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I have two Nexus S at the moment and they both have significantly different screen rendering while running the same ROM with the same customizations and brightness. This shows up most clearly with the wpclock wallpaper. I took a screen shot of each to post in the wpclock thread to see which of the renderings was most similar to other people's screens. The screen shots for both phones looks the same on my monitor, which I guess makes sense because a screen shot is a representation of the data of the picture and not an actual picture of the rendering on the screen.
Is my most accurate NS as far as screen color goes the one that matches the screen shot on my monitor? This assumes my monitor is fairly decent. I need to return one of the NS and I really don't know which is the more accurate screen rendering, one looks saturated with red and the other looks saturated with blue.
I had only looked at the phones individually before and thought the screen looked great on both, so it's really not that big a deal. When I looked at them together I noticed that they rendered quite differently and the red saturated one is slightly brighter than the blue saturated one. The red one has only been used for a few hours and the blue one for almost 30 days.
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i'd say no
the screeshot is capture within the machine, it will always show the correct color even if the physical device (screen) is not displaying the correct color
there have been very few SAMOLED screen that came defective from factory (from SGS)
but so far we've not see that as of yet in the SNS
^^ Thanks for the reply.
I found some good information in this thread, in particular post #7: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883109
We can probably close this thread.
I have 2 Dell 22 inch LCDs here bought them at the same time and the colors are slightly different between the two.
my point being is that monitors and such display colors differently,
I just got mine today and was doing some testing. I've used Opencamera a lot in the past. I noticed it allows AP 2 which everybody's hunting down Gcam for but it seems to work just fine in Opencam. It does seem to break video in opencam though! Major bummer. It tries to kick it into 56mbps bitrate not matter what I set the bitrate to manually and that doesn't seem to be supported. So AP2 for photos only in OC thus far.
However, I'm not all that convinced that it helps all that much. I did notice substantially less noise so that's good, but dynamic range doesn't seem to change that much and honestly isn't the best I saw. The best dynamic range was with HDR on in the stock camera app with tapping to focus on the edge of where my dark black stove and a white piece of paper meet. I never did HDR auto, always on or off just to be sure.
So there's a bunch of different shots in different folders in the zip. Keep in mind this is pretty low light, so they're all a bit noisy and not as sharp. It's in my dark apt kitchen with just 2 4.5watt LED bulbs (40 watt equivalent) but I think it's a good mix of bright light source and dark with lots of bottles and stone skillet for color, texture, and shadows. I'll try some more tests in the daytime of course.
Some are OpenCam and some stock app. There's a few that are 48mp vs 12mp but I really didn't see any noticeable difference between the two so might as well just stick to 12. You can only really tell the 48mp ones because the pic will be around 9 to 10.5 mb and the 12 are around 3 to 5 ish mb.
Opencamera also has some kind of dynamic contrast boosting feature, but I didn't find it to make any difference at all.
There are also several versions of the just auto aka point and shoot vs tapping on the spot where my dark black stove meets the white paper and that yields the best dynamic range by far without other factors that modify that a little bit. Always try to find a good dark/light mix spot to tap on for your pic for best metering if you can. That alone makes sooooo much difference.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1A4KahfWKgIkytBhAbxBRKWDv7nr57Z5p
See what you guys think. Sorry about the crappy subject matter but I wanted it to be a tough scenario and consistent among all the tries.
Folders inside the zip tell what the pics are mostly. I labelled some of the pics themselves but not all. I need to make a list of things so I can remember the order after taking them and transferring to the PC later lol.
Have just bought the note 10 plus 5g and am moving from Huawei mate 20 X
The reason is the screen quality and the uncertainty with Huawei plus of course the 5g
Can anyone tell me about the camera is it good ? I owned note 9 and loved the note experience but the camera was poor
I just hope I'm not making a mistake moving as the camera on the mate 20 X is brilliant as shown below (only issue the AI is bad and I have it switched off most of the time)
Is there any monochrome ?? And night camera ??
I've enclosed a picture from the mate 20 X for comparison
Thanks
mancuk29 said:
Have just bought the note 10 plus 5g and am moving from Huawei mate 20 X
The reason is the screen quality and the uncertainty with Huawei plus of course the 5g
Can anyone tell me about the camera is it good ? I owned note 9 and loved the note experience but the camera was poor
I just hope I'm not making a mistake moving as the camera on the mate 20 X is brilliant as shown below (only issue the AI is bad and I have it switched off most of the time)
Is there any monochrome ?? And night camera ??
