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[Q] Root and then update or viceversa?

Hi, i got my first android and i´m VERY happy with it.
Although, i still want to make two things to make it better. Eliminate bloatware and update to gingerbread.
My confusion is that, to eliminate bloat i know i must ROOT, but should i root BEFORE updating or AFTER updating?
I have another doubt, will rooting affect functions of my phone like serving as a AP (access point) or any other???
Note: i do have the SGH-T959V (T-mobile´s) BUT it is unlocked and as i live abroad i´m using it with another telco. (Will rooting or updatind affect my conectivity to my other telco?)
THANKS in advance
Xavier

You need to first root in order to install a custom recovery, then the root should persist across different ROMs you flash.
I only encountered one ROM where I lost root after flashing, but I think that is rare.

Can ROOT be undone???
After the device has been rooted, if somethings comes out wrong, can i UNROOT it? and leave the phone as brand new???
Thanks

Yes, but I don't know how for the SGS4G.
For my Huawei U8100 it was as simple as reflashing the stock ROM, but for the SGS4G I don't think it is that easy. The closest thing to a stock ROM I found was a rooted stock ROM.

flash a stock rom with odin and use superoneclick root to unroot the phone. simple at that.

[Q] A pre-noob question

I am very new to the android world. my question is about the version of Lite'ning rom I should use?? My understanding is that I need not to have a rooted phone to use this? Good mine ain't rooted. Here is a pic of everything I think will help.View attachment 837063 Sorry about my literacy or lack of it.

You have to be rooted to run any custom rom.

download SuperOneClick and root your device, then install the ROM.

I'm actually scared to root because of the 'bricking' thing. I know nothing about this stuff. Will I mess up?? what to do after, if successful, etc.

Do the research. You can't run a custom rom if your not rooted. If it worries you so much maybe you should stay stock. Custom roms are not for everyone. There are risks and there are bugs that dev try to fix but each device is different and if bugs happen you need to be able to find and work out fixes for it.
Those that just root and flash without knowing what they are doing are bound to be mad when they brick their device.

Rooting is pretty easy but I would avoid flashing a new rom if your worried about rooting as it is more difficult and you need to be very sure what your doing first.
Dave
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You mean i can root my phone and keep the stock rom?? The reason for me wanting to do this is the Bloatware that is installed on it. Will I be able to get rid of them??

frnknchrst said:
You mean i can root my phone and keep the stock rom?? The reason for me wanting to do this is the Bloatware that is installed on it. Will I be able to get rid of them??
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Yes just root the device and buy Titaium back up pro and you all good to go.
You can do it without TIBU pro but it just makes it easier

[Q] Couple of Skyrocket/rooting questions

Hello everyone, I'm new to the forums and looking to root my ATT Skyrocket. But first a problem I've been having with it regarding wifi. The ability to connect to and hold a strong wifi connection isn't working right now. Even within ten feet of a router I still have the weakest signal and I don't understand why when my iPhone has a full wifi signal from the same spot. Anyone else have this problem?
I did some research and discovered some people complaining that the bloatware app ATT Smart Wifi was messing up their connection. So I want to root to get rid of bloatware, block ads, etc.
I also would like to install Cyanogen 10 (jellybean) onto my phone running 4.0.4. Now this doesn't require rooting, correct? But I want to root beforehand so can I flash this afterwards or will it cancel the root?
Basically I'm wondering if there's a specific order to flashing after installing a CWM, and if I can root and have Cyanogen 10 at the same time (and how).
And I have checked these helpful threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1773659
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1785999
Thanks for your time guys!

if your going to put a custom rom on your phone its best to have root even though it is no required and you can run a custom rom with root. majority of the reason for custom roms is for permission access to enhance the phones capabilities. and first thing you need to is root after your rooted you can flash any custom ROM that is made for the SKYrocket and root permission will stay

Read Vincoms sticky at the top of the Page
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crashpsycho said:
if your going to put a custom rom on your phone its best to have root even though it is no required and you can run a custom rom with root. majority of the reason for custom roms is for permission access to enhance the phones capabilities. and first thing you need to is root after your rooted you can flash any custom ROM that is made for the SKYrocket and root permission will stay
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wrong, when flashing roms, custom or stock, anything done before will get erased, even root, all custom roms are prerooted, this info in my stickies
stoopendis said:
Read Vincoms sticky at the top of the Page
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vincom said:
wrong, when flashing roms, custom or stock, anything done before will get erased, even root, all custom roms are prerooted, this info in my stickies
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So how can I root my phone and get the rom? Is there a way? It's the order of flashing things I don't understand. And your guide will be helpful once I know this, thanks for taking the time to create it!

yoscootski said:
So how can I root my phone and get the rom? Is there a way? It's the order of flashing things I don't understand. And your guide will be helpful once I know this, thanks for taking the time to create it!
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its stated in the sticky, quote from sticky:
TO INSTALL CUSTOM ROMS ON STOCK PHONES YOU DO NOT NEED TO ROOT THE PHONE , ALL YOU NEED TODO IS INSTALL A CUSTOM RECOVERY VIA ODIN, THATS IT. SAMSUNG MADE THE SKYROCKET VERY EASY TO FLASH CUSTOM ROMS.
ROOT IS ONLY REQUIRED FOR STOCK PHONES TO REMOVE BLOATWARE AND/OR MODIFY SYSTEM FILES FOR STOCK FIRMWARE, IT IS NOT NEEDED FOR CUSTOM ROMS AS THEY ARE ALREADY PRE-ROOTED.
ON STOCK FIRMWARE YOU NEED TO USE ODIN TO INSTALL THE TAR.MD5 FILE(NOT THE ZIP FILE) OF A CUSTOM RECOVERY(CWM OR TWRP) - ITS THE FIRST AND FOREMOST THING YOU NEED TO DO TO YOUR SKYROCKET TO BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING ELSE TO YOUR PHONE LIKE FLASHING ROMS AND ROOTING THE PHONE.
I REITERATE: YOU NEED TO INSTALL A CUSTOM RECOVERY BEFORE YOU CAN ROOT THE PHONE OR FLASH CUSTOM ROMS, YOU DO NOT NEED TO ROOT THE PHONE TO INSTALL CUSTOM ROMS.
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i dont know how to make it any clearer, rooting is not needed to flash roms.
flash cwm or twrp, then flash roms
for flashing roms, read the post for the rom u want to flash

