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I am not the developer of this app. I am not a developer either, I am just an experienced user and just found an application that maight be usefull for our X10's.
Sysctl Config, It can be downloaded from the market.
With the appropiate settings, this app can improve performance and battery life. What it does is that it modifies certain kernel parameters related to virtual memory management.
This appication is only intended for advanced users and there is very little documentation on which are the best settings. I personally noticed a performance boost and now the phone is a lot more responsive, the scrolling is smother and it boots up a lot faster.
You should also notice a boost in 3d performance, specially runing high end games, such as asphalt 5 and avatar.
Probably the settings I used improved performance at battery life cost, but I will need to wait until tomorrow to tell since my battery is almost drained right now anyway and I just plugged it in. I also noticed an increase of my quadrant benchmark from around 1300 to over 1500.
After testing for about 3 months, these are the settings I found work best for me:
min free kbytes: 32568
dirty ratio: 5
dirty background ratio: 3
vfs cache pressure: 0
Oom allocating task: Enabled
For some, setting vfs cache pressure to 0 is risky. I can confirm that this setting was causing ramdom reboots on heavy usage, however, I enabled compache using spare parts app posted in this link and the issue went away:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12310102
BTW I am using CM 6.1.1 ROM.
Well, I think such detailed settings is kind of overkill for devices like phones. I'm not sure you could gain much performance, but it worst a try
BTW http://www.linuxinsight.com/proc_sys_vm_hierarchy.html here you could have more explained features that this app provides.
creage said:
Well, I think such detailed settings is kind of overkill for devices like phones. I'm not sure you could gain much performance, but it worst a try
BTW http://www.linuxinsight.com/proc_sys_vm_hierarchy.html here you could have more explained features that this app provides.
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I saw the app in a forum about the G1. I havr no doubt that my phone is more responsive now, but im not sure how this is affectijg my battery.
What settings would you recommend?
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Hey, can anybody post this program download link here? For some reason, i can't download it from market
Farik335 said:
Hey, can anybody post this program download link here? For some reason, i can't download it from market
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maybe you made a typo. type sysctl and it show be the first result.
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maybe you made a typo. type sysctl and it show be the first result.
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Oh, thank you, i'm so stupid. Let's see what we have there...
This seems really promising. I used the settings posted by the OP and definitely noticed a performance improvement. I too have very little knowledge about the best settings to use for our X10s and would appreciate some insight by someone does I'm tentative to really modify any of the settings out of fear of doing irreversible damage...if that's even possible.
Hopefully as more of us become aware of this application we'll collectively be able to find the optimal settings! Btw, anyone know the default X10 settings for this app??
hm the settings from the op drops the linpack score from 34 to 30mflops.
maybe we should play with these settings.
A thread here ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523707
Some more here ---> http://nenolod.net/how-to-improve-user-performance-on-android-phones/
The X10 probably has a BFS kernel which means *some* sysctl commands would NOT execute on our phones.
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This seems really promising. I used the settings posted by the OP and definitely noticed a performance improvement. I too have very little knowledge about the best settings to use for our X10s and would appreciate some insight by someone does I'm tentative to really modify any of the settings out of fear of doing irreversible damage...if that's even possible.
Hopefully as more of us become aware of this application we'll collectively be able to find the optimal settings! Btw, anyone know the default X10 settings for this app??
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I think defaults were 2048, 95, 60, 50 and enabled, respectively.
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setaseti said:
hm the settings from the op drops the linpack score from 34 to 30mflops.
maybe we should play with these settings.
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Try linpack twice in a row. Make sure it loaded the ads before trying. Also try quadrant, make sure u run twice when benchmarking since this will allow the OS to kill some background tasks so the second time should be a little higher.
Im getting linpak 34.96 and quadrant 1565.
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The X10 probably has a BFS kernel which means *some* sysctl commands would NOT execute on our phones.
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I suspect the settings are applied since the values remain the same after rebooting. However i am not sure if this proves anything.
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I suspect the settings are applied since the values remain the same after rebooting. However i am not sure if this proves anything.
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I was actually talking about a few settings I found in one of the pages I linked earlier.
