Oneplus8 vs Nokia 8.3 5G [talking about cameras] - General Topics

Hi!
I am looking into a new phone, and I am in between the OnePlus 8 (not the pro version) and the Nokia 8.3 5G. Mainly I am interested in the cameras as is the main function I use as I travel a lot. Which one of those two (or other phones in the same price range) would you say has the best cameras? Not only considering the megapixels.
Thanks!

Nokia 8.3 5g fot the camera & design, i should answer the other for performance, s/w & flexibility.

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According to the Antutu note, there are several recommendable mobiles.
The first one is oneplus 3T, with Snapdragon 821 processor and the note reaches 162,000. Then is Huawei mate 9, it is favorite for traders. As for the sound, is Vivo Xplay 6, not only with curved screen, also equipped the new ES9038 Hi- Fi chip.What more? Is the xiaomi mix, the screen occupies 91.3%, it advances a lot in tecnology. Finally, with the best design, it is Meizu Pro6.
What do you think is the best cell phone?

Honor 6X vs Xiaomi vs Wileyfox Swift 2

They're all a similar price, with the Honor being the priciest.
Looking for a fairly cheap, fairly decent phone as a backup phone to my iPhone, for when I travel abroad. Something that gives me decent battery, performance and a camera. NFC would be nice too, for Android Pay.
Options are the 6X, Wileyfox Swift 2, or a Xiaomi.
I'd go for the Wileyfox if it had a better CPU - it has a SD 430. The Xiaomi's are decently priced, the Redmi Note 4 (global edition) is about £150 from honorbuy, SD 625 I think. But it lacks NFC, not vital, just would've been nice. Plus the Xiaomi could come with a vendor ROM, and I need to wait for the global version to be released, as I need LTE band 20.
What are my other options? I'd go for the Honor but the build quality is suspect, at least from YouTube videos.
Built quality of honor phones are better on any day than redmis. Plus the camera is way better. Battery is decent as well...1.5 days om regular use. I can stretch SOT upto 10 max and 7 on an average. EU version has nfc and gyro both.
redmi note 4 will have better custom rom support
zingxao said:
They're all a similar price, with the Honor being the priciest.
Looking for a fairly cheap, fairly decent phone as a backup phone to my iPhone, for when I travel abroad. Something that gives me decent battery, performance and a camera. NFC would be nice too, for Android Pay.
Options are the 6X, Wileyfox Swift 2, or a Xiaomi.
I'd go for the Wileyfox if it had a better CPU - it has a SD 430. The Xiaomi's are decently priced, the Redmi Note 4 (global edition) is about £150 from honorbuy, SD 625 I think. But it lacks NFC, not vital, just would've been nice. Plus the Xiaomi could come with a vendor ROM, and I need to wait for the global version to be released, as I need LTE band 20.
What are my other options? I'd go for the Honor but the build quality is suspect, at least from YouTube videos.
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Build quality on the honor is as good as a flagship device. Believe it or not i had the galaxy s6 before this and for me this looks and feels better

Note10 vs Oneplus 7 Pro vs Mate 30 Pro (which would you choose?)

I currently have 2 phones, Mate20Pro for personal use and Note9 for work. I really enjoy using both phones, but I'm thinking about selling them both to buy one of these:
- Note10
- Oneplus 7 Pro
- Mate 30 Pro
I'm contemplating which one to get, and it's very difficult to make up my mind. I love using the S-pen, and actually use it quite a lot, however I also enjoy the night time camera quality of the Mate20Pro just as much. OP7pro is in there due to the beautiful 90hz display, and the software features (although arguably One UI is on par).
If the Note10 came out with a really good night mode for the camera to rival Huawei phones, and had just as good a battery life as the Mate 20 Pro, I'd ask for nothing else (except for maybe the 90hz refresh rate)
If you guys were in my situation, which would you pick, and why?
FYI, the local prices for the phones are:
Note10 - around $1162usd for the plus/pro model with 256gb, but I can get a free Nintendo Switch through carrier promotions which I can sell later. Assuming I get around $240usd, that means I'll be paying around $922usd, with other freebies (like galaxy buds, wireless chargers, etc...)
Oneplus 7 Pro - $664usd
Mate 30 Pro - unreleased, but most likely going to be over $1200usd, with no promotions since Huawei phones are also illegal here.

