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Quick question about tmobile's service

I am currently with Sprint and I honestly can't take it anymore. Data speeds are terrible and when I'm bored at work and want to play with my phone I can't. I have the EVO 3d right now so naturally I'm going to switch to the sensation.
I have two questions, 1 ) how is tmobiles data service? And 2) once u go over your data limit what speeds do they throttle u down to?
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ok i just got t-mobile last month and i don't mind there service my family has it here they say they don't get a lot of dropped calls as far as data goes i think they are realiable i can't say i get a great speed in my apartment but i also live in a odd 4g coverage spot when I'm not home though the speeds are great. as amatter of fact i put a iphone to shame with the speed the guy thought he was something having one lol. but my speeds and coverage are based off the dell streak 7. hope i was helpful

firsttimer44 said:
I am currently with Sprint and I honestly can't take it anymore. Data speeds are terrible and when I'm bored at work and want to play with my phone I can't. I have the EVO 3d right now so naturally I'm going to switch to the sensation.
I have two questions, 1 ) how is tmobiles data service? And 2) once u go over your data limit what speeds do they throttle u down to?
Thanks
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Here is my take on it. I was with AT&T Wireless, Cingular, Sprint, and Verizon and now I have switch to T-Mobile. I switched to T-mobile a couple of weeks ago and the coverage isn't 100% great but I honestly think that HSPA+ is better for the phones today. Its not that fast all the time and we all know LTE is amazing but the battery consumptions of these circuits is insane. I owned the Thunderbolt. 45mins of active LTE use and the phone was DEAD. I would rather have slower data speeds and be able to use the device for longer.
What you can expect with Tmobile is at least 1Mbps if you haven't gone over your data allocation. After that you can expect about 300-800kbps. The highest data rate i've seen on tmobile is about 8Mbps. You probably won't have too much less coverage than Sprint but there is far less coverage than Verizon and At&t.

Depending on your coverage - data speeds can be real good (I average 5mbps). Data throttling will depend on the plan you choose.

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Depending on your coverage - data speeds can be real good (I average 5mbps).
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T-Mobile data is usually great in most average to larger sized cities. You should be ok in Indy but find a T-Mobile friend if you can to verify the speeds where you live.
T-Mobile outside of a city or in a super-dense population like NY can be spotty or slow.

I'm in Indianapolis an I always get 4mbps down an 1.2mbps up I just switched from Sprint u will defiantly see a improvement
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I was a sprint customer, in MY AREA Sprint service went down the crapper. Tmo coverage in my area is fantastic, and has been on my recent travels around the country. Sprint->tmo was well worth it for me. Can't speak for ur coverage area tho.
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I just recently switched from Sprint to T-Mobile. With the speedtest.net app I was averaging 300-500 Kbps with Sprint. I'm averaging anywhere from 7-10 Mbps with T-Mobile. The coverage area is great here where I live, and I actually pay less then I was paying with Sprint.

I am in NYC and I have T-mobile for a long time already, recently switch to Sensation 4G and I am getter in average 3mbps download and 1.2 up.

Speeds are great if you are in an area where they have rolled out HSPA+. I get around 7-9 Mbps up and 1-2 Mbps down. If you reach your cap, they throttle you down to EDGE (200-300 Kbps), but some people have said their speeds go even lower than that.

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Speeds are great if you are in an area where they have rolled out HSPA+. I get around 7-9 Mbps up and 1-2 Mbps down. If you reach your cap, they throttle you down to EDGE (200-300 Kbps), but some people have said their speeds go even lower than that.
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I average 5mb down/ 2mb up outside of Washington DC. However, when I am in a sweet spot I have averaged 8/9mb down 2/3mb up. These are great for not being on wifi. HOWEVER, if you are NOT in a tower-rich area you will hate your service. Riding from Virginia to South Carolina recently (on 95 south and 85 south) i maintatined a 2g connection 80% of the time. This severly limited my internet capabilities and download speeds. It was not until I draove through major cities that a strong signal came up. I was very disappointed in this. Results may vary for you though.

