Dear forum.
Android phones are great laptop replacement but requires a wired monitor signal for persistence. Wireless screencasting tend to lag or disconnect after a couple of hours usage with bluetooth keyboard/mouse interfering with wifi so for repeated work you need a wired monitor signal.
By setting screen width to 4-500pixels in settings/developer options and using utility apps such as taskbar pc-style, leena desktop or sentio your phone becomes a highly usable desktop computer if connected to any tv, projector or monitor with hdmi capacity. Add to this a phones superior microphone for commands and voice to text funtion in google dox. Trouble is to find a phone with verified video capacity over usb, there are several standards and lots of rumors so Im hoping we may create a reference list of known devices with known capacity of video over usb with the good help of you folks.
Main Technology standards:
The two main tech standards are MHL and Displayport. MHL was early available on sony, samsung, LG and more devices via microusb ver 2. Displayport has grown later years with Huawei/Samsung devices over usb c ver 3. The older MHL over usb ver2 have difficulties handling more than video and sound, some devices such as sony Z5 may charge battery slowly when connected on MHL to external usb power but no guarantees. MHL over usb ver 2 have no capacity for keyboard/mouse or ethernet via usb, these must be connected via bluetooth.
Later usb ver 3 standard have capacity of video, sound, power and data, these devices can be connected to a hub with hdmi, keyboard, mouse, ethernet and still charge battery. There is plenty more to add about technology but lets keep to most basic info and focus on a list of devices with video signal over usb as I have not been able finding a complete list anywhere.
- There is also extra hardware available such as Displaylink which requires an app and displaylink chipped hubs but there is little information available so hopefully someone chips in with better info and proof of concept.
- There is windows phones with hdmi capability but I dont dare to mention so please contribute.
- Apple phones may have hdmi capability but there seem to be much rumors and guesswork without exact knowledge so please chip in if you have knowledge on this part.
- Several names/words are used referencing the function of connecting phone to external monitor. Samsung referencing as "Dex", Huawei "desktop mode", windows continuum, wired screencast, MHL, displayport, hdmi over usb,
All help completing the list is higly appreciated, please see this list as a suggestion this far while being completed/updated, the aim is to have a complete reference list of computer capable devices using the collective knowledge in this forum.
List of devices :
MHL, 5-pin microusb ver2 please see link att bottom for detialed list :
Samsung Galaxy 2/3/4/5/6
Samsung Galaxy Note 3
Sony Z3/Z4/Z5
Sony Z ultra
MHL, 11-pin microusb ver2 :
Samsung Galaxy Note 4/5
Displayport over USB C ver 3:
Huawei Mate 10 (huawei mate lite versions no video signal)
Huawei Mate 20
Huawei Mate 30
Samsung S8
Samsung S9
Samsung S10
LG G6
LG V20
LG V30
HTC U11
Devices rumored to have hdmi over usb but not verified (if you know please share your knowledge in comments) :
Samsung S7 (5/11 pin microusb ? MHL ?)
Xiomi redmi note 5 ?
Incomplete list at MHL tech.org : https://www.mhltech.org/devices.aspx?tid=1
Incomplete list of displayport devices : https://www.displayport.org/product-category/mobile/
All help to complete list is most appreciated, please be patient =0)
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Hey guys, I'm trying to set up a collection of knowledge about USB C Hubs for the Xperia 1.
Has anyone tested those yet? I want to expand this thread as more information is gathered.
Ethernet and USB Cameras don't seem to be supported at all.
So far i tested these ones.
Dell K17A001 original USB-C Port Replicator incl. AC-Adapter (130W)
EAN -
HDMI [✓] PD [✓] USB 3.0 [✓] SD/TF [✓]
Ethernet [✗] not recognized by the phone but by the switch / router
Onshida USB C Hub
EAN 8431238802982
HDMI [✓] PD [✓] USB 3.0 [✓]
SD/TF not tested yet
Ethernet [✗] not recognized by the phone but by the switch / router
AX88179
EAN 634475546338
Ethernet [✗] not recognized
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I bought this and so far is working great
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snake218 said:
I bought this and so far is working great
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The link isn't working for me. Mind posting the direct link of that thing ?