I've used the sysctl app myself and using the exact same values as you are. I feel the phone's 3d performance has taken a hit - let me keep it ON for a couple days and see how it progresses.
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I was actually talking about a few settings I found in one of the pages I linked earlier.
I've used the sysctl app myself and using the exact same values as you are. I feel the phone's 3d performance has taken a hit - let me keep it ON for a couple days and see how it progresses.
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Have you notice a difference in battery life? I cant say if it has improved or worsen it.
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I was actually talking about a few settings I found in one of the pages I linked earlier.
I've used the sysctl app myself and using the exact same values as you are. I feel the phone's 3d performance has taken a hit - let me keep it ON for a couple days and see how it progresses.
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I did see other configurations that could be changed (or not). You can find them in /proc/sys/vm, however I am not sure how to edit such files without a gui, I guess maybe a hex editir would open it, but I would need to try it first.
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Have you notice a difference in battery life? I cant say if it has improved or worsen it.
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I just enabled it a couple hours ago - it's too early to form an opinion, which is why I said i'm planning to keep the settings for atleast 2 days and see how it goes.
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I did see other configurations that could be changed (or not). You can find them in /proc/sys/vm, however I am not sure how to edit such files without a gui, I guess maybe a hex editir would open it, but I would need to try it first.
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Assuming you're rooted, you can use Ghost Commander from the market and use it's inbuilt editor to edit files + save them from within the GUI. Personally, i'd refrain from dabbling with more critical values without full knowledge of what I'm doing.
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I just enabled it a couple hours ago - it's too early to form an opinion, which is why I said i'm planning to keep the settings for atleast 2 days and see how it goes.
Assuming you're rooted, you can use Ghost Commander from the market and use it's inbuilt editor to edit files + save them from within the GUI. Personally, i'd refrain from dabbling with more critical values without full knowledge of what I'm doing.
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I just enabled it a couple hours ago - it's too early to form an opinion, which is why I said i'm planning to keep the settings for atleast 2 days and see how it goes.
I totally get you
I dont mind having to reflash, but i did see a couple of values i would like to change. Ill let you guys know what happens
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^Cheers
Actually, I'm thinking of moving up to Z's 2.2.1 B3 as of now. Should I just go ahead? Just asking 'cause you are running it - is it good enough for everyday use by now?
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Have you notice a difference in battery life? I cant say if it has improved or worsen it.
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Personally my battery life has decreased, by how much is hard to say exactly because I've been a little heavier on my phone today than usual. At this point in the day my battery life is expected to be about 10 more hours and right now it's only reading 4--using the juice plotter app.
The phone does seem to be more responsive though and if I can still get through a whole day of moderately heavy use I'm happy.
Again, hopefully other more knowledgeable people here can post optimal settings for our X10s
*UPDATE* Yeah the settings in the OP definitely kill my battery a lot faster. The phone is more responsive for sure, but at the expense of battery performance. I'm running 2.1 Eternity ROM, dual touch, etc etc if that concerns anybody. I think I'll switch back to the default settings and uninstall this app because my battery life is honestly close to half of what it normally would be, I'm surprised no one else has noticed an impact?? :S
So, with all this talk of over clocked/undervolt kernals, smartass gov, setcpu, and juicedefender, I was wondering what the definitive way to optimize battery is (without doing a bump charge).
I dont need any crazy quadrant scores or anything. I just need a phone that can play the occasional game here and there, surf the web, and text message; all while being lag free.
I have done all the "normal" battery savings like turning off 4g (live in 3g only area anyways), backlight lowered, no live wallpaper, ect. My question is what is the "best" method for squeezing out the most juice?
I know there are MANY opinions as to what the best is, but I thought I would poll the masses here and get their 2 cents on the subject.
Well, I pay attention to my current widget. There's certain areas where battery drain is a problem with mobile data turned on. I turn off mobile data when I'm in those areas. Being mindful of that has been the #1 battery saver for me. In fact, I even run with automatic brightness instead of a very low brightness setting and I get better battery life now than before.
I seem to get better battery on lower, mainly because when I do auto, it goes full blast most of the time, and likes to switch about 20 times from high to low while im texting.
My main question here is out of the more detailed methods (new kernal, setcpu, ect.) works best. I know kernals seem to give better performance and battery to some, but I read some of the kernal builds have some hiccups still.
