Every couple hours I check my data connection and the slide bar is in the off position. Any idea why it keeps turning itself off?
Wow, you guys are awesome.
Thanks for the help.
could you possibly be losing service every hour or so depending on if you're moving around? maybe it's set to auto disconnect?
why do u want it on all the time?
Wow... Patience some of us live outside of forums....
There are plenty of reasons why your data keeps turning off, it has issues, it is being force off by your provider? Sim issues? Phone problems?
Some more details might be nice as well. Applications, recent changes, rom, usage...
I leave my data on non stop, I have to refresh it off and on but eh. Unlimited data. I chop through 5 - 600 mb a month easy.
Start > Settings > System > Advanced config (if you dont have it - get it) > Menu > More settings > Connections: Select your data connection and set to "always on"
Or find the reg key & edit it manually, i cant remember where it is right now.
You do know you could easily have found that by reading the forums right.....?
Beeble said:
Start > Settings > System > Advanced config (if you dont have it - get it) > Menu > More settings > Connections: Select your data connection and set to "always on"
Or find the reg key & edit it manually, i cant remember where it is right now.
You do know you could easily have found that by reading the forums right.....?
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I searched in the forums for "data connections turning off" and "data connection" and found nothing.
Beeble said:
Start > Settings > System > Advanced config (if you dont have it - get it) > Menu > More settings > Connections: Select your data connection and set to "always on"
Or find the reg key & edit it manually, i cant remember where it is right now.
You do know you could easily have found that by reading the forums right.....?
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Thanks. I did not easily find this. This forum page is the first place I found and I wanted to thank you. I had just added Advanced Configuration program this morning and all of the sudden the Data Connection kept turning off. But I didn't know how to get to the "more settings" option.
Thanks again.
I need an explanation about the NlpWakeLock process and the different decentralized options of location services. It's draining my battery, 10% per 5 hours. I've tested it with "Wakelock Detector" app.
I've already read the Google article, but it isn't very clear at all.
Here they are my device and settings:
[[ Android ICS 4.0.4 ]]
** Settings -> Location Services
|_____________ Wifi location = on (shows a dialog telling that Google will collect and send anonymous data, is this NplWakeLock process? 1)
|_____________ GPS = off
|_____________ Google search based on your history = off (what's the difference with the Location History option from Google Maps app? 2)
** Google Maps App -> Google Location settings
|_____________ Location Reports = off
|_____________ Location History = off (what happens if it is "on" and Reports are "off"? does it keeps sending data? 3)
** Google Settings app -> Android Device Manager
|_____________ Locate Device remotelly = on (is it collecting data periodically or it just activates when a solicitude to locate it is given? 4)
|_____________ Let block it remotelly and factory reset = on (idem as above)
So, those were my particular questions, I added numbers next to them to make it easier to answer.
If anyone knows something about it is welcome and I think it would be useful for anyone googling it later.
This would be a big leap in privacy if we can pull it off together.
Do you know if there is a way to permanently disable precise location & Wi-Fi scanning switches from turning on?
Google Location Accuracy = assisted_gps_enabled
How can we turn this (permanently OFF!)
Wi-Fi scanning = wifi_scan_always_enabled
How can we turn this (permanently OFF!)
Bluetooth scanning = ble_scan_always_enabled
How can we turn this (permanently OFF!)
Keeping in mind these basic inviolate privacy rules... everything below that question above is merely a detail as to WHY I want to permanently turn these three switches off.
Never do I need or want to use anything but the GPS radio for location accuracy.
And never do I wish to upload my location to Google.
And never do I wish to upload anyone's Wi-Fi AP BSSID to Google
And never will I create ANY account on my phone (especially a Google Account!).
The pernicious problem described below did NOT use to be the case.
android.permission.ACCESS_BACKGROUND_LOCATION
Luckily, this stays off usually, after I turn it off
android.permission.ACCESS_COURSE_LOCATION
Practically, this is required for GPS, so it must be turned on
android.permission.ACCESS_FINE_LOCATION
I NEVER want this on but this keeps turning back on
It seems now, that every "map related" app that links in the GSF spyware, forces upon us wholly unnecessary de facto Google spying by needlessly requiring the app to turn on two pernicious Google spyware settings, even if you constantly turn those to settings off!
