control this from our end.
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My settings are:
WhatsApp Calls - Vibrate - Default.
System settings - Sound - Vibrate for calls - On.
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Given that whatsapp says that each manufacture does what it wants...
What is the right behaviour for this configuration? If they indeed introduced a bug, what can I do if they keep ignoring me?
I attached video proof of the current behavior.
I have been controlling vibration with tasker for a long time, because vibration does(did?) not respect DND, so to me it is a feature that I wasn't aware of.
I guess everyone has a different opinion on how things should work, but to me, DND means no sounds or vibration. If I wanted no sound but with vibration, then that is volume 0.
https://ibb.co/7NbHB2p
It's very well written on do not disturb settings that it will mute everything except the ones you allow!
Jonybat said:
I have been controlling vibration with tasker for a long time, because vibration does(did?) not respect DND, so to me it is a feature that I wasn't aware of.
I guess everyone has a different opinion on how things should work, but to me, DND means no sounds or vibration. If I wanted no sound but with vibration, then that is volume 0.
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Volume 0 would vibrate for messages too. My config makes the phone ring and/or vibrate only for calls. In fact DND can be customized to everyone's taste and works fine for regular phone calls when "allow all calls" is configured (they respect sound and vibration). The issue appears because third app calls respect the rules for sound but completely disable vibration.
AnonymousAL said:
https://ibb.co/7NbHB2p
It's very well written on do not disturb settings that it will mute everything except the ones you allow!
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Yes, indeed. In fact regular calls respect the exception like a charm for both volume and vibration. The issue is that third party app calls respect volume rules but stop vibrating altogether. To me it's a bug but I wanted to hear from others.
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"You know what really grinds my gears..."
Why does the phone vibrate when on a call? Seriously - this should be built into the operating system. A notification sound will suffice. It's so annoying to have a vibrations all on your earlobes. Is there a way (app) to configure this? Anyone else feel me or am I making a big deal about this?
Never noticed mine vibrate,
what is the notification for?
I turn off all in-call notifications though.
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In-call notifications? Where is that? The vibrations come from sms messages.
Never noticed that.. but I have had the 'smart alarm' go off while I was talking on the phone. Was quite convenient.
And apparently it is audible enough to hear on the other end as several people have inquired as to what the noise was.
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Mine doesn't vibrate when on call. Just gives a beep, maybe because I turn off vibrating notification in the sound and display setting
Wow. So I'm the only one that uses vibration for text messages? Also noticed it vibrates while charging - this also mystifies me because I don't see why anyone would need it to vibrate while being charged. Is this not common sense? I wonder if this happens with other android devices?
apollokid said:
Wow. So I'm the only one that uses vibration for text messages? Also noticed it vibrates while charging - this also mystifies me because I don't see why anyone would need it to vibrate while being charged. Is this not common sense? I wonder if this happens with other android devices?
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No, this happened to me several times. I eventually just turned off the vibrations all together. I agree, it would be nice to get a notification tone in the ear if you have the vibrate function on.
Have you tried Handcent SMS? It has great customizations for the vibration feature, among other things. Even different vibration patterns for distinct individuals. Give it a shot - might be what you're looking for.
PersonOfKnownOrigin said:
No, this happened to me several times. I eventually just turned off the vibrations all together. I agree, it would be nice to get a notification tone in the ear if you have the vibrate function on.
Have you tried Handcent SMS? It has great customizations for the vibration feature, among other things. Even different vibration patterns for distinct individuals. Give it a shot - might be what you're looking for.
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I need the vibrate alert far too much to disable it all together. I rarely hear my phone, but almost always feel it.
apollokid said:
Wow. So I'm the only one that uses vibration for text messages? Also noticed it vibrates while charging - this also mystifies me because I don't see why anyone would need it to vibrate while being charged. Is this not common sense? I wonder if this happens with other android devices?
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Why would you not want it to vibrate while charging? During calls I could see (I have the same complaint actually), but why during charging?
+1 for a solution to this. Way too annoying when your on a call and you get a txt message but turning off vibrate is not an option.
BigJayDogg3 said:
Why would you not want it to vibrate while charging? During calls I could see (I have the same complaint actually), but why during charging?