Just wondering what you guys have found is best and most stable of the "detailed" methods.
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I seem to get better battery on lower
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Of course, I do as well. I was just saying that turning off mobile data in the areas that tend to cause my phone to draw 700+mA saves a significant more amount of power than turning the screen to low.
I'm currently planning to try out setting Tasker to automatically turn off mobile data when connected to problematic towers.
My main question here is out of the more detailed methods (new kernal, setcpu, ect.)
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Well, I'm running BAMF 1.3 with the smartass governor. It saves quite a bit of power and has very little setup (you don't have to set up profiles with setcpu).
The newest Tasker adds CPU frequency control support... it doesn't currently work on the ROM I'm running ... but I'd imagine when we get CM7, it'll work. Presumably you could use that to always scale down the CPU until you open up specific apps that benefit from additional clockspeed. It could save a bit of power.
NEW APP in the market - LTE OnOff - switches phone from 4G to 3G to save batt.
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I'm currently planning to try out setting Tasker to automatically turn off mobile data when connected to problematic towers.
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I purchased Tasker a while back just because it sounds cool, but I've never really found useful tasks to run with it for how I use my device; still looking though!
Yours sounds ideal for some areas I go to. Please remember to share the Tasker profile you come up with for that functionality.
Thanks!
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Well, I'm running BAMF 1.3 with the smartass governor. It saves quite a bit of power and has very little setup (you don't have to set up profiles with setcpu).
The newest Tasker adds CPU frequency control support... it doesn't currently work on the ROM I'm running ... but I'd imagine when we get CM7, it'll work. Presumably you could use that to always scale down the CPU until you open up specific apps that benefit from additional clockspeed. It could save a bit of power.
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Hello guys, Im coming over from the eris/custom rom to TB this past week. I was wondering what kind of life you are experiencing with the custom roms here like BAMF. I haven't rooted it yet but am planning to since the current battery life is not acceptable in my daily life. I love the phone but need to figure out if I can keep it or not by helping my battery life. I have 4g disabled since it is not even avail in my area yet but still only getting 6-7 hrs. Thanks for any help, opinions, or redirects.
hehe...
This is great. Reminds me of hypermiling with my car/hybrid to get the most gas out of it. Well...it's about that time again with fuel costs going up.
So what is the equivalent term of hypermiling for handhelds/phones? Hyper-???
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So what is the equivalent term of hypermiling for handhelds/phones? Hyper-???
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Never mind. I guess the thread title was fine "battery optimization". But those gas/hybrid nerds (like me) love using the term hypermiling.
I like using setcpu profiles or custom kernels
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Hello guys, Im coming over from the eris/custom rom to TB this past week. I was wondering what kind of life you are experiencing with the custom roms here like BAMF. I haven't rooted it yet but am planning to since the current battery life is not acceptable in my daily life. I love the phone but need to figure out if I can keep it or not by helping my battery life. I have 4g disabled since it is not even avail in my area yet but still only getting 6-7 hrs. Thanks for any help, opinions, or redirects.
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6-7 hours? Jeez. I have a fairly stock rom (perfect storm, which is more or less just bloat free) with 4G off, backlight to around 35%, only one gps running - the google one for the HTC weather, I use wifi when at home, I have nothing that pushes except my main gmail and the htc weather, do texting all day, and about an hour of internet a day. With this setup after 16 hours I have always had over 50% battery.
How many things do you have pushing data? Facebook or twitter? And if so what is the interval? Also, how much on the net are you, and how often do you game?
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This is great. Reminds me of hypermiling with my car/hybrid to get the most gas out of it. Well...it's about that time again with fuel costs going up.
So what is the equivalent term of hypermiling for handhelds/phones? Hyper-???
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Battery optimization is just a term I figured work, but hypermiling sounds pretty sexy Increases your battery mileage of course!
I'm using Superpower to disable data connection when the screen off. Seems to be working well.
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6-7 hours? Jeez. I have a fairly stock rom (perfect storm, which is more or less just bloat free) with 4G off, backlight to around 35%, only one gps running - the google one for the HTC weather, I use wifi when at home, I have nothing that pushes except my main gmail and the htc weather, do texting all day, and about an hour of internet a day. With this setup after 16 hours I have always had over 50% battery.