Google Location Accuracy = off
Wi-Fi scanning = off
It used to be that apps which needed your location would politely "ask" but you could turn on the GPS radio manually, and the map-routing apps would all accept that they had sufficient GPS-only information without resorting to uploading your location needlessly to Google servers.
Recently I tested the following parked-car finder apps, all of which perniciously turned on these completely unnecessary Google GSF spyware uploads to the Google servers!
Parked Car by Myroslav Kolodii
Free, ad free, requires GSF, 4.4star, 179 reviews, 10K+Downloads
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.unagit.parkedcar>
Car Location by DigitalBox Studios
Free, ad free, requires GSF, not rated, not reviewed, 500+Downloads
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.carparking.location>
Find my parked car by Aurum App
Free, has ads, requires GSF, 4.6 star, 32.7K reviews, 1M+ Downloads
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=it.carfind>
The technical part of this privacy problem is no matter how many times I turn precise location off, either globally or per app, many (if not almost all) location-aware apps (with GSF spyware linked in) turn it back on.
I don't ever want any app to ever be able to turn precise location on.
I have zero desire to use Wi-Fi access points and Bluetooth beacons to determine my precise location, particularly since I often spoof GPS. (I'm guessing the bluetooth spyware switch uses beacons, but I don't know that for a fact.)
Unfortunately for me, almost every app which asks for location nowadays (which uses the GSF spyware), automatically turns on both "Use precise location" & "Wi-Fi Scanning" no matter whether you've already turned precise location access off for that specific app a billion times already.
To be clear, this location tracking spyware situation doesn't matter if you don't even have a Google Account on the phone (which I don't have) because that's not the location tracking that I'm talking about here.
Android 12 Settings > Privacy > Google location history > empty
{I'm not talking about this location tracking as I have no Google Account
It doesn't even matter if you've globally turned the switches off in the Android 12 settings!
Android12 Settings > Location > Location Services >
Google Location Accuracy = off
Wi-Fi scanning = off
Bluetooth scanning = off
Even if you have every app that needs GPS set to "Allow only while using the app", many of those apps will ask EVERY TIME for "precise location".
Android12 Settings > Apps > Permission manager > Location > {app} >
Use precise location = off
The reason is most gps-enabled apps keep turning these precise location switches back on!
Even if you have your Wi-Fi radio & Bluetooth radio turned off, many of those apps still ask EVERY TIME for "precise location" - and worse - the apps won't run until you say yes to the request for location, and then saying yes will automatically turn on precise location every time.
Worse than all that, even if you already turned on the GPS and you already turned off precise location for all your apps and you already set every app to only use the location when the app is running, still most apps will ask for precise location (and then you can manually turn it off yet again).
I turned off all the system apps location permission that I could in
Android12 Settings > Location > App permissions >
Show system > Allowed all the time >
But some of them are grayed out and therefore can't be turned off.
Fused Location = Allow all the time (grayed out)
Fused Location = Use precise location (grayed out)
Samsung Location SDK = Allow all the time (grayed out)
Samsung Location SDK = Use precise location (grayed out)
The fact remains that, since I care about my privacy, I do NOT wish to upload my location to Google servers. Nor do I wish to upload all the BSSIDs around me to Google. And I also don't want any app using them for location. Ever!
I will never want precise location to be turned on, mainly because it gives away my true location (in terms of other people's Wi-Fi access points) and more importantly because I never will need location accuracy better than GPS which is just fine for what I want and for what I need.
In summary...
Do you know if there is a way to permanently disable precise location & Wi-Fi scanning?
NOTE: I'm not rooted (the Galaxy A32-5G SM-A326U apparently can't be rooted) & I therefore don't have Tasker nor, for privacy reasons do I have IFTTT (if this, then that requires a mothership account) but just in case automation forms the basis of a workaround, today I installed both MacroDroid & Automate which are better behaved than IFTTT is on privacy (but I don't yet know if they can do the job of turning off the GSF "assisted_gps_enabled" & inherently malevolent spyware permissions).