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Well, if the phone is charging its obviously plugged in. If its plugged in, its not in my pocket...its probably on a table or desk. Why do I want it to vibrate on the desk? If I'm not touching it, I can't feel it so an audible alert is good enough...
Its annoying sure, but I don't make enough phone calls for it to be really a bother. Oh well.
TheSopranos16 said:
+1 for a solution to this. Way too annoying when your on a call and you get a txt message but turning off vibrate is not an option.
Well, if the phone is charging its obviously plugged in. If its plugged in, its not in my pocket...its probably on a table or desk. Why do I want it to vibrate on the desk? If I'm not touching it, I can't feel it so an audible alert is good enough...
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Is there a phone in the market that upon sensing external power it automatically switches notification type? Pike
I've had a quite a few smart phones (or so I thought) and don't recall any if them doing that.
Then again, if it's charging, it's not in your pocket. Switch notification to audible and problem solved. Takes all of one second.
a_fuegon said:
Is there a phone in the market that upon sensing external power it automatically switches notification type? Pike
I've had a quite a few smart phones (or so I thought) and don't recall any if them doing that.
Then again, if it's charging, it's not in your pocket. Switch notification to audible and problem solved. Takes all of one second.
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All of my previous phones were running Symbian - none of them vibrated while on the phone or charging (moot point really).
Who wants to remember to switch their notifications to anything after a phone event happens? While you're at it, why not tell people to make sure they turn off their ringtones when they place or receive a call. Same logic. Doesn't make much sense to me...
I agree. Other phones I've had don't turn vibrate off when plugged in. I think they should, but they don't. So you can't really call this a "defect" with the Captivate.
However, I don't recall any of the other phones I've had vibrating in your ear when you are on a call. To me, that is a oversite with the dialer app and should be fixed.
I agree with you. I have had the think vibrate my ear off a few times.
One thing that really pisses me off is the dialer with an incomming call. ITs a pain in the ass to actually answer the call. Intead of it answering when you swipe, you have to go through 3 steps:
-Swipe
-pick end call or hold call
-swipe again to answer.
Im going to start a new thread to see if anyone knows how to answer call waiting instantly without these steps.
Here's an app I quickly made that disables the notificiation vibrator when in a call. It is a very simple/minimal app with no icons to run, or settings to change. Just don't uninstall while in a call or the vibrate setting will remain off. I only tried it with Call + Gmail vibrate.
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Got ya.
Its just a matter of how i use my phone. When my phone is charging, most of the time its on vibrate and i feel the vibration in the table/desk or hear it on my night stand.
I just didn't make the jump in logic.
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apollokid said:
"You know what really grinds my gears..."
Why does the phone vibrate when on a call? Seriously - this should be built into the operating system. A notification sound will suffice. It's so annoying to have a vibrations all on your earlobes. Is there a way (app) to configure this? Anyone else feel me or am I making a big deal about this?
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have you tried going to
settings
call settings
all calls
alerts on call
change to sound? i have my sms set to both sound and vibrate and when i am on a call i just hear a tone
apollokid said:
All of my previous phones were running Symbian - none of them vibrated while on the phone or charging (moot point really).
Who wants to remember to switch their notifications to anything after a phone event happens? While you're at it, why not tell people to make sure they turn off their ringtones when they place or receive a call. Same logic. Doesn't make much sense to me...
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First off, my apologies for not proof reading my poor swyping abilities.
What I was trying to state is that if it bothers you so much that the phone should ring as opposed to vibrate when plugged in , it just takes a second to change the notification type. Not sure what is there that doesn't make sense?
The vibrating in your ear, is totally understandable, hence why i didn't comment on that. IF my phone vibrated while it's on my ear, i'd be upset too.
hondaguy said:
have you tried going to
settings
call settings
all calls
alerts on call
change to sound? i have my sms set to both sound and vibrate and when i am on a call i just hear a tone
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I don't think you have sms vibrations set or maybe you're using non-stock rom - it's under the messages application. You had me for a minute cause I never checked call settings\all calls. Nonetheless - no that doesn't work. It still vibrates on a call.
aloant said:
Here's an app I quickly made that disables the notificiation vibrator when in a call. It is a very simple/minimal app with no icons to run, or settings to change. Just don't uninstall while in a call or the vibrate setting will remain off. I only tried it with Call + Gmail vibrate.
hth
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Thanks I appreciate the effort. Unfortunately it seemed to turn off the vibrations all together. Lol. Even when I'm not on a call it doesn't vibrate. Can we get a second iteration? Please?
