Hi Guys,
Basically my provider is Virgin Uk who is an MVNO. They use TMobiles network. TMobile has an agreement with Orange so that we can use their network when the TMob/Virgin signal is not good. Once I am on the Orange network, the network name changes to 'Virgin' from the normal 'virgin'.
Note, in the notification pull down tray where you can see the current network, when I am on my home network ('virgin'), it shows as 'no service'.
Whilst I am on the 'virgin' network (actually the TMob network), I can use data without any changes to the roaming settings. If I swap over onto the 'Virgin' network (actually the Orange network), Android tells me that I am roaming and thus I have lost data. At this stage I have to change the roaming settings to enable data.
In my CM9 rom, I have an option to enable 'National Data Roaming'. Should this option allow me to use data on the 'Virgin' network (actually the Orange network)?
This doesn't appear to be the case and I have to switch on the main 'Data Roaming' option which would then mean when travelling abroad where I am actually roaming, I would get charged for any data usage.
Does anyone have ideas on how to sort this out so I don't have to keep changing my Roaming options?
Thanks
I have quite a specific problem:
I live near the national border and my mobile network selection has to be set to manual, because otherwise it would randomly switch to roaming on a network from the other country, even though my home network coverage is practically 100%.
But quite often I do cross the border to area out of reach from my home mobile network and then I have to set it to automatic or manually select foreign network.
Now, the problem is when I get back home, i have to switch again. This switching is often and annoying. And forgetting to switch can also be expensive.
So I'm searching for an app that would allow me to toggle a switch (widget preferably) that would change network selection setting to automatic when i intent to leave my country and switch again to set it to manually connect to my home network when i come back.
Does any body know about an app that would allow me to do that or does anyone have a similar problem?
I'm thinking about creating an app like this though.
Similar Problem... Setting Preference Order for Mobile Networks
I have a Moto G 2013 running Android 5.0.2.
In Bangalore(where I live), Airtel has the highest 3G coverage. But I am on Vodafone (more coverage in my area and less tariffs) which does not have its own 3G network yet. So I manually set my network preference to Airtel while I'm outside. But I need to manually change the network back to Vodafone at home if I want to stay connected.
Setting to Automatic does not help as it always chooses Vodafone and so no 3G.
So I would like to know if there is any way to solve my problem and if there is any app to set preference.
Thanks a lot!
biftekman said:
I have quite a specific problem:
I live near the national border and my mobile network selection has to be set to manual, because otherwise it would randomly switch to roaming on a network from the other country, even though my home network coverage is practically 100%.
But quite often I do cross the border to area out of reach from my home mobile network and then I have to set it to automatic or manually select foreign network.
Now, the problem is when I get back home, i have to switch again. This switching is often and annoying. And forgetting to switch can also be expensive.
So I'm searching for an app that would allow me to toggle a switch (widget preferably) that would change network selection setting to automatic when i intent to leave my country and switch again to set it to manually connect to my home network when i come back.
Does any body know about an app that would allow me to do that or does anyone have a similar problem?
I'm thinking about creating an app like this though.
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santoshsatvik said:
I have a Moto G 2013 running Android 5.0.2.
In Bangalore(where I live), Airtel has the highest 3G coverage. But I am on Vodafone (more coverage in my area and less tariffs) which does not have its own 3G network yet. So I manually set my network preference to Airtel while I'm outside. But I need to manually change the network back to Vodafone at home if I want to stay connected.
Setting to Automatic does not help as it always chooses Vodafone and so no 3G.
So I would like to know if there is any way to solve my problem and if there is any app to set preference.
Thanks a lot!
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Try these:
• https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.dinglisch.android.taskerm&hl=en
• https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=it.miabit.android.dataonoff&hl=en
• https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.amol.ads&hl=en
• https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gudaps.smartdataswitch&hl=en
Hello,
My network uses national roaming when there's no coverage. National roaming is free under my contract conditions for voice calls, but it has a limit on data transfers.
Now the phone do not automatically get back to the home network, but I know the areas where my home network has coverage. Under current conditions I have to go to Settings-Mobile Networks-Network operators ... there the phone will search for available networks, which take a lot of time.
Is there any method or app to bypass the searching and force the phone to choose the default network?
