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When (if) gingerbread is released, will it be the last update?

I'm wondering what you guys think. Will the gingerbread update be the last official update the g2x gets? Or do you think it will get ice cream sandwich and beyond?
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Officially? Who knows. But the fantastic devs will almost certainly release custom roms the will go beyond gingerbread.
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The alpha omega update? This was the case with the HTC shadow, just 1 update, it's first and last.
Any way what would be great and keep our G2x top of the line and extend it's life would be if nvidia were to release driver updates for the CPU/GPU, as they do for their PC graphics cards.
Nvidia is awesome at releasing timely updates of their video drivers, hopefully they consider doing it for their tegra chips.

One of the key points of doing a stock Android is to have a constant stream of releases. Once the bugs are worked out....updating to the most current android should not be a lot of new work.
The G2x has enough horsepower to run many more updates than just one or two

If not then it will be ported.
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I hope we do get more updates.
The thing is that LG is new in this game and I really hope they start doing best practices from other businesses, maybe Nvidia can help them push a little as well as T-Mobile to keep releasing updates even though that T-Mobile is less than likely to push them since they want to sell the last new thing.
But yeah, if they wise they'll and really care about their customers and want to position theirselves as one of the smartphone companies then they'll have to have the updates coming.
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Honestly I don't understand why this phone couldn't get multiple updates. I thought the whole reason for it having basic Android was so that it could be easier to udate. As well, rumor mill has it that later versions of Android are going to require a dual core, well this phone has everything under the hood for it to have a long shelf life. I hope they do right by this phone.
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Didn't the big phone companies recently promise Google they'd update their phones on a timely (regular?) basis.....

ickster said:
Didn't the big phone companies recently promise Google they'd update their phones on a timely (regular?) basis.....
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For the first 18 months after release. Its part of their contract with Google and the open hand set alliance.
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I think it remains to be seen if this phone is even a viable product. Will the phone ever be back in stock and saleable from T-Mo?
If a jillion more G2xs are sold then we will see many updates and a bunch of dev support. But, if the phone is never brought back then we are stuck in a dead end with a failed experiment.
I believe LG's future as trusted top-tier brand is at stake, but I'm still not certain they'll ever get it right.

If this update fixes all the issues and allows tmobile to resume selling their stock, than it will probably see more updates.
If after all this time they still can't get it right, and tmobile refuses to sell their stock? She'll be dead Jim. Of course this is all speculation... Nobody knows.
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People act like this is lg's first android phone ...I'm thinking the only way we get limited updates is of the merger goes through
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It'll be just like the g2, numerous updates because it's stock android...oh wait, nvm.
My guess is GB will be the last update.
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laker666 said:
People act like this is lg's first android phone ...I'm thinking the only way we get limited updates is of the merger goes through
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They have made a lot of second tier also-ran Android phones, but this is their first attempt at a serious smartphone contender in this market.

squish099 said:
For the first 18 months after release. Its part of their contract with Google and the open hand set alliance.
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Then we should see updates until September of 2012, no?

Spyvie said:
They have made a lot of second tier also-ran Android phones, but this is their first attempt at a serious smartphone contender in this market.
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And?
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laker666 said:
And?
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And... it remains to be seen if LG is ultimately capable of producing and supporting a top tier Android smartphone. Right now the answer to that question is no.

Spyvie said:
I think it remains to be seen if this phone is even a viable product. Will the phone ever be back in stock and saleable from T-Mo?
If a jillion more G2xs are sold then we will see many updates and a bunch of dev support. But, if the phone is never brought back then we are stuck in a dead end with a failed experiment.
I believe LG's future as trusted top-tier brand is at stake, but I'm still not certain they'll ever get it right.
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Crack smoking dreaming. The G2x is still being sold, that the actual web-store of T-Mobile does not have any instock is meaningless. They still are supporting their distribution channel, so those partners are not feeling left out in the cold. Amazon, Wirefly, Costco...they all still sell them. It is lame, very lame to define selling the phones from T-mobile as just via their webstore.
If you were selling phones for T-mobile as a third-party vendor, would you be happy that T-mobile hoards the supply? Or would you raise the price to make your vendors prices seem much better than they could do directly.
Thinking that LG that makes lots of phones, is going down by the simple fact that a backlight turned up to max brightness shows some bleed. Turning to max brightness in a darkroom even to watch movies is not likely.
Users already report that custom ROMs fix most if not all the software caused problem.
So your theory is that LG can not duplicate, or even outright use as basis other coders solutions to fix the problems. What are you 15?

