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So, the Pixel 2s camera is amazing! How does Lightroom camera app keep up?

Hi
The camera on Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL is the best imo, and been working great for me.
- Ive been using Lightroom to edit my photos taken by the stock camera app. Never really used the camera app from Lightroom, but I tried it yesterday and it is absolutly amazing when shooting in DNG (RAW) and Professionel mode, where you are able to use manuel control.
Anyone else who has experience with the proffesionel mode in Lightroom with success?
The main question is; in Lightroom you are able to choose HDR photos , and sincs the stock camera app on Pixel 2 use HDR+ as default, I am wondering if anyone has some experience with whether there is a difference between these?
And does any know how it works with Camera HAL HDR+ turned on and using HDR in Lightroom?
Johnny

I got my pixel 2 after the new years holiday. I did some testings with both default camera's normal/ hdr+ / hdr+ enhanced and Adobe Lightroom app raw format, in different lighting conditions. So far I would say without post production and editing, Pixel's default camera app gives everything you need. However there's some raw/dng shots I took with Adobe Lightroom look nicer than google's camera app after editing work done in Camera Raw. I can post some samples if you are interested.

I've been using Lightroom extensively on my iPhone X and the quality of the images (even in JPG) is leaps and bounds ahead of the stock app.
For my recently bought Pixel 2, the experience has been very bad so far. It's five times slower, the quality seems to lack a little and several options are not present or implemented in a worse way than on iOS.
I did not find a way to use the new HDR API (you can activate it in the developer options) with Lightroom yet. The build-in HDR function looks like crap imho.
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I can post some samples if you are interested.
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I am interested in that

Yes please.
Thanks.. Im my self is kinda splitted. Sometimes the app seems to work better in some areas, but not all..

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I can post some samples if you are interested.
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Yes, Please!

I can post some samples if you are interested.
Please do

]Hey guys,
I have been quite busy lately, so this is a brief comparison.
My Pixel 2 took a couple of shots with default camera app in regular, hdr+ and hdr+enhanced modes. If you look at the metadata screenshots, you will find it in the application field, it says:
"walleye-user 8.1.0 OPM1.171019.013 4474084 release-keys" - regular mode
"HDR+ 1.0.177471000z" - HDR+
"HDR+ 1.0.177471000n" - HDR+enhanced
Apprently HDR+enhanced mode merges multiple exposures and create a final result contains the best dynamic range and exposure with good amount of high lights and shadows.
see the back lit tree for reference.
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For Adobe lightroom, I took both regular dng (raw) and hdr dng(multiple exposures raw data merged, similar to "merge hdr" feature in the new desktop Camera Raw plugin) In this case the lighting is quite dramatic and tricky, for the same example you will see that the data captured in regular dng isn't big enough to restore the over exposed sky, but the hdr dng which doubles in file size is able to. ( I will upload full res images later to google photos if you want to compare lightroom hdr raw vs. google camera hdr+enhanced)
but most cases lighroom's regular raw dng is able to give you the same results as google's hdr+ enhanced. see this ocean view. The overexposed sky and under exposed trees are fully restored
when i compared photos from lightroom and default camera app, there's not much difference between processed dng files and HDR+enhanced mode. See screenshots of the ocean - dngs are better in a way that they bring up more details in some shadow areas
more examples will be posted soon. I'm having a problem - I forgot which dng files are untouched straight out of pixel 2, without manual adjustment applied.

Great threat/post, thanks so much! LR on Pixel 2 hdr dng is such a hog, it's unbelievably slow, but I think its the only way to shoot hdr+ dng on the Pixel 2, am I right? I've tried camera nx but while it makes dng files and the previews looks hdr I can't ever get them looking hdr-y, they just look like standard one-shot raw files and no app on windows seems to display tue hdr data, even LR classic cc. Would love some more info / posting on this, and any sample files named with what they are, as I can't tell from a couple of your screenshots.
Thanks so much for this! Have you tried camera nx (7.2 ver works on pixel 2 from december 17, anything more recent crashes on ppening. Also, Manual cam dngs?

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Xiaomi Mi Note 10 Lite come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Sometimes the Autofocus doesn´t work. The Picture isn´t sharp at all. It´s a bug? Did anyone encounter the same problem?

