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[Q] MMS in Apps other than Hangouts

Hello all,
For starters, some preliminaries:
ROM: ViperRom 3.2.1
Firmware: Latest (4.4.4)
Kernel, radios: Stock
Has anyone been having trouble with group MMS beyond the Hangouts app? The Hangouts app works like silk when it comes to group MMS - I can send/receive to all my friends (regardless of whether they have a smartphone or cell phone), it can play GIFs within the thread and it doesn't deliver messages at the wrong time (a 5:09pm message gets delivered before a 5:06 pm message). The problem with Hangouts is that it is slow and has odd kinks that drive me insane (when you send a message it doesn't show it unless you exit and reenter the message thread, three second delay to display contact when searching for number). The glaring issue is that it is an app that I simply do not use for it's native purpose - which is to create Hangouts and not use SMS. Nobody I know uses Hangouts, so I only use it for SMS.
I have tried literally every SMS app there is - Handcent, GOSMS, 8SMS, Hello, Textra, ChompSMS, Evolve SMS, Messaging (stock KitKat modified), HTC Messaging.
These apps all have a consistent problem - I cannot communicate with my cell phone friends in group chats. They receive blank messages and cannot read my replies. I've tried modifiying my APN but I am unable to create a new profile in Settings>Networks>APN. This is honestly strange to me because Hangouts works so flawlessly compared to all these other apps. Any suggestions?

genheals said:
Hello all,
For starters, some preliminaries:
ROM: ViperRom 3.2.1
Firmware: Latest (4.4.4)
Kernel, radios: Stock
Has anyone been having trouble with group MMS beyond the Hangouts app? The Hangouts app works like silk when it comes to group MMS - I can send/receive to all my friends (regardless of whether they have a smartphone or cell phone), it can play GIFs within the thread and it doesn't deliver messages at the wrong time (a 5:09pm message gets delivered before a 5:06 pm message). The problem with Hangouts is that it is slow and has odd kinks that drive me insane (when you send a message it doesn't show it unless you exit and reenter the message thread, three second delay to display contact when searching for number). The glaring issue is that it is an app that I simply do not use for it's native purpose - which is to create Hangouts and not use SMS. Nobody I know uses Hangouts, so I only use it for SMS.
I have tried literally every SMS app there is - Handcent, GOSMS, 8SMS, Hello, Textra, ChompSMS, Evolve SMS, Messaging (stock KitKat modified), HTC Messaging.
These apps all have a consistent problem - I cannot communicate with my cell phone friends in group chats. They receive blank messages and cannot read my replies. I've tried modifiying my APN but I am unable to create a new profile in Settings>Networks>APN. This is honestly strange to me because Hangouts works so flawlessly compared to all these other apps. Any suggestions?
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Have you tried Verizon Message+ ? That is what I am using and works well for me. I'm usually not a fan of Verizon Software, but the messaging app has a lot of options and doesn't seam to lag.

jsaxon2 said:
Have you tried Verizon Message+ ? That is what I am using and works well for me. I'm usually not a fan of Verizon Software, but the messaging app has a lot of options and doesn't seam to lag.
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I tried that app. Super clunky, definitely looking for a better alternative.

Interesting.
I have been running Viper also ( until yesterday actually).
I have been using Handcent and group messaging seems to work fine. At least no one has told me otherwise.
I do notice, with Handcent that from time to time SMS/mms messages seem to get hung up for quite a few minutes( see the spinning wheel next to message). I always though that was a network issue. You have me thinking otherwise now..
I have never tried hangouts for SMS. I might give it a whirl.

genheals said:
I tried that app. Super clunky, definitely looking for a better alternative.
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Super clunky, okay. That's one way to describe it. lol. But did it work for group messaging? Have you tried a different rom? Viper is an international rom that has changes made for Verizon to work. Maybe there is a setting or library missing from Viper. Have you asked in that thread to see if anyone else has the same issues on Verizon?

jsaxon2 said:
Super clunky, okay. That's one way to describe it. lol. But did it work for group messaging? Have you tried a different rom? Viper is an international rom that has changes made for Verizon to work. Maybe there is a setting or library missing from Viper. Have you asked in that thread to see if anyone else has the same issues on Verizon?
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I used CleanRom before this...really have no interest in switching ROMs but I see what you mean about it being international. I always had used Hangouts without compliant but it took a serious speed hit when it got updated/I updated to Viper

Tried many of them and constantly been sticking with Textra.