Choose one from the OnePlus 7 series phones

I've been planning to upgrade from my Lenovo Zuk Z2 Plus to a OnePlus phone for a few months because of OnePlus's wide development support. My first option was 6T because of my budget (~300 for pre-owned). But after these months now I can afford a 7 series. But the confusion is which one to choose.
The Z2 had and has a strong custom ROM support for past years so I can't go for any device without it. That's why I'm going for OP device and it's my wish to own one since it's first launch in 2014.
So far after reading the threads of all 7 series phones including the 7T series, I think 7 Pro is the device with wide range of development support with most custom ROMs. But for my budget I could afford a 7 or 7T maximum or a 7 Pro with 6GB 128. If I pick 7 Pro with 6GB RAM will it perform worse than 8GB one? I'm a casual user but play with rooting, modding and so on. I stopped playing games completely a few years ago so it doesn't matter.
Since the upcoming OP 8 series will most likely with punch hole display which I never like. So if I buy a 7 Pro with 6GB it should last at least the next two years without any issue.
Please help me if I can go with 7 Pro 6GB 128GB, or should pick any bigger spec, or any other series.
I complied the list of OnePlus 7 series ROMs. At present 7 Pro beats the rest in number of ROMs.
OnePlus 7 - Unofficial Lineage OS, Potato OS(Alpha), Kali NetHunter (overlay)
OnePlus 7 Pro - PE, xXX no limits, Evolution X, Havoc OS, BlissRoms, Paranoid Android Quartz (Beta), Unofficial Lineage OS, MIUI 11, crDroid, OmniRom, Elemental X, CarbonROM, Resurrection Remix, Kali NetHunter (overlay), AOSiP 9, and much more OOS based, Pixel based ROMs and many Pie ROMs
OnePlus 7T - OmniRom, AOSiP (Alpha)
OnePlus 7T Pro - OmniRom
niyonsv said:
I've been planning to upgrade from my Lenovo Zuk Z2 Plus to a OnePlus phone for a few months because of OnePlus's wide development support. My first option was 6T because of my budget (~300 for pre-owned). But after these months now I can afford a 7 series. But the confusion is which one to choose.
The Z2 had and has a strong custom ROM support for past years so I can't go for any device without it. That's why I'm going for OP device and it's my wish to own one since it's first launch in 2014.
So far after reading the threads of all 7 series phones including the 7T series, I think 7 Pro is the device with wide range of development support with most custom ROMs. But for my budget I could afford a 7 or 7T maximum or a 7 Pro with 6GB 128. If I pick 7 Pro with 6GB RAM will it perform worse than 8GB one? I'm a casual user but play with rooting, modding and so on. I stopped playing games completely a few years ago so it doesn't matter.
Since the upcoming OP 8 series will most likely with punch hole display which I never like. So if I buy a 7 Pro with 6GB it should last at least the next two years without any issue.
Please help me if I can go with 7 Pro 6GB 128GB, or should pick any bigger spec, or any other series.
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I doubt you'll lose a significant amount of performance going with the cheaper model. If it's any consolation, my OnePlus 3T has the same RAM configuration, and while yes it's slower due to the snapdragon 821, it is still a very solid performer. I believe the Pixel 4 does as well, and OOS is not super bloated or anything like that. If you can swing it, I'd go for one of the 8 GB or 12 GB models, but those seem to be a bit difficult to come across new at this point. It seems like OnePlus may be clearing out their inventory as they had a sale on all of the 7 pro models, and the only one that's left in stock was the 6 GB/128 GB model, but that's pure speculation on my part lol
TL;DR If you can, get the higher RAM model of the 7 Pro, if not, then the 6 GB model should be okay, but that's entirely up to you. You pretty much only lose some multitasking capacity
I just tried my friend's OP 7 Pro for the first time, but unfortunately it's too uncomfortable for my (small) hands. I tried with and without the back cover I found too much difficult to perform daily using apps. The curved screen is very great to look but it isn't user friendly (in my case). My friend has bigger hands he can use the phone very easily.
Everything is great, the 90Hz display, camera, and of course the speakers. It's just a few mm longer in all sides and about some grams heavier than 6T (which too he has) but I found it very difficult to use. I'm very sad that I didn't expect this kinda thing. Don't know what to do ?
mituzora said:
I doubt you'll lose a significant amount of performance going with the cheaper model. If it's any consolation, my OnePlus 3T has the same RAM configuration, and while yes it's slower due to the snapdragon 821, it is still a very solid performer. I believe the Pixel 4 does as well, and OOS is not super bloated or anything like that. If you can swing it, I'd go for one of the 8 GB or 12 GB models, but those seem to be a bit difficult to come across new at this point. It seems like OnePlus may be clearing out their inventory as they had a sale on all of the 7 pro models, and the only one that's left in stock was the 6 GB/128 GB model, but that's pure speculation on my part lol
TL;DR If you can, get the higher RAM model of the 7 Pro, if not, then the 6 GB model should be okay, but that's entirely up to you. You pretty much only lose some multitasking capacity
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Thank you so much for the detailed response but I can't decide if I should buy it or not because I think it won't be comfortable for my usage.
I think I better go for Redmi K20 Pro (Mi 9T Pro). I can get the highest end version 8GB 256GB for $340 with 1 year protection plan. For OnePlus 7 Pro with that spec it costs $600 without any protection plan. Redmi K20 Pro also has a wide range of development support, that's why I chose that. Please let me know your comments.

