Hi guys shot in the dark here but is it at all possible to have a higher refresh rate enabled as I've read that one of the Chinese phones (think it was oppo) was modded via kernel to overclock the refresh rate of the panel to something like 84hz
Not a problem if not just have to wait for the note 20 if not
Just be nice if possible
Thanks
any screen/monitor/tv that is capable of "modding" to a higher refresh rate is because the hardware supports it and was only limited by the software/firmware. So modding the software/firmware unlocks the full hardware potential.
The Note 10's screen just not capable of higher rate at a hardware level AFAIK.
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I would like to buy an Android phone that supports high frame rate recording, sometime also referred at 'slow motion' by manufacturers.
Ideally, I'd like 120 fps, but 60 fps is ok too.
I am aware that this feature is usually only available for lower frame sizes (VGA or QVGA) but that does not bother me.
The problem is that it is really hard to get this information from vendors and review website. There were a few pre-Android phones like that from Nokia, LG and Samsung.
Motorola Razr XT910 seems to support 120 fps, but I don't know any owner that could confirm this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1435051
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/8cb4d334d3
Does your phone support high speed frame grabbing? Please let me know.
Thank you!
I am not a developer and not capable of doing lot of work many people do here. I just read and follow instructions. I have been very happy with my experience. This time around I have an idea that I would like to share/suggest. Again, I am not capable of doing this myself. I am presenting this idea to all the capable developers here. I did search and did not find any posting, so I am making my own.
I have just learned that Samsung Note 4 has Oxygen sensor and UV sensor in addition to heart rate monitor on the back. Well, looking at the Note 4 it does not appear to have additional hardware compared to S5. This heart rate monitor is actually red/infrared sensor - again common to both devices. Oxygen sensors (commercial) use red light wavelength 660 nM and infrared light at 940 or 880 nM (depending on the manufacturer) and by measuring the light absorption of these two wavelengths they calculate hemoglobin oxygen value. Well, Samsung has used the same mechanism for Note 4.
My suggestion for the devs is to extract the code from Note 4 and make an apk that can be used for S5, making S5 capable of monitoring oxygen and UV values!
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I am not a developer and not capable of doing lot of work many people do here. I just read and follow instructions. I have been very happy with my experience. This time around I have an idea that I would like to share/suggest. Again, I am not capable of doing this myself. I am presenting this idea to all the capable developers here. I did search and did not find any posting, so I am making my own.
I have just learned that Samsung Note 4 has Oxygen sensor and UV sensor in addition to heart rate monitor on the back. Well, looking at the Note 4 it does not appear to have additional hardware compared to S5. This heart rate monitor is actually red/infrared sensor - again common to both devices. Oxygen sensors (commercial) use red light wavelength 660 nM and infrared light at 940 or 880 nM (depending on the manufacturer) and by measuring the light absorption of these two wavelengths they calculate hemoglobin oxygen value. Well, Samsung has used the same mechanism for Note 4.
My suggestion for the devs is to extract the code from Note 4 and make an apk that can be used for S5, making S5 capable of monitoring oxygen and UV values!
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Well if they are in fact the same sensors the note uses im sure we'll see the feature in a future update, perhaps lollipop?
No such update
I have heard that shealth got an update with sp02 and uv monitoring but I don't see them in my s5 yet. Were they removed or they were not released in the first place.
I am using 60Hz refresh rate as well as FHD+
I do not watch high resolution movies on my phone (I prefer an 80" TV for that) but I have tried running the phone at 90HZ and QHD+ and I just do not see, or feel any difference! My scrolling through apps, and pictures, and web pages move just as fast on 60Hz as they do on 90Hz. The screen resolution also does not appear to change at all between FHD and QHD. Don't get me wrong, my phone is on 10 and running like a champ! I do not know if my battery would run out sooner on the higher rates but I just think that this thing is so fast as it is with all the top line hardware that running it at the higher rates would just use more battery with very limited, to no real benefit.
Am I the only one who feels this way?
As someone who uses a 144Hz gaming display and 90Hz OP7Pro daily 60Hz is painfully choppy...
jaseman said:
I am using 60Hz refresh rate as well as FHD+
I do not watch high resolution movies on my phone (I prefer an 80" TV for that) but I have tried running the phone at 90HZ and QHD+ and I just do not see, or feel any difference! My scrolling through apps, and pictures, and web pages move just as fast on 60Hz as they do on 90Hz. The screen resolution also does not appear to change at all between FHD and QHD. Don't get me wrong, my phone is on 10 and running like a champ! I do not know if my battery would run out sooner on the higher rates but I just think that this thing is so fast as it is with all the top line hardware that running it at the higher rates would just use more battery with very limited, to no real benefit.
