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Trying to get the recent OTA to work on my Pixel 2, Google edition on Verizon. Rooted with Magisk, but while following the instructions on the Magisk site regarding "uninstalling" Magisk to allow OTA to go through, I am noticing that after I uninstall Magisk without rebooting (as directed), my phone is still rooted. The instructions say not to reboot, else Magisk actually will be uninstalled, so I guess I am confused here.
Furthermore, the update is stalling at "downloading" or "installing" (...after 10 hours still not on step 2...) depending on whether I am on original Play Services or updated Play services, so I am wondering if the Magisk unrooting process is not working properly.
I know I can flash the entire OTA and reroot, but trying to avoid, as I thought this was supposed to work without having to do so.
Thanks in advance!
Search the forum on how to update.
There are a few walk through guides.
Snapshot :
Download factory image
Remove "-w" (so it doesn't wipe user data)
In fastboot, run flashall
You will now be updated without root
Remove pin/fingerprint security (issue with Feb update and TWRP)
Boot TWRP image
Flash TWRP zip
Reboot
Reboot into TWRP
Flash kernel then Magisk (I prefer ElementalX)
Reboot
Reset pin/fingerprint security
Profit.
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Diesel_Jeremiah said:
Search the forum on how to update.
There are a few walk through guides.
Snapshot :
Download factory image
Remove "-w" (so it doesn't wipe user data)
In fastboot, run flashall
You will now be updated without root
Remove pin/fingerprint security (issue with Feb update and TWRP)
Boot TWRP image
Flash TWRP zip
Reboot
Reboot into TWRP
Flash kernel then Magisk (I prefer ElementalX)
Reboot
Reset pin/fingerprint security
Profit.
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Understood, and thanks. I was trying to do this with the Magisk website instructions for taking an OTA normally. Are you saying that this can't be done on Pixel 2?
amajamar said:
Understood, and thanks. I was trying to do this with the Magisk website instructions for taking an OTA normally. Are you saying that this can't be done on Pixel 2?
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As far as I know, no. OTAs cannot update and maintain root at this time.
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It's been a while since I've visited.
I plan to root with magisk and keep the stock recovery (boot to TWRP to install magisk). In such a scenario, it would still not be possible to update with a normal OTA, as the update process would see the device as compromised, even with a system-less root method. Is this accurate?
floepie said:
It's been a while since I've visited.
I plan to root with magisk and keep the stock recovery (boot to TWRP to install magisk). In such a scenario, it would still not be possible to update with a normal OTA, as the update process would see the device as compromised, even with a system-less root method. Is this accurate?
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Yeah, as Magisk still changes something.
On my Nexus 5X it was possible to download the OTA and save it on a computer, then go to Magisk Manager, restore stock boot.img, reboot to (stock) recovery, sideload OTA via ADB, reboot to bootloader, boot TWRP via fastboot, flash Magisk and then boot your updated phone.
As I didn't test this on my Pixel 2 yet, I can not guarantee, that it works this way. Make sure, you have backups of everything!
That seems like a bunch of extra work to get the OTA. I would use the system image (downloaded from google) and apply it (removing the -w). Once applied then fastboot boot twrp.img to install magisk.
nolimit78 said:
That seems like a bunch of extra work to get the OTA. I would use the system image (downloaded from google) and apply it (removing the -w). Once applied then fastboot boot twrp.img to install magisk.
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I suppose this is what most people do, but it still seems like a pain to keep root. Maybe I will see if I can go rootless for as long as I can stand to see the ads. I really don't know what else I would need for root access for these days. After a bit of hiatus with the iphone, I've grown a bit lazy lately.
My suggestion involves 2.5 steps. It's far less painful than trying to use the OTA. That's what I do and I'm systemless rooted with Magisk.
I used to do the whole system image thing, until I realized that even with the hassle of patching the boot image with Magisk, applying the OTA update is likely faster.
nolimit78 said:
That seems like a bunch of extra work to get the OTA. I would use the system image (downloaded from google) and apply it (removing the -w). Once applied then fastboot boot twrp.img to install magisk.