I've enclosed a picture from the mate 20 X for comparison
Thanks
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I have Note10, didn't see any monochrome lens, but possibly can be applied later as an effect. Nigh camera mode is there. I like images that this phone produced. I usually take photos of the nature, clouds and such... I haven't had a chance to put the camera into a good use, but I will.
Coming from two Pixels the camera on the new note is.... alright..
The issue i have is that you need to mess with different modes to figure out which mode to be in to get the best picture. For instance in regular mode i cant get a crisp picture of anything moving at all. My sons slight movements even cause a blur which sucks. In pro mode it makes the shutter much quicker and is able to snap moving targets.
Portrait mode is also a weird one. Live Focus kind of sucks and takes a ton of time to snap a photo so youll have to make sure that whatever youre shooting stays absolutely still. Again pro mode works pretty well but youll need to quickly change your ISO/fstop etc to get the best color.
Im currently using the Gcam port from the s10 and it works a bit better at getting overall better photos.
Im very used to opening my camera app and quickly taking the best photo possible so for me this is the biggest issue i have with the phone. My advice if you're a camera person is to wait for the next Pixel and make a decision from there
I disagree with Cosmo. I would say if you are a camera person then you know about photography. Basically everything he pointed out tells me he doesn't understand. That is exactly the type of person who should get the Pixel. If you know how cameras work then the n10 has everything you need to get amazing pictures.
mancuk29 said:
Have just bought the note 10 plus 5g and am moving from Huawei mate 20 X
The reason is the screen quality and the uncertainty with Huawei plus of course the 5g
Can anyone tell me about the camera is it good ? I owned note 9 and loved the note experience but the camera was poor
I just hope I'm not making a mistake moving as the camera on the mate 20 X is brilliant as shown below (only issue the AI is bad and I have it switched off most of the time)
Is there any monochrome ?? And night camera ??
I've enclosed a picture from the mate 20 X for comparison
Thanks
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Nice photo of my home town
I've come across from the Mate 20 X as well, went to Crosby beach last night to take some photos and they came out really well, there is a night mode which i dabbled with and came out well.
I've not found a monochrome option but that can just be done through snapseed etc
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Nice photo of my home town
I've come across from the Mate 20 X as well, went to Crosby beach last night to take some photos and they came out really well, there is a night mode which i dabbled with and came out well.
I've not found a monochrome option but that can just be done through snapseed etc
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Love Liverpool ? thank you that's what I wanted to hear someone who has come from the mighty mate 20 X
How do you cope with slightly less real estate screen wise ?
Can you make the icons smaller on the note 10 plus as they are huge compared to my mate 20 X
wraptor said:
I disagree with Cosmo. I would say if you are a camera person then you know about photography. Basically everything he pointed out tells me he doesn't understand. That is exactly the type of person who should get the Pixel. If you know how cameras work then the n10 has everything you need to get amazing pictures.
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I am and I love to use pro the problem with the mate 20 X is the AI gimic it massively over saturated the pictures I don't use it and normally unless I want a quick pic use pro mode
Hopefully can reproduce shots like this when my note 10 plus lands tomorrow ?
mancuk29 said:
Love Liverpool thank you that's what I wanted to hear someone who has come from the mighty mate 20 X
How do you cope with slightly less real estate screen wise ?
Can you make the icons smaller on the note 10 plus as they are huge compared to my mate 20 X
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It's taking some getting used to, to most people the screen is probably large but coming from the X it's tiny in comparison. One benefit I've noticed is walking round I just don't notice the Note 10 being there.
Yes you can make the icons smaller, I've changed the DPI to 551 and it's made the icons a nice size for me, just mess about with the DPI till you find a size you like
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It's taking some getting used to, to most people the screen is probably large but coming from the X it's tiny in comparison. One benefit I've noticed is walking round I just don't notice the Note 10 being there.
Yes you can make the icons smaller, I've changed the DPI to 551 and it's made the icons a nice size for me, just mess about with the DPI till you find a size you like
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Could you screen shot so I can see how the icons look.like ??