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Sometimes the Autofocus doesn´t work. The Picture isn´t sharp at all. It´s a bug? Did anyone encounter the same problem?
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Yeah I have the same problem. It's like there's always a filter on the photos

Mi Note 10 Lite Astrophotography photo+raw samples
Hello guys, as a photography and astronomy enthusiast, i want to share my amasing experiences with my new Mi Note 10 Lite. Here is the link to most of my original samples.
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How i made these photos:
Most photos have been done with the stock camera in a non-light polluted remote place.
I chose the standard quality for the photos, as "high quality" doesn't increase quality that much, but it takes considerably more space on the phone.
I mostly used ISO6400. (ISO6400 is a bit too noisy, because denoising filter is removing detail in the stars. i would suggest a value between 3200 and 5000, making the photos a bit dimmer)
A exposure time of 30s, and focus set to infinity is mandatory for this kind of photos.
Use a very stable support, use a good tripod on a solid base. I used a car as a support (i placed the phone face down on the roof of the car), but a car is not stable enough because we leaned on it, making the car rock back and forth, and that minor rocking made a lot of photos blurry.[You can't do 30s exposure photos hand-held lol. (anything above 1/4s exposure is blurry)]
Use a bluetooth shutter button (or wireless bluetooth mouse/keyboard, or something else),or use wired headphones with button (carefully, so that you don't pull the phone), or use a timer (5 seconds should be sufficient). [pressing the shutter button, or volume button really shakes up the phone, resulting in a blurry image]
Eliminate any stray light sources (car lights, other phone's light, other lights) because any light that can shine directly or indirectly on the lens of the camera, does affect the final image a lot.
Raw or not raw:
I can say that in the stock camera the raw toggle is done poorly, as it does not save a jpg when shooting raw.
It's easier to edit a non raw photo, and with a bit of talent, excellent photos can be done with non raw (with editing, of course).
I use snapseed to edit the non raw photos on my phone, as it's great, and easy to use.
I use photoshop to edit the raw photos, the whole process takes a lot of time, luma and chroma denoising, color grading, saturation, temperature, are all a nightmare and a half.
Yes, you can get better looking photos with better quality if you use raw, but only if you know what are you doing. (usually raw astronomy photos require lots of tweaking that auto modes don't cover)
I would suggest everybody to not use raw, use the 64mp mode, way less hassle, better experience, great detail.
Google camera astrophotography experience:
I've not tried many google camera ports on this phone (PixelCam_Plus_V2.0, and PX Mod v4.0), but i've had problems with both. (when it comes to astrophotography)
PixelCam does save them after a while, but it takes an unknown amount of time, the results are ok, but i'd like to see what i captured as soon as possible, and it doesn't want to turn on astrophotography mode sometimes.
PX Mod doesn't save astrophotography photos unfortunately.
If someone knows a decent astrophotography gcam (with more than 30s of exposure), please write a reply.
Comparison with Oneplus 5
The oneplus 5 had basically the same settings, but it mostly used ISO3200, i don't know which photos are done with what iso, but assume they all were done with 3200.
Even at ISO3200, the oneplus has lots more noise, but it captures the natural yellow light of the milky way.
I think the Mi Note 10 Lite does a better job at everything, except yellow color.
You can compare side by side the shots, as they were done roughly in the same place.
Tell me your experience.

JoraForever said:
Hello guys, as a photography and astronomy enthusiast, i want to share my amasing experiences with my new Mi Note 10 Lite. Here is the link to most of my original samples.
Tell me your experience.
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DUDE!! Your work is super amazing and I'm quite impressed! Love all of them!

[APP] GCam for Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra [updated on 13/12/2020)

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What is Google Camera (AKA GCam)?
Google Camera is the camera app for the Google Nexus and Google Pixel phones. It is not designed or intended to be run on other phones.
Installation instructions
1 - Click the GCam Finder Link and type /start
2 - Browse the bot by selecting your brand and model.
3 - Download the APK and XML
4 - Load the XML
DOWNLOADS
Moderator strngst doesn't allow telegram links. Probably only from Ad-free (paid) members.
ALTERNATIVE LINKS
Nikita v2.0 APK
XML by Dennis
(READ EVERYTHING BELOW BEFORE ASKING SOMETHING)
How to Load XML's?
(XML's are config files that include all the settings tweaked for a device.
Therefore all the configs are based on personal taste which may suit you or not, that's why it's important for you to try them and use whatever you like most.)
Copy the XML file and paste it into:
(GCam 7) Internal Storage > GCam/Configs7
(IF THOSE FOLDERS DON'T EXIST, CREATE THEM)
To Load a XML open GCam, Double Click on a black area around the shutter button, select the XML Downloaded
and then click on "Restore".)
Your Photos come too dark?
Tap the screen when taking a photo and slide up and down the finger to increase/decrease the exposure of your photo.
This applies to Front and Back Camera(s).
CHOOSE BETWEEN HDR+ AND HDR+ENHANCED
HDR aka (High Dynamic Range) increases the Dynamic Range, the difference between details in the darkest parts of the picture and not washing out in the brightest parts.
HDR+ is just a larger range on this and HDR+ Enhanced even larger again. Basically the phone takes a range of pictures and it combines the underexposed bright parts and the overexposed dark parts into one picture.
If you leave it set to Enhanced, it will almost always give you the best effects and image quality as it gives itself a little longer time to bring together the image.
The only times usually to use HDR+ is when your needing quick snaps of a moving object or if you want a faster shutter image.
SWITCH BETWEEN CAMERAS
Load the XML below and click the small dots on the Viewfinder.​
Attention that this is only a recommendation
THANKS TO @Urnyx05 @Arnova8G2 @S4turno​