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I ask before in "guide to root motorla g stylus":
really is no way to work OTA while Magisk installed? i mean some Magisk Hide Props Config, or not install TWRP or anything? i actualy have Nokia 7 Plus (unlocked via unoficial method) and last year while not installed TWRP is possible check system update, install over air (while Magisk is installed), before reboot run MagiskManager, install Magisk to other slot, reboot, started from updated slot with Magisk installed, without need flash stock boot img before ota and flash manualy patched boot img after OTA... sure have Moto G Pro additional check or limitation and this not work? thanks...
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without reaction, then try make separated thread, i actualy have one week "Motorola Moto G Pro" (XT2043-7), rooted, and wait for OTA, UpdateCheck in Settings not show me, try LMSA Rescue/Download and show me same version as have installed QPRS30.80-109-2-7...
Questions:
- Have any user of same phone, without root, already showed Octorber OTA?
- Is on rooted posible UpdateCheck with show if OTA avaiable?
- Have any working solution for OTA update on rooted phone without need connected with PC? Similar or same as i write about Nokia7Plus?
(i mean without flash back stock img, make ota, patch new boot.img file in MagiskManager, flash it via TWRP booted...
i think without PC be sure posible flash back stock boot.img to boot partition, before OTA, maybe download zip of full "rom" and extract boot.img, patch via MagiskManager, but not flash patched
EDIT: Sollution here
The answers to your first two questions are yes. When on stock I successfully updated. And while rooted there was a notification for ota update, it would download, but fall to install. I came across a way to do it without having to connect to pc. Some said it was successful but I was not able to try. It has something to do with placing your original boot.img into a a folder on one of the root directories but I had no idea how in the hell they came up with the system path to the file (encrypted??) Because I didn't have any of the folders on my phone and was to lazy at the time to ask for help. It was also an older thread so I didn't feel like bringing up a thread that old.
without root you updated system to higher (with Ocrober security patches) version than QPRS30.80-109-2-7 (this version have September security patches) ?
second part of you answer i think not understand, with rooted phone, put boot.img in "a" directory in one (which?where?) root folder and OTA services flash it before upgrade/reboot???
please, anyone with "Motorola Moto G Pro" (XT2043-7), channel "reteu", have already displayed update notification for "QPRS30.80-109-2-8" ?
Yesterday i finally get OTA notify with QPRS30.80-109-2-8, with Magisk installed, ofcourse failed install, then i find this solution, to update OTA over Air with Magisk installed without need any steps with PC
Code:
1. Settings System/DeveloperOptions/AutomaticSystemUpdate=Disable
2. Settings System/SystemUpdate/.../SmartUpdate=Disable
3. MagiskManager UninstallMagisk/RestoreImages
4. Settings System/SystemUpdate "doing normal update and wait for finish"
5. After OTA Instralled [B]NOT[/B] Restart
6. MagiskManager MagiskInstall/InstallToInactiveSlotAfterOTA/LetsGo "wait for finish"
7. After Magisk installed tap to Reboot button in Magisk Instalation wIndow...
Very nice writeup. With respect to step 3, I never installed Magisk Manager (I simply did the patch of boot.img) so what should I do to restore image? With respect to step 5, how do I get to that point? Is it a prompt after rebooting?
flroots said:
[...] step 3, I never installed Magisk Manager (I simply did the patch of boot.img) so what should I do to restore image?
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you must have installed Magisk via TWRP (only temporary booted is enough), this make backup image which is latter in MagiskManager used for restore
flroots said:
[...] step 5, how do I get to that point? Is it a prompt after rebooting?
