X2 Pro international, single SIM to Dual SIM - OPPO Find X2 Pro Questions & Answers

Hi,
Went to the local shop, opened the SIM tray and we saw there were connectors for 2 SIM cards. Seems that there is only the SIM tray (easy to modify) that changes in the hardware.
My question is : is it possible to modify the software/phone for it to recognise 2 SIM cards like the Chinese variant?

SAO said:
Hi,
Went to the local shop, opened the SIM tray and we saw there were connectors for 2 SIM cards. Seems that there is only the SIM tray (easy to modify) that changes in the hardware.
My question is : is it possible to modify the software/phone for it to recognise 2 SIM cards like the Chinese variant?
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can't you just buy the dual sim tray and try it?

blue_panther9_9 said:
can't you just buy the dual sim tray and try it?
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nope can't find one.
But i was able to adapt it and it recognized the second sim. But won't connect the second sim to the network as it doesn't have a second IMEI "yet".
So trying to find solutions with some friends.

SAO said:
nope can't find one.
But i was able to adapt it and it recognized the second sim. But won't connect the second sim to the network as it doesn't have a second IMEI "yet".
So trying to find solutions with some friends.
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can you try this method? https://www.technobezz.com/restore-galaxy-null-imei-and-fix-not-registered-on-network/

blue_panther9_9 said:
can you try this method? https://www.technobezz.com/restore-galaxy-null-imei-and-fix-not-registered-on-network/
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This is to "fix" an IMEI.... i need to add one. SIM1 connects with no issue... where as SIM2 can't as it doesn't have an IMEI.

SAO said:
This is to "fix" an IMEI.... i need to add one. SIM1 connects with no issue... where as SIM2 can't as it doesn't have an IMEI.
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A quick question, what happens if you pull the SIM1 (the fully working one) out? Does the SIM2 (the limited one) work now?
And what if you physically switch them in the SIM card tray?
This might be a great test to whether it's a physical or a software limitation.

Killer007TV said:
A quick question, what happens if you pull the SIM1 (the fully working one) out? Does the SIM2 (the limited one) work now?
And what if you physically switch them in the SIM card tray?
This might be a great test to whether it's a physical or a software limitation.
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SIM1 + SIM2 = you only see the information
SIM2 only = it says insert sim
SIM2 SIm into SIM1 slot = works normal
we tried "nearly" everything, and the only possibility would be to unlock bootloader, and flash a ROM with pieces of the Chinese ROM and still there we might not even make it work as there is no second IMEI - I guess it's possible to flash it one way or the other, but to much work. It's easier to buy the chinese one, adb pm (delete) what apps you want to delete (like the launcher, we test on the global x2Pro with nova installed and it worked fine.

SAO said:
SIM1 + SIM2 = you only see the information
SIM2 only = it says insert sim
SIM2 SIm into SIM1 slot = works normal
we tried "nearly" everything, and the only possibility would be to unlock bootloader, and flash a ROM with pieces of the Chinese ROM and still there we might not even make it work as there is no second IMEI - I guess it's possible to flash it one way or the other, but to much work. It's easier to buy the chinese one, adb pm (delete) what apps you want to delete (like the launcher, we test on the global x2Pro with nova installed and it worked fine.
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So at this stage, you're saying you're almost certain the single-SIM global version will stay single SIM?
That's kind of a deal-breaker...

Killer007TV said:
So at this stage, you're saying you're almost certain the single-SIM global version will stay single SIM?
That's kind of a deal-breaker...
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Maybe only for you. I used to buy dual sim phones in the past, but nowadays network providers have all-in packages which allows me to use my sim in the EU with no extra cost.
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That is correct. But I compared the bands, and they are the exactly the same as the Chinese version. Now I'm sending back the global version and getting the Chinese from wondamobile Monday.
Will be testing it and making the changes I need to make it work. We also tested the launcher issue, and it's an easy fix. So if you NEED dual SIM I think the Chinese version will be fine unless you need languages that are not on the Chinese firmware.
Killer007TV said:
So at this stage, you're saying you're almost certain the single-SIM global version will stay single SIM?
That's kind of a deal-breaker...
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hunhool said:
Maybe only for you. I used to buy dual sim phones in the past, but nowadays network providers have all-in packages which allows me to use my sim in the EU with no extra cost.
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Of course, I forgot to mention it's just my opinion; I have access to some data-only packages which offer unlimited data with decent speeds - these data plans would utilize dual SIM the best.
Anyway, may I ask you couple of questions (mostly just clarifications):
- Is there eSIM possibility for the Find X2 Pro?
- VoLTE and VoWiFi working?
- Is there any notification restriction (autostart - as other guys have mentioned for the Chinese version)?
- Can you set your fingerprint as an access to some apps/password fill (the same way Samsung does it with One UI)?
Thank you Sir!