How many things do you have pushing data? Facebook or twitter? And if so what is the interval? Also, how much on the net are you, and how often do you game?
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Never game, 2 gmail accounts, fb few times a day, no twitter, net 2-3 times a day. This is stock sense on the phone though. Thats why I was looking into the dif roms to see what battery life was like with dif kernel on it. I will prob root and toss a rom on there to see if it gets me better life (which im sure it will), but considering waiting until the 16th (rumor out that fairly big update coming and want to see if that may help at all).
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I purchased Tasker a while back just because it sounds cool, but I've never really found useful tasks to run with it for how I use my device; still looking though!
Yours sounds ideal for some areas I go to. Please remember to share the Tasker profile you come up with for that functionality.
Thanks!
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Tutorial on Tasker CPU profiles can be found here
jbh00jh said:
NEW APP in the market - LTE OnOff - switches phone from 4G to 3G to save batt.
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This really is the best way to save battery at the moment.
I made my battery last the whole day after I installed Automatic Task Killer from the market. It kills selected processes as long as the screen is off. I get home after 9 hours at work and I still have ~40% battery left. Before I installed Automatic Task Killer my TB was dead after 9 hours.
There is so much random bloatware on the TB from vzw that it eats the battery fast. I just need to root I had a Eris on a custom ROM before the TB and I could go 2 days easy without a charge.
This seems to be a fix for the time being. Too bad there is no way for developers to make a one click root like on the Eris. I will have to bite the bullet and do it the old fashioned way.
Can you reference where you heard this "April 16th update" rumor? I'd like to read about this one and see the credibility behind it.
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Can you reference where you heard this "April 16th update" rumor? I'd like to read about this one and see the credibility behind it.
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X2
and what is suppose to happen with this update?
I use an app called System Panel that's got all kinds of nifty information available to the curious.
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Can you reference where you heard this "April 16th update" rumor? I'd like to read about this one and see the credibility behind it.
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They are all just rumors (like any other update/upgrade "news") but...
http://htcsource.com/2011/03/rumour-htc-thunderbolt-to-get-gingerbread-update-in-q2-2011/
http://technology.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474979166628
http://www.wirelessgoodness.com/2011/03/27/htc-thunderbolt-getting-android-2-3-gingerbread-update-in-q2/
http://androidcommunity.com/htc-thunderbolt-getting-gingerbread-by-summer-20110326/
Hey all, quick question hopefully you all can help me out with. I am currently having terrible battery issues ever since I flashed my phone initially. Terrible as in 6 hours stand-by my phone would be dead.
Anyhow, I am just trying to figure out who's (which) kernel I am running. The kernel version is 2.6.35.7-I997RUXKG3-CL366622 . I have done searches but biggest problem is, threads usually do not post the version number for me to check what I am running.
I am on Infused 2.1.0 (thx GTG!), but battery life has been garbage on all ROMs so I am certain that is not the issue. Can anyone let me know, me love you long time.
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Hey all, quick question hopefully you all can help me out with. I am currently having terrible battery issues ever since I flashed my phone initially. Terrible as in 6 hours stand-by my phone would be dead.
Anyhow, I am just trying to figure out who's (which) kernel I am running. The kernel version is 2.6.35.7-I997RUXKG3-CL366622 . I have done searches but biggest problem is, threads usually do not post the version number for me to check what I am running.
I am on Infused 2.1.0 (thx GTG!), but battery life has been garbage on all ROMs so I am certain that is not the issue. Can anyone let me know, me love you long time.
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Just the community kernel you can download CPU spy to help with that as well.
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Maybe u just have a bad battery 6 hours is horrible off stand by.
unless you have some other things running thats eating it up. when you check your battery stats whats eating the most power. Display? Android Proccess?
check that out.
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Just the community kernel you can download CPU spy to help with that as well.
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Thanks for suggesting CPU Spy, looks like I am running Infusion-GB which is what I wanted. So something else is killing my battery
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Maybe u just have a bad battery 6 hours is horrible off stand by.
unless you have some other things running thats eating it up. when you check your battery stats whats eating the most power. Display? Android Proccess?
check that out.