When I'm on EDGE Opera Mini makes life so much better. I go from NV to AZ a few times out of the year and I can browse forums, image boards and etc. with no problems due to the image compression. Loads as fast as 3G would.
Sprint's 3G network is really slow, I don't think you will have speed issues if you switch from Sprint to T-Mobile especially with this being a 42Mbps market. I'm not going to say 7-10Mbps is network wide but you should have at least 1Mbps

I am in Tulsa, OK and average 8.5-10.5 mb down and 1.5-2.5 mb up. I went with the 5gb of data and usually finish my billing cycle with 1/2-1 gb to spare.
My wife usually goes over her 5gb, and does get throttled, but its not unbearable. It's edge, but it works for a couple of days a month. She runs a blog and tethers her phone to our laptop or Iconia tablet.
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I switched from Sprint because every time I had any issue at all, it was several hours on the phone trying to get it fixed. Not to mention trying to find someone in a store that could do more than pull a new phone out of a box.
So far I am happy. The high speed data is much better than the old Evo. But the lower 2G leaves something to be desired. I may get throttled in the future, but the next tier is only the cost of the "4G fee" that Sprint charged me for my evo that I tried to use the two times I was in an area that had it and found out it pretty well sucked.
I don't think you'll loose much by leaving Sprint, unless you like the saying "Can I put you on hold?"

steve austin said:
I average 5mb down/ 2mb up outside of Washington DC. However, when I am in a sweet spot I have averaged 8/9mb down 2/3mb up. These are great for not being on wifi. HOWEVER, if you are NOT in a tower-rich area you will hate your service. Riding from Virginia to South Carolina recently (on 95 south and 85 south) i maintatined a 2g connection 80% of the time. This severly limited my internet capabilities and download speeds. It was not until I draove through major cities that a strong signal came up. I was very disappointed in this. Results may vary for you though.
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That's pretty standard with T-Mobile. If you spend all your time in the city, they are great to use. For travelers... not so much.

I left Verizon for T-Mobile about 6 years ago and never looked back. I live in the SF Bay Area and get about 6-8 Mbps down. Not only T-Mobile will unlock you phone for you. I have bin to Thailand and Mexico with my phone and used none T-mobile sim cards. I am not looking forward to the T-mobile AT&T merger. I think the only people that are going to make out in the deal is AT&T customers.

Im with you OP - I was with Sprint (a convert from AT&T iPhone to the EVO 3D) - I loved the phone but for 2 weeks I tried to live with the Data on Sprint and I just couldnt do it. I have been with Tmobile for 2 weeks and have had NO data issues and I do in fact get a data signal where my Sprint service got nothing (At the Hockey Rink / Etc). I have tested Edge (2G) speeds and they are still faster than what I was pulling from Sprint - So I was happy and so is my wife. I hated to drop the 3D phone, but I needed reliable Data.
Make sure you tell Sprint why you are leaving (if you do) - They argued with me that data is fine and I showed them speed tests on 3 of their phones at 120-175k (one was 1.5Mb, as they stated, but I showed them Wifi was on!!! - Disabled it and down the tubes it went). I then showed my Sensation to them and I was pulling 6Mb (around 6000k down and 2000k up) - They said, "Well, yeah, your bill will be higher" - I pay $5 less and I am on the 5GB plan - and I showed them Edge speeds with the 4G Disabled, where I would get unlimited, and they had no more comments.
Sprint sales people are great, I had no issues with them - but They need a HUGE upgrade to stay in this business.

firsttimer44 said:
I am currently with Sprint and I honestly can't take it anymore. Data speeds are terrible and when I'm bored at work and want to play with my phone I can't. I have the EVO 3d right now so naturally I'm going to switch to the sensation.
I have two questions, 1 ) how is T-Mobiles data service? And 2) once u go over your data limit what speeds do they throttle u down to?
Thanks
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Well for me in Indiana coverage is average with the other two big dogs. Sprint just flat out sucks. I switched from sprint to tmo and never looked back. Sim card based phone service. Better data speeds. More 3g and 4g towers by far.
As for Speed after data cap you go to 2g speed after you hit the cap. Which is way better then being totally cut off or paying overage. plus if Att and Tmo merger goes through the next gen devices will have an amazing coverage because the two network will eventually become one.