Also I have adb working well from Windows over Wi-Fi (for scrcpy/sndcpy & vysor), so maybe I can permanently revoke the permissions using that?
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REFERENCES
<https://developer.android.com/training/location/permissions>
<https://developer.android.com/training/location/permissions#upgrade-to-precise>
<https://www.androidpolice.com/how-to-disable-google-location-tracking/>
<https://www.reviewgeek.com/127460/how-to-disable-precise-location-tracking-on-iphone-or-android/>
<https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/how-to-get-google-to-quit-tracking-you>
<https://hothardware.com/news/stop-apps-knowingprecise-location-and-why>
<https://androidforums.com/threads/how-to-disable-high-accuracy-location-service-permanently.1267243/>
Using ADB you at any time can grant / revoke permissionsA one-liner that helps granting or revoking vulnerable permissions.
granting
Code:
adb shell pm grant <sample.package.id> android.permission.<PERMISSION_NAME>
revoking
Code:
adb shell pm revoke <sample.package.id> android.permission.<PERMISSION_NAME>
Did you manage to achieve your goal? Using App Ops is really showing how often google checks your location...
Is the adb idea working?
Yeah, that stuff is all pernicious.
I run an external GPS through UDP and mock location daemon.
I don't want Google to ever listen for WiFi or BT.
It's pesky, every time I start Maps it's always asking me if I want to turn their stuff on.
Bad news.
Apparently Google has recently changed the
Android Google Maps app such that it no longer routes using only GPS.
I tested it without a Google account, and with the following turned off in the Android 12 Settings.
Settings > Location > Location services >
Google Location Accuracy > Improve Location Accuracy = off
Settings > Location > Location services > Improve Accuracy
Wi-Fi scanning = off
Bluetooth scanning = off
Google Maps now requires WiFi scanning to use navigation [April 4, 2023]
<https://www.deceptive.design/articles/google-maps-now-requires-wifi-scanning-to-use-navigation>
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https://www.reddit.com/r/hackernews/comments/si6wx2
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1488641697227624448>
<https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30167865 >
<https://gigazine.net/gsc_news/en/20220204-google-map-wi-fi-gps/>
"Now, enter a new update. I can no longer navigate with Google Maps, unless
full location tracking is on. Comments in Play Store indicate others hit
the same wall."
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"a further update to Google Maps will prevent navigation on Google Maps
without fully allowing location tracking."
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Even the official Google Play Store Google Maps app description says it can't use only GPS anymore also.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.maps
There are only two choices now, none of them are GPS only anymore.
Location Permission
"precise location (GPS and network-based)"
"approximate location (network-based)."
There no longer seems to be an option in Google Maps for GPS only location. Am I right or wrong?
GalaxyA325G said:
Bad news.
Apparently Google has recently changed the
Android Google Maps app such that it no longer routes using only GPS.
I tested it without a Google account, and with the following turned off in the Android 12 Settings.
Settings > Location > Location services >
Google Location Accuracy > Improve Location Accuracy = off
Settings > Location > Location services > Improve Accuracy
Wi-Fi scanning = off
Bluetooth scanning = off
Google Maps now requires WiFi scanning to use navigation [April 4, 2023]
<https://www.deceptive.design/articles/google-maps-now-requires-wifi-scanning-to-use-navigation>
<
https://www.reddit.com/r/hackernews/comments/si6wx2
>
<
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1488641697227624448>
<https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30167865 >
<https://gigazine.net/gsc_news/en/20220204-google-map-wi-fi-gps/>
and
Even the official Google Play Store Google Maps app description says it can't use only GPS anymore also.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.maps
There are only two choices now, none of them are GPS only anymore.
Location Permission
"precise location (GPS and network-based)"
"approximate location (network-based)."
There no longer seems to be an option in Google Maps for GPS only location. Am I right or wrong?