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this is normal OTA screen, is show if you check update and if available, then show progress about installing, only is need after ota finished, not using reboot button in this OTA screen, but make steps 6 and 7
k3dar7 said:
you must have installed Magisk via TWRP (only temporary booted is enough), this make backup image which is latter in MagiskManager used for restore
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I installed Magisk Manager via download of apk file (not TWRP). I then clicked on Magisk and chose "Select and patch a file". The end result was getting root. I never actually did a separate install of Magisk or Magisk Manager. I wonder if your step 3 will work in this case.
k3dar7 said:
this is normal OTA screen, is show if you check update and if available, then show progress about installing, only is need after ota finished, not using reboot button in this OTA screen, but make steps 6 and 7
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Thanks
flroots said:
I installed Magisk Manager via download of apk file (not TWRP). I then clicked on Magisk and chose "Select and patch a file". The end result was getting root. I never actually did a separate install of Magisk or Magisk Manager. I wonder if your step 3 will work in this case.
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Understand, but as i write, you must have installed Magisk via TWRP, with this method, Magisk make backup of boot image to "/data/magisk_backup_SomeRandomStrings/boot.img.gz", this file is used when you doing step 3, but if you only patch stock boot file, then ofcourse this backup is not created... i sugest you:
- revert boot to stock via same way as you flash patched before, but using stock boot.img
- boot TWRP (NOT flash, use command is section "Boot") and install Magisk.zip oficial release
- if on your phone/touchscreen variant not work touchscreen in TWRP, then (while still is booted TWRP) install it using adb
Thanks.
I have a couple questions:
1. Is it true that one shouldn't do an OTA unless the corresponding firmware can be downloaded due to the fact that you will lose root and not be able replace it until the corresponding boot.img can be obtained?
2. When downloading firmware from LMSA, does it download the latest or does it download your current version?
flroots said:
I have a couple questions:
1. Is it true that one shouldn't do an OTA unless the corresponding firmware can be downloaded due to the fact that you will lose root and not be able replace it until the corresponding boot.img can be obtained?
2. When downloading firmware from LMSA, does it download the latest or does it download your current version?
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1. NO - i with Magisk installed, receive OTA October (delayed) and November, and hope with december be same
not need wait for avaiable boot.img, because with "Boot TWRP & Flash MagiskZip" is patched onthefly "any" version of boot partition on device.
2. not sure, i not use LMSA
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1. NO - i with Magisk installed, receive OTA October (delayed) and November, and hope with december be same
not need wait for avaiable boot.img, because with "Boot TWRP & Flash MagiskZip" is patched onthefly "any" version of boot partition on device.
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Thanks, that sounds great. Would you mind elaborating the steps involved? I have TWRP and Magisk installed now.
k3dar7 said:
Yesterday i finally get OTA notify with QPRS30.80-109-2-8, with Magisk installed, ofcourse failed install, then i find this solution, to update OTA over Air with Magisk installed without need any steps with PC
Code:
1. Settings System/DeveloperOptions/AutomaticSystemUpdate=Disable
2. Settings System/SystemUpdate/.../SmartUpdate=Disable
3. MagiskManager UninstallMagisk/RestoreImages
4. Settings System/SystemUpdate "doing normal update and wait for finish"
5. After OTA Instralled [B]NOT[/B] Restart
6. MagiskManager MagiskInstall/InstallToInactiveSlotAfterOTA/LetsGo "wait for finish"
7. After Magisk installed tap to Reboot button in Magisk Instalation wIndow...
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Do these steps cause loss of data? Thanks
flroots said:
Do these steps cause loss of data? Thanks
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i ofcourse not garant ;-) but for me nothing lost, also installed magisk modules is preserved...
