Now it's official, no Google blessings!
They killed it before its even born!
The best smartphone any Geek could ever dream of.
6.5 inch horizon screen with better screen to body ratio and smaller notch
Kirin 990 with 5G 7nm processor
4500 mah battery
27w wireless charging with 3 times faster reverse wireless charging
Improved camera sensor
Better in display fingerprint sensor
Better UI
etc...
Tthey promise a stable huawei mobile services platform and a rich app store database, but can it replace Google play services (play store, maps, youtube, drive, etc...)
Even if we can add Google play services, will it be continuously getting updates? Will it be secure? Can it be allowed to add it in the 1st place?
Why kill a great company with leading technologies and limitless potentials?
I am a Huawei flagship user since the Porsche design mate 9 passing through all the great phones Huawei created and ending with the Mate 20 Pro 8gb 256gb international version. No way I'm going back to Samsung. The Note 10 plus can't be compared to the legendary Mate 30 pro!!!!
I'm in shock, I feel I'm in a nightmare and I need to wake up and find it's over soon!
Searching Huawei's App gallery on my Honor view 20, there are lots of YouTube clients. There is web browser access of course. For other apps like maps, we just extract the apk from an old phone and fire it over to the new mate 30. Just means a manual process every now and than. I'm not sure if the lack play services will cause issues? Just think how great the battery life would be without Play Services! Also, we won't have google listening to our every words and then serving up ads all the time.
Same here ... We need to know will we be able to install the play store and google apps .... ?????? This is the important question .
Or when u buy the phone will it transfer all your apps in the 1st sync between 2 phones ?
Is it possible that we can just create a custom rom with all the google services?
hwoarang626 said:
Same here ... We need to know will we be able to install the play store and google apps .... ?????? This is the important question .
Or when u buy the phone will it transfer all your apps in the 1st sync between 2 phones ?
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It isn't ideal but you could install Aurora Droid if you cannot install the Google Play store.
As for transferring all your apps. I would assume not That seems to be a Google service when you setup your phone with your Google account. Unless they provide a service like that which can read apps and settings from the previous phone.
Another good thing to note besides just installing the Google Play Store is that you need Google Play Services for some apps. Things like Netflix won't play in HD, WhatsApp won't be able to back-up your data to Google Drive, and Snapchat won't work either. You might be able to circumvent those problems with the microG Project though. But I believe that that is still in an early stage of development.
In a follow-up interview with Richard Yu clarified one important question in regards to how users will have control over the software they’ll be able to install on the Mate 30 and Mate 30 Pro;
and he also confirmed that users will be able to unlock the bootloaders for the Mate 30 and 30 Pro.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14887/huawei-launches-mate-30-mate-30-pro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DO1cnJwIWw&feature=youtu.be
i don't speak Italian but google apps are installed at 5:15. Maps and youtube are shown shortly after that. Play store is also shown being installed. Getting this phone when it's available.
Is the unavailability of GApps permanent ?
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In a follow-up interview with Richard Yu clarified one important question in regards to how users will have control over the software they’ll be able to install on the Mate 30 and Mate 30 Pro;
and he also confirmed that users will be able to unlock the bootloaders for the Mate 30 and 30 Pro.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14887/huawei-launches-mate-30-mate-30-pro
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We can have Magisk, Custom roms and Kernels then ?
Actually with unlocked bootloader and easy root this may be the phone to get.
pete4k said:
Actually with unlocked bootloader and easy root this may be the phone to get.
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I was wondering the same thing. In the olden times- phone with unlocked bootloader allowed us to customize phone to the teeth- Performance and battery longevity both improved. Shouldn't that be the case here?'
RE-sale would suffer
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Searching Huawei's App gallery on my Honor view 20, there are lots of YouTube clients. There is web browser access of course. For other apps like maps, we just extract the apk from an old phone and fire it over to the new mate 30. Just means a manual process every now and than. I'm not sure if the lack play services will cause issues? Just think how great the battery life would be without Play Services! Also, we won't have google listening to our every words and then serving up ads all the time.