MoNsTeReNeRgY22 said:
Tried many of them and constantly been sticking with Textra.
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I recently discovered this app. Love it, its like what the new google messaging app should have been.

MoNsTeReNeRgY22 said:
Tried many of them and constantly been sticking with Textra.
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+1 on Textra. I had group messaging problems too until this app. There is an option under settings to use MMS for group messaging. I think it's off by default. Try switching it on and see how it goes. It fixed my probs, particularly when texting to/from iDevices.
Sent from my Gunmetal Grey M8

Does textra have gif support in the message threads?

madzozs said:
Does textra have gif support in the message threads?
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Looks like it does. Successfully sent and received one.
Sent from my Gunmetal Grey M8

Textra does not work on Viper, tried that one as well

genheals said:
Textra does not work on Viper, tried that one as well
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UPDATE: Some of the issues I have were actually due to me disabling animations in Developer Settings. Once I re-enabled animations, the issues with Hangouts "hanging" at the second to last message, rather then displaying my newly sent message, went away. The app also seems much smoother on the whole. I guess that disabling animations is a bigger detriment than benefit when it comes to Hangouts.
I still have the same group MMS issues in apps other than Hangout (people with basic feature phones only receive blank lines, rather than text). Hangouts remains the only texting app that works flawlessly with group MMS. It's a shame, because Textra is such a beautiful app.

Replacing Default messaging app on s7

I installed the Verizon messaging+ application and love all the settings and options that it has. I am having an issue with sending videos. Won't send them at all. It also automatically crops them to a size that is compatible with cartier,1mb.
Sending pictures seems spotty as well. They spotify end sometimes but videos won't send at all. Plain sms texting seems fine. Just mms having an issue.
I tried application because it stated it send mms messages over wifi. Something like imessage.
The other popular replacement sms app textra, I don't believe has that.
I am on an AT&T s7 edge and installed1 Verizon messages+ from playstore.
Anyone have any experience with application?1
AnThOnY- S7 Edge

Contacting Verizon they said it's just for Verizon carrier customers.
Blaaaa
Now back to looking for better replacements with popup notifications n video editing before sending.
AnThOnY- S7 Edge

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Yaata and AwSMS send MMS over wifi, at least for T-Mobile. Google Messenger does as well.
Not sure if you're trying to get around the 1MB limit carriers have set for MMS, but if you are, don't bother. It's not going to happen.

Even if sent over wifi there will still be compression?
Yes coming from an iPhone with imessage family could enjoy hires pictures and videos. All that went away when I switched to android.
It would be too much to have them all install something else like hangouts when they been using default messaging applications for years and years.
My only option is sharing link from Google photos but I will have to share my login credentials with everyone or have them all setup an account.
Biggest downfall of Android, not having a unified video calling or sms/mms platform.
AnThOnY- S7 Edge

WhatsApp is quite good for this in my pov. I also quit ios for the s7edge and I have some trouble with my formers imessage groups.
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iTouch24 said:
Even if sent over wifi there will still be compression?
Yes coming from an iPhone with imessage family could enjoy hires pictures and videos. All that went away when I switched to android.
It would be too much to have them all install something else like hangouts when they been using default messaging applications for years and years.
My only option is sharing link from Google photos but I will have to share my login credentials with everyone or have them all setup an account.
Biggest downfall of Android, not having a unified video calling or sms/mms platform.
AnThOnY- S7 Edge
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Apple *might* bring iMessage on Android, in order to get a larger user base, in the meanwhile there are some workarounds, like this (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mdr.sms_integration_for_messages). It does syncronize with Mac only, though. iMessage Chat (you can get apk via google) works - or worked - fully, but I never tried it

Thanks for the info guys.
I am now trying textra. Any users of that? Seems to be a very popular option. So far working good but I just don't see option to send a video from textra. I can send pictures,contacts,gifs, etc but no videos.
I can only go into gallery, select video and send to textra from there.
I must be missing something.
AnThOnY- S7 Edge

Textra was working pretty good. I just had some freezes here n there. Especially when forwarding things using textra.
AnThOnY- S7 Edge

I just downloaded textra and I like it a lot!!

give Handcent Next SMS a try then make sure you enable MMS+

pitbullmommy45245 said:
I just downloaded textra and I like it a lot!!
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I was using Textra but found that it has a problem with group messages, especially if someone in the group is an iPhone user.