k3dar7 said:
Yesterday i finally get OTA notify with QPRS30.80-109-2-8, with Magisk installed, ofcourse failed install, then i find this solution, to update OTA over Air with Magisk installed without need any steps with PC
Code:
1. Settings System/DeveloperOptions/AutomaticSystemUpdate=Disable
2. Settings System/SystemUpdate/.../SmartUpdate=Disable
3. MagiskManager UninstallMagisk/RestoreImages
4. Settings System/SystemUpdate "doing normal update and wait for finish"
5. After OTA Instralled [B]NOT[/B] Restart
6. MagiskManager MagiskInstall/InstallToInactiveSlotAfterOTA/LetsGo "wait for finish"
7. After Magisk installed tap to Reboot button in Magisk Instalation wIndow...
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Tried the above steps, but OTA update unsuccessful. Discovered that phone still rooted so obviously step 3 did not work for me. What should I try next? How about fastboot of original boot.img?
flroots said:
Tried the above steps, but OTA update unsuccessful. Discovered that phone still rooted so obviously step 3 did not work for me. What should I try next? How about fastboot of original boot.img?
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step 3 restore boot image(what show you MagiskManager as output while you restore images??), but without reboot you have ofcourse still root, and you can't reboot if you want patch boot in other slot after ota via MagiskManager....
but i don't know reason why OTA failed anyway restoring original boot.img via fastboot be i think possible (not try in MotoGPro but manytime with Nokia7Plus)
k3dar7 said:
step 3 restore boot image(what show you MagiskManager as output while you restore images??), but without reboot you have ofcourse still root, and you can't reboot if you want patch boot in other slot after ota via MagiskManager....
but i don't know reason why OTA failed anyway restoring original boot.img via fastboot be i think possible (not try in MotoGPro but manytime with Nokia7Plus)
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Thanks. Magisk simply says, "restoration done". Once I fastboot boot.img will I need to re-install magisk from scratch or should I continue with steps 6 and 7?
flroots said:
Thanks. Magisk simply says, "restoration done". Once I fastboot boot.img will I need to re-install magisk from scratch or should I continue with steps 6 and 7?
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maybe magisk backup boot.img have already twrp inside if you install twrp before magisk?
anyway, if you flash stock boot.img, then step 6&7 is not applicable, because this need booted rooted system
btw: method above work for me also while i upgrade from Android10 to Android11 ;-)
The last System Update notification received was the Update from Android 11 to Android 12. It installed fine. Can keep up via sideload or a full manual flash, but why no notification of updates?
Are you bootloader unlocked and/or rooted?
I have never received an OTA notice or been able to do OTAs but I rooted as soon as I got my pixel 4a.
There was one update that was offered but it was strange, and was the first and only time a separate AU firmware was made.
My children have pixel 4as and get OTAs just fine.
a1291762 said:
Are you bootloader unlocked and/or rooted?
I have never received an OTA notice or been able to do OTAs but I rooted as soon as I got my pixel 4a
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Bootloader unlocked and rooted from Day 1. I was notified of the update from A11 to A12 and was able to use the system OTA. Otherwise I have sideloaded or flashed the Factory Image.
Even with auto update off in Dev Options, all I read says one shiuld still receive notification of the OTA. Guess I'll contune to sideload
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Are you bootloader unlocked and/or rooted?
I have never received an OTA notice or been able to do OTAs but I rooted as soon as I got my pixel 4a.
There was one update that was offered but it was strange, and was the first and only time a separate AU firmware was made.
My children have pixel 4as and get OTAs just fine.
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How long after update release (usually 5th of the month or so) do they see their 4a updates?
I have a 4a, rooted and unlocked. When new updates come out (I check the https://developers.google.com/android/ota page), I just uninstall magisk from the phone, run the system update, then re-install magisk and re-root. I believe it was Monday night April 3 when I did it last. If you don;t mind the hassle of all the reboots, I find it an easy enough way to keep updated and rooted.
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How long after update release (usually 5th of the month or so) do they see their 4a updates?
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It can vary a little (I think sometimes google stages the roll out?), but it's normally pretty soon after. The April update was already offered and installed.
augggg said:
I just uninstall magisk from the phone, run the system update, then re-install magisk and re-root.
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How do you get the new boot image for rooting after doing the OTA?
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How do you get the new boot image for rooting after doing the OTA?