Last Kirin Standing - An Upgrade Dillema

I guess I'm not the only one around with an old good Mate 20x waiting patiently for this year's new phones revelation firmly determined to upgrade.
And I did some research. I don't want to replace the phone for something worse. I'm not into such a big screen anymore, I prefer something lighter and more ready for one hand manipulation.
There is not much available or coming to the higher class. According to reviews, Galaxy S20 has problems with the main camera, besides Exynos for non-US markets lags significantly behind Qualcomm and it is overpriced. Note is not substantially different. Oppo seems to finish this year's production, its Find X2 pro is currently the best choice but it still has software problems. There is an interesting new kid in the block - Vivo X50 pro plus, but Vivo is so slow regarding system upgrades that is wise to forget it. Otherwise there is another mighty product in the market - Xiaomi Mi 10 pro, its's really ugly according to today's standards and the global software is buggy.
Sure, there are bunch of Huawei phones from Mate 30 pro 5g to P40 pro+, they are still actual and reliable. And a new pair Mate 40 and 40 pro are coming. It's now confirmed and some of their characteristics are known already:
1. Both phones are coming wth curved screens, Mate 40 pro with a waterfall 1080p OLED 90Hz display in dimensions between 6.7 to 6.8 inches, which is just right for my new orientation. The displays of the Chinese manufacturer BOE have been chosen by Huawei for its next high-end smartphone, namely the Mate 40 . The most powerful version of the terminal, the Mate 40 Pro , will have three companies as official suppliers: Samsung Display, LG Display and the aforementioned BOE.
2. They might have 24 and 32MP selfie snappers and Mate 40 phone might have triple settings in the back camera with main 50MP RYBY, 16MP ultra-wide, 3x optical zoom lens respectively, while the Mate 40 Pro version comes with 4 sensors main and wide 50MP RYBY, 5X periscope and a ToF sensor.
3. The battery of phones will have the capacity of 4500-5000 mAh with the support of 66W fast charging technology, and 40W wireless charging.
4. As we already expected both phones come with EMUI 11 on the base of Android 11 (without GMS) and are rumoured to round late September/ Chinese language Nationwide day which falls on October 1, 2020.
5. There are more improvements already speculated as outstanding performance, 5G capabilities, system optimization, ID design, unique features like remote thermometer.
https://www.telefonino.net/notizie/huawei-mate-40-mate-40-pro-display/
https://www.igeekphone.com/huawei-mate-40-series-leaked/
https://sparrowsnews.com/2020/07/24/huawei-mate-40-pro-tempered-film/
https://gadgetfam.in/huawei-mate-40-frame-screen-details-leak-online/
https://www.saudi24news.com/2020/07...-the-upcoming-mate-40-series-of-phones-5.html
All these are good news but there are bad too. Both models supposed to be equipped with the new 5 millimeter SoC dubbed as Kirin 1000/1020. But we know that the producer of this chip TSMC stopped receiving orders on May 15 and all due Kirins must be taken over till September 15 according to the US trade ban. There are rumors that Huawei didn't assure enough chips and that deliverable quantity could only cover 80% of expected Mate production. Not to mention that Huawei might want to save some of these chips for next year's P50 models. Hence the Kirin supposed to be intended only for Chinese market, global Mate 40 phones might come with Mediatek Dimensity 1000+ SoC (Samsung's dual chips policy). What looks like a bad joke: Dimensity 1000+ is not a 5mm chip, it's not equivalent Kirin 1000/1020, it's even well below Snapdragon 865. Make no mistake: in 2021 5g becomes something that makes a difference between phones.
And there is more. The most important improvements of Android 11 seems to be 5g and electronic id documents support (together with car keys replacement). The end of China - US trade war is nowhere in horizon. On the contrary - the CCP aggressive attitude toward China neighbours is bound to bring even greater restrictions. Huawei is working hard to attract developers to its app store but more and more Chinese apps are blacklisted every day. There is not only GMS outage to consider (it could even be bypassed), the growing limitations of use Huawei products puts the new Huawei phones on the risky side.
The bummer is that Huawei is so highly above the rest in R&D investments that there is hardly any decent competition. We'll see what might bring Xiaomi Mi 10 Pro+ and Nokia 9.3 if they are real.
For me there is no upgrade path from 20X.
Maybe ROG Phone 3 if the cameras are great but other than that idk
Derpling said:
For me there is no upgrade path from 20X.
Maybe ROG Phone 3 if the cameras are great but other than that idk
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This is how I feel as well. If Huawei would of simply allowed launcher changes on my phone (china phone) and bootloader unlock so I could eventually move to lineageos it would be perfect. It's one of the only phones that didn't slow after a short time. I feel like once the security updates run out I'm hosed due to not being able to update it to another room.

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