Am I the only one who feels this way?
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I would like to know why you bought a 1440p 90hz panel if you wish to use 1080p 60? 1440p is obviously more sharper and cleaner image and higher refreshrate = smoother experience I hate to see these comments "I don't see the difference" I always feel like the user is blind to me the difference is so obvious. But as the comment bellow I also game on a 144hz panel so anything less is choppy to me too. So I guess if you never used a high refresh panel it might be not noticeable to you.
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I would like to know why you bought a 1440p 90hz panel if you wish to use 1080p 60? 1440p is obviously more sharper and cleaner image and higher refreshrate = smoother experience I hate to see these comments "I don't see the difference" I always feel like the user is blind to me the difference is so obvious. But as the comment bellow I also game on a 144hz panel so anything less is choppy to me too. So I guess if you never used a high refresh panel it might be not noticeable to you.
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I do not play games on a phone. I have more important things to do with a $700.00 tool. I see just fine. I do not buy a phone based on screen refresh rate or resolution. 1080p on a 6 inch screen is better than many 55 inch TV's. I buy my phones based on price, battery size, and a few other features. So my perception is not wrong. I have tried multiple combinations of the various settings and there is LITTLE to NO appreciable difference! Maybe it makes a difference for games, but come on, games? Oh well, to each his own!
Liam definitely has a point. Although I never use 1080 I can understand how 1440 might not be a big enough difference that the extra battery is worth it. However the 90hz is much smoother during everyday use than 60hz. I use forced 90 and it hurts scrolling in any other phone. Don't know how much it affects games
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I do not play games on a phone. I have more important things to do with a $700.00 tool. I see just fine. I do not buy a phone based on screen refresh rate or resolution. 1080p on a 6 inch screen is better than many 55 inch TV's. I buy my phones based on price, battery size, and a few other features. So my perception is not wrong. I have tried multiple combinations of the various settings and there is LITTLE to NO appreciable difference! Maybe it makes a difference for games, but come on, games? Oh well, to each his own!
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I'm pretty sure he was talking about gaming on a 144hz monitor, not on his phone.
So theoretically going from 144hz to 60hz would be a HUGE difference and would definitely be noticeable.
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I do not play games on a phone. I have more important things to do with a $700.00 tool. I see just fine. I do not buy a phone based on screen refresh rate or resolution. 1080p on a 6 inch screen is better than many 55 inch TV's. I buy my phones based on price, battery size, and a few other features. So my perception is not wrong. I have tried multiple combinations of the various settings and there is LITTLE to NO appreciable difference! Maybe it makes a difference for games, but come on, games? Oh well, to each his own!
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90Hz is not only good for gaming. There's was a time when Google Chrome stopped supporting 90Hz (I think it was a month ago). At the very first second I was using Chrome with 60Hz without knowing I just thought "wtf why is it so laggy". So yeah, the difference between 60Hz and 90Hz is very big. Glad chrome supports 90Hz again.
90Hz ftw!
I guess it all boils down to not only "what" you do on your phone, but also "how" you choose to do it...as in which app(s) you choose to get things done. I keep changing settings and even rebooting between changes just to make sure they really take. And I do not see any appreciable difference! Not trying to make trouble, not disparaging this phone at all because I am enjoying it very much! But for me, the way I use it, and the apps that are important to me..the faster refresh rate as well as the higher resolution are anecdotal at best. The whole purpose of this thread for me was to make sure that my phone was truly working properly when using the higher settings. Evidently it is??? YMMV
This is an age-old battle and it's pointless as this is very subjective and changes over time.
Understand that it is normal for a person not to percieve huge difference between 60 and 90Hz if you are used to 60 and going to 90 short term. Your brain needs time to adjust and "speed up" your perception and it takes weeks or months. After that period of getting used to the fluidity of higher refresh display, going back to 60 should seem like a slideshow. Someone used to 60Hz will not see a huge difference, someone coming from 144Hz will immediatelly feel the screen lag at 60. Another thing is dark mode, dark mode indirectly raises your pixel response times, making movement more blurry and the 90Hz less prominent.
As for resolution on this phone, you can clearly see the small text in browsers is more blurry and causes more eye fatigue.
At the end of the day if you value the battery more than screen clarity, it's better to keep both low before you spoil yourself and there's no going back
we all know that on Android 9, not all the apps runs at 90Hz inclued Chrome, the reason is the battery consumption of course
idk if this still true on Android 10, but Chrome is runing at 90Hz on Android 10
so i guess, 1+ unlock the 90Hz to more apps, still mix it with the 60Hz to optimize the battery, so that is why we kind of dont see any differences
the only method to compare is download the Auto90 app from appstore, force the phone to runs at 90Hz all the time then you'll see there is differences or not
I dont mind about resolution since FHD+ is more than Reasonable with color tuning , but the frame rate is one of the main pros of one plus new line up .