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I do it by extracting/Magisk patching the boot.img from the Factory Image. Of course I had to sideload the OTA as it didn't show up in System updates.
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How do you get the new boot image for rooting after doing the OTA?
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For 4a, go to the latest factory image here, which is at the bottom of each phone's list of images: https://developers.google.com/android/images#sunfish
Download the factory image, then unzip the file. Go into the folder you get, then unzip the next zip file you see (starts with image-sunfish*), and look for the boot.img file. Should be 64mb
Thanks @augggg and @amphi66.
I use the factory image to upgrade each month. But since I have to download it, I see no value in doing an on-device OTA (ie. Uninstall Magisk, reboot, OTA, etc.)
@augggg mentioned uninstalling Magisk to OTA so I wondered if they had an alternative way of getting the boot image besides downloading the factory image or full OTA (which is a bit harder to unpack, but also includes the whole boot.img).
I suppose one could boot TWRP to extract the new boot.img from the phone and then use Magisk to patch that... But I feel like it'd end up being a lot more work than the few changed lines it takes to flash the factory image, and my download speeds aren't bad enough to make that faster
Since I have to download the full factory image inorder to patch the boot.img, I use the factory image to update as well.
But I would like to know the status of the technique to "uninstall-restore Images" in Magisk, not reboot, update via OTA, not reboot, "install to inactive slot" in Magisk, then finally reboot.
For me, an OTA system update is never found.
lbush said:
Since I have to download the full factory image inorder to patch the boot.img, I use the factory image to update as well.
But I would like to know the status of the technique to "uninstall-restore Images" in Magisk, not reboot, update via OTA, not reboot, "install to inactive slot" in Magisk, then finally reboot.
For me, an OTA system update is never found.
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Exactly. Worked for me once, but have not seen an OTA nofication since
Just a May followup. 10 days w/ innumerable System Update checks and still have not seen the auto-rollout of the May OTA Update. Yes, I can certainly sideload OTA or flash the (already downloaded) Factory Image, but is this a typical delay? I was thinking 2 or 3 days after release. Thanks.
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Just a May followup. 10 days w/ innumerable System Update checks and still have not seen the auto-rollout of the May OTA Update. Yes, I can certainly sideload OTA or flash the (already downloaded) Factory Image, but is this a typical delay? I was thinking 2 or 3 days after release. Thanks.
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Gave up & sideloaded May OTA, followed by flashing the Magisk-patched boot.img to retain root. Still do not know why there was no OTA notification
I cant do normal OTA updates, nor can I install them with the built in installer in settings (that I gained with conversion). Im not exactly sure why and trying to figure this out. Were you able to update as normal to A13?
Its possible I broke something (cant think of what), so Im restoring my after-root twrp "base" backup to see if it can OTA.
Figured Id ask in the meantime...
TimmyP said:
I cant do normal OTA updates, nor can I install them with the built in installer in settings (that I gained with conversion). Im not exactly sure why and trying to figure this out. Were you able to update as normal to A13?
Its possible I broke something (cant think of what), so Im restoring my after-root twrp "base" backup to see if it can OTA.
Figured Id ask in the meantime...
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You have to uninstall magisk/restore images. Then start ota. Then before you reboot go into magisk again and install to opposite slot and reboot . After ota has installed. Stock boot image is the only way it works. It's will fail upon checksum of partitions by google
I figured as I just went back to my base savior A11 rom fresh root, and still nothing. Thank you!
Uninstall magisk it automatically restores boot images right?
*Actually do I need stock boot? I have twrp. Where do I get stock boot image?
Im screwed. Its unable to restore my old image from usb, so Im bricked now. No idea what to do.
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You have to uninstall magisk/restore images. Then start ota. Then before you reboot go into magisk again and install to opposite slot and reboot . After ota has installed. Stock boot image is the only way it works. It's will fail upon checksum of partitions by google
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Do you know how I can get back to stock boot?