I'm down in Atlanta and been with tmo for many moons...I got the g2x and I will honestly say at times the network really bumps and hauls ass. There isn't many times ItS slow....
I usually use around 4-5 gb of data. N the one month I used 6.7gb they said I would b throttled but never was for the remaining week of the cycle..
But with.tmo it all depends on ur area..do ur research if it's not too late.
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firsttimer44 said:
I am currently with Sprint and I honestly can't take it anymore. Data speeds are terrible and when I'm bored at work and want to play with my phone I can't. I have the EVO 3d right now so naturally I'm going to switch to the sensation.
I have two questions, 1 ) how is tmobiles data service? And 2) once u go over your data limit what speeds do they throttle u down to?
Thanks
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(1) Honestly tmobile coverage isn't the best. When you get coverage, it's very good (it's pretty good in Chicago). Your best bet is see if you have any co-worker at your workplace who uses tmobile and test.
(2) Edge speed. I signed up for 2GB. My normal usage is around 1GB (slightly below, my workplace has good wifi and I use wifi most of the time), and get close to 2GB if I use tethering a lot that month. 5GB is $10/month more expensive. Sign up for 2GB and pay $10 to switch to 5GB if you run over, and switch back to 2GB next month.

T-Mobile vs. AT&T Post Pay Plans vs. Straight Talk

T-Mobile vs. AT&T Post Pay Plans vs. Straight Talk
I live in an area where T-Mobile is not the greatest. I have not used AT&T post pay service so I'm not sure if its any better.
Is there a difference in service between post pay and straight talk plans with either company?
What's better post or straight?
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I had been on straight talk for a year and went back to post paid ATT. I have gone over my data limit of 4 gigs two months in a row and am going beck to straight talk next week. Same call towers and service but ST is unlimited everything for $45

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I had been on straight talk for a year and went back to pt. Iost paid ATT. I have gone over my data limit of 4 gigs two months in a row and am going beck to straight talk next week. Same call towers and service but ST is unlimited everything for $45
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ST will get 2.5GB @ LTE speed then you get 2g/edge. Be careful with ST they have cancel people account cause of using too much data.I was thinking about going there but ended up with Tmobile where I get 5 GB @ lte speed. ST customer services sucks from what I heard online.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Stra...gh-speed-data-monthly-and-then-2GEDGE_id47883

Have a look at this forum: http://www.howardforums.com/forumdisplay.php/249-General-Prepaid-discussion

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Have a look at this forum: http://www.howardforums.com/forumdisplay.php/249-General-Prepaid-discussion
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Thanks adibeckett! This site is solid gold, I have a bit of reading to catch up on.
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Been on ST for over a year have used over 2.5 and never had throttling problems it a great way to go for 45 a month.

A lot of it this is going to be regionally specific, and particularly the signal and congestion of T-Mobile vs AT&T in your house and other common places and routes. Check coverage, ask neighbors, friends their coverage experience. That dominates everything else.
In my area (Bay Area) I had a number of key spots (I was on T-mobile PAYG) which had no signal, and AT&T had signal, so I got a StraightTalk AT&T SIM and been on that since January and overall I been happy, enough calls and data for my usage. I got a Nexus 4 so its LTE (if hacked) doesn't get coverage for me but I did bandwidth test and get 2-7Mbits download, 1Mbit upload, each time. I never had a service issue needing to call Straighttalk or ask for support, it has simply worked. I heard the ST CS can suck but I not needed any.
My advice would be to throw a little $ at ST, get both a T-Mobile and AT&T SIM and try both on alternating days as you do your regular stuff and check call and data coverage and quality and then decide which to keep going into month 2 onwards. I knew T-mobile bad for me so went only for AT&T.
$45 plus a little tax/month for unlimited calls, text and I rarely use more than 1GB/month as on Wifi mostly and when away from Wifi its email and navigation mostly for me. I have heard if going over 2GB/month you can warning or kicked off service.