Here you go
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Here you go
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That's so much better thank you hate the massive icons
Apparently there are reports that the green-tint issue is manifested on the Snapdragon version as well as the Tab S7 and S7+.
Reported here:
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SamMobile
Are you affected?
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Apparently there are reports that the green-tint issue is manifested on the Snapdragon version as well as the Tab S7 and S7+.
Reported here:
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SamMobile
Are you affected?
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Mine and my wife's doesn't have this issue..
Nope, don't want it either!
No green on mine.
I did. Luckily I got it replaced the very next day even if I *did* have to waste maybe 4 hours on the whole replacement process.
It was so bad that even on normal brightness you could see the green tinge on everything that was supposed to be black, or very dark grey.
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Apparently there are reports that the green-tint issue is manifested on the Snapdragon version as well as the Tab S7 and S7+.
Reported here:
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SamMobile
Are you affected?
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Just green tint? Mine was being a little yellowish so i reduced the color temperature then there was green tint and finally today i decided to compare my note 8 and the screen is not even as sharp as my 3 year old note 8. I am on support chat in the process to return it. This one is 512 GB U1 Variant.
The smaller chipsets and components Samsung will substitute as availability/demand dictates.
This can cause one or more to be out spec and/or the firmware and/or updates to behave unpredictably.
Worse it seems the only way Sambert knows which part was actually used sometimes is to physically inspect the device. So if it's a firmware bug Samsung still can't remotely remedy it... perfect.
Using multiple main chipsets and firmware versions in the same model only adds to this confusion.
A lot of room for error... in a box full of rabid gerbils, what could go wrong?
None here.
warriorvibhu said:
Just green tint? Mine was being a little yellowish so i reduced the color temperature then there was green tint and finally today i decided to compare my note 8 and the screen is not even as sharp as my 3 year old note 8. I am on support chat in the process to return it. This one is 512 GB U1 Variant.
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Note 20 Ultra has a 6.9-inch display (496 ppi) when you have the resolution at WQHD+.
Note 8 has a 6.3-inch display (521 ppi) when you have the resolution at WQHD+.
Shouldn't be able to see any difference at that PPI level.
Did you have both phones on the same resolution when you were comparing?
roryh86 said:
Note 20 Ultra has a 6.9-inch display (496 ppi) when you have the resolution at WQHD+.
Note 8 has a 6.3-inch display (521 ppi) when you have the resolution at WQHD+.
Shouldn't be able to see any difference at that PPI level.
Did you have both phones on the same resolution when you were comparing?
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Yes i did, i was thinking about the PPI, probably that is making the difference in sharpness but i am not sure about the contrast difference.
warriorvibhu said:
Yes i did, i was thinking about the PPI, probably that is making the difference in sharpness but i am not sure about the contrast difference.
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Hmm. It looks pretty sharp to me in FHD+ from holding distance, WQHD+ is razor sharp. Maybe don't put the Note 8 next to it
gearth
is very good
roryh86 said:
Hmm. It looks pretty sharp to me in FHD+ from holding distance, WQHD+ is razor sharp. Maybe don't put the Note 8 next to it
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Trust me i didnt for a whole month but then when you pay 1500+ no discounts nothing and then you see your 3 year old phone holding its own, you want to question things, dont you. BTW just for fun sake here is a shot taken at exact same moment from Note 8 and Note 20 for side by side comparison.
Spot the difference 3 Year old phone vs latest 2020 flagship
Edit- For some reason for the fs sake i am not able to rotate the other image LOL
warriorvibhu said:
Trust me i didnt for a whole month but then when you pay 1500+ no discounts nothing and then you see your 3 year old phone holding its own, you want to question things, dont you. BTW just for fun sake here is a shot taken at exact same moment from Note 8 and Note 20 for side by side comparison.
Spot the difference 3 Year old phone vs latest 2020 flagship
Edit- For some reason for the fs sake i am not able to rotate the other image LOL
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Cute dog! haha.
Yeah of course, you don't want to be disappointed in anything with a new phone costing 1000 pounds. I think the differences year to year are going to become smaller and smaller, and a 2 or 3 year old flagship is still going to be amazing. Photos can only become so good at a point.