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Problem is I bought 2 extra batteries and get exact same life. When I initially bought the phone I would get a days use surprisingly. After that, I have had nothing but god awful drain. I have had almost a dozen android phones and have never encountered such terrible battery life.
I do not have fetch data enabled/gps/widget updates or anything that would normally keep the processor/data churning while in my pocket. Battery use is usually around 40-80% on display, all other categories being minimal (which seems correct).
I'm banging my head on this one, I appreciate you guys replying to my thread
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Thanks for suggesting CPU Spy, looks like I am running Infusion-GB which is what I wanted. So something else is killing my battery
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I'm running GB 1.0 Kernel and I loose 1% every 3 hrs. on standby.
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Problem is I bought 2 extra batteries and get exact same life. When I initially bought the phone I would get a days use surprisingly. After that, I have had nothing but god awful drain. I have had almost a dozen android phones and have never encountered such terrible battery life.
I do not have fetch data enabled/gps/widget updates or anything that would normally keep the processor/data churning while in my pocket. Battery use is usually around 40-80% on display, all other categories being minimal (which seems correct).
I'm banging my head on this one, I appreciate you guys replying to my thread
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Send me a pic of your battery screen I settings
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I'm running GB 1.0 Kernel and I loose 1% every 3 hrs. on standby.
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That's solid! I'll try flashing 1.0 then instead of the 1.1 I'm currently on. Are you using this with Infused 2.1.0?
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That's solid! I'll try flashing 1.0 then instead of the 1.1 I'm currently on. Are you using this with Infused 2.1.0?
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No, I'm running this with Apex 9.2 JVR
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Send me a pic of your battery screen I settings
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Can't post outside links since I'm newer, sent PM with screen capture
1% per 3 hours standby is FREAKING AWESOME..!!!!
Maybe u have some stray app in the background that's using CPU/whatever it is that's eating up ur battery.
Some subtle things u cud try since u said display is taking up 40-80% of battery:
1. Turning off screen auto rotation, turning it on when needed
2. Turning off auto brightness, turning it on to auto when needed
Use SetCPU like people above pointed out and this would let u see what processor states ur phone is spending most time in.
It sounds like for some people, Infusion 1.1 really flakes out. No clue why. I don't overclock so I don't run it.
It's either Infusion 1.1 flaked out, or if you continue having problems with other kernels, you have a rogue app.
Kernels rarely make any significant difference in battery life unless they're broken.
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It sounds like for some people, Infusion 1.1 really flakes out. No clue why. I don't overclock so I don't run it.
It's either Infusion 1.1 flaked out, or if you continue having problems with other kernels, you have a rogue app.
Kernels rarely make any significant difference in battery life unless they're broken.
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Are there any apps I could get that could monitor packets in/out from what I have installed? I have a lot of apps but most are from trusted sources
Running Infusion-GB 1.1 and Infused 2.1.0: I get 1% drain every 3 hours on standby with radio on (reasonable H+ reception) and 1% every 6 hours on flight mode.
It's most likely a defect in your phone or a configuration issue. You really have to be using your phone for at least 4 or 5 hours (screen-on time) over those 6 hours to cut through battery that fast.
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Running Infusion-GB 1.1 and Infused 2.1.0: I get 1% drain every 3 hours on standby with radio on (reasonable H+ reception) and 1% every 6 hours on flight mode.
It's most likely a defect in your phone or a configuration issue. You really have to be using your phone for at least 4 or 5 hours (screen-on time) over those 6 hours to cut through battery that fast.
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Dang, I'd think it's a defective unit too except for when I first got it battery was fantastic. But I'm definitely not a heavy user, most my time is at work and I only occassionaly turn it on to check time/sms
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Dang, I'd think it's a defective unit too except for when I first got it battery was fantastic. But I'm definitely not a heavy user, most my time is at work and I only occassionaly turn it on to check time/sms
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when you go to settings > applications > running services - is there anything there that looks like it shouldn't be there?
i know that there is a process that starts with an "o" that is tied into media hub's protected content (DRM) - eats a ton of battery, and isn't really necessary.
it's also possible that you have the SNS service going, but constantly in a restarting state. this seemed to eat a lot of battery also.
otherwise, i'd do what others have suggested and monitor with CPU spy, and i'd also suggest an app called Better Battery Stats (not available in the market - find it here on XDA by a developer named chamonix). this will let you know if you have any wakelocks that are preventing your phone from reaching deep sleep when it is idle.
definitely sounds like you could have a wakelock or 2 interfering with your phone trying to get into those lower frequencies.
wipe battery stats?