One thing to watch out for with ST is that they throttle/cripple video streaming on LTE or 4G. Watching Youtube videos is pretty much useless unless you switch your phone to 3G. On LTE or 4G the video will keep stopping to buffer every 3-4 seconds and will never pre-load any of the video.
I can't deal with this so I'm dropping ST very soon.

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One thing to watch out for with ST is that they throttle/cripple video streaming on LTE or 4G. Watching Youtube videos is pretty much useless unless you switch your phone to 3G. On LTE or 4G the video will keep stopping to buffer every 3-4 seconds and will never pre-load any of the video.
I can't deal with this so I'm dropping ST very soon.
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Really? My 3G is about 6mbits so that is not fast enough? There are ways around any throttling but they add their own throttles eg encapsulate in a VPN.
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Moto X Pure MVNO Carrier: Ting vs Project Fi

Has anyone here used Project Fi and/or Ting on their Moto X Pure?
I realize from this other thread that there seems to be somewhat limited capabilities on Project Fi (limited to T-Mobile as a sub-carrier; can't switch to Sprint; No WiFi calling). But I'd guess in that situation, your phone is essentially just operating on T-Mobile's network, and is fucntionallty equivalent to a T-Mobile phone, right? The other option is Ting GSM, which also runs on the T-Mobile network.
Has anyone tried either of these services on the Moto X Pure, and can comment? I'd ideally like to go with Project Fi, for it's better billing model and international data roaming support. I'm pretty much sick of paying $110/month to Verizon Wireless for minutes and data that I don't really use (I'm on WiFi all the time, and use my phone as a pocketable computer more than a phone).

I've been using Ting for several years now on multiple different phones, including the Moto X Pure. Ting offers both CDMA and GSM service, but you have to pick one, it can't dynamically switch between them like Fi can. I've had no problems at all getting Ting working with this phone, and I HIGHLY recommend their service. If you are interested in Ting feel free to use this referral code, it will give you (and me) a $25 credit https://zqh79oqpd1.ting.com/. My monthly bill is usually between $30 and $40, with 2 active devices.

Lol don't we love referrals I posted a question on howardforums in cricket section then I got few pms with refferals. If you want to rely on cheap service then go for it even att prepaid or T-Mobile is better.
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I was been on ting for about a month, and it worked great, although I am still waiting on band 12/VOLTE support which should be coming out from motorola soon. The data connection was good enough that I was using more data than I expected, so I just switched over to MetroPCS(TMob) which is $60 for unlimited(21GB).
One irritation with Ting was that tethering only worked on 3g. Which required manually setting the phone to 3g, after enabling the hotspot. You can play with the radio preferences by dialing "*#*#INFO#*#*" from the dialer. Although I have read that you should never mess with the radio Band setting, particularly outside the US.
MetroPCS in contrast does not allow tethering unless you purchase a metro branded phone.
I was able to work around the metro pcs tethering restriction by adding a "tether_dun_required=0" entry to the sqlite provider.settings file, and now it works perfect on LTE with the stock hotspot software.
That workaround may also enable LTE tethering on ting.
So far I am getting great speeds even indoors of about 25 Mbps most places, however the tower at my work is much slower and has typically been 3-7Mbps, but Friday was an abysmal ~1 Mbps.
In some testing I've seen, MetroPCS is about 26% slower than TMobile branded because it gets reduced prioritization. However, it is not throttled like cricket, which performs 78% slower than ATT, and is officially capped at 8Mbps.
If I run into continued periods with poor performance, I may spring the extra $20 for TMobile branded.