G4liant said:
The link isn't working for me. Mind posting the direct link of that thing ?
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Hope it works now https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32958486524.html?spm=a2g0n.orderlist-amp.item.32958486524&aff_trace_key=7f67a575e7754d489a7102b4afeb8a31-1566602456888-06725-UneMJZVf&aff_platform=msite&m_page_id=5152amp-TM5iRi7O9Y7Et5wisiiszg1566929404792
I've used Dell Universal Dock - D6000, it mirrors the screen and charges at the same time, using the DisplayLink Desktop (Demo) App and SecondScreen to adjust the resolution, I had a few suggestions for SecondScreen such as checking the resolution after connection and creating a new profile at connection time and then being able to re-map the profile if you accidentally connect in portrait instead of landscape, but so far no reply.
Ethernet doesn't work.
Video and audio works well, but the DRM prevented me using it to watch Netflix on a TV in a hotel room whilst on a work trip, the movie or show video isn't played, but the rest of the GUI is displayed including preview videos with audio. Strangely it works fine on PC on the same Dock, shrug, I'd figure that's where you would rip the video if you were going to. I guess it's OK though as the ChromeCast doesn't have the same DRM concerns, so I should just buy one of those perhaps. (unless someone could fix this ).
The new xperia 1 model supports Internet via ethernet its confirmed by SONY themselves.
tonev said:
The new xperia 1 model supports Internet via ethernet its confirmed by SONY themselves.
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Damn that's ridiculous. The normal xperia 1 sold for over 1000$ and now they introduce the Sony Xperia 1 Professional Edition with ethernet. Thats only a few drivers added to the kernel. Other smartphones for 150$ can do that, but sony has to be special about it.
Sony Xperia 1 support Ethernet with ThinkPad Hybrid USB-C dock: https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/pd500180
Out of curiosity, i tested my old adapter again. For some reason it is working now, Sony probably added more drivers in a later update.
Hi i will show you all on how to use Dex on your Samsung phones that support Dex without any accessories.
All you need to do is make sure your rooted and use Es File Manager or FX File Manager to navigate to system(root)/system then edit the build.prop
ro.build.characteristics=phone change the phone to tablet
once you have changed that save it and reboot then go to settings and disable your lock screen has there is a bug where it just reboots your phone so you have to use a custom lock screen like Hi Locker that's the best one i have used.
once that is done scroll down your notifications and click the 3 dots then button order there you will have Samsung Dex just put it in your notifications and then click on it and then there you have it Samsung Dex working on your phone
You will notice some apps will act like there on a tablet here is the list of apps
PHONE
MESSAGE
CAMERA
if you have any problems message me on discord T0PGlitch3r#5273
This makes for inefficient use of the screen/phone. Just spend the $30 and get yourself a USB-C hub with video out and use Dex as it's meant to be used. When I am on the road, I patch it into the hotel tv. I carry a mini wireless keyboard and mouse. Boom. Laptop replacement w/o the bulk. No root required.
After Android 10, we can use DeX mode with USB type C only. Cheers
Thanks for the nice tip!
I Love dex mode.
This tip is good for TV Samsung with mirror screen.
It Is my case :fingers-crossed:
But, if anyone needs to use dex wireless with any TV Brand
https://youtu.be/kiync9jFajE
This device do it without lag
Leon said:
After Android 10, we can use DeX mode with USB type C only. Cheers
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Hello Leon. My Samsung Galaxy Tab Active Pro is about getting upgraded to Android 10 on September. Do you mean with that Android version you just need to plugin the USBC to USB standard and it will work? At the moment I connect it to my MacBook using Samsung Dex and it doesn’t recognise my tablet... [emoji20]
Imaginos said:
This makes for inefficient use of the screen/phone. Just spend the $30 and get yourself a USB-C hub with video out and use Dex as it's meant to be used. When I am on the road, I patch it into the hotel tv. I carry a mini wireless keyboard and mouse. Boom. Laptop replacement w/o the bulk. No root required.
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Should this work?