That's for you. But I have two lines work and private. Thus I need two Sims.
hunhool said:
Maybe only for you. I used to buy dual sim phones in the past, but nowadays network providers have all-in packages which allows me to use my sim in the EU with no extra cost.
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SAO said:
That is correct. But I compared the bands, and they are the exactly the same as the Chinese version. Now I'm sending back the global version and getting the Chinese from wondamobile Monday.
Will be testing it and making the changes I need to make it work. We also tested the launcher issue, and it's an easy fix. So if you NEED dual SIM I think the Chinese version will be fine unless you need languages that are not on the Chinese firmware.
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I still hope the Global ROM will be successfully ported on a Chinese device as, from what I understood, the PDEM software has some limitations regarding notifications and running apps? Furthermore I'd appreciate VoLTE and Hey Google fully running.

I don't think it will be an issue. VOLTE is often a carrier/manufacturer issue. I had that probleme with a op7p before, and there was a quick fix for it... I'm not really worried about it.
As of the ok Google thing...we will see. Let me get the phone between my hand and I'll see that with Mauro.
Killer007TV said:
I still hope the Global ROM will be successfully ported on a Chinese device as, from what I understood, the PDEM software has some limitations regarding notifications and running apps? Furthermore I'd appreciate VoLTE and Hey Google fully running.
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Killer007TV said:
Of course, I forgot to mention it's just my opinion; I have access to some data-only packages which offer unlimited data with decent speeds - these data plans would utilize dual SIM the best.
Anyway, may I ask you couple of questions (mostly just clarifications):
- Is there eSIM possibility for the Find X2 Pro?
- VoLTE and VoWiFi working?
- Is there any notification restriction (autostart - as other guys have mentioned for the Chinese version)?
- Can you set your fingerprint as an access to some apps/password fill (the same way Samsung does it with One UI)?
Thank you Sir!
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As far as I know there is no eSim option (I've read somewhere)
Both VoLTE and VoWIFI working
About notification restrictions: I haven't experienced any issues with notification. WhatsApp, email, telegram, etc works ok.
I'm sure that fingerprint can be set for some apps. I'm sure about that (I think the device asks you at first setup)
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But in the next weeks will be possible to change the international version in dual sim (after your check and try )?

hunhool said:
As far as I know there is no eSim option (I've read somewhere)
Both VoLTE and VoWIFI working
About notification restrictions: I haven't experienced any issues with notification. WhatsApp, email, telegram, etc works ok.
I'm sure that fingerprint can be set for some apps. I'm sure about that (I think the device asks you at first setup)
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Thank you Sir! Maybe two more things (as I am considering the Drillish offer):
- L1 working fine?
- Hey Google working fine (full Google Assistant)?
Thank you very much for your time!

Killer007TV said:
Thank you Sir! Maybe two more things (as I am considering the Drillish offer):
- L1 working fine?
- Hey Google working fine (full Google Assistant)?
Thank you very much for your time!
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Yepp, L1 fine here, but I don't know about hey google. Never used that. Ever.
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I don't think so as apparently OPPO has completly blocked the possibility to add an IMEI. So it's going to be hard.
kleberone said:
But in the next weeks will be possible to change the international version in dual sim (after your check and try )?
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SAO said:
I don't think so as apparently OPPO has completly blocked the possibility to add an IMEI. So it's going to be hard.
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IMEIs are primarily used as an anti-theft measure and adding or changing them is made all but impossible as a result.
I was considering getting this phone (there is a crazy deal for it available in Germany at the moment) but the lack of Dual-SIM is really making me hesitate. It feels so arbitrary that they removed it and practically all devices in this price range feature it. And wireless charging. Who ever though that wireless charging was superfluous -.-

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Dual sim for our Unis?