Been using Ting for 5 months and it's pretty great. Support is always helpful. I pay an average of $28 per bill and since I was on Sprint previously my service hasn't changed at all. They even randomly gave me a $25 credit which made one of my bills $3.75. Couldnt ask for more.

I use way to much data for these, tmobile has a sweet 30 dollar 5gb plan
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BrianDigital said:
I use way to much data for these, tmobile has a sweet 30 dollar 5gb plan
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Same here, would love unlimited but can't beat this price anywhere.

josephc1991 said:
Same here, would love unlimited but can't beat this price anywhere.
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Cricket is not bad either, normally it's 10gbs for 55 flat with auto pay, I got a promotional 20gb for 55. Which is on AT&T so been really happy with coverage
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josephc1991 said:
Same here, would love unlimited but can't beat this price anywhere.
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I used to use that plan too, but only 100min of talk. I don't talk much, but that is still way too few.

BrianDigital said:
Cricket is not bad either, normally it's 10gbs for 55 flat with auto pay, I got a promotional 20gb for 55. Which is on AT&T so been really happy with coverage
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Yeah, I'm waiting till they do that promo again. Most likely will jump on it when they do.

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned straight talk. I pay $45 a month to run on AT&T's network with unlimited data high speed capped at 5GB. When they gave 3GB of high speed data I would go over occasionally and have to struggle for a few days with the speed equivalent of dial up, but since they started offering 5GB I haven't gone over.

SkuzeeII said:
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned straight talk. I pay $45 a month to run on AT&T's network with unlimited data high speed capped at 5GB. When they gave 3GB of high speed data I would go over occasionally and have to struggle for a few days with the speed equivalent of dial up, but since they started offering 5GB I haven't gone over.
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I use the same plan

BrianDigital said:
Cricket is not bad either, normally it's 10gbs for 55 flat with auto pay, I got a promotional 20gb for 55. Which is on AT&T so been really happy with coverage
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According to carrier tests, cricket is 78% slower than branded ATT, with both reduced prioritization and a throttled 8Mbps cap. Unlimited(21GB) TMobile is available through MetroPCS for $60 which is full-speed(unthrottled) off the tower, but sees speeds 26% slower than TMobile branded do to reduced prioritization during heavy congestion.
If you have TMobile coverage in your area, you may consider this $5 upgrade. MXPE has promised the release of band 12/VOLTE support in the near term, so this should significantly improve performance in heavily shielded buildings, when released.

ErikHellstrom said:
According to carrier tests, cricket is 78% slower than branded ATT, with both reduced prioritization and a throttled 8Mbps cap. Unlimited(21GB) TMobile is available through MetroPCS for $60 which is full-speed(unthrottled) off the tower, but sees speeds 26% slower than TMobile branded do to reduced prioritization during heavy congestion.
If you have TMobile coverage in your area, you may consider this $5 upgrade. MXPE has promised the release of band 12/VOLTE support in the near term, so this should significantly improve performance in heavily shielded buildings, when released.
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Already know of this, with the throttle I wouldn't use a fraction of the bandwidth, a better talking point would be that cricket runs me through a proxy which slows my server ping. I would not go try t mobile as I used them before and get no reception at work. Will pick a Sim if and when we get band 12
It's not like I'm downloading a steam game while watching youtube and tethering to a computer
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It's not like I'm downloading a steam game while watching youtube and tethering to a computer
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But if you got the reception, wouldn't it be worth $5 to know that you could.

If and when we get band 12 I'll try it out
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If and when we get band 12 I'll try it out
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And that is the Million Dollar question. IF and when.

I've been using Project Fi on the Moto X Pure for a few days. It works fine on T-Mobile. WiFi calling and Sprint are not supported.
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SalTNutz said:
I used to use that plan too, but only 100min of talk. I don't talk much, but that is still way too few.
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Get a Google Voice number and the Hangouts Dialer app. You can send and receive calls in the US for free using data or wifi. The call quality isn't great, but it's better than Skype (and Skype costs money.)