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I think the same way as you. The first thing that crossed my mind when Richard Yu said that's not going to be any GMS was that battery life would be freaking awesome. GMS like play services has a really high battery consumption. If I get the Mate 30 Pro, I would just sideload YouTube and Gmail. I don't really need other Google services.
I think this was a dreadful way of handling competition with Huawei.
They outran everyone and so - you treat them like terrorists and run them out of the market.
It's transparent and anti-capitalist and I'm going to buy the phone and I hope that China keeps going.
It's left a bitter taste in my mouth for everything American.
For the time being I'm just going to short-cut from my browsers to gmail etc
I don't need the apps
And side-load when this becomes possible.
I don't like to see people beat down good competition.
I'm behind Huawei all the way - I don't think anyone will ever trust America again - I wish them luck with Harmony OS and in the long term, I wish China's tech, every success.
Let's see.
Onward.
First message on xda-developer since, well, when I actually used the XDA II!
I am not moving away from Android and if I can, Huawei (Mate 7,8,9P,10P,20P, P20P, P30P). Am now looking at prove that GMS can be installed on the M30P and I will upgrade, if not, I'm sorry Huawei.
Are we still on XDA-Developers ? People could boot 3 OS's on the HTC HD2 !
Installing Google Services on the Mate30 is really easy...
Just look at any Meizu or Xiaomi china phone and see how easy it is to get it to run the full Google services, heck, flashing Gapps after Flashing any ROM avaiable on here should already be 2nd nature to most of us !
I agree. Sideload Google services is very easy. Just flash a gapps package and you're done. If you just want YouTube and G-Mail, just flash these two apps
Hope we can easily sideload all Google stuff.
I don't see any phone worth buying outside of M30P or maybe M30X in the future
I have a Mate 20 Pro and it's an amazing phone, I'd like to buy a Mate 30 Pro and I have zero problems with side-loading apps and unlocking bootloaders etc.
The only question I have is, is it possible after side loading the apps for Google restrict them remotely?
Sorry if this is well known, I've been out of the ROM / app flashing game for a while.... back in my HD2 days it was a new ROM every week and great fun
GMS will be like installing on a chinese SKU'd phone, but the issue as a daily driver will be things like widevide, saftey net, bank apps, etc... not to mention having to root for things like aptx codecs etc. It will also remain to be seen if push notifications via gcm will be ok as well, or FCM i think is what the push api is called now.
Netflix, Spotify, most decent banking apps, might be b0rked. Really a shame since this hardware is leagues ahead right now. Pixel 4 xl is looking to be a disappointment comparatively, and note 10 was just 10++ basically.
gn0s1s said:
GMS will be like installing on a chinese SKU'd phone, but the issue as a daily driver will be things like widevide, saftey net, bank apps, etc... not to mention having to root for things like aptx codecs etc. It will also remain to be seen if push notifications via gcm will be ok as well, or FCM i think is what the push api is called now.
Netflix, Spotify, most decent banking apps, might be b0rked. Really a shame since this hardware is leagues ahead right now. Pixel 4 xl is looking to be a disappointment comparatively, and note 10 was just 10++ basically.
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Yes, am very keen to see if banking apps will work.
SafetyNet WILL be broken by unlocking the bootloader. It's a given. Sadly this means no Netflix, no banking apps, no Snapchat (can cope without that one) etc. To me that's fine - I never watch netflix on my phone and banking I always access from a browser. For a phone the major things, for me, are battery life and the camera. I'll be getting this and hoping I can sideload stuff later.
Got it here in UAE. So far no Google method is working from the Mate 30 pro thread.
varun.gid said:
Got it here in UAE. So far no Google method is working from the Mate 30 pro thread.
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Did you use phone clone followed by chat partner all with device ID?
How can I add Google pack into this device? I used mate 30 promethod which was working perfectly with that device but in this device it won't work. It keep showing me message "this device isn’t Play Protect certified"
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Did you use phone clone followed by chat partner all with device ID?
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Hello, I also Have a Huawei Mate XS and yes, I tried to do the procedure with Chat partner APP and device ID registration, but it doesn't work. You still can't login to the play store and you receive constant google play service notifications. Unusable. I've also tried to use the procedure described in the answers to the video (using Chat partner after cloning my old Huawei P30pro) but no luck.