Hi
Is there any way to have 2 SIM cards in our UNIĀ“s?
Gracias
been wondering of that too. just bought a second hand uni to tried out
I had one for my universal last year and it worked well.
It involved trimming your sim card a bit but it comes with a template to use.
I got mine form ebay and think it was called something like Ghost Dual SIM?
I see this:
http://www.simore.ch/
I think that it is serious product (you can ask the company for special test)
I have this and I use up to 5 different numbers with no problem:
http://www.duosim.com/supersim.html
jolas said:
I have this and I use up to 5 different numbers with no problem:
http://www.duosim.com/supersim.html
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I have bad expertise with simore. My device is Athena
what about duosim? web says you can have connected same time 2 phone numbers.
beginner said:
I have bad expertise with simore. My device is Athena
what about duosim? web says you can have connected same time 2 phone numbers.
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No, I can't have connected same time 2 phone numbers!
But alternative (having one number each time), I have the opportunity to have up to 16 different numbers (and networks), in the same SIM card.
I change from one to another number, through STK service, menu.
jolas said:
No, I can't have connected same time 2 phone numbers!
But alternative (having one number each time), I have the opportunity to have up to 16 different numbers (and networks), in the same SIM card.
I change from one to another number, through STK service, menu.
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Thanks a lot. What products did you purchase? I understood in the web that you have to move some data using your pc from original sims into the sim they provide you.
I don't want to use a cut sim...
beginner said:
Thanks a lot. What products did you purchase? I understood in the web that you have to move some data using your pc from original sims into the sim they provide you.
I don't want to use a cut sim...
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I bought the 'Supersim 16in1 SIM', which comes with a blank sim card that can hold up to 16 numbers, it has the programmer which can read the original SIM and then copy to the supersim card, and the nessesary software.
jolas said:
I bought the 'Supersim 16in1 SIM', which comes with a blank sim card that can hold up to 16 numbers, it has the programmer which can read the original SIM and then copy to the supersim card, and the nessesary software.
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do you need to reset your device in order to activate other line?
does it support HSDPA?
beginner said:
do you need to reset your device in order to activate other line?
does it support HSDPA?
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No need to reset.
Just activate STK menu and choose desired line.
It supports UMTS (I don't know if it is the same or not as HSDPA)
Guys...i have checke Duosim and im impressed...
....but what if one of the local networks is 3G and the other is not?
please guys....any idea...
For that you have to have Duo-X2 (Cut sim) to use. This supports both GSM and 3G. I have ordered which is on its way. The supplier mentioned that both SIMs will be active with autoswitch function.
auto lock
i ve got a prob with ghost dual sim,
after using it, n still being inside my uni, sometime the device is auto locked with a password which i never have set.
only way to pass beyond this password is to reset the device.
any idea how to get rid of this ****.

dual sim card arrangement question

is it possible to use one sim for data and a 2nd sim for calls? or do you need to switch from using sim A 100% to sim B 100%?
if so, what kind of device/adapter would be able to accomplish this
TIA
slapshot136 said:
is it possible to use one sim for data and a 2nd sim for calls? or do you need to switch from using sim A 100% to sim B 100%?
if so, what kind of device/adapter would be able to accomplish this
TIA
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The details provided are'nt clear enough! There are dual sim phones with the same options that u ask for.
Can u expose ur device & model name?
Else r u trying to buy any phones?
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parkourkarthik said:
The details provided are'nt clear enough! There are dual sim phones with the same options that u ask for.
Can u expose ur device & model name?
Else r u trying to buy any phones?
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I don't have any dual sim phone (I have never had one).. it just seemed like an interesting idea due to phone plans.. I currently have a note 2 - could I put in some dual sim adapter to get it to work like that?
slapshot136 said:
I don't have any dual sim phone (I have never had one).. it just seemed like an interesting idea due to phone plans.. I currently have a note 2 - could I put in some dual sim adapter to get it to work like that?
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No chance as far as i know.. U can buy a dual sim phone with that capability
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parkourkarthik said:
U can buy a dual sim phone with that capability
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which dual sim phones have such capabilities? (what would be the closest to a high-end smartphone?)
slapshot136 said:
which dual sim phones have such capabilities? (what would be the closest to a high-end smartphone?)
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U have to search for it, i am using xolo a500 it has the options in default, also i have seen similarities with most models like celkon a98, but have'nt came across the options in samsung or other such models. I think except samsun models others have such functionalities
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Z3 Dual