NM found it. So to be sure, when i want to move from A11 I need to uninstall Magisk, boot to fastboot, then fastboot flash stock boot.img?
Here
^But I have twrp, so wont restoring just bring me to unlocked bootloader unrooted with twrp? (*still not stock?)
*Sorry for the questions. It just seems TWRP has problems restoring backup completely (or I missed something, I backed up everything in TWRP maybe I dont need to do that?).
Im trying to avoid what happened a couple nights ago, because I lost confidence in TWRP on this phone. Usually, its just something ****s up? Well restore your backup, because you just made one. That didn't work completely (it didn't restore /data), and I had to set up a ton I dont want to do again, unless Im on custom A13 rom. Got savegames!
Thanks for all help.
I was on android 12 with april 2022 security update, so it was a very very early android 12 build. I couldn't update via OTA cause I kept getting "update failed" I was rooted, had data I didn't wanna lose so I just ignored it.
I'm now on A13 with root. what I did was: MSM tool back to A11, update via OTA until I reach final official build, extract the boot file through msmtool, patched it with magisk, flashed it via fastboot, job done.
Couldnt Magisk patch boot image from app? Instead of extracting it? Thats how I did it on 11.
I also dont know how to use msm tool to get to 11, or even where to get files. *I think this is it? General - OnePlus 9 11.2.22.2 (T-Mobile) MSM Download Tool | XDA Forums
*Thats exactly whats happening to me too. update failed. So I guess this would be a sure fix.
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I was on android 12 with april 2022 security update, so it was a very very early android 12 build. I couldn't update via OTA cause I kept getting "update failed" I was rooted, had data I didn't wanna lose so I just ignored it.
I'm now on A13 with root. what I did was: MSM tool back to A11, update via OTA until I reach final official build, extract the boot file through msmtool, patched it with magisk, flashed it via fastboot, job done.
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Wait. How did you unlock bootloader (after MSM put your phone back to lock BL I assume)? Is the option later available on Tmobile roms? Did you need a token?
pubmastervnt said:
I was on android 12 with april 2022 security update, so it was a very very early android 12 build. I couldn't update via OTA cause I kept getting "update failed" I was rooted, had data I didn't wanna lose so I just ignored it.
I'm now on A13 with root. what I did was: MSM tool back to A11, update via OTA until I reach final official build, extract the boot file through msmtool, patched it with magisk, flashed it via fastboot, job done.
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you get update failed bec. of the magisk image. you have to restore to stock image before you download the OTA. in magisk dashboard, go to uninstall magisk. choose RESTORE IMAGES. download the ota. do not reboot. go to magisk and install magisk. choose install Magisk after OTA (or something) then press Let's go. and reboot.
jmadiaga said:
you get update failed bec. of the magisk image. you have to restore to stock image before you download the OTA. in magisk dashboard, go to uninstall magisk. choose RESTORE IMAGES. download the ota. do not reboot. go to magisk and install magisk. choose install Magisk after OTA (or something) then press Let's go. and reboot.
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Doesn't having twrp boot image installed mean that magisk restored twrp image to when before magisk patches it (so it's not actually stock)? Doesn't it just restore a non rooted image with twrp on it?
jmadiaga said:
you get update failed bec. of the magisk image. you have to restore to stock image before you download the OTA. in magisk dashboard, go to uninstall magisk. choose RESTORE IMAGES. download the ota. do not reboot. go to magisk and install magisk. choose install Magisk after OTA (or something) then press Let's go. and reboot.
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This fails if you have TWRP.
pubmastervnt said:
I was on android 12 with april 2022 security update, so it was a very very early android 12 build. I couldn't update via OTA cause I kept getting "update failed" I was rooted, had data I didn't wanna lose so I just ignored it.
I'm now on A13 with root. what I did was: MSM tool back to A11, update via OTA until I reach final official build, extract the boot file through msmtool, patched it with magisk, flashed it via fastboot, job done.
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Are you tmobile? How did you unlock BL on 13?