I resolved to use the phone without google services, using APK Pure and Aptoide for missing apps.
Still there are apps that I normally use that just don't work. So far:
- Tesla;
- Couple of games I play;
- Revolut;
- Netflix;
- Gmail;
- google maps works but you can't login to google.
All in all I'm still pretty satisfied with the phone and I'm waiting for a definitive workaround for google play store.
Google package
If you have solutions plz post it
Have you tried VMOS apk? As a limited alternative there is also an app called G-Whizz plus and Gapps browser as a temporary solution.
Yes otherwise you need third party apps stores like spk mirror, f Droid, Aurora store or app suche.vone can use internet access to GMS.
VMOS don't dismiss without tryjng
https://www.vmos.com/blog/blog-list/use_google_on_huawei.htm
https://www.gizchina.com/2019/10/18/solve-google-services-issue-on-huawei-mate-30-pro-with-vmos/
Darkisde said:
Have you tried VMOS apk?
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Many current Huawei phones with Kirin chipset are not fully compatible with WMOS and vice versa.
I'm trying to get used to using the device Sans Google. Trying to explore alternatives and see how to reduce Google life haha.
Jx9997 said:
How can I add Google pack into this device? I used mate 30 promethod which was working perfectly with that device but in this device it won't work. It keep showing me message "this device isn’t Play Protect certified"
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there is a method that works posted on the Rom, kernel section go check it out, i can't post links here as im new i lost my old ID.
Does your screen also sound like this pressing on the middle of the unfolded screen?
I received my Huawei mate xs yesterday. Only VMOS works.
Hi friend
Does Wear os work on mate xs, have a fossil watch
Guys if install GMS, means can watch Netflix?
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Guys if install GMS, means can watch Netflix?
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Only one app is working, if you update it might not work
Hi!
I have a MediaPad Pro M5
I have spent many hours on XDA following guides to install Google Service on Huawei.
Somehow neither of the method worked for me.
But I managed to install Google services by accident.
I almost gave up and decided to install at least a decent browser (Brave).
I found the browser on APKPure.
It is a kind of a third party package manager to my understanding.
To install Brave I needed to install the package manager first.
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Brave got installed, no problem.
But to my surprise I could also find Youtube app on APKPure.
When I installed Youtube, APKPure package manager suggested to install Google Play Store as well !!!
I followed the suggestion and installed Google Play.
With Google Play I could install all the other apps, I needed.
* To moderators:
I have registered just to post this solution, because it might be a great relieve for people who are struggling like I did.
I guess I need to earn some points to post in the Huawei thread.
I have no time to earn these points, so if I'm breaking the forum rules, feel free to delete this post.
If you can move the post to the relevant thread, it would be even better.
Great finding!
In fact, it's known that on some well-known apk website such as apkmirror or apkpure, you can download apks for many free apps, including YouTube and Google Play Store.
But please note that either apkmirror or apkpure is a third-party apk distribution website.
On the other hand, if your Huawei phone, MediaPad Pro M5, does not have a built-in Google service framework, the Play Store will not work properly after you just download and install the Play Store. Does your Play Store work well?
Hi, I'm a college student and i recently saved up and bought a Nova 9 (NAM-LX9) and have been finding a way to get harmony on it. My main goal for bbuying a huawei was to test and use harmonyos and it took a while for me to get it with the US sanctions and all. I read up a bunch and was wondering if there is any method for this. Most forums i saw were older and for other devices however I did see some people managed it but just said they did with no explantion. Would love to figure this out or it'll be $300 down the drain lol. Thank you!
Actually Nova 9 phones run EMUI 12, what is Harmony OS 2.0.0, AFAIK.
You can install Google Play Store on this phone as shown here
How to Install Google Play Store on Any Huawei HarmonyOS 2.0 device
If you're one of the Huawei/Honor device users and want to Install Google Play Store on any Huawei HarmonyOS 2.0 device, check out this guide
www.getdroidtips.com