Thx for sharing!

Thanks
Thanks for sharing. I will try

Thx a lot

Thanks for sharing sir

I'm on the fence choosing between mi 10 ultra and the pixel 5. Would be great to see some day and low light pics here. I wonder how the Mi10 ultra handles Gcam as in shutter lag after pressing the button, ability to "tap to focus", how fast it processes pictures, and if there is some photo quality drawbacks as purple grain for instance. The stock mi 10 ultra has too much "butification" and skin smoothening for my liking.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=btwTeD7dulo

Funny guy this strngst.

Can anyone confirm that all features of this Gcam works on all four cameras on the Mi 10 Ultra?

fuzzybabybunny said:
Can anyone confirm that all features of this Gcam works on all four cameras on the Mi 10 Ultra?
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Yep. There are 4 "zooms" to choose from, and each are using the specific lenses (verified by covering the camera with fingers).
Unfortunately the tele lens doesn't go to 120x zoom.

ultimatepichu said:
Yep. There are 4 "zooms" to choose from, and each are using the specific lenses (verified by covering the camera with fingers).
Unfortunately the tele lens doesn't go to 120x zoom.
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if you really want to zoom that far with gcam, try the Wichaya port; you can use the 5x lens and then set the digital zoom up to 100x more -- recommend not going past 30x digital zoom since the viewfinder doesn't show it, but still that's 150x total

Dennis XML file is pretty good, but sadly extremely buggy :/ hope there will be other XML files in the future

3 Questions:
- Does this mean that the default camera will be replaced with GCam?
- What if I want to delete GCam completely. Can all this be undone?
- Is it better than the Stock Camera?

caiclo said:
3 Questions:
- Does this mean that the default camera will be replaced with GCam?
- What if I want to delete GCam completely. Can all this be undone?
- Is it better than the Stock Camera?
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It's simply a standalone app, it will not replace your system camera app.
You can use one or the other as you see fit and uninstall GCam normally at any point.
From my testing, I can't see it as a direct upgrade over the stock camera app, it may just be that Google's post-processing can produce better results in certain situations.
However, it becomes apparent that GCam doesn't natively support this phone, some features of the stock camera are outright missing, such as: 8k or 960fps video, 120x zoom and more
Personally, I prefer the original stock camera app (from the original chinese ROM).

New Nikita GCam update is released with few fixes, when tested with this Dennie's Config XML its giving pinkish overlay for all photos.

Fixed the issue by using the latest Config xml

Just to provide a clear update to available GCam ports and their respective configurations, saving you the need to search through the Telegram GCam group for Mi 10 / Pro / Ultra.
Available ports for the Mi 10 Ultra:
1. Nikita GCam
2. Wichaya GCam
Available configs for the Mi 10 Ultra: see attachments
Both port versions are the latest at the time of writing and they work well with the respective config files (made by Dennis) - tested them out myself.

fw85 said:
Just to provide a clear update to available GCam ports and their respective configurations, saving you the need to search through the Telegram GCam group for Mi 10 / Pro / Ultra.
Available ports for the Mi 10 Ultra:
1. Nikita GCam
2. Wichaya GCam
Available configs for the Mi 10 Ultra: see attachments
Both port versions are the latest at the time of writing and they work well with the respective config files (made by Dennis) - tested them out myself.
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Thanks.. Do you have a preference to which version is best?

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Thanks.. Do you have a preference to which version is best?
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It's really a matter of personal taste. I liked the Nikita port a bit better.
Give both a shot and you'll see for yourself.