Actually I'm 48, I've been working in IT since the early 90s and I haven't smoked any crack in months.

People keep fliping out on the G2X and calling it a failure. Here's a secret. Less than 1% of all the G2X's sold have been returned to TMO, I would say that's pretty awesome and does not signify any major issues. People are not screaming about the Sidekick 4G being a major flop even though you can't get it in stores or on the web right now either. It's called product shortage. The manufacutrer produced to little to keep up with the demand and that is unfortunate.
As for the long term upgrade viability of the phone, being a stock Android phone I see this phone having a nice healthy span for at least the next 18 months whether by Tmo and Google or through the Developers. The hardware can support it so there will be nothing stoping it.

Twice as good(better) than g2x

http://www.tmonews.com/2012/02/t-mo...lg-g2x/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Looks promising
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really not a fan of the g#x name scheme

Sounds good. I sure hope they don't screw up with it as they did with the G2x.
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I have no faith in that future lol.
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mt3g said:
I have no faith in that future lol.
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so if lg had not hand in making this device with the above specs it would soundssomewhat promising.

dligon said:
so if lg had not hand in making this device with the above specs it would soundssomewhat promising.
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The 720p & 21mbps thing also lg should be stepping their game up lol... I'll be going for specific processor chips from now on, I'm tired of the run around lol. Don't want to have to rely on awesome devs to support us.
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Not to be overly cynical, but I think this might be the reason LG hasn't outright said they will upgrade our phone to ICS. I fail to see how this new one would be such a cut above ours other than it will be sporting ICS. And yes, I know that LG has stated they will upgrade the O2X and they are basically the same phone so let's stay off of that merry-go-round.
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It will be hilarious if the next phone to that is G8x. G8 in Chinese sounds the same as the male part. Some believe it the reason why Canon skipped PowerShot G8 and directly to G9.

dligon said:
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/02/t-mo...lg-g2x/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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It'll be called the Optimus 3x, and the T-mobile version will be the G3x, because of the Tegra 3.
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dserber said:
Not to be overly cynical, but I think this might be the reason LG hasn't outright said they will upgrade our phone to ICS. I fail to see how this new one would be such a cut above ours other than it will be sporting ICS. And yes, I know that LG has stated they will upgrade the O2X and they are basically the same phone so let's stay off of that merry-go-round.
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Quad core processing, will have at least a gig of RAM, so twice as much RAM, 100% faster processing times. Not to mention a 4.7 inch screen, real 720p HD screen and 21 mbps radio instead of 14.4.

IRASadPanda said:
It'll be called the Optimus 3x, and the T-mobile version will be the G3x, because of the Tegra 3.
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That makes way more sense than G4x.
However, I am an LG owner scorned. It's either iPhone or Nexus device for me.
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darbear5610 said:
That makes way more sense than G4x.
However, I am an LG owner scorned. It's either iPhone or Nexus device for me.
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Amen
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This is a very tempting phone. But it's just hard to put all your cards in LG and nVidia again.

I will buy g4x, the screen on g2x look way better than Samsung and HTC phones, hopefully g4x will have nice and easy to clean screen.