YMark said:
I was using Textra but found that it has a problem with group messages, especially if someone in the group is an iPhone user.
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I don't ever send group messages lol.

Issue with Google Messenger

Just received the Mate 9 that is officially released in USA, but discovered couple issues with Google Messenger:
1. Even for those who are in my list of contact, whenever they send me text, I can only seem them as "Unknown sender"
2. Can only receive text but no way to reply.
Any idea?

Hi, know issue, I've switched to Signal

I've also seen this issue pop up randomly. Does anyone know of a fix?
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I went back to stock
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ekerbuddyeker said:
I went back to stock
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Yea, I've done the same just so I didn't have to deal with the annoyance. I do hope though that it gets resolved
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GM works fine for me...stock does not when sending pictures.

Just an observation using OK Google command to send at text.
For example: If I say, Ok Google, Send a text to Joe.
It will let me dictate a text to Joe (in my contacts) but it does not record what I dictated in Huawei's messenger app.
Although it does correctly send the text using Huawei's app.
However, if I use Hangouts it does record what I dictated in the Hangouts app messager.
and the text is sent successfully.
The command I used was, Ok Google, Send a text to Joe using Hangouts.

I've been using Hangouts with GV and I have had zero issues so far

Same here. Also Google keyboard has non active gif option
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deanjen said:
Just received the Mate 9 that is officially released in USA, but discovered couple issues with Google Messenger:
1. Even for those who are in my list of contact, whenever they send me text, I can only seem them as "Unknown sender"
2. Can only receive text but no way to reply.
Any idea?
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I don't know if this will help, but - using the built-in SMS app - I quickly discovered that my contacts' mobile phone numbers must be in the format +1 ########## ("plus 1, space, 10-digit number with no spaces or hyphens"). That at least allowed me to send texts to individuals and see them as senders, but (as noted elsewhere in this forum), the built-in app does not send pictures nor does it handle group texts in MMS properly. Since Huawei warns against using third-party apps due to potential battery drain, I consider this a flawed phone and have requested a refund.

Having the same issue here, even worse with hangouts, in hangouts all texts show in one conversation thread,
I've tried the +1 space number and that didn't fix the issue for me

I had this issue as well unknown sender took the plunge and deleted all my texts and now have no issue with GM.

I tried to switch from stock apps to g-messenger but I experienced issues mentioned here:
* all messages are showing unknown sender
* there no option to reply
is this an issue with the messenger app or the phone version (MHA-L00) ?

The previous message issue is ok for now; just need to create new text message thread and it'll be fine.
The newer issue I'm facing has something to do with pictures in text message. I can send, but cannot receive. One way traffic ain't exactly too much fun at this point.

I had this issue too, even wiping all previous messages didn't work. SMS through Hangouts wasn't working either. I switched to Textra.

Great phone but a bad stock messenger app. So I switched to Google Messenger and the problems began with not receiving MMS. This needs to be fixed!
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2007jchill said:
I had this issue as well unknown sender took the plunge and deleted all my texts and now have no issue with GM.
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This did not work for me.

I downloaded the latest Google messenger apk from apk mirror and now it works. If you download the app from the play store it doesn't receive MMS. Also the only way to get rid of unknown sender is to delete all texts. The version I downloaded was Google Messenger 2.1.060 (3735832-30.phone) (arm) (nodpi) (Android 4.4+)

ron87 said:
I downloaded the latest Google messenger apk from apk mirror and now it works. If you download the app from the play store it doesn't receive MMS. Also the only way to get rid of unknown sender is to delete all texts. The version I downloaded was Google Messenger 2.1.060 (3735832-30.phone) (arm) (nodpi) (Android 4.4+)
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Thanks that tip worked.