If anyone wants to try Ting, if you get a referral code and BYOD a Sprint phone on "Black Friday", you start off with $75 credit (usually it's only $25), so you can experiment all you want and not pay out of pocket for a month or three.

Pixel on MetroPCS

I purchased the Pixel from the Google store, and I'm pretty sure it will work on MetroPCS, I'm just hoping someone who knows a little more about how that aspect of the network works can give me a little more insight.
I'm getting a little sick of paying $130 a month for 1 phone with 16 GB of data, and that is after a 22% discount through work...

twiztidmn said:
I purchased the Pixel from the Google store, and I'm pretty sure it will work on MetroPCS, I'm just hoping someone who knows a little more about how that aspect of the network works can give me a little more insight.
I'm getting a little sick of paying $130 a month for 1 phone with 16 GB of data, and that is after a 22% discount through work...
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I'm confused if you're paying that much why don't you just switch to their parent network(T-Mobile). You'll get much more incentives on a better network for a lower price.

buzzy3970 said:
I'm confused if you're paying that much why don't you just switch to their parent network(T-Mobile). You'll get much more incentives on a better network for a lower price.
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the $130 is my price on Verizon. MetroPCS is $60 a month flat for unlimited data, and it doesn't throttle you down after a certain amount used. My biggest concern was T-Mobile customers having priority on the towers over MetroPCS customers during high congestion. but my friend who has MetroPCS used his all day at the Minnesota State Fair, data, calls, whatever, and never had an issue. That's 200,000+ people in a little over a square mile area, if he wasnt having priority issues then, I doubt I ever will.
It's mostly a question of since I bought the Google version of the Pixel instead of the Verizon version, will I be able to just stick a MetroPCS simcard in it and and have it work.

Oh I see. Was very lost with pricing lol, but yes seeing that metro pcs is a true gsm carrier all the bands for their network should be on the pixel...

It should work just fine. My experience with metro in one of the largest cities in the country (Houston, TX) has been great. I haven't noticed any slower data performance or call drops than when I had TMo proper, and you still get all the TMo perks, like not charging for data for popular apps like Youtube and Spotify (I don't pay for unlimited).

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It should work just fine. My experience with metro in one of the largest cities in the country (Houston, TX) has been great. I haven't noticed any slower data performance or call drops than when I had TMo proper, and you still get all the TMo perks, like not charging for data for popular apps like Youtube and Spotify (I don't pay for unlimited).
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I'll be doing unlimited so that I can use Playstation Vue mobile without issues, and to watch Red Zone once I find another cheap alternative (Going to hate giving up my $1.99 a month access to it through Verizon. Vue charges $39.99 for 6 months). I watched an hour of the Olympics while mobile once and used about 4 GB of data...

I am thinking about going this route... but want to be sure that the Pixel will work with all of the TMobile bands so i'll have good service as well as the Wifi Calling work. Anyone with MetroPCS and a Pixel able to confirm?

** BUMP **
anyone know for sure ? Wifi calling?

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anyone know for sure ? Wifi calling?
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Should work just fine on both WiFi calling and even voice over LTE. The only band the pixel doesn't have is Band 71.

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Should work just fine on both WiFi calling and even voice over LTE. The only band the pixel doesn't have is Band 71.
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Do you know how important Band 71 is?
I ask because I first had a Verizon Branded V20 and brought it to T-Mobile.. The reception was fairly poor around my house.. would barely get 4g .. and seemed to be bouncing towers... but when I sold it and got a T-Mobile Branded V20.. the reception is tons better.. works great. So i just want to make sure Band 71 isn't a primary one and i'll go back to having bad service with a Verizon / Unlocked Pixel version.
Thanks!