If only it didn't say lg on it. Smh
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With Samsung dominating the Android phone market, it would be wise for LG to pull a Hyundai. Meaning, institute a 3 year update Guarantee on all phones going forward. Basically, within 3 months of a major release of Android (Think Eclair->Froyo->Gingerbread) you are Guaranteed the update, or you get a full refund on the price of the phone(What you paid for the phone when you bought it, granted you actually have to contact LG before getting the refund) That way you know that when you buy an LG phone you are assured you will have an updated phone. Sounds crazy? People said a 10 year warrantee was crazy, but Hyundai is doing pretty damn awesome right now. And 3 years worth of updates isn't asking for a heck of a lot.
Imagine the impact this would have on the industry? If successful, this would force HTC, Samsung, Motorola and other manufactures to get their stuff together and support phones instead of slight upgrades throughout the year (Think Droid3->Droid4 and Atrix->Atrix2, as well as the Myriad of phones related to the original EVO 4G).
It'll take a true leader to show this industry changing innovation, and someone who isn't a foolish corporate pig to pull it off. I just don't know if any corporation that makes our beloved phones have the courage or the scruples to actually try this.
Imagine, even as a sheeple consumer, seeing on a phone 3 year update guarantee on a big sticker on the box. Most would wonder what makes that special, and on the back can be a section explaining how most phones are forgotten a couple months after release, but if you get an LG phone, you are guarenteed your money back, if your phone isn't updated to the newest OS within three months of release. Then it could go on about how the updates help security and stability with the phone, as well as better support for future apps.
Could turn LG's business around. But what do I know? I just put out good ideas while the execs at LG release a highly anticipated phone only to have it fall on its face and walk away from it pretending it never happened, leaving it's customers high and dry...they clearly know what they are doing. Put me in charge of LG and I promise that they will be the smartphone leader in 2 years (any LG people listening ;P )

That's not wise at all…. LG will never ever guarantee that, considering android is developed by a different company. Who knows if future iterations of android will require significantly more power. Google's own Nexus One isn't even being updated to ICS, and that was only 2 years ago. Also LG will never be able to sell any low or mid range phones, considering they don't have top of the line hardware to begin with.
Then if LG fail to deliver their promise based on the first point, they have to essentially buy back 2-3 year old hardware they had already sold at their original price.
That idea is ludicrous and there is a reason it hasn't been implemented.
rauelius said:
With Samsung dominating the Android phone market, it would be wise for LG to pull a Hyundai. Meaning, institute a 3 year update Guarantee on all phones going forward. Basically, within 3 months of a major release of Android (Think Eclair->Froyo->Gingerbread) you are Guaranteed the update, or you get a full refund on the price of the phone(What you paid for the phone when you bought it, granted you actually have to contact LG before getting the refund) That way you know that when you buy an LG phone you are assured you will have an updated phone. Sounds crazy? People said a 10 year warrantee was crazy, but Hyundai is doing pretty damn awesome right now. And 3 years worth of updates isn't asking for a heck of a lot.
Imagine the impact this would have on the industry? If successful, this would force HTC, Samsung, Motorola and other manufactures to get their stuff together and support phones instead of slight upgrades throughout the year (Think Droid3->Droid4 and Atrix->Atrix2, as well as the Myriad of phones related to the original EVO 4G).
It'll take a true leader to show this industry changing innovation, and someone who isn't a foolish corporate pig to pull it off. I just don't know if any corporation that makes our beloved phones have the courage or the scruples to actually try this.
Imagine, even as a sheeple consumer, seeing on a phone 3 year update guarantee on a big sticker on the box. Most would wonder what makes that special, and on the back can be a section explaining how most phones are forgotten a couple months after release, but if you get an LG phone, you are guarenteed your money back, if your phone isn't updated to the newest OS within three months of release. Then it could go on about how the updates help security and stability with the phone, as well as better support for future apps.
Could turn LG's business around. But what do I know? I just put out good ideas while the execs at LG release a highly anticipated phone only to have it fall on its face and walk away from it pretending it never happened, leaving it's customers high and dry...they clearly know what they are doing. Put me in charge of LG and I promise that they will be the smartphone leader in 2 years (any LG people listening ;P )
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rauelius said:
With Samsung dominating the Android phone market, it would be wise for LG to pull a Hyundai. Meaning, institute a 3 year update Guarantee on all phones going forward. Basically, within 3 months of a major release of Android (Think Eclair->Froyo->Gingerbread) you are Guaranteed the update, or you get a full refund on the price of the phone(What you paid for the phone when you bought it, granted you actually have to contact LG before getting the refund) That way you know that when you buy an LG phone you are assured you will have an updated phone. Sounds crazy? People said a 10 year warrantee was crazy, but Hyundai is doing pretty damn awesome right now. And 3 years worth of updates isn't asking for a heck of a lot.
Imagine the impact this would have on the industry? If successful, this would force HTC, Samsung, Motorola and other manufactures to get their stuff together and support phones instead of slight upgrades throughout the year (Think Droid3->Droid4 and Atrix->Atrix2, as well as the Myriad of phones related to the original EVO 4G).
It'll take a true leader to show this industry changing innovation, and someone who isn't a foolish corporate pig to pull it off. I just don't know if any corporation that makes our beloved phones have the courage or the scruples to actually try this.
Imagine, even as a sheeple consumer, seeing on a phone 3 year update guarantee on a big sticker on the box. Most would wonder what makes that special, and on the back can be a section explaining how most phones are forgotten a couple months after release, but if you get an LG phone, you are guarenteed your money back, if your phone isn't updated to the newest OS within three months of release. Then it could go on about how the updates help security and stability with the phone, as well as better support for future apps.
Could turn LG's business around. But what do I know? I just put out good ideas while the execs at LG release a highly anticipated phone only to have it fall on its face and walk away from it pretending it never happened, leaving it's customers high and dry...they clearly know what they are doing. Put me in charge of LG and I promise that they will be the smartphone leader in 2 years (any LG people listening ;P )
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You, sir, are a genius.
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Yeah, basically same thing that was said about Hyundai, thanks for proving my point! "How can you support a car for 10 Years?!?!" And honestly, ICS really should've been release for the Nexus One. Low end phones going forward will be at about the level of the G2x and the original Transformer (Look up ZTE Tegra2 phone, it's considered a mid-level 2012 phone). Besides, this could be offered only to premium handsets.
Also, you assume that 100% of the people will actually take advantage of the warranty. Reality is about 12.5% actually use the warranty on products. I actually learned 30% in marketing, and in my 10 years in corporate business, it's actually more like 12.5%. Better marketing, vs at most 30% of people taking advantage of it (unrealistic)
The idea isn't ludicrous, it just saddens me that their are such self-limited minds out there.
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That's not wise at all…. LG will never ever guarantee that, considering android is developed by a different company. Who knows if future iterations of android will require significantly more power. Google's own Nexus One isn't even being updated to ICS, and that was only 2 years ago. Also LG will never be able to sell any low or mid range phones, considering they don't have top of the line hardware to begin with.
Then if LG fail to deliver their promise based on the first point, they have to essentially buy back 2-3 year old hardware they had already sold at their original price.
That idea is ludicrous and there is a reason it hasn't been implemented.
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On a scale of 1-10, how hard did we get screwed by LG?