Working so far. Thanks.

aknotts415 said:
I've been using Hangouts with GV and I have had zero issues so far
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Does it work if you merge carrier SMS with your Google voice?
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RCS in Android Messages

So I was thinking about using Android messages as my text app and have read it is supposed to have RCS function just like the default app on our Note 8 does. But Everytime I send a text as a test to my fiance there's never a delivered, read or any other RCS notable features. So I'm wondering is this app issues or carrier?

With Textra, this is available. I turned it on and it works. They are fixing the issue with Live messaging right now. I am with AT&T.

Where at in Textra do we turn on RCS? Didn't know that was available yet

I used textra at a time but I really want to use android messages since it seems to be the only app that lets me use Google keyboard to it's fullest. As far as bitmoji and gifs go lol

powerstroke said:
Where at in Textra do we turn on RCS? Didn't know that was available yet
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Same. I remember them talking about it an eternity (more than 6 months) ago, but never saw a mention of it going live; and I'm one to usually read their changelogs. Only reason I havn't set Textra as my default messaging app like I want to.

Poetique said:
Same. I remember them talking about it an eternity (more than 6 months) ago, but never saw a mention of it going live; and I'm one to usually read their changelogs. Only reason I havn't set Textra as my default messaging app like I want to.
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Yeah I messaged support and they said it's on the table but hasn't been officially added yet

According to Textra's Twitter, Google haven't released the API so it's not going to happen until they do

KingVekxin said:
So I was thinking about using Android messages as my text app and have read it is supposed to have RCS function just like the default app on our Note 8 does. But Everytime I send a text as a test to my fiance there's never a delivered, read or any other RCS notable features. So I'm wondering is this app issues or carrier?
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Anyone have an answer to the OP's question? I was wondering the same thing.

brandon_powell said:
Anyone have an answer to the OP's question? I was wondering the same thing.
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AT&T only supports an older version of RCS (not Universal Profile) at the moment. AT&T has it integrated into the bundled samsung messages app so it works there, but Android Messages only supports the current version of RCS (Universal Profile). Hopefully AT&T will upgrade their RCS system soon...

KingVekxin said:
I used textra at a time but I really want to use android messages since it seems to be the only app that lets me use Google keyboard to it's fullest. As far as bitmoji and gifs go lol
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FWIW - It does work to its fullest in Textra. I've been using both for months, and I can insert emoji, GIFs, everything.

But the stock Samsung Messages app does not allow you to message users on iPhone without compressing the hell out of everything. So I don't think RCS is fully up yet on AT&T's side. From everything I've read, universal RCS allows for message sizes similar to iMessage. That's the only thing I miss from iPhone and is why I use Facebook Messenger or Allo for texting now. I'm sick of not being able to send gifs, videos or pictures of decent quality. No apps including Textra work for me without the crazy compression or other limitations.

OEM Pie - anyone else having issues receiving GIFs?

Unless I'm using the stock messaging app, all GIFs come through simply as images. Outgoing GIFs are fine, but incoming ones are not. Anybody else having this issue? If not, are you using the stock messaging app or a third party one (hopefully not Textra or Pulse because they have the same bug I've described).
Stock U12+ w/ Android 9 on software build 2.51.617.1 in USA
(Don't judge me for not rooting my device yet ... I'll do it soon, I promise )

Icculus760 said:
Unless I'm using the stock messaging app, all GIFs come through simply as images. Outgoing GIFs are fine, but incoming ones are not. Anybody else having this issue? If not, are you using the stock messaging app or a third party one (hopefully not Textra or Pulse because they have the same bug I've described).
Stock U12+ w/ Android 9 on software build 2.51.617.1 in USA
(Don't judge me for not rooting my device yet ... I'll do it soon, I promise )
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No issues on my device, just checked. I'm using Google Messenger app.
However, I've got 2.55.401.1 so a bit newer.

Same problem here. On Verizon. I'll try the default app. Having to use pulse currently because of some weird provisioning bug that won't allow me to receive pictures via mms with any other app messaging app except Verizon messages and pulse
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