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Do you know how important Band 71 is?
I ask because I first had a Verizon Branded V20 and brought it to T-Mobile.. The reception was fairly poor around my house.. would barely get 4g .. and seemed to be bouncing towers... but when I sold it and got a T-Mobile Branded V20.. the reception is tons better.. works great. So i just want to make sure Band 71 isn't a primary one and i'll go back to having bad service with a Verizon / Unlocked Pixel version.
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Band 71 is only for extended LTE. Really isn't that big of a deal. Verizon branded phones are different they have bands that are sometimes locked for Verizon. The only real difference between the Verizon pixel and the pixel from google was the unlock able boot-loader. As for band 71 it's not deployed in some cities and depends on where you live. Th most important band is band 12 which the google pixel has. I've had the pixel for Verizon and never had any problems with service or even download speeds. As for band 71 not even the pixel 2 or the iPhone x have it so you really don't need to worry about it. It should work on Metro pcs, but i believe you need update your imei through the Metro pcs website.

I just picked up a pixel 1 in great condition yesterday and did carrier swap this morning by phone and it works very well. Go for it

Yep! The wife bought me one! So I was able to get it up and running on Friday... been using it all weekend! So far it seems to be working wonderful!

Tmobile merger ruined sprint. They're telling me to get a Tmobile Sim?

We all know 5G is garbage, 4G is fine and 80mb down was fine, but we bought two $1400 paperweights. I even disabled 5G and I have 2 bars and drop calls EVERYWHERE.
Sprint told me that there was an issue getting sprint people on Tmobile and that I needed to go to Tmobile and have them wipe my phone and put a Tmobile Sim.
I'm not comfortable with this but I'm pissed that I'm stuck with this ****ty service. Every time I pass a cell tower my call drops and I have no "mobile network" for miles. Sprint swears getting a Tmobile Sim will fix it but Tmobile has always been a crappy carrier and NO ONE around here has ever had it.
Is doing this a bad idea? I'm told we can't go back to sprint if they do this switch..
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AprilAr said:
We all know 5G is garbage, 4G is fine and 80mb down was fine, but we bought two $1400 paperweights. I even disabled 5G and I have 2 bars and drop calls EVERYWHERE.
Sprint told me that there was an issue getting sprint people on Tmobile and that I needed to go to Tmobile and have them wipe my phone and put a Tmobile Sim.
I'm not comfortable with this but I'm pissed that I'm stuck with this ****ty service. Every time I pass a cell tower my call drops and I have no "mobile network" for miles. Sprint swears getting a Tmobile Sim will fix it but Tmobile has always been a crappy carrier and NO ONE around here has ever had it.
Is doing this a bad idea? I'm told we can't go back to sprint if they do this switch..
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Don't know where you are, but around here (southwest Missouri), Sprint has always been very spotty. I've had T-Mo for the last five years and have used it all over Oklahoma and Missouri. Ive used in in the Dallas-Fort Worth area of Texas. Chicago, Illinois. Northern Arkansas. Parts of Kentucky. Memphis and Nashville, Tennessee. Birmingham, Alabama. Orlando, Melbourne, Tamba Bay, and Clearwater, Florida. And all the roads connecting those places. And I've had great luck with T-Mobile. There's dead spots for sure, but for awhile my work phone was ATT, my personal was T-Mobile, and my hotspot was Verizon. They usually all had the same service and dead spots in the same areas.