I just got this device, model D6633. Seems that it's just the same as regular Z3 except for dual SIM card. I was wondering if root will be achievable on this model once its out for the single SIM Z3?
Thanks! Fantastic phone by the way. best allrounder on the market
As my experience with Note 3 Duos, there is no differences in rooting and recovery conpare to 1 sim variant.
Ps: is Z3 Dual enable HSPA on both sim, OP?
Im actually curious about this as well as I have the opportunity to get the Dual sim version but need to root
KarimSalloum said:
I just got this device, model D6633. Seems that it's just the same as regular Z3 except for dual SIM card. I was wondering if root will be achievable on this model once its out for the single SIM Z3?
Thanks! Fantastic phone by the way. best allrounder on the market
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Where did you buy it? Online? I'm looking for importing it from Poland, the only European country who looks to be receiving it.
How's the dual sim's functionality? For example when you receive or do a call or a SMS, is there a button to switch lines or what? Where do you put the second SIM? Is the flap bigger? Sorry for questions, never had a Sony Dual...
theskig said:
Where did you buy it? Online? I'm looking for importing it from Poland, the only European country who looks to be receiving it.
How's the dual sim's functionality? For example when you receive or do a call or a SMS, is there a button to switch lines or what? Where do you put the second SIM? Is the flap bigger? Sorry for questions, never had a Sony Dual...
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The microSD card is moved next to the charger which now has a bigger flap. Both SIMs go next to each other in the right side flap. I'm only using it with 1 SIM card right now, but on the Call buttons and so on there's a small "1" so I'm guessing if I had two SIM cards there would be two buttons or some way to make the call from whichever SIM you want. You cannot also use two simultaneous data connections. the whole setup is pretty neat to be honest. Loving this, can't wait to travel now. lol.
I bought it locally (I live in Beirut, Lebanon) for 800 USD. Pretty steep but that's the way things go around here.
KarimSalloum said:
The microSD card is moved next to the charger which now has a bigger flap. Both SIMs go next to each other in the right side flap. I'm only using it with 1 SIM card right now, but on the Call buttons and so on there's a small "1" so I'm guessing if I had two SIM cards there would be two buttons or some way to make the call from whichever SIM you want. You can also use two simultaneous data connections. the whole setup is pretty neat to be honest. Loving this, can't wait to travel now. lol.
I bought it locally (I live in Beirut, Lebanon) for 800 USD. Pretty steep but that's the way things go around here.
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Interesting, some questions:
1. are the sim, both NanoSIM?
2. both data connection simultaneous, means you can have double speed??? That would be awesome
3. Youyr version is 16GB? Any news if exist 32GB variant?
claudioita said:
Interesting, some questions:
1. are the sim, both NanoSIM?
2. both data connection simultaneous, means you can have double speed??? That would be awesome
3. Youyr version is 16GB? Any news if exist 32GB variant?
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1. Yes
2. I'm extremely sorry, I made a (big) typo. I meant you CANNOT do that. post edited.
3. 16GB. The supplier said only the single SIM Z3 had a 32GB variant. he may be right and just as easily wrong.
all versions here
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/...ria_Z3_D6603_D6633_D6643_D6653_D6616_WP_1.pdf
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claudioita said:
all versions here
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/...ria_Z3_D6603_D6633_D6643_D6653_D6616_WP_1.pdf
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According to this only the D6616 has a 32GB option. That's disappointing as the D6603 will be the 'mainstream' model.
KarimSalloum said:
1. Yes
2. I'm extremely sorry, I made a (big) typo. I meant you CANNOT do that. post edited.
3. 16GB. The supplier said only the single SIM Z3 had a 32GB variant. he may be right and just as easily wrong.
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Could you change your sim to sim 2 slot and test 3G/HSPA with your phone? On my Note 3, sim 2 slot only work in 2G/Edge mode.
how is the battery life on the dual sim version? is it similar to the D6603?
Shudder123 said:
how is the battery life on the dual sim version? is it similar to the D6603?
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I got 7 hours of screen on time and 20 hours of standby and I still had 9%. Unreal. All this without even Greenify and debloating.
Oh I got the answer when OP did not answer my question . I'm looking to buy Z3 Dual in next some days.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55622902
Zanr Zij said:
Oh I got the answer when OP did not answer my question . I'm looking to buy Z3 Dual in next some days.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55622902
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That is inaccurate. check my post on page 1 containing a screenshot that clearly shows you can only use one SIM data connection.
Do you mean, that you can only use one connection at a time or that one slot is 2g/3g/4g and one is only 2g?
KarimSalloum said:
The microSD card is moved next to the charger which now has a bigger flap. Both SIMs go next to each other in the right side flap. I'm only using it with 1 SIM card right now, but on the Call buttons and so on there's a small "1" so I'm guessing if I had two SIM cards there would be two buttons or some way to make the call from whichever SIM you want. You cannot also use two simultaneous data connections. the whole setup is pretty neat to be honest. Loving this, can't wait to travel now. lol.
I bought it locally (I live in Beirut, Lebanon) for 800 USD. Pretty steep but that's the way things go around here.
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Thanks for the infos!
theskig said:
I'm looking for importing it from Poland, the only European country who looks to be receiving it.
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Are you going to import the phone from Poland by going there yourself?
I am also looking for a place to order this phone and ship to Finland.
Fustios said:
Do you mean, that you can only use one connection at a time or that one slot is 2g/3g/4g and one is only 2g?
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He misunderstand my meaning. He installed one sim and don't want to change sim slot to test. As Z3 D6633 manual: only one 3G/4G connection at a give time but on any slot/sim.
My Note 3 Duos has 1 slot can be used as 3G connection, another only for 2G
samusalo said:
Are you going to import the phone from Poland by going there yourself?
I am also looking for a place to order this phone and ship to Finland.
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I'll order it online
But I'll wait one or two months for a price drop.
I just ordered one from eBay. It comes from US.