Regards,
cosminnn said:
Hello,
My network uses national roaming when there's no coverage. National roaming is free under my contract conditions for voice calls, but it has a limit on data transfers.
Now the phone do not automatically get back to the home network, but I know the areas where my home network has coverage. Under current conditions I have to go to Settings-Mobile Networks-Network operators ... there the phone will search for available networks, which take a lot of time.
Is there any method or app to bypass the searching and force the phone to choose the default network?
Regards,
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I'd like too no this please
Anyone
cosminnn said:
Hello,
My network uses national roaming when there's no coverage. National roaming is free under my contract conditions for voice calls, but it has a limit on data transfers.
Now the phone do not automatically get back to the home network, but I know the areas where my home network has coverage. Under current conditions I have to go to Settings-Mobile Networks-Network operators ... there the phone will search for available networks, which take a lot of time.
Is there any method or app to bypass the searching and force the phone to choose the default network?
Regards,
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Unfortunately the phone does what it is supposed to: stick to the network that has the best signal. The roaming network should "kick" the roamer out but that requires communication between Voda and Digi, something which most probably won't happen
PS: usually airplane mode on-off worked for me on my N5 with Digi Mobil.
Anyone any more input on this
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Hi everyone,
I have two option in Settings>Mobile data>Network operators:
Search for networks (Choose from a list of available networks)
Choose network automatically (Automatically use the most suitable network)
I've chose first option and set my carrier network. Any time I come close to country border, the phone turned automatically to roaming network, because they has stronger signal. It's very frustrating for me, especially because I still have the reach of my carrier network.
I need real manual select network option, is there any other adjustment?
I have the exact same problem and it's absolutely unbearable. This page is the first I can find after long searches, too bad there is no answer.
I'd like to force my Pixel 7 to disconnect from any mobile network, without using airplane mode. Do you know a way to achieve this?
Reason for asking this: I will travel abroad and use a secondary SIM to provide me with data, while using my primary SIM with voWiFi (or Backup calling). That'd would keep me reachable on my phone number and allow me to make calls/SMS @home at local rates.
The reason for having my primary SIM disconnected from any mobile network is due to the fact that my primary carrier will charge me for calls/SMS depending on the latest place I got connected to a mobile network. They charge roaming fees even when you're using voWiFi in airplane mode! I have tested this already on a previous trip.
One way would be to select a network manually, or a network that I know it won't connect. However, if I turn on and off airplane mode (to take a flight), the phone will connect to the latest network it connected successfully to.
So my strategy is to connect manually to my home network at home, hoping the phone doesn't magically connect to a network. That's why, I'd like to really make sure that the phone can't connect to any mobile network, just to be sure it won't connect to a network while roaming. But only on the primary SIM. For the other SIM I do want to get connected.
For those wondering, my carrier is T-Mobile NL.
Try messing up the apn details on your sim when abroad. That will prevent connection
The issue is that messing with apn won't prevent the phone to register to a roaming network. That alone will tell my carrier where I am and charge roaming fees accordingly...
@jasalta387 Interesting problem for sure. Can you forward your calls to the secondary (travel) sim and use WhatsApp or Signal to call on wifi? Or leave an auto message giving your foreign number. Any time you connect to the primary network you will be charged, no two ways about it on an Android device. I do believe the iPhone has that capability however. Even if you receive a text on the primary you will trigger a roaming charge. Perhaps the only way to avoid that is turning off the sim entirely while traveling. See if they have an inexpensive international plan?
Indeed, iPhone can easily be disconnected from a cellular network by selecting one that doesn't register. That setting sticks even while cycling through airplane mode or a device reboot. On Pixel this is not the case. Pixel will register again, hence my issue.
I know I could rely on 3rd party apps or services or call forwarding. Problem is that I then need to redirect all people who could reach me to them somehow, while using wifi calling is just fine. Even SMS come and go through it. I just need to not make my carrier aware I'm overseas. Hence my question.
I could use a second device that provides me data and keep my phone all the time in airplane mode. This needs that I carry the two devices all the time with the logistics of charging two phones and all of that. I just want to do it all with my Pixel.