Thank you guys for the Handcent and ChompSMS suggestions. These seem to handle the message events the way I expect as they allow for in-call vibration alert customizations. Unfortunately they take over and get rid of my message puzzle pieces (cheezy I know, but I've grown to like those little things). I'm so picky - but that's what great about android right? Endless customizations!
I defintely would be interested in a less intrusive way to deal with the issue (i.e NoInCallVibrate)
This seems like the dumbest thing in the world. How come the phone will not vibrate for texts when set on the Vibration sound profile if you don't have it set to normally vibrate when the notification sound is set to normal?
I don't need it to vibrate when I get a notification sound, but if I set my phone to vibrate, I expect it to vibrate for every single damn notification/call/etc, regardless of what it's set to in the Normal sound profile. It should override all normal settings.
You're right. Its been a feature of AOSP since eclair. Wonder why HTC removed that option.
do you have the box checked in messaging settings to vibrate when messages are received?
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do you have the box checked in messaging settings to vibrate when messages are received?
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no, as I said, when I have my sound on, I don't need it to vibrate. It just baffles me that this doesn't automatically come on when the phone is set to Vibrate.
So I usually keep my phone on a table or such surfaces, which make a loud and irritating rattling sound whenever my phone vibrates.
I want to disable notification vibration (or all vibration for all I care), but in a way that my phone will play a notification sound.
If there's a ROM that allows this, an app which plays notification sounds on Do not disturb mode, or a native android setting I have missed, I'm glad to use any of those.
You can disable vibration in each app, also in setting you’ll disable vibration for call.
ExaHamza said:
You can disable vibration in each app, also in setting you’ll disable vibration for call.
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But there isn't that option in every app. If there was, I would have done that already. I' talking about every notification, not just WhatsApp.
Actually many apps have this feature (vibration off/on). I got your idea but the answer is NO, there's no option on toggle turn off all vibration.
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So I usually keep my phone on a table or such surfaces, which make a loud and irritating rattling sound whenever my phone vibrates.
I want to disable notification vibration (or all vibration for all I care), but in a way that my phone will play a notification sound.
If there's a ROM that allows this, an app which plays notification sounds on Do not disturb mode, or a native android setting I have missed, I'm glad to use any of those.
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in CM13 i once saw an option to change Vibration Intensity , but currently i am not on CM13, may be that will give you what you need
but let anyone confirm it ..
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in CM13 i once saw an option to change Vibration Intensity , but currently i am not on CM13, may be that will give you what you need
but let anyone confirm it ..
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I am in CM 13. It still vibrates even when vibration intensity is set to 0% . Just to confirm.
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CONTEXT: My parents have always had problems with their MIUI xiaomi phones (redmi note 9, redmi 5+ and note 4x) where Do not disturb (dnd) set up as "alow incoming calls - from anyone" doesn't work at all.
MY QUESTION:
Does the "allow incoming calls - from anyone" dnd option block notification sounds and make calls from anyone ring?
This function is vital to me as I often use DND to silence my phone but let calls through in case something important happens.
Thanks for the help.
When you press the volume rocker, it gives you two options, silence and do not disturb, I always have the phone on silence and it obviously doesn't sound when you get calls or anything like that, I'm not sure if the do not disturb option is actually for calls.
If you press that option it tells you ''sounds and vibrations are disabled'' but if you press on the silence option it specifies ''calls and notifications are silence''
I use DND on a regular basis at work/sleep to filter my calls and make sure that only my girlfriend, certain friends and family can call me and no one else. Meaning only their calls will ring out loud while all other people's calls just ring silently.
Your post is not clear as to what exactly you are looking for but if the short question is :
Does DND features work on MIUI?
Yes they work 100%
Here are the available options in MIUI 12
Alrich said:
I use DND on a regular basis at work/sleep to filter my calls and make sure that only my girlfriend, certain friends and family can call me and no one else. Meaning only their calls will ring out loud while all other people's calls just ring silently.