Esim experience.

Hello,
I attempted to activate esim on t-mobile postpaid that did not go anywhere even though others have activated esim on pixel 3 before the t-mobile ban on postpaid accounts. T-mobile has stopped enabling esim on postpaid accounts for unknown reasons. It only enables esim on certain prepaid accounts and only on iphones.
Any other experiences with t-mobile or other carriers?
Confirmed working on Fi.
alphahere said:
Hello,
I attempted to activate esim on t-mobile postpaid that did not go anywhere even though others have activated esim on pixel 3 before the t-mobile ban on postpaid accounts. T-mobile has stopped enabling esim on postpaid accounts for unknown reasons. It only enables esim on certain prepaid accounts and only on iphones.
Any other experiences with t-mobile or other carriers?
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T-Mobile requires you use there app for esim. The iPhone is the only one that supports it at the Momment
I have T-Mobile and I was able to get the eSim activated on the 3a Xl . All I did was tell them I wanted to do a sim card swap and I provided the EID number. Took them a few minutes and they were done. BTW this was on a Postpaid account.
Demonface.24 said:
I have T-Mobile and I was able to get the eSim activated on the 3a Xl . All I did was tell them I wanted to do a sim card swap and I provided the EID number. Took them a few minutes and they were done. BTW this was on a Postpaid account.
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Phone call or chat? I had no luck with chat.
Did you use the full esim number - that is a very long number. Trying to duplicate your effort.
Thanks
alphahere said:
Hello,
I attempted to activate esim on t-mobile postpaid that did not go anywhere even though others have activated esim on pixel 3 before the t-mobile ban on postpaid accounts. T-mobile has stopped enabling esim on postpaid accounts for unknown reasons. It only enables esim on certain prepaid accounts and only on iphones.
Any other experiences with t-mobile or other carriers?
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called t-mobile and gave them the full esim number. Then uses this guide. Works great!
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/a4507u/esim_works_heres_how_to_activate/
I got it activated on my Pixel 3a XL through chat. They asked me why I was changing sims, and I just told them I wanted to try out esim. They said ok and did the swap. I'm postpaid.
It's easier through chat because of the long EID number.
reddv1 said:
I got it activated on my Pixel 3a XL through chat. They asked me why I was changing sims, and I just told them I wanted to try out esim. They said ok and did the swap. I'm postpaid.
It's easier through chat because of the long EID number.
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I guess I've had really bad luck because I have not been able to get esim activated with chat twice. That's the way it goes we'll try again. It is hit and miss.
Thanks guys for the information. Did another chat this morning asking for sim activation. Did not mention esim. Completed in about 2 minutes did not even have to reboot my phone. Nice. I can use the physical sim slot for something else now.
alphahere said:
Thanks guys for the information. Did another chat this morning asking for sim activation. Did not mention esim. Completed in about 2 minutes did not even have to reboot my phone. Nice. I can use the physical sim slot for something else now.
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Yep! Throw in a micro sd card! ?????
seniorstew said:
Yep! Throw in a micro sd card! ??
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Generally curious as I am new to the Android side of things. What can you use the SIM slot for if you do esim? What is the benefit outside of saying you don't need a physical SIM?
teegraves58 said:
Generally curious as I am new to the Android side of things. What can you use the SIM slot for if you do esim? What is the benefit outside of saying you don't need a physical SIM?
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I use an ATT MVNO Sim when I am not in a t-mobile area which is rare. I don't need two phones any more. One can do the same for the latest iPhone.
Actually there are other phones that have two sims like one plus, but two sim phones are rare in the USA but common in other countries. It has to do with the carriers. It would really nice if this feature discussed on the link below is included in android Q.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...s-half-baked-dual-sim-support-to-the-pixel-3/
So two sims phones hopefully will become the norm in the USA since iPhone has this option and everyone copies Apple. Anyway I could be wrong but I think the Pixel had the esim before the iPhone.
seniorstew said:
Yep! Throw in a micro sd card! ?????
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That would be nice! Aint going to happen!