Thanks for sharing. The quality is very good on closer objects but if I take pictures and focus on a specific object in the distance,I just get blurry image and it takes really long to focus. Other than this, it's working really good

The updated Nikita 1.9 Gcam with XML by Dennis is really awesome: Downloaded both from: https://www.miscw.com/download-and-...-mi-10-ultra-updated-15th-nov-2020-32394.html

GCam Collection, Configs & Discussion

​This is a collection of working Google Cameras (GCams) for the Galaxy A20 & A20e.
This thread is not in its final state and will be updated over time. If you want to add/edit something, feel free to tell me.
Important​All of the following GCams require to enable RAW Capture with this Magisk module.
This shouldn't be required on recent versions of Eureka ROMs. To check whether you need the module or not, download the Camera2 API Probe app. If the "Hardware Support Level" is set to "FULL" and "RAW capture" is available, you don't need to install it.
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If you don't enable RAW Capture, you'll get a black screen and only video recording will work.
GCams​BSG's MGC 8.1​Download (I suggest you to download the com.samsung.android.scan3d version)
Advantages:
Very stable, handles all the cameras without any problems
LOTS of configurations, each camera module can have different settings
Disadvantages:
Slow performance, but this is expected in our low-end phone. However, other GCams are a little faster, specially when switching between modes (photo, video recording, night sight...)
Slow Motion doesn't work
Motion Tracking doesn't work
Astrophotography doesn't work
Configs:
@TBM13's config: Enables the wide camera and disables the zoomed front camera. On the back camera, increases sharpness, sets correct AWB model and enables motion photo. Download
@SerbianGeek 's config: Increases contrast and makes colors more vivid. Download
Tutorials:
Enable wide camera
Remember that your ROM needs to expose it. For more information check the FAQ below.
Go to Settings->Modules>White list then type 50 , press Ok and restart the app
Enable motion photos
Go to Settings->Global and enable "Motion Photo"
Go to Settings->Modules->Back (1.0) and set "Module hardware level" to "Level 3". This will make Motion Photo work on the back camera.
If you want to enable Motion Photo on other camera modules, repeat this same process on them.

FAQ / Issues​Black screen. Only video recording works​Make sure you installed the Magisk module to enable RAW Capture.
​Sometimes the phone lags / freezes / reboots while using GCam​This happens to me quite a lot. Sometimes the phone freezes and I have to reboot it holding volume down + power key, and other times it reboots itself. This is most likely a software issue on our camera library, and nothing can be done for now.
Closing all other apps before opening GCam seems to help a lot with both the overall performance and stability, so I suggest to do this.
Wide camera is not detected / doesn't appear​Your ROM needs to expose it. You can check this using the Camera2 API Probe app: if it's being exposed, you should see a camera with ID 50 at the bottom of the list.
Additionally, some GCams also require to change some setting.
How to expose the wide camera?​If your ROM doesn't expose the wide camera, as far as I know nothing can be done.
However, if you are using PHH's AOSP GSI or any other based on it (like LineageOS GSI, Pixel Experience GSI, etc.), you can expose it by going to Settings->PHH Treble Settings->Samsung Features-> Tick "Enable access to all cameras" and reboot.
Photos aren't saving when HDR is enabled​This seems to be an issue in newer GCams, like in BSG's GCams newer than 8.1.
I haven't found a fix for this.
Night sight photos are pinkish and blurry​This seems to be a common issue in all GCams.
A workaround is to lock AF/AE, which can be done by pressing any part of the screen to focus and then pressing the lock that appears at the top right.
This needs to be done every time before you take a photo with Night Sight.
Slow motion doesn't work!​I haven't found any GCam with working slow motion as of now. Seems like our phone just doesn't support it.

Reserved 2

Thanks
do you have a config file for a20 ?

How do I download? And which APK to download? Is it the "googlecameng" APK? After I click the APK it says "you are trying to access a temporary link."

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do you have a config file for a20 ?
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Not right now. I will soon add two (mine, which just makes it easier to get the wide camera to appear, and another guy's config which modifies colors and contrast).
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How do I download? And which APK to download? Is it the "googlecameng" APK? After I click the APK it says "you are trying to access a temporary link."
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Yeah, they are all the same. I don't know why you're getting that message. What browser are you using?

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Yeah, they are all the same. I don't know why you're getting that message. What browser are you using?
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Firefox on mobile. I was able to download it on firefox desktop, idk why it's not working on firefox android.

Configs:
@SerbianGeek 's Config: Increases contrast and makes colors more vivid.
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The config link is taking me to SerbianGeek's personal telegram.

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The config link is taking me to SerbianGeek's personal telegram.
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Added the missing download URL.

Thanks!