I think the resolution comment though, the PPI is negligible and not worth bumping the PPI to match Note 8, that would bring the resolution over 3K and probably lead to even more battery drain. But it could be a software difference as well and things are smoother on the Note 20U.
Back when I used to flash custom roms i remember some roms would appear sharper than others, so software can have an effect.
Anyway, yeah the photos look very similar. Fur is bit sharper on the N20U. Was that night mode?
roryh86 said:
Cute dog! haha.
Yeah of course, you don't want to be disappointed in anything with a new phone costing 1000 pounds. I think the differences year to year are going to become smaller and smaller, and a 2 or 3 year old flagship is still going to be amazing. Photos can only become so good at a point.
I think the resolution comment though, the PPI is negligible and not worth bumping the PPI to match Note 8, that would bring the resolution over 3K and probably lead to even more battery drain. But it could be a software difference as well and things are smoother on the Note 20U.
Back when I used to flash custom roms i remember some roms would appear sharper than others, so software can have an effect.
Anyway, yeah the photos look very similar. Fur is bit sharper on the N20U. Was that night mode?
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The dog really appreciated the Cute dog comment and says thanks. The picture from N20U1 definitely looks sharper, no it wasnt night mode just took a quick one on auto settings. Night mode is really good and even better on the gcam (Trust me the software processing on goggle cam night mode is amazing). I will take a comparison shot tonight when i go out and post something tomorrow, where i am there is still 8 hours until i go out for that night shot.
Here's what you do if you really want to spot the difference. Activate chrome and YouTube dark mode on both the note 20 ultra and note 8. You'll see that the blacks are deeper on the note 8. The black on the note 20 ultra looks a bit yellowish in comparison. But funny enough, It only looks yellowish if you compare. If you don't compare, it'll seem just fine. That's why I've been saying it's not bad, but it's definitely not as contrasty and punchy as previous notes. But by no means is it horrible...and it's true, cute dog lol
Mrplennium said:
Here's what you do if you really want to spot the difference. Activate chrome and YouTube dark mode on both the note 20 ultra and note 8. You'll see that the blacks are deeper on the note 8. The black on the note 20 ultra looks a bit yellowish in comparison. But funny enough, It only looks yellowish if you compare. If you don't compare, it'll seem just fine. That's why I've been saying it's not bad, but it's definitely not as contrasty and punchy as previous notes. But by no means is it horrible...and it's true, cute dog lol
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True mine was a little greenish i fixed those by going to Display>>Screen Mode>> Advanced Settings>> and turned the green all the way down . Also thanks from the pooch.
warriorvibhu said:
The dog really appreciated the Cute dog comment and says thanks. The picture from N20U1 definitely looks sharper, no it wasnt night mode just took a quick one on auto settings. Night mode is really good and even better on the gcam (Trust me the software processing on goggle cam night mode is amazing). I will take a comparison shot tonight when i go out and post something tomorrow, where i am there is still 8 hours until i go out for that night shot.
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warriorvibhu said:
True mine was a little greenish i fixed those by going to Display>>Screen Mode>> Advanced Settings>> and turned the green all the way down . Also thanks from the pooch.
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Lol the pooch is welcome! :laugh: But I did the same thing as well too. Turned the green and red all the way down and the blue all the way up. It really does make a difference, but you can still see the the note 8, 9, s10 plus..etc has a deeper black. You can compare and see. Maybe Samsung needs to adjust the sRGB mode or something. Hopefully the next software may soothe this a little. Again, not a huge deal. It almost looks like blue filter on at an extremely low rate.
I have uneven brightness, specially at the bottom and right side of the screen, and banding when brightness is set to really low. Just look at it.
I've already asked for a replacement.
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What background app are you viewing that on? Mine doesn't look like that. I use dead pixel to look at how even the Whites and grays are displayed. When I turn the brightness all the way down and open an empty page in chrome's dark mode, I do notice coloration, but it's more leaning towards being even. Let us know how the return unit fairs. I've looked at 3 different models with the yellowish overtone.
Hi All,
I'm torn between Pixel 7 and 7 Pro because of its size. I'm afraid I won't be able to get used to the 6.7" size and it will be awkwardly big. But the better camera, color, and design make this choice tough.
Is it comfortable to hold the 7 Pro? Isn't it frustratingly big? What are your thoughts on this?