So i force all them 90hz on all apps . Leaving iphone users insecurely baffled
I'm usually on a 240hz monitor. The 90hz screen is very nice feeling and whenever I look at my 6t I want to throw up.
^^LOL, good one's
Is there any possible way to install 90hz refresh mod ( present in Oneplus 7t ) on our Oneplus 7 ?
Is our OP7 supports that?
I saw some xiaomi flagships has such mods installed but why not in OP7 till now?
Any good reason?
Does it has anything to do with Fluid Amoled display?
Nonsense, it's hardware related, op7 screen only capable 60hz
krishna13 said:
Is there any possible way to install 90hz refresh mod ( present in Oneplus 7t ) on our Oneplus 7 ?
Is our OP7 supports that?
I saw some xiaomi flagships has such mods installed but why not in OP7 till now?
Any good reason?
Does it has anything to do with Fluid Amoled display?
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you can't overclock amoled panel. though you can overclock lcd panel. i have used my poco f1 in 70hz.
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Nonsense, it's hardware related, op7 screen only capable 60hz
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How come Xiaomi k20 pro with super amoled display capable for 90hz refresh rate then? is this a nonsense too?
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you can't overclock amoled panel. though you can overclock lcd panel. i have used my poco f1 in 70hz.
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Do you know how to do it? Any links or posts or topics ?
There are quite a few 60hz refresh rate phones that can use the 90hz refresh rate. Currently I have not found a way to open the 90hz refresh rate on Oneplus 7. I tried this app to turn on the 90hz refresh rate, because Oneplus 7 has no DTBO, it has not been successfully opened 90hz. But this is not due to hardware.
I request any developer to develop a mod for 90hz refresh rate for our op7 or provide a process to do so that i will test on my phone..
I'm pretty sure there's a way to increase the refresh rate.
What we'll need to find out, when a Dev actually looks into that, is how stable is it, and by how much? And will it be convenient enough (battery, durability).
I really hope that the screen is actually as good as OP7T
Any news about that?
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There are quite a few 60hz refresh rate phones that can use the 90hz refresh rate. Currently I have not found a way to open the 90hz refresh rate on Oneplus 7. I tried this app to turn on the 90hz refresh rate, because Oneplus 7 has no DTBO, it has not been successfully opened 90hz. But this is not due to hardware.
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Hey can you please share the download link of this app please???
abhik123 said:
Hey can you please share the download link of this app please???
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https://www.coolapk.com/apk/com.rise.rr
The app has been updated, but it still does not work for OnePlus 7.
There are many factors here.
For example: Mi 9 uses an 85Hz panel underclocked to 60Hz, that's the reason why this type of mods can easily enable this feature without any side effects (Ignoring the extra energy consumption of course), I don't know how Redmi K20/Mi9T screen is, but I assume it will be something similar.
Another important thing to keep in mind: OnePlus uses command-mode to control the panel (this method precludes any external modification that is attempted over the panel controller) while Xiaomi for some strange who-knows-reason uses video-mode (If I'm not wrong, Xiaomi is the only manufacturer that uses this method in high-end devices with OLED panels), and basically this method facilitates modifications to the the different dtbo's/panel controllers.
I don't want to break anyone's hopes, but currently I don't think anyone outside Samsung has the ability to change the refresh rate of this panel, these screens were strongly designed to work this way and only in this way.
There's an article saying that Sony's LCD screens can be overclocked to 120Hz. I was exited because high refresh rate screen is my second priority right after proccessor. Currently, Asus Zenfone 6 has all of the features I want:
- Headphone Jack (I drop OP7T out of my list because of this reason)
- Great Proccessor (Snapdragon 855)
- LCD screen (I prefer true color as my eyes hurt when I use AMOLED display unless I turn night mode on, which ruins the whole concept of vibrant and beautiful it provides. Also, no burn-in)
- Almost stock-Android (further more, Asus seems to be trying their best with their newest UI).
- Full screen display.
Is it possible to overclock the screen to 120Hz ? It has an LCD screen, similar to that of Sony, lower resolution is not a problem since I'm ok 1080 at the moment. If it's possible, this phone will destroy all last year Midrangers. Hope that you guys will answer!
From what I can deduce from the Proton Kernel post https://forum.xda-developers.com/ze.../kernel-zenfone-6-proton-kernel-v1-0-t3963948 it's maximum overclocking capabilities are 75Hz but most panels only manage 72Hz without artifacts according to the most recent changelog.