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Hi all,
My goal is to to connect Fire TV and Chromecast devices to touchscreen displays, interacting with them similar to Android phones. I had hoped that touch input would be available out of the box but that is not the case. After much searching, it seems that touch input drivers are not included with either Fire OS or Google TV. Getting touch input working may require compiling the HID-Multitouch drivers and loading them into the kernels of Fire OS and Google TV.
I have some experience compiling from source on Linux, for Linux devices. I have no experience compiling from source for Android, Fire OS, or Google TV.
Questions:
Has anyone gotten touch to work on these devices?
Would a pre-compiled kernel module for Linux or Android work with Fire OS and Google TV kernels or do the drivers need to be compiled specifically for these devices?
If compiling specifically for these devices is required, what is the best approach be for someone who has never compiled anything for those devices before?
Desired state is a device that can connect to portable touchscreens via single USB connection and do not require additional devices (remotes) for user interaction.
The Zenscreen that I'm currently using supports HDMI input and touch output over USB-C but the monitor isn't capable of reverse charging. As a result, the USB-C hubs are needed in order to provide power to the Fire TV and Chromecast. If touch can be made to function practically the Zenscreen will be replaced with a portable touchscreen that supports reverse - possibly the 4K Uperfect.
Fire Stick is not capable of connecting via single USB port due to the limitations of the USB v2.0 Micro-USB port. It will require HDMI and USB cables to be connected to operate with touch.
Chromecast USB-C port capabilities are unclear and the USB version is not listed by Google. The device does not output HDMI over USB-C out of the box and I haven't determined whether that is due to software or hardware limitations.
Both devices output HDMI to the Zenscreen with the GQeeM HDMI to Micro-HDMI adapter and both devices accept power from the dockteck hub. The Fire TV also accepts power from the Apple hub.
The order of connection is USB-C charger --> USB-C hub --> (Chromecast or Fire Stick) --> HDMI to Micro-HDMI --> Zenscreen (via Micro-HDMI).
HID-Multitouch is connected to the hubs from the Zenscreen's USB-C port through a USB-A to USB-C cable.
Problems
Fire Stick and the Chromecast both fail to recognize the HID-Multitouch input device.
Chromecast complains about power from the Apple hub. Apple doesn't publish the power output specifications. According to this (unrelated) article the Apple hub should be capable of negotiating 7.5w (5v @ 1.5) output but there seems to be a problem with the negotiation and it's likely that the Chromecast is only receiving 5w (5v @ 1a).
Zenscreen was connected to laptop using the Micro-HDMI port and a USB-C cable in order to validate that the monitor outputs touch commands over USB-C while the Micro-HDMI input is active.
Devices & Versions
Fire TV Stick 4K: Fire OS 6.2.8.0 (NS6280/3233)
Chromecast w/ Google TV: Build Number: 210311.008 7350836
USB-C Hubs
Apple USB-C Digital AV Multiport Adapter
dockteck 4-in-1 USB C Hub with [email protected] HDMI HDR, 100W PD
HID-Touch Panel
ASUS ZenScreen Touch MB16AMT USB Portable Monitor
HDMI to Micro-HDMI Adapter
QGeeM Micro HDMI to HDMI Adapter
RMasterJ said:
Hi all,
My goal is to to connect Fire TV and Chromecast devices to touchscreen displays, interacting with them similar to Android phones. I had hoped that touch input would be available out of the box but that is not the case. After much searching, it seems that touch input drivers are not included with either Fire OS or Google TV. Getting touch input working may require compiling the HID-Multitouch drivers and loading them into the kernels of Fire OS and Google TV.
I have some experience compiling from source on Linux, for Linux devices. I have no experience compiling from source for Android, Fire OS, or Google TV.
Questions:
Has anyone gotten touch to work on these devices?
Would a pre-compiled kernel module for Linux or Android work with Fire OS and Google TV kernels or do the drivers need to be compiled specifically for these devices?
If compiling specifically for these devices is required, what is the best approach be for someone who has never compiled anything for those devices before?
Desired state is a device that can connect to portable touchscreens via single USB connection and do not require additional devices (remotes) for user interaction.