Did you try wiping battery stats?
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Are there any apps I could get that could monitor packets in/out from what I have installed? I have a lot of apps but most are from trusted sources
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Packets in/out isn't what you want unless you also have unusual data usage too. It's wakelock stats you want - look at the BetterBatteryStats app. It used to be only on XDA but apparently it's on the market now.
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Did you try wiping battery stats?
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again - Wiping battery stats does NOTHING on our phone. Don't go blindly telling people to do something on our devices just because it worked on another device. The fuel gauge chip on GalaxyS series phones works in a very different way than HTC phones. (Exception: I think the GSII has a more traditional fuel gauge.)
If you're going to include statistics, PLEASE also try to include your SCREEN ON TIME, BRIGHTNESS, general use, wifi and lte would be good too.
I'm currently on CleanROM 3.0 and love it but thinking of switching to Lite version. worth it for battery savings? halp?
"BEST OF" Threads are not allowed on XDA. It sucks, I know. Because it'd be nice if there could be a place for some discussion... a "this rom is nice but that rom has better battery life" kind of thing
CleanROM is a good ROM, and Scott is an active developer here in the forums. Not sure how much better battery life you'll get from the lite version. I would imagine it'd be a lot because bloatware never helps battery life.
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"BEST OF" Threads are not allowed on XDA. It sucks, I know. Because it'd be nice if there could be a place for some discussion... a "this rom is nice but that rom has better battery life" kind of thing
CleanROM is a good ROM, and Scott is an active developer here in the forums. Not sure how much better battery life you'll get from the lite version. I would imagine it'd be a lot because bloatware never helps battery life.
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i'm confused, i'm not allowed to ask people for recommendations on what ROM has given them these supposed 5-hours screen-on times? I get 2-3 hours and my brightness is at 20% with wifi on on cleanrom 3.0 and im worried I have a defective battery. what's wrong with this question?
Unfortunately XDA Rules don't allow us to say what is the "best" in a specific area. You can ask for what ROM people are running and what screen on time they are getting so that you can determine it yourself.
Even though I'm all for following the rules I'm kinda confused why this rule was ever passed. In the real world there are always "best" of things. It seems this is just an ego protecting type of rule. However it would cause people to fight and say "No I have the best" and etc. People can't handle freedom!
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If you're going to include statistics, PLEASE also try to include your SCREEN ON TIME, BRIGHTNESS, general use, wifi and lte would be good too.
I'm currently on CleanROM 3.0 and love it but thinking of switching to Lite version. worth it for battery savings? halp?
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Here's a slight preview of what is to come on the lite version
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Here's a slight preview of what is to come on the lite version
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I slightly want to kill you, mostly out of jealousy but also for not mentioning your brightness level, LTE on/unavailable, SYNC on/off, usage etc.
But this is enough to make me flash lite tonight after a total discharge. i'm at 44% with 1 hour 30 minutes screen on time. 10 hours 30 mins normal time at 2/10 brightness. (one notch above lowest setting)
is it possible i have a defective battery? or is Lite really that much different?
What's the procedure for switching from Standard to Lite? Backup all apps with titanium, flash dalvik and data cache, install via clockworkmod, then perform a battery calibration?
godfirst said:
Here's a slight preview of what is to come on the lite version
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godfirst said:
Here's a slight preview of what is to come on the lite version
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I'm kind of curious about the extra stuff too with that. Sync, wifi, etc.
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It is possible on CleanRom, I have so many other apps running at the moment that I get no where near that anymore. When you look at what he is running in his screenshots besides the screen he hasnt used much else (3% talk time for example). Now I switched between all three of the cleanRoms through the earlier development and did not notice a huge drop from DE to Lite. I went back to DE because I like it stripped of sense and their is still the debloating. I use FB and twitter so I wasnt going to stay on Lite for long.