I'm self employed and having dual sim is huge for me, no more having to carry two phone is big. This implementation sucks compared to real dual sim where you can have both active but it's still ahead of packing two phones around.
alphahere said:
I use an ATT MVNO Sim when I am not in a t-mobile area which is rare. I don't need two phones any more. One can do the same for the latest iPhone.
Actually there are other phones that have two sims like one plus, but two sim phones are rare in the USA but common in other countries. It has to do with the carriers. It would really nice if this feature discussed on the link below is included in android Q.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...s-half-baked-dual-sim-support-to-the-pixel-3/
So two sims phones hopefully will become the norm in the USA since iPhone has this option and everyone copies Apple. Anyway I could be wrong but I think the Pixel had the esim before the iPhone.
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So at the moment, does your Pixel have DSDS capability? And if not (or before you enabled that functionality), are you at least able to take advantage of the physical sim slot by selecting it under network settings as the preferred option when you want to use the ATT network rather than the esim?
I had been using OnePlus phones with their dual SIM functionality for a long time by always keeping a T-Mobile SIM in one while using my China Mobile SIM in the other during my frequent trips into China. This enables me to keep a local number and avoid the internet censorship that is increasingly prevalent is most areas of the country.
DaveinAsia said:
So at the moment, does your Pixel have DSDS capability? And if not (or before you enabled that functionality), are you at least able to take advantage of the physical sim slot by selecting it under network settings as the preferred option when you want to use the ATT network rather than the esim?
I had been using OnePlus phones with their dual SIM functionality for a long time by always keeping a T-Mobile SIM in one while using my China Mobile SIM in the other during my frequent trips into China. This enables me to keep a local number and avoid the internet censorship that is increasingly prevalent is most areas of the country.
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https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...s-half-baked-dual-sim-support-to-the-pixel-3/
Also. Currently using dual SIM in China. You will need to do the following to make network work reliable with all apps. This is a problem with pixel phones.
https://www.evil42.com/index.php/archives/17/
I had this problem when I arrived in China. Now everything works great after the above modifications.
alphahere said:
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...s-half-baked-dual-sim-support-to-the-pixel-3/
Also. Currently using dual SIM in China. You will need to do the following to make network work reliable with all apps. This is a problem with pixel phones.
https://www.evil42.com/index.php/archives/17/
I had this problem when I arrived in China. Now everything works great after the above modifications.
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Thanks for replying. However, I didn't really get an answer to what I was looking for. I had also previously read the article in Android Police and I know what DSDS is. My previous OnePlus operated as such. The article suggests that DSDS is no longer an option unless you elected it in an earlier beta release. HOWEVER, I only want to know whether you are able to choose one or the other between your eSIM and your physical SIM slot? You will not get both signals at the same time. I understand that. But I'm just interested to see if I can elect via Settings to choose either the eSIM or a separate SIM card and use that one only.
With respect to the contents of the evil42.com article, I fortunately don't have those problems. Thanks for your help.
DaveinAsia said:
Thanks for replying. However, I didn't really get an answer to what I was looking for. I had also previously read the article in Android Police and I know what DSDS is. My previous OnePlus operated as such. The article suggests that DSDS is no longer an option unless you elected it in an earlier beta release. HOWEVER, I only want to know whether you are able to choose one or the other between your eSIM and your physical SIM slot? You will not get both signals at the same time. I understand that. But I'm just interested to see if I can elect via Settings to choose either the eSIM or a separate SIM card and use that one only.
With respect to the contents of the evil42.com article, I fortunately don't have those problems. Thanks for your help.
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Yes you can switch carrier without reboot.
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alphahere said:
Yes you can switch carrier without reboot.
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Thank you for confirming!