Thank you!

I have cleaned the thread a little bit and also uploaded my config for BSG's 8.1 GCam. Most of its changes are on the back camera, as I made it for personal use and I don't really use the front and wide cameras. It'll probably be updated over time, when that happens I'll try to notify it by commething here.

Themes / Apps / Mods GCam 8.4 + config for Xiaomi 12

APK download:
LMC 8.4 r14: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Hkl24zPEnOh-IwUq0fGQoQHhLEIMxKt3/view?usp=sharing
LMC 8.4 r17: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tgN3nE3w-cBGtrGO1Zi5ezllnyY6a961/view?usp=sharing
.xml config download:
LMC 8.4 r14:
ironhrt_12series_1.7.xml
drive.google.com
LMC 8.4 r17:
xiaomi12_lmc_8.4_r17.xml
drive.google.com
Left-bottom side buttons:
1. "Leica" - Adds the Leica/vignette effect on the final picture
2. "LDR" - Low dynamic range, used for darker photos
3. "PRO" - Enables an extra config, for more contrast and darker shadows
Top buttons from left to right:
1. Tracking focus - the object you focused on will be tracked by the camera
2. HDR enhanced frame count - sets the number of frames used by HDR to generate the final picture
3. AWB - keeping it off will generate warmer images
4. Exposure compensation - adjusts the lighting in the final picture
5. Manual sliders - enables manual sliders for ISO and shutter speed
6. Focus slider - enables autofocus slider
You can also download the .apk from here if you don't trust the drive link: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-hasli/f/dl10/ - LMC8.4_R14.apk
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-hasli/f/dl13/ - LMC8.4_R17.apk
No comparison photos yet, but you can post yours

Here a list of phones with a Sony IMX766 camera
https://www.kimovil.com/fr/comparatif-smartphone/f_clmod+id.239

Please stay on-topic. This is a release thread. (was meant for a deleted comment)

LMC8.4_R14 has been released

Paolo83 said:
LMC8.4_R14 has been released
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and here is link to download
Hasli: LMC8.4_R14
Download LMC8.4_R14 by Hasli.
www.celsoazevedo.com

I think that xml in #1 post Is not bad but not good

- Uploaded a new config based on ironhrt 1.6 with a few tweaks and fixed cameras.
- Updated Gcam version

bomblader said:
- Uploaded a new config based on ironhrt 1.6 with a few tweaks and fixed cameras.
- Updated Gcam version
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It shots well!
A question: 4:3 or 16:9?
Look my settings in pictures. I dont know what are the "?" but off Is better. 27 MXP Is ok? And then AWB off: if i turn on the picture Is too dark, have you try?
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It shots well!
A question: 4:3 or 16:9?
Look my settings in pictures. I dont know what are the "?" but off Is better. 27 MXP Is ok? And then AWB off: if i turn on the picture Is too dark, have you try?View attachment 5733685
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There is explanation in first post on spoiler.
4:3 or 16:9 simply depends what you like.

You can use AWB ON to get better shots during the night.
Pro uses a different config that gets you better contrast.
Leica adds a vignette effect.
The top "?" is exposure compensation, it adjusts the lighting in the final picture.
27 is the number of frames used by HDR enhanced to generate the final picture.

This xml maybe is better... Try and report

Added a new config, removed old ones, and reworked the main post structure. The new config by Ironhrt is much better.

hey guys, i need advise please.
i installed the apk and put the xml in the root of the lmc-folder. but i can't load the config
what am i doing wrong?

hey, the slow camera doesn't seems to work. When i choose slow motion, the screen just goes black :/

This is only for main camera pictures. For video, slow motion, aux cameras, etc. use the stock app

Shane Gooseman said:
hey guys, i need advise please.
i installed the apk and put the xml in the root of the lmc-folder. but i can't load the config
what am i doing wrong?
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Same here, it's not loading.

meanwhile (i had to setup the whole phobe few times...) i downloaded the apk from the first post.
added the xml into the root of the lmc8.4 folder, opened the camera app and:
double tap on the right free area besides to the shutter button. this should open up a little popup from whitch you can choose a config xml (located in the root of the lmc folder)

thanks for sharing the Gcam version, it works great on my Xiaomi 12 with nice results.
how is the Leica button, LDR and PRO works, i turned it on and see no different results

Any update on xml file? It works good but i hope we can get 16mp pics

Could the xml file for version 14, works fine in version 15?
LMC8.4_R15​
Hasli: LMC8.4_R15
Download LMC8.4_R15 by Hasli.
www.celsoazevedo.com