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For me Wifi-Scanning is off and Maps works fine. Not sure though, if Maps is maybe somehow still using it or whatever google/maps able to do.
Iam on Android 13 though (and custom Rom + rooted, not sure how much this plays a role)
Bad news.
Apparently Google has recently changed the Android Google Maps app such that it no longer routes using only GPS.
I tested it without a Google account, and with the following turned off in the Android 12 Settings.
STEP 1
In Settings | Location | Location services, turn everything off.
Specifically make sure three things are off that are important.
Google Location Accuracy
Wi-Fi scanning
Bluetooth scanning
STEP 2
Then go to Settings | Location | App permissions & find "Maps."
Make sure the only setting turned on is "Allow only while using this app."
Specifically make sure "Use precise location" is definitely turned off!
STEP 3
Then turn ONLY the GPS (blue marker) on (Settings | Location | On).
Now try to route in Maps from your current position to any other location.
STEP 4
When you start Google Maps (remember, you're not logged into Google at any time), you can press the bullseye to find your current location (it will momentarily complain on the bottom that "Precise location denied" with a link to "Settings")
If you don't get that warning, then go back and check that you didn't enable it for Maps because that warning is what forces precise location.
STEP 5
Then in the Google Maps search box, enter somewhere a few miles away.
You'll get the normal half screen of map and half screen of pictures.
STEP 6
Press the blue "Directions" button and you'll get the white "Choose start location" box, which when you press it, you get a choice of "Your location" or "Choose on map" so you select the "Your location" option.
You will again get the "Precise location denied" warning, with a link to "Settings" which if you don't allow - you can't route anymore.
REFERENCES:
Google Maps now requires WiFi scanning to use navigation [April 4, 2023]
https://www.deceptive.design/articles/google-maps-now-requires-wifi-scanning-to-use-navigation
https://www.reddit.com/r/hackernews/comments/si6wx2
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1488641697227624448
https://gigazine.net/gsc_news/en/20220204-google-map-wi-fi-gps/
https://gigazine.net/gsc_news/en/20220204-google-map-wi-fi-gps/
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Even the official Google Play Store Google Maps app description says it can't use only GPS anymore also.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.maps
There are only two choices now, none of them are GPS only anymore.
Location Permission
"precise location (GPS and network-based)"
"approximate location (network-based)."
There no longer seems to be an option in Google Maps for GPS only location.
Am I right or wrong? (Remember, I tested this without a Google Account set up on the phone.)[/CODE]
[PRIVACY] When you force stop & disable Google Play Services, does that one action alone change your Android 12 Settings to remove Google spyware?
As part of the research in the thread on Google Maps no longer working only with GPS, and as a follow on to preventing Google from turning on Wi-Fi location scanning, I noticed something really INTERESTING when I forced stopped & disabled Google Play Services.
STEP 1
Google Play Services is running and Google Maps exists on Android 12 (but I'm never logged into anything because my phone is set up for privacy, which means there are no Google or Samsung accounts).
STEP 2
I force stop & disable Google Play Services.
STEP 3
That immediately causes Android 12 to complain about Google Maps not being able to work.
STEP 4
No big deal. So I force stop & disable Google Maps.
STEP 5
That not only stops Google Maps from complaining but that removes Google Maps from my homescreen.
STEP 6
Nice. But it also does two very interesting things (probably more I haven't noticed yet).
STEP 7
Notice that the Android 12 LOCATION SERVICES menu is now COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!
(I tested this twice by re-enabling Google Play Services so it's definitely repeatable.)
STEP 8
Interestingly, even the Organic Maps offline maps app had its settings COMPLETELY CHANGED!
(Again, I tested this twice and it's consistent that these things are directly related.)
In summary, by force stopping & disabling Google Play Services, two things immediately happened.
1. The Android Location Services "google alert crap" was all completely wiped out (yay!)
2. Any app that had a switch for "Google Play Services" location spyware was also wiped out (yay!)
I just did it a few minutes ago and everything else seems to be working just fine (I will report back tomorrow)......
Can someone who knows more than I do about this shed some light on what's going on?