Question SIM Card Manager

I have a Canadian model Galaxy S22 Ultra (Snapdragon) and have an issue with how Samsung handles dual SIM set-up.
Here's my screen under Settings - SIM Card Manager.
https://imgur.com/a/1TjegB4
I want the Bell SIM (physical SIM) to handle most data-intensive tasks, but the Shaw one (eSIM) to handle SMS/MMS/RCS Messaging. It seems that if I set Bell as my Primary SIM, then the Shaw one won't allow MMS or RCS Messaging. It tells me to switch my primary SIM to Shaw if I want to do that.
It's been a while since I had a dual SIM Android phone but I don't recall having similar issues in the past. I don't think it's an APN thing either as these features work if only one SIM is available.
Any ideas? Apparently non-North American units have a more typical SIM Card Manager settings app that lets you specify which SIM is for data and which is for calls.
Maybe a regional Settings difference......?
My Note20 ultra (snapdragon) has more options in this regard:
Any idea if it's possible to get the SIM Card Manager APK from your phone? I doubt it would work but it's worth a try.
Someone in the Reddit thread I made about this mentioned it was indeed a North American thing.
Try either of these - see if it works......
(couldn't find a "SIM card manager".apk file)
Darn. The SIM Toolkit app won't install as it says the Package is invalid,and the SIMMobilityKit one just wouldn't install.
If someone with an S22 Ultra Snapdragon unit outside of North America could try, maybe that'll work
You could try flashing a non-North American stock Snapdragon ROM (e.g. China/ Thailand/ Korea)?
Anyone with a non-North American Snapdragon Galaxy S22 able to extract the SIM Manager app? Don't feel comfortable flashing a foreign ROM in case I brick ny phone or trip Knox
Looks like this is a more complex issue than what I thought. It's not a specific APK that's accessed when accessing the SIM Card Manager. Pulling a logcat reveals a process called "NU.SimCardManagerUtils"
Why Samsung cripples North American phones by limiting functionality of Dual SIM mode is beyond me (well OK, it's likely the carriers, but still.....)
Devhux said:
Anyone with a non-North American Snapdragon Galaxy S22 able to extract the SIM Manager app? Don't feel comfortable flashing a foreign ROM in case I brick ny phone or trip Knox
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FWIW there's pretty much no chance of tripping knox by flashing a signed fw and not unlocking the bootloader (not like you can anyways)
I am also curious at this and probably won't get to try flashing until my 2nd S22U arrives
I believe for some carriers Talk/Text/Data have to be on the same SIM card to make RCS work.
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I believe for some carriers Talk/Text/Data have to be on the same SIM card to make RCS work.
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I would happily disable RCS to get better control over SIM card usage, but I don't think that's the case. RCS is supposed to be network agnostic, well except maybe AT&T where they just flat out hijack RCS.
I really truly wonder why anyone would still use that ****ty carrier tbh.
Yeah,this goes beyond RCS. Even downloading MMS messages from the non-Primary SIM won't work,and I've had no issues on iPhones or other Android devices. Even someone in my original Reddit post commented they can do it with an International phone (admittedly a Note 20, but it appears Samsung has been crippling the North American phones ever since they finally gave us eSIM.
Sadly I'm not a developer, so even if I flashed my phone with a ROM from a different region and compared logcat output from opening the same screen, I likely wouldn't understand what the differences are or what it's actually asking.