If I see another crappy metro/huawei or no name device with sub-par or similar hardware compared to our phone running official ics, jb or cm10.1 I'm going to grab it and light it on fire. When I bought this phone it was a toss up between the galaxy s2 and the g2x. I bought the g2x because Mr. T-Mobile man talked me into it (they were the same price.) This was before I really knew anything about android as far as rooting and custom firm of course. This device could easily be given an official ICS update at the VERY least. LG screwed us, hard and long. On a scale of 1-10 I give this screwing a 9, ONLY because the amazing developers we have here stretched this device to its absolute limits and continue to do more. If it weren't for them, well I don't even want to think about that. So on a scale of 1-10, how hard do you feel you've been screwed by LG?

Pain-N-Panic said:
If I see another crappy metro/huawei or no name device with sub-par or similar hardware compared to our phone running official ics, jb or cm10.1 I'm going to grab it and light it on fire. When I bought this phone it was a toss up between the galaxy s2 and the g2x. I bought the g2x because Mr. T-Mobile man talked me into it (they were the same price.) This was before I really knew anything about android as far as rooting and custom firm of course. This device could easily be given an official ICS update at the VERY least. LG screwed us, hard and long. On a scale of 1-10 I give this screwing a 9, ONLY because the amazing developers we have here stretched this device to its absolute limits and continue to do more. If it weren't for them, well I don't even want to think about that. So on a scale of 1-10, how hard do you feel you've been screwed by LG?
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I'd actually rate it as a screwing of 10. The awesome quality of roms, updates and patches that the developers here have provided doesn't change the fact that LGE ****ed us over. I made A LOT of noise about this to Wind Mobile here in Canada early on because I didn't quite understand that it wasn't the carrier holding me back (Wind's P999 is still officially on Froyo if I'm not mistaken ... I installed CM7 immediately so I don't know if one update ever made it out).
Nothing but love for everyone here who tried to squeeze some additional life out of this device. Hell, if giveen manages to get the radio working (others have tried previously) then I'd say the G2x can once again be a half decent phone.
It's truly a shame that a vendor as large as LG would treat a community of consumers so poorly. Never again LG, never again ...