I would appreciate any opinion about this which helps decide my dilemma.
What phone are you coming from? I went from the Pixel 3XL to the P7P and the P7P is about the same size. It is about the same with, but about a quarter inch taller. I think I have large hands, but I haven't really had an issue with the phone.
I'm coming from a Huawei P10 (5.1"), so it would be a big difference I don't have small hands either, so maybe I just have to get used to it.
Druantia said:
I'm coming from a Huawei P10 (5.1"), so it would be a big difference I don't have small hands either, so maybe I just have to get used to it.
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With the bezels on the p10 it won't be a huge size difference in the device itself. I think you will really like the 7 Pro vs the 7.
Coming from a Galaxy Note 20 Ultra the p7p seems just right (i.e. smaller)
I prefer the size (and flat screen) of the 7, as for the camera being better, I'd say more flexible not better and so far the zoom is concerned it isn't a patch on what my P6P was, it is ok'ish as 5x but the colours are washed out and not consistant with 1x , it is pretty soft and it is disappointing at any zoom after that, the P6P zoom was very respectable even at 15X. Hopefully Google will work on it.
Having AF on the ultrawide is a negative for me as well, i am getting landscape shots where either the foreground or the background are out of focus depending on if there is something in the frame in the middle to near distance, they should have stuck with a fixed lens at a hyperfocal distance and not bothered with the macro IMHO.
Druantia said:
Hi All,
I'm torn between Pixel 7 and 7 Pro because of its size. I'm afraid I won't be able to get used to the 6.7" size and it will be awkwardly big. But the better camera, color, and design make this choice tough.
Is it comfortable to hold the 7 Pro? Isn't it frustratingly big? What are your thoughts on this?
I would appreciate any opinion about this which helps decide my dilemma.
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The 6 and 7 pro's are *frustratingly SMALL*. They advertise a big screen, but they're incredibly NARROW screens and the display comes way too close to the edge of the phone without any bezels at all to hold onto it with.
MrBelter said:
I prefer the size (and flat screen) of the 7, as for the camera being better, I'd say more flexible not better and so far the zoom is concerned it isn't a patch on what my P6P was, it is ok'ish as 5x but the colours are washed out and not consistant with 1x , it is pretty soft and it is disappointing at any zoom after that, the P6P zoom was very respectable even at 15X. Hopefully Google will work on it.
Having AF on the ultrawide is a negative for me as well, i am getting landscape shots where either the foreground or the background are out of focus depending on if there is something in the frame in the middle to near distance, they should have stuck with a fixed lens at a hyperfocal distance and not bothered with the macro IMHO.
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Macro is a much more important aspect of the camera for me, I would choose the pro because of the macro rather than the zoom functions. I have no problem with the curved display, I really like the look of it. I agree ultrawide shouldn't be autofocus though.
Thanks!
I just think you can achieve the same result by cropping an image and the cropped version looks less of a digital mush, it it was a true macro where you could get the compound eye on a fly etc. then id be all for that.
Only reason i prefer a flat screen is for glass screen protectors and the screen itself is of course a little less prone to damage.
Although I don't have the opportunity to test it myself, according to this site, you get much worse results when you crop the image:
Macro test
I heard that the curve is quite subtle, wonder if it helps with the slipperiness because I usually don't put any case on my phone.
When you open it fully you can see just how horrible the Pixel 7 Pro shot is, weirdly you can see more detail in the wood grain on the P7 shot which would imply they got the focusing just out.
As for the slippiness of the phone you will need a case or a skin, it is slippier than a block of wet ice competing in the wet ice championship on national wet ice week.
I've just taken a photo of my avatar on my 1440p monitor at 1X with macro on and 5x (no macro) at as near the closest i could get while keeping focus both are uncropped and as they came off the camera.
MrBelter said:
I just think you can achieve the same result by cropping an image and the cropped version looks less of a digital mush, it it was a true macro where you could get the compound eye on a fly etc. then id be all for that.
Only reason i prefer a flat screen is for glass screen protectors and the screen itself is of course a little less prone to damage.
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+1 for the flatscreen
I upgraded from a OnePlus 3. I was initially concerned about P7P's size but got used to it as most people suggest. I'm still not a fan of its proportions/width and the remote control look but it's one con—everything else about the phone has been a great experience.