The Zenscreen that I'm currently using supports HDMI input and touch output over USB-C but the monitor isn't capable of reverse charging. As a result, the USB-C hubs are needed in order to provide power to the Fire TV and Chromecast. If touch can be made to function practically the Zenscreen will be replaced with a portable touchscreen that supports reverse - possibly the 4K Uperfect.
Fire Stick is not capable of connecting via single USB port due to the limitations of the USB v2.0 Micro-USB port. It will require HDMI and USB cables to be connected to operate with touch.
Chromecast USB-C port capabilities are unclear and the USB version is not listed by Google. The device does not output HDMI over USB-C out of the box and I haven't determined whether that is due to software or hardware limitations.
Both devices output HDMI to the Zenscreen with the GQeeM HDMI to Micro-HDMI adapter and both devices accept power from the dockteck hub. The Fire TV also accepts power from the Apple hub.
The order of connection is USB-C charger --> USB-C hub --> (Chromecast or Fire Stick) --> HDMI to Micro-HDMI --> Zenscreen (via Micro-HDMI).
HID-Multitouch is connected to the hubs from the Zenscreen's USB-C port through a USB-A to USB-C cable.
Problems
Fire Stick and the Chromecast both fail to recognize the HID-Multitouch input device.
Chromecast complains about power from the Apple hub. Apple doesn't publish the power output specifications. According to this (unrelated) article the Apple hub should be capable of negotiating 7.5w (5v @ 1.5) output but there seems to be a problem with the negotiation and it's likely that the Chromecast is only receiving 5w (5v @ 1a).
Zenscreen was connected to laptop using the Micro-HDMI port and a USB-C cable in order to validate that the monitor outputs touch commands over USB-C while the Micro-HDMI input is active.
Devices & Versions
Fire TV Stick 4K: Fire OS 6.2.8.0 (NS6280/3233)
Chromecast w/ Google TV: Build Number: 210311.008 7350836
USB-C Hubs
Apple USB-C Digital AV Multiport Adapter
dockteck 4-in-1 USB C Hub with [email protected] HDMI HDR, 100W PD
HID-Touch Panel
ASUS ZenScreen Touch MB16AMT USB Portable Monitor
HDMI to Micro-HDMI Adapter
QGeeM Micro HDMI to HDMI Adapter
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Hi!
Have you been able to connect the touchscreen to the Chromecast with Google Tv?
I’m having the same issue…
I need an android device with
- arm64 app support
- Android 7.1+
- Separate HDMI and USB ports
- Preferably more than 2GB of ram
It can be any sort of device (tablet, tv box, SBC, etc.) but the USB port *must* fully support usb accessory mode (what Android Auto uses). I already tried a Raspberry Pi 4 with KonstaKang's ROM on it but accessory mode wasn't working right. My end goal is to install the DJI Fly app on the device so I can connect my drone remote to it and have the video from it on a big screen without the latency that comes with casting over wifi. The remote acts like a usb host and triggers accessory mode so that's why I need a separate HDMI port.
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So in the year of Christ 2022, is there still any sort of way to output video on a Pixel 2?
Story goes so that I have one with a completely busted screen, that does not register anything at all, let alone show anything. Glass broken, touch screen broked. I read there's some sort of a solution, but it requires an app to be downloaded which obviously is impossible in this case.
Is there any solution besides getting this piece of junk fixed?
I was able to use USB adapter to HDMI (not DisplayPort over USB-C alt mode, but older DisplayLink technology over USB 2, plus adapter to USB-C, normally used for adding extra monitors to laptops etc), but it required a DisplayLink app, not sure if it downloaded it automatically or not but I typically install apps from Google App Store remotely, on a PC browser (and select my phone as the target). A mouse should also work with Android but you'll need USB hub, or a bluetooth mouse, so yes in theory it will work but not for DRM content like Netflix, and not sure about booting up, perhaps you can blidnly use external keyboard for PIN or password.
Edit: USB docks for laptops, with HDMI and more USB ports, also use the DisplayLink technology and may be worth a shot