I'm going to say almost no chance off me getting radio to work. I'm being honest.
I've looked over it, examined it with a few other dev's and a couple programmer friends and everything points that it should work, the only thing we can't look at is the precompiled RIL

I don't think they screwed us that bad. From the get go lots of people had issues with this phone and chances are they have a new phone by now. I've had mine for 2 1/2 years now. Its the only phone I've been able to keep. Yes a working ics would be awesome but when I bought the phone I had no idea what any of that was lol. I played w/ a nexus4 and even though it was cool didn't feel the need to spend all that money for features I wouldn't use. Everything I need to do I can do on this phone. So on a scale of 1-10 I would give a 5 only because they screwed alot of people from the get go.
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Its all because of the tegra 2 chip, it was no longer supported by them...although samsung still does which is odd and awesome :0 stupid LG... if it had a qualcomm chipset it would still be have support from LG therefore never buy tegra devices lmao:silly:

10! Terribly mishandled by lg and they wiped their hands clean and pretended phone never existed. Backlight bleeding, major software issues even on gingerbread, yea we all know the potential it had but oh well. Ran with it for two years and glad to have left this junk phone behind
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giveen said:
I'm going to say almost no chance off me getting radio to work. I'm being honest.
I've looked over it, examined it with a few other dev's and a couple programmer friends and everything points that it should work, the only thing we can't look at is the precompiled RIL
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That's too bad, but knowing the amount of effort you and others have invested no one will complain (or shouldn't at least )
As soon as my contract is up and I can dump this phone without having to pay the remainder of the "Wind tab", I will be glad to move on to something that's NOT an LG product.

alexbevi said:
That's too bad, but knowing the amount of effort you and others have invested no one will complain (or shouldn't at least )
As soon as my contract is up and I can dump this phone without having to pay the remainder of the "Wind tab", I will be glad to move on to something that's NOT an LG product.
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Yeah, I am pretty disappointed myself. I came in here thinking that it would be a snap but I ended up stuck just as everyone else.
Its always proprietary files that are the issue.

It's not LG, not really. It's the carrier. Cheap ass carriers like wind (froyo) and tmo (gb) are the real fault. It's not Tegra either, since p990 got ics.
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bluenote73 said:
It's not LG, not really. It's the carrier. Cheap ass carriers like wind (froyo) and tmo (gb) are the real fault. It's not Tegra either, since p990 got ics.
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I'm pretty sure it is LG though. If LG doesn't release updates to the carriers, the carriers can't spend months and months injecting bloatware into those updates before releasing them to us. the suckers ...er customers.

bluenote73 said:
It's not LG, not really. It's the carrier. Cheap ass carriers like wind (froyo) and tmo (gb) are the real fault. It's not Tegra either, since p990 got ics.
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Then why did T-Mobile get GB and Wind did not? Wind ROMs have no bloatware at all.
From what I heard Wind didn't get the update because they didn't sell enough sets. That to me kind of makes sense.
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In the absence of a valid argument, 2+1=3 may be used to explain why the g2x did not get the ICS update!
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I was agreeing with you above (lol, posted reply to the wrong one).
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In the absence of a valid argument, 2+1=3 may be used to explain why the g2x did not get the ICS update!

mansa_noob said:
Then why did T-Mobile get GB and Wind did not? Wind ROMs have no bloatware at all.
From what I heard Wind didn't get the update because they didn't sell enough sets. That to me kind of makes sense.
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In the absence of a valid argument, 2+1=3 may be used to explain why the g2x did not get the ICS update!
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I was agreeing with you above (lol, posted reply to the wrong one).
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In the absence of a valid argument, 2+1=3 may be used to explain why the g2x did not get the ICS update!
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It still sucks ... especially for those of us suckers (*cough* me *cough*) who still have 14 months to go on their no contract "contract" with Wind.
Oh well, live an learn. This experience made me so wary of LG that I didn't snap up a nexus 4 when they were on sale in the play store

should have gotten it. Updates for the nexus are handled by Google directly, NOT LG....thank god lol

Pain-N-Panic said:
should have gotten it. Updates for the nexus are handled by Google directly, NOT LG....thank god lol
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Nexus 4 is boss . I love this phone. Won't need to get the n5 anytime soon .