I get roughly 8-9 hours a day on 25% brightness 3hrs of screentime but as I said I generally have a lot of other apps running that drain my battery that you may not run. (WiFi on most of the time and in an LTE area). My main drain comes from commuting to work in NYC when the service keeps dropping, which i read drains your battery quicker and it def appears this way. pansi (text messaging app) tends to use a fair amount of cpu power which helps drain my battery as does Defender II (a game).
Personally unless you are going to flash the lite version it wont make that big of a difference, it will depend more on what apps/screen brightness you are going to use.
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It is possible on CleanRom, I have so many other apps running at the moment that I get no where near that anymore. When you look at what he is running in his screenshots besides the screen he hasnt used much else (3% talk time for example). Now I switched between all three of the cleanRoms through the earlier development and did not notice a huge drop from DE to Lite. I went back to DE because I like it stripped of sense and their is still the debloating. I use FB and twitter so I wasnt going to stay on Lite for long.
I get roughly 8-9 hours a day on 25% brightness 3hrs of screentime but as I said I generally have a lot of other apps running that drain my battery that you may not run. (WiFi on most of the time and in an LTE area). My main drain comes from commuting to work in NYC when the service keeps dropping, which i read drains your battery quicker and it def appears this way. pansi (text messaging app) tends to use a fair amount of cpu power which helps drain my battery as does Defender II (a game).
Personally unless you are going to flash the lite version it wont make that big of a difference, it will depend more on what apps/screen brightness you are going to use.
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Your correct,I don't set my screen brightness it's auto,I also don't use social apps like Facebook, etc. I do quite a bit of browsing and flashing. I've made some backups and flashed some mods and some of the apps I use don't even show up, why they don't I have no clue. I don't play mobile games though, which probably take up a lot of usage. I've had so many phones and roms over the years tell a lite ROM fits my agenda. It's still to each own. Just know I'm not just sitting and looking at my screen for over 5 hour of use lol. I'm also in and have LTE which shows in screenshots.
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soapbubble said:
I'm kind of curious about the extra stuff too with that. Sync, wifi, etc.
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Here you go
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How is this?
I am running sick-sense ROM while using the performance battery profile on cpu editor. I have LTE, and auto sync on the whole time while doing some browsing, a couple of hours of tune in radio, 8 mins of calls, some txts via google voice, and a bit of music.
I'm back with more lol My settings are still the same from previous post.
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I'm back with more lol My settings are still the same from previous post.
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any web browsing... it doesnt really show any usage, aside the screen has been on?
Yes,I just flashed the new 2.0 radio as well. I've even listen to some music. It seems that if the app hasn't used a lot of cpu power then it doesn't show up.I
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I found the cleanroms have really great battery life. I gave up Samsung skyrocket because of the poor battery life but with this phone and with that rom in particular I was very impressed. With a full charge I can last all day with a good amount of use (phone calls, texts, auto syncing, and email) and still have 40% or so at days end.
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I am running sick-sense ROM while using the performance battery profile on cpu editor. I have LTE, and auto sync on the whole time while doing some browsing, a couple of hours of tune in radio, 8 mins of calls, some txts via google voice, and a bit of music.
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Have you tried any of the other settings (performance/battery, batterysaver)? I'm currently using cleanrom DE, but I'm a little underwhelmed by the battery life. It could be that I wiped everything and spotify/chrome/redditnews is downloading everything fresh (they have been using quite a bit of data). I guess my usage these past two days have been a little out of the ordinary.
I'm very interested with sick sense though. The battery carrot is very enticing. I'm a bit worried about the journaling though. Will it make it difficult if I want to switch back to another rom?
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Have you tried any of the other settings (performance/battery, batterysaver)? I'm currently using cleanrom DE, but I'm a little underwhelmed by the battery life. It could be that I wiped everything and spotify/chrome/redditnews is downloading everything fresh (they have been using quite a bit of data). I guess my usage these past two days have been a little out of the ordinary.
I'm very interested with sick sense though. The battery carrot is very enticing. I'm a bit worried about the journaling though. Will it make it difficult if I want to switch back to another rom?