The s22 is different to my prior s21 in this way too. Before you could independently choose which sim did voice, data and SMS. Now it's one sim or the other for all three.
Wait, really? Were both from the same region?
If so, sounds like we'll have to try pressuring Samsung to put it back (however feeble that might be).
Devhux said:
Wait, really? Were both from the same region?
If so, sounds like we'll have to try pressuring Samsung to put it back (however feeble that might be).
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I actually think it's simpler the new way. Otherwise I had to toggle three items every time I switched sim.
Devhux said:
Darn. The SIM Toolkit app won't install as it says the Package is invalid,and the SIMMobilityKit one just wouldn't install.
If someone with an S22 Ultra Snapdragon unit outside of North America could try, maybe that'll work
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Did you have any luck with solving this?
dtg7 said:
Did you have any luck with solving this?
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Sadly no.
I am convinced Samsung is doing this in the Americas due to some backdoor deals with the carriers. The carriers do not want us to be able to use different sims for different things. They want you to have to purchase one expensive plan from them. This is the most compelling thing pushing me back towards the Pixel 6 Pro. Glad I still have it.
To overcome the MMS on the non-primary sim, I had to install a third-party messaging app. Pulsesms. I would rather use google messages.
For the phone calls, I just installed google dialer which lets you select the primary calling account (sim).
I have half a mind to file a complaint with my state's consumer protection board. It doesn't seem right that they can place these kinds of restrictions on US handsets, even if you buy it unlocked.
drfundy said:
I am convinced Samsung is doing this in the Americas due to some backdoor deals with the carriers. The carriers do not want us to be able to use different sims for different things. They want you to have to purchase one expensive plan from them. This is the most compelling thing pushing me back towards the Pixel 6 Pro. Glad I still have it.
To overcome the MMS on the non-primary sim, I had to install a third-party messaging app. Pulsesms. I would rather use google messages.
For the phone calls, I just installed google dialer which lets you select the primary calling account (sim).
I have half a mind to file a complaint with my state's consumer protection board. It doesn't seem right that they can place these kinds of restrictions on US handsets, even if you buy it unlocked.
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How do you mean "overcome mms in non primary via third party"? The problem is the non primary can't be used for data, and mms requires data.
The main problem here is use of data. Default sim for calling and texting can be set per contact thru the Samsung phone app. But data can't be switched to non primary. That's what there's no workaround for right now.
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How do you mean "overcome mms in non primary via third party"? The problem is the non primary can't be used for data, and mms requires data.
The main problem here is use of data. Default sim for calling and texting can be set per contact thru the Samsung phone app. But data can't be switched to non primary. That's what there's no workaround for right now.
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What I am saying is, that when I use pulsesms as my SMS app, it is able to send MMS using either number. I don't know how it does it, but it does.
With the google phone app, you can pick a sim card as the default for all contacts.

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