alexbevi said:
It still sucks ... especially for those of us suckers (*cough* me *cough*) who still have 14 months to go on their no contract "contract" with Wind.
Oh well, live an learn. This experience made me so wary of LG that I didn't snap up a nexus 4 when they were on sale in the play store
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What contract? if you want out buy the phone from them. Really and truthfully you are buying the phone either up front or to cancel the "contract" they do not hold you in nor charge you more then needed to pay for the phone. I still don't understand why this concept is so hard for people to understand.
i would give a 9 for my experience with LG. within months the headphone jack went bad and would barely hold the plug, the usb port is crappy, and sometimes wouldn't charge properly (both were denied under warrenty. The lack of updates is the biggest issues. The only reason this phone had life is because of the Hard work of modders then they went and fudged all that with the new base band update that broke the Bluetooth for modded phones.
At the time this was suppose to be their flagship phone, it was also the beefiest and fastest phone on the market, I was told like may others it will be updated only to get nothing out of it. Worse is that they allowed and branded it incorrectly in the Canadian Market.
I'll give it a point since it was built like a brick, i have dropped it so many times (after the aforementioned issues) and it still kept chugging for just over 2 years, eventually the screen went weird and acted like someone was constantly tapping it so i swapped it with an S4, a phone i know for sure will be supported and i can actually find proper accessories for it. The price point of the Nexus 5 is temping for sure, but when i check most cell phone stores in my area They carry mainly iphone and samsung accessories, which make up over 80% of the stock in some stores. This goes to show the popularity of the phones

icewolf293 said:
What contract? if you want out buy the phone from them. Really and truthfully you are buying the phone either up front or to cancel the "contract" they do not hold you in nor charge you more then needed to pay for the phone. I still don't understand why this concept is so hard for people to understand.
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It's not hard to understand at all, it just kind of sucks. The "original" price was $350 for the phone, which the Windtab covers (and nullifies at the end of 3 years). After 24 months, the tab is sitting at $290. I could buy the phone out, but it seems like a waste of money. I'm otherwise happy with wind so I'll keep an eye out for a replacement phone and just wait another year for the "contract" to expire.
I tend to ***** about the G2x mostly since it seemed to hold so much promise, was dropped very quickly by the manufacturer, and as a result I've got something that can't be updated, but I still have to pay for. I probably wouldn't complain as much if I'd already finished paying for the phone

alexbevi said:
It's not hard to understand at all, it just kind of sucks. The "original" price was $350 for the phone, which the Windtab covers (and nullifies at the end of 3 years). After 24 months, the tab is sitting at $290. I could buy the phone out, but it seems like a waste of money. I'm otherwise happy with wind so I'll keep an eye out for a replacement phone and just wait another year for the "contract" to expire.
I tend to ***** about the G2x mostly since it seemed to hold so much promise, was dropped very quickly by the manufacturer, and as a result I've got something that can't be updated, but I still have to pay for. I probably wouldn't complain as much if I'd already finished paying for the phone
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The original premise of Wind was no contracts, you buy a phone from them full price, choose a plan, choose a payment option (pre or post paid) and done. People wanted subsidized phones so they brought out the Wind tab. Here you are paying for the phone AFTER you used it not before, there are still no extra fees for it if you want to leave early. And it's 24 months, never has it been 36 months. In the end you are still buying the phone and used it for quite some time now, except now for you it's $290 vs $350, you still saved money I don't get how It's not worth it?

Initially wind tab would take 36 months to pay off, after the CRTC changed the rules all the providers have now switched to 24 months. Only customers who got the plan after the rule change get the 2 year tab, the rest have to complete the full 3 years
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This was more of a gangbang situation. Lg got some, nvidia got some, and T-Mobile got a piece too. And if you're unfortunate enough to be screwed by wind they seem even more despicable still! Wind definitely deserves a 10.
Lg 8 for putting this particular modem on this particular phone.
Nvidia 4 for being present lol
T-mobile 5 for acting like this phone was the poop and then tossing it like a dirty diaper.
On the brighter side a lot of us are reaching the end of the line with this thing and if nothing else it's been a great learning experience. This phone is so picky about kernels and settings and charging that we've had to become super disciplined about how we treat our phone or else it burns your nightstand. Plus having witnessed the long and frustrating journey of many devs pushing this phone just a little further each time has definitely enlightened me on how hard these guys work for something we all profit from. Holy crap this post got long! My bad. Carry on.