AprilAr said:
We all know 5G is garbage, 4G is fine and 80mb down was fine, but we bought two $1400 paperweights. I even disabled 5G and I have 2 bars and drop calls EVERYWHERE.
Sprint told me that there was an issue getting sprint people on Tmobile and that I needed to go to Tmobile and have them wipe my phone and put a Tmobile Sim.
I'm not comfortable with this but I'm pissed that I'm stuck with this ****ty service. Every time I pass a cell tower my call drops and I have no "mobile network" for miles. Sprint swears getting a Tmobile Sim will fix it but Tmobile has always been a crappy carrier and NO ONE around here has ever had it.
Is doing this a bad idea? I'm told we can't go back to sprint if they do this switch..
Thank you
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Sprint *is* t-mobile now. If you're on sprint you're on t-mobile and the company is going to try to make them one-in-the-same moving forward. You're basically saying that you don't want a sprint/t-mobile SIM and want to stick with your sprint/t-mobile SIM. They own all the same towers now so service is the same. They likely mean just get a newer SIM with the newer 4G and 5G support, a SIM that can use *all* the tower types.... It doesn't matter if it's "t mobile" or "sprint". They are the same thing now. If you walk into a sprint store. It's a T-Mobile store. You are already on t-mobile's service, it's just with an outdated SIM that can only use older sprint towers. The new SIM also would support the newer iterations of "4G" and have better coverage. 4G or 5G doesn't matter so much as you're going to want a new sim regardless for maximum service coverage in either.

AprilAr said:
We all know 5G is garbage,
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No, we don't.
Tmobile has always been a crappy carrier
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I've had T-Mobile for several years and I'm pleased with their coverage, customer service, and price.

I have sprint service and after the galaxy note 20 ultra software update, my signal had been spotty on 5g. I went to settings, then general management, then reset, then reset network setting. After I did that, my signal and internet speed has been great. Warning, you will lose all your saved wifi and Bluetooth pairings, but you can set all of them back up. It's worth it.

Time to move on to another carrier , you have plenty of choices in america ??

I read verizon was refarming their network for better coverage. But hey all carriers claim this bs anyway.

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No, we don't.
I've had T-Mobile for several years and I'm pleased with their coverage, customer service, and price.
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I'm glad your 5G signal gives you more than 2mg download, in West Virginia it does not. Nor does it work in Virginia, Maryland or Washington DC but 4G is flawless.
Thanks for the responses everyone. Tmobile doesn't work well in West Virginia and Sprint has always been the go to.
I feel as if I was misled. I recorded the conversation where they said "Sprint towers remain online, we will only be inheriting Tmobile towers." but all Sprint towers went offline here hence no service and only being on roam 24/7.
That night, we dropped $2800 on branded phones. I'm about to just unlock it, root it, get rid of the bloatware and hope for the best.
As of right now, I received a $300 account credit as we do not have service here and they can see on the map where it's black. I hope they get it together and are able to fix the network by the time the credit runs out. Worst case scenario a manager in corporate did agree to cancel our contracts and return the phones even though we got them on launch day. I'll have to wait and see how things pan out.

Totes sucks lol almost faster than my home internet. I have an unlocked running a sprint sim, I only seem to get tmo bands anymore very rarely do I pick up sprint bands even with a sprint airrave device nearby

AprilAr said:
I'm glad your 5G signal gives you more than 2mg download[. ]In West Virginia it does not. Nor does it work in Virginia, Maryland or Washington DC but 4G is flawless.
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I do see now when I look at the T-Mobile coverage map that there are huge black regions that I'm pretty sure weren't previously depicted. I haven't had difficulty yet myself, but I'm sorry you're without coverage.
I feel as if I was misled. I recorded the conversation where they said "Sprint towers remain online, we will only be inheriting Tmobile towers." but all Sprint towers went offline here hence no service and only being on roam 24/7.
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Keeping a record of tech conversations is indeed good (online chat rather that voice works best). But even better is to never trust assurances by tech reps, because they're often not knowledgeable and may pass along rumors or made-up answers. If they tell you something important, ask politely how they know and where you can find confirmation. (That's actually a good practice when dealing with almost anyone about almost anything important.)

TMO = T hird world M obile O perations.
Even more insult to injury for us USA users as we cannot get a proper dual SIM device that will work with two carriers. I have TMO and Verizon. I've been able to use two lines from these carriers since 2018 on my iPhone XS Max. Even though Samsung claims the S20 Ultra and Note 20 Ultra have esim capability they simply don't work in this fashion.