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I haven't tried the other profiles yet. I wanted to start off with this profile to see what this rom can really offer under the highest settings. Based on what others have said about the other profiles, the battery saver profile is where it's at if you want maximum battery life out of your phone. As far as flashing other roms and journaling, I don't have any experience doing that because this is my first rom. Also, I don't know if the disabled journaling on this rom impacts flashing other roms and am curious to know as well. Anybody knows if the disabled journaling will keep me from switching roms? I am new to this stuff so bear with me here....
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I haven't tried the other profiles yet. I wanted to start off with this profile to see what this rom can really offer under the highest settings. Based on what others have said about the other profiles, the battery saver profile is where it's at if you want maximum battery life out of your phone. As far as flashing other roms and journaling, I don't have any experience doing that because this is my first rom. Also, I don't know if the disabled journaling on this rom impacts flashing other roms and am curious to know as well. Anybody knows if the disabled journaling will keep me from switching roms? I am new to this stuff so bear with me here....
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Well, in lieu of other responses, what have you found with your current settings? Everything about the same? I have mean, thats pretty good for high performance setting and heavy use, yes?
Is there a way to limit contacts used by Whatsapp to a specific group only ?
When the app is using the entire address book (very large) it seems the battery is draining very fast and the phone gets
extremely hot.
i don't have this problem and i have 785 contacts in my phone book What phone do you use ? What Rom ?
IM+ as an alternative.
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cereal.killer said:
i don't have this problem and i have 785 contacts in my phone book What phone do you use ? What Rom ?
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Captivate with SLIM ICS version 4.1 and Semaphore Kernel. Over 2000 contacts.
Maybe I'll try a different kernel and upgrade to SLIM ICS 4.2 ?
The whatsapp had successfully drained my battery on all he platforms where I used it....
The application is really not good written...
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The whatsapp had successfully drained my battery on all he platforms where I used it....
The application is really not good written...
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kalda01 said:
Captivate with SLIM ICS version 4.1 and Semaphore Kernel. Over 2000 contacts.
Maybe I'll try a different kernel and upgrade to SLIM ICS 4.2 ?
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I use this . http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1624514
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I use this . http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1624514
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Is there a performance advantage when using the PLUS version ?
Maybe just theme?
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kalda01 said:
Is there a performance advantage when using the PLUS version ?
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Just the ability to theming the whatsapp app
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Problem s not with the watsapp..try to use some battery saver apps then check it.
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The problem here is not the app, its not the rom or the device. The problem here is simply that using data drains the battery, speciall when on 3G. Battery drain is just one of those things we have to deal with when we have smart phones. They do more than ordinary dumb phones. Using the 3G radio will greatly decrease the charge because its constantly negotiating for signal and shunting data back and forth. If you want to decrease the drain, chat less, switch to 2G only, send less pics/vids/birthday cards from random website that looks cute.
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I use this . http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1624514
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Thanks for the Whatsapp Plus suggestion! Greatly improved my battery life with a simple dark theme change! Stock Whatsapp colours are waay too bright!
It's a bit strange, my battery drained a lot for the last few days after upgrading Whatsapp to the new version 2.9.4207. my battery drains faster than before, if i could have 1 day with 3G on, it is now only up to 3 hours maximum..
i hope it is not app that causes the problem since i relied on it too much to communicate with frenz..
i'm using An Xperia P btw
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It's a bit strange, my battery drained a lot for the last few days after upgrading Whatsapp to the new version 2.9.4207. my battery drains faster than before, if i could have 1 day with 3G on, it is now only up to 3 hours maximum..
i hope it is not app that causes the problem since i relied on it too much to communicate with frenz..
i'm using An Xperia P btw
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I also have been experiencing increased battery drain in the past few days. The only recent change I have made is installing Whatsapp.
The problem here is not that the app is not well written, but the fact that the app uses data. Any application that uses data constantly will drain your battery, a hot phone usually indicates 3G use, 3G radios tend to get hot when they are used for extended periods. The same thing happens to a USB 3G Modem. The only way to prevent your battery going flat so quick, would be to stop using the device. There is an application somewhere that actually disables your radio (wifi or 3G) for a period, puts the device into deep sleep and then wakes it up to check for notifications. This might help a bit with your problem.