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Initially wind tab would take 36 months to pay off, after the CRTC changed the rules all the providers have now switched to 24 months. Only customers who got the plan after the rule change get the 2 year tab, the rest have to complete the full 3 years
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Granted but he shouldn't really be complaining about the price of a phone he bought a year ago and using all this time, he should pay the price of when he started using it, not how much it's worth a year later, it's really just a selfish attitude

HDR10 update

Ok. The promised HDR10 update is scheduled this month..
Any news?
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Ok. The promised HDR10 update is scheduled this month..
Any news?
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Still no HDR10 update here. Eu version and yet in 1.10. Bad for HTC. First delays sending phone, now no HDR update, wondering why HTC is loosing money with his mobile division.

No HDR10 update here in China yet.
Chinese version of the phone obviously.

original.motorboy said:
Still no HDR10 update here. Eu version and yet in 1.10. Bad for HTC. First delays sending phone, now no HDR update, wondering why HTC is loosing money with his mobile division.
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it would be nice to get the update for the December security patch at the very least. we still have a few hours to go before December ends. OP did this with Nougat and Xiaomi just updated the Mi A1. HTC might surprise us, just with the phone deliveries.

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it would be nice to get the update for the December security patch at the very least. we still have a few hours to go before December ends. OP did this with Nougat and Xiaomi just updated the Mi A1. HTC might surprise us, just with the phone deliveries.
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Hehe still having hope. One reason for not buying HTC was this, no updates. Finally I bought it because I think it's one of the best phones this year.
But a phone with no support is not good, like you said still in October security patch. That's not good for a new phone. That's one reason to change this phone. A powerful one.

I knew this would happen. Im glad that I have cancelled the preorder and it seems that I wount be re-ordering. Sadly, sooner or later, you will all realize, that this is just a failed Pixel 2 project and HTC just wanted to get some money back and threw this to the market. There wount be any HDR10 support update (at least a working one) and certainly there wount be any brightness boost to the most dim display ever put to a flagship. Its really sad Im looking forward to buy something useable in April 2018.

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I knew this would happen. Im glad that I have cancelled the preorder and it seems that I wount be re-ordering. Sadly, sooner or later, you will all realize, that this is just a failed Pixel 2 project and HTC just wanted to get some money back and threw this to the market. There wount be any HDR10 support update (at least a working one) and certainly there wount be any brightness boost to the most dimm display ever put to a flagship. Its really sad Im looking forward to buy something useable in April 2018.
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I hope you were wrong. Actual pixel 2 XL is a failed pixel with a lot of screen issues like burning screen or blue screen, and so many other problems like sound recording video and well known others.
I think that HTC will update their phones but not as fast as they say or as good as they promised. Anyways I probably will change this phone in 2018.

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I knew this would happen. Im glad that I have cancelled the preorder and it seems that I wount be re-ordering. Sadly, sooner or later, you will all realize, that this is just a failed Pixel 2 project and HTC just wanted to get some money back and threw this to the market. There wount be any HDR10 support update (at least a working one) and certainly there wount be any brightness boost to the most dimm display ever put to a flagship. Its really sad Im looking forward to buy something useable in April 2018.
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LOL

Hdr10
The update will come. Don't worry. :good:

Quantumlogic said:
The update will come. Don't worry. :good:
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Hope so m8

Either way they lied about it coming in December lol

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Either way they lied about it coming in December lol
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That's a fact. But with or without hdr.. This thing is a amazing beast.

So true about that display I compared it to a V30 in store and theyre world's apart!
Phone is boss though all-round, I'm just worried about after sales support at the minute. If this phone runs into issues after the next 5 days (return window) then I'm into the waiting list of 3 months + without a phone, which would leave me kicking myself.
Currently on October patch too - UK. That's shocking. And who's to say we're even going to get one?
In two minds wether to return this and buy a supported device such as a Pixel 2 XL and sacrifice screen, or hold on to this beast and cross my fingers nothing goes wrong with it.