Your post is not clear as to what exactly you are looking for but if the short question is :
Does DND features work on MIUI?
Yes they work 100%
Here are the available options in MIUI 12
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Sorry for not being clear enough, let me rephrase my question:
Does the "allow incoming calls - from anyone" option actually work while blocking all message notifications?
This option didn't work in none of the xiaomi phones I mentioned because it either didn't ring or it didn't block message sounds so the workaround was doing exactly what you did with your gf but with all my contacts instead.
Okay I recreated the scenario and you seem to be right. I wasn't able to check the calls part but I was definitely able to check that when the DND is set to
Allow Incoming Calls - Anyone
The notifications make a sound.
I'm assuming what you are looking for is that only calls should be making sounds while on DND and not anything else like SMS / WhatsApp / etc.
Hope I helped.
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Okay I recreated the scenario and you seem to be right. I wasn't able to check the calls part but I was definitely able to check that when the DND is set to
Allow Incoming Calls - Anyone
The notifications make a sound.
I'm assuming what you are looking for is that only calls should be making sounds while on DND and not anything else like SMS / WhatsApp / etc.
Hope I helped.
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Thanks for the confirmation. From what I see, this happens in every single MIUI phone out there.
I'm shocked that it's still not fixed after so many years of sending feedback through the feedback app.
I guess I'll have to find a workaround once I buy the device
My OnePlus 7 Pro (GM-1917) is running OOS 10.3.8. My device is rooted via Magisk 23.0.
When I set the Ringer Volume to 0 (zero), the phone still makes a ringing sound when a call comes in. It's low volume, but I want it to be zero volume ... i.e., totally silent. And I want to control this programmatically, and not with any kinds of button presses or keystrokes. In other words, I want to do it with some sort of internal shell command, or possibly with Tasker or Termux or something like that.
This is not the same as "Do Not Disturb". I still want notifications to make a sound, and I still want other sounds to be audible. This only pertains to the Ringer Volume and no other sounds.
And I don't want the Ringer Volume to be permanently silent. I want to be able to turn the Ringer on and off under certain conditions, and when it is off, I want it to be totally and completely silent.
Is there any way to programmatically switch my Ringer Volume between silent and audible on my device and OS?
Thank you very much in advance.
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My OnePlus 7 Pro (GM-1917) is running OOS 10.3.8. My device is rooted via Magisk 23.0.
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A silent MP3? I have used such a ringtone in the past but haven't switched programatically.
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My OnePlus 7 Pro (GM-1917) is running OOS 10.3.8. My device is rooted via Magisk 23.0.
When I set the Ringer Volume to 0 (zero), the phone still makes a ringing sound when a call comes in. It's low volume, but I want it to be zero volume ... i.e., totally silent. And I want to control this programmatically, and not with any kinds of button presses or keystrokes. In other words, I want to do it with some sort of internal shell command, or possibly with Tasker or Termux or something like that.
This is not the same as "Do Not Disturb". I still want notifications to make a sound, and I still want other sounds to be audible. This only pertains to the Ringer Volume and no other sounds.
And I don't want the Ringer Volume to be permanently silent. I want to be able to turn the Ringer on and off under certain conditions, and when it is off, I want it to be totally and completely silent.
Is there any way to programmatically switch my Ringer Volume between silent and audible on my device and OS?
Thank you very much in advance
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Well, actually why you need that programmatically when you have many apps to do that even you can set the time durations for silent and loud.
But just a question I am feeling crazy to know....why you don't want that profile slider on the side. DND-Silent-Ringing...that already comes with 3 mods and you can customize it...
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A silent MP3? I have used such a ringtone in the past but haven't switched programatically.
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Aha! That's the solution! Thank you. I can programmatically switch that with Tasker.
Mohitash said:
Well, actually why you need that programmatically when you have many apps to do that even you can set the time durations for silent and loud.
But just a question I am feeling crazy to know....why you don't want that profile slider on the side. DND-Silent-Ringing...that already comes with 3 mods and you can customize it...
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Thank you.
I'm controlling this with Tasker, based upon various conditions that Tasker can detect: where I'm located, the time of day, etc. So, I want to be able to handle this without any human interaction.