yoscootski said:
So how can I root my phone and get the rom? Is there a way? It's the order of flashing things I don't understand. And your guide will be helpful once I know this, thanks for taking the time to create it!
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You should just use your crappy iPhone if you can't follow the simple guide. Lmao
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Questions about updating from 4.1.2 to 4.3. What Do I loose?

So I tried reading some other threads, but honestly, alot of it just sounds waaaaaay too technical to me. I have a rooted 4.1.2 Verizon S3. Im getting the OTA notification to instal 4.3, but I cant install it until I go back to stock and then install it after Im unrooted. But I dont know if doing any of this is what I'm getting for what Im loosing. I dont know what a difference in modems will make, or things like that, but the big one I see is that it locks out Bootloader and able to install custom roms. Does that mean I also loose my ability to boot into Clockwork Mod? Or the ability to boot to the rom installation screen (Vol Down, Home and Power, then Vol Up)?
So can someone just help me out, and to pull a phrase from the reddit book, explain it to me like im 5.

MattDusza said:
So I tried reading some other threads, but honestly, alot of it just sounds waaaaaay too technical to me. I have a rooted 4.1.2 Verizon S3. Im getting the OTA notification to instal 4.3, but I cant install it until I go back to stock and then install it after Im unrooted. But I dont know if doing any of this is what I'm getting for what Im loosing. I dont know what a difference in modems will make, or things like that, but the big one I see is that it locks out Bootloader and able to install custom roms. Does that mean I also loose my ability to boot into Clockwork Mod? Or the ability to boot to the rom installation screen (Vol Down, Home and Power, then Vol Up)?
So can someone just help me out, and to pull a phrase from the reddit book, explain it to me like im 5.
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OK, if you update to 4.3, it will lock your bootloader and you CAN NOT install custom rom/kernel or recovery (CWM/TWRP) any more. Your phone will be just like stock phone with stock recovery. The only option is you still can root. Just FYI, there is a work around called safestrap, basically it allow you to install custom recovery (CWM/TWRP) on a separate partition and so is your custom rom, don't want to get into this too much). Hope you got your answer.

Thanks. Thats really what I wanted to know. Do you know if this is something that will most likely forever be permanent or something that a fix or workaround to re-implement that ability back in the future?

MattDusza said:
Thanks. Thats really what I wanted to know. Do you know if this is something that will most likely forever be permanent or something that a fix or workaround to re-implement that ability back in the future?
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Based on history, we never hack the bootloader, the reason we could unlock the bootloader is there a leaks. So I won't hold my breath on this...However, currently we have a work around which called safestrap, an app that use a separate partition to install custom recovery and rom, kind of dual O/S. The negative is it support limited custom rom and cut down the storage space.

buhohitr said:
Based on history, we never hack the bootloader, the reason we could unlock the bootloader is there a leaks. So I won't hold my breath on this...However, currently we have a work around which called safestrap, an app that use a separate partition to install custom recovery and rom, kind of dual O/S. The negative is it support limited custom rom and cut down the storage space.
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I have faith that loki will work for our phone. If it does all we would need to do is lokify our aosp rom after we flash them in safestrap or have a pre edited rom. I think all we need to do is have the right aboot.img or someone who knows more about what to do than myself.

Is there a version of safestrap for the S3? I can only find ones for the s4 and the note 3 for samsung products.

MattDusza said:
Is there a version of safestrap for the S3? I can only find ones for the s4 and the note 3 for samsung products.
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Its in the development section. And just a FYI I was wrong Loki will not work with safestrap unless hash code applies the Loki patch to safestrap. I have a strange feeling Loki exploit is patched for our boot loader but we will see.

Differences between root and unlock bootloader

Is it true just because we have root does not mean that we can flash custom rooms and kernels?We still need the bootloader unlocked before we can flash custom roms and kernels right?and the bootloader needs to be unlocked in order to be able to flash a custom recovery onto the G7 correct?so if this is all correct then basically just being rooted don't really do alot for us without the bootloader being unlocked.could someone please tell me if I'm right or wrong. Thanks!!!

You are correct however there are alternatives to these things
1. Custom recovery: FlashFire.apk (This app allows you to flash zip files)
2. Custom ROMS: Launchers that can be modified by installing xposed modules (basically adding simple customization)
3. Kernals: Nothing... (As of now there isn't anything we can really do)
But basically yeah, without boot loader unlock we are very limited but there's always hope for development. So for now let's just sit tight and wait for the community and dev's to make some progress
Just think about it... It only took 5-4 months for devs to release root for the Qualcomm S7 (That to me is pretty freaking amazing).

With root you can use Xposed, and im not to sure of very many things you can't achieve with some xposed modules. Don't get me wrong you won't be flashing any cyanogen or similar but a xposed tweaked custom rom via wanam is a pretty bad mutha!. I flashed the deodexed rom from our dev section and have added xposed and I must say this s7 is finally the kind of impressive im used to.

biggest thing for me is the use of wifi tether. as long as you dont hook it to your xbox or other game console, it is really hard to determine what is using the band width...