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So true about that display I compared it to a V30 in store and theyre world's apart!
Phone is boss though all-round, I'm just worried about after sales support at the minute. If this phone runs into issues after the next 5 days (return window) then I'm into the waiting list of 3 months + without a phone, which would leave me kicking myself.
Currently on October patch too - UK. That's shocking. And who's to say we're even going to get one?
In two minds wether to return this and buy a supported device such as a Pixel 2 XL and sacrifice screen, or hold on to this beast and cross my fingers nothing goes wrong with it.
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I'm worried about support of this phone too. Still in October patch and we are in 2018 now. I took this one instead pixel 2 XL mostly because screen issues of the pixel. Now I'm regretting it.
The camera is good but not as good as expected. No portrait mode or anything similar, also photos are a bit underexposed, a bit dissapointed with camera and max brightness.
So I'm waiting the HDR10 update to see if this can fix something with this phone, otherwise I will sell this and I will take a pixel.

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So true about that display I compared it to a V30 in store and theyre world's apart!
Phone is boss though all-round, I'm just worried about after sales support at the minute. If this phone runs into issues after the next 5 days (return window) then I'm into the waiting list of 3 months + without a phone, which would leave me kicking myself.
Currently on October patch too - UK. That's shocking. And who's to say we're even going to get one?
In two minds wether to return this and buy a supported device such as a Pixel 2 XL and sacrifice screen, or hold on to this beast and cross my fingers nothing goes wrong with it.
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My advice. Hold on to this beast! Updates will follow. Probably after the completion of the global U11 OREO update. HTC is a little busy these days. Service should not be a problem. When having problems contact htc directly.

The phone is not yet available in all Europe, let's wait and see what HTC will do. So far i'm enjoying it. I don't care about the HDR10 update, but they need to update the security patch, and minors tweaks on the camera.

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The phone is not yet available in all Europe, let's wait and see what HTC will do. So far i'm enjoying it. I don't care about the HDR10 update, but they need to update the security patch, and minors tweaks on the camera.
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I think camera need a big update. It's just correct but not the camera it is supposed to be. I will say that u11 normal has better camera than this, it has lot of noise in low light and low detail in general. Video it's just OK, but not awesome. If they manage to upgrade the camera can be one of the top 3, it has potential to it.

I've compared the cameras of the U11 plus with the U11. And yes you are right. I did see some difference between them. Hardware is the same so I believe they will fix it with the first update. But... The frontcam of the U11 plus is better.

Still waiting for a update HTC. No hdr10 no security patch, still in October.
You're doing it wrong HTC. Thinking about a change to mate 10 pro.

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Still waiting for a update HTC. No hdr10 no security patch, still in October.
You're doing it wrong HTC. Thinking about a change to mate 10 pro.
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I have the Mate 10 Pro
You will gain screen brightness, better battery and more software features
You will lose smoothness, better camera, better audio, less bugs

Still good?

I don't like paying top dollar for latest phone. Currently using S7. Would the Pixel still be a good phone to use in mid 2018? I thought about pixel 2 but want headphone jack.
How much longer will original pixel be updated?
Thanks, any feedback or recommendation would be great.
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It's still a decent phone. The only issue is guaranteed software updates end in October of this year, so technically Android P might be the last it gets. Security updates are till October 2019.
I suspect Google may try to deliver a "9.1" update to Pixel but 10 is unlikely. I guess you need to decide how bothered you are about getting the latest and greatest software.

mario24601 said:
I don't like paying top dollar for latest phone. Currently using S7. Would the Pixel still be a good phone to use in mid 2018? I thought about pixel 2 but want headphone jack.
How much longer will original pixel be updated?
Thanks, any feedback or recommendation would be great.
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If you have a s7 that's still good, no use in getting a pixel unless you wanna feel like you downgraded, unless your intentions were getting twrp

The pixel is still a great buy. You can get it for a reasonable price (under $200) and it still gets OTA updates.
Maybe I'm one in a million, but I prefer RR because Google's OTA updates are lacking in features. Very barebones in comparison to other phones and ROMs I've used, but I imagine most people prefer that.

Pixel has mic hardware issues. Supposedly resolved in phones manufacturered after Jan 17 but it pops up now and again. I'm going to request for my 2nd rma for this problem.
Go for the pixel 2 is my take