I was thinking one thing: I need to go to the US. Is 3G dead there for good? Because then I could tell my Pixel to use 3G and not allow 2G. That'd keep it away from any accidental network registration upon landing.
jasalta387 said:
Indeed, iPhone can easily be disconnected from a cellular network by selecting one that doesn't register. That setting sticks even while cycling through airplane mode or a device reboot. On Pixel this is not the case. Pixel will register again, hence my issue.
I know I could rely on 3rd party apps or services or call forwarding. Problem is that I then need to redirect all people who could reach me to them somehow, while using wifi calling is just fine. Even SMS come and go through it. I just need to not make my carrier aware I'm overseas. Hence my question.
I could use a second device that provides me data and keep my phone all the time in airplane mode. This needs that I carry the two devices all the time with the logistics of charging two phones and all of that. I just want to do it all with my Pixel.
I was thinking one thing: I need to go to the US. Is 3G dead there for good? Because then I could tell my Pixel to use 3G and not allow 2G. That'd keep it away from any accidental network registration upon landing.
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I'm intrigued by this and would love to find a solution for you. Oh yeah, 3G is dead across the US from all reports. So I'm trying to parse this scenario, let's see if I get this right. You want to have phone calls come into your primary phone line (Sim 1) but no network connectivity for data, right so far. Also you want SMS to the primary while roaming. The problem is that even if you don't get a phone call or text the connection to the network alone will trigger a billing instance, right so far again?
My daughter has an iPhone and turns off data on the sim but can get phone calls and text. As soon as she does though there is a daily billing charge of $10 because she's outside the US. I also think she can connect to wifi and make calls and text without a carrier network. But I'm not sure about. But that aside, how would you like it to work? Would you like it to connect to the network but not get charged unless you get a call or SMS? Because once a call comes in you're roaming charges will ensue. In airplane mode and strictly wifi there should be no charges but you say they bill you anyway right? Are you sure you didn't get a text or something to trigger the charge? I hope I'm reading this right.
My carrier bills calls and SMS based on the country of the latest connected cellular network. So if I don't connect to any network while I'm abroad my carrier will think I never left the country.
I don't want neither data nor calls/SMS on my primary SIM using cellular while abroad. I can get all calls and SMS via WiFi calling on that primary SIM. To get WiFi calling when I'm abroad I will use the data connection on my secondary SIM or any WiFi network.
Because of the need to get the secondary SIM on, airplane mode doesn't help me. So I need my primary SIM to never to any cellular network while I'm abroad.
jasalta387 said:
My carrier bills calls and SMS based on the country of the latest connected cellular network. So if I don't connect to any network while I'm abroad my carrier will think I never left the country.
I don't want neither data nor calls/SMS on my primary SIM using cellular while abroad. I can get all calls and SMS via WiFi calling on that primary SIM. To get WiFi calling when I'm abroad I will use the data connection on my secondary SIM or any WiFi network.
Because of the need to get the secondary SIM on, airplane mode doesn't help me. So I need my primary SIM to never to any cellular network while I'm abroad.
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And if you turn off the sim then even WiFi doesn't work on your primary number?
If the SIM is turned off, then you don't get WiFi calling
Try the 4636 menu
Choose the SIM you want from drop down
3 dot menu top right
Disable data connection
jasalta387 said:
If the SIM is turned off, then you don't get WiFi calling
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Is it possible to adjust the order of airplane mode / network /wifi on-off so as to not allow the sim to connect to the network but still allow wifi on the sim? So for instance, disable the sim, turn on airplane mode, turn on the sim and then enable wifi calling while in airplane mode, turn off airplane mode with data turned off on the sim. I can't believe with no data, calls, sms and only wifi the carrier will charge you roaming. That just doesn't seem right.
bobby janow said:
Is it possible to adjust the order of airplane mode / network /wifi on-off so as to not allow the sim to connect to the network but still allow wifi on the sim? So for instance, disable the sim, turn on airplane mode, turn on the sim and then enable wifi calling while in airplane mode, turn off airplane mode with data turned off on the sim. I can't believe with no data, calls, sms and only wifi the carrier will charge you roaming. That just doesn't seem right.
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@jasalta387
I don't know if you would follow this suggestion...
But in case you are interested in it, this sounds like something you could pull off automatically with something like MacroDroid or Tasker or some other automation app -- even without being rooted! But I concur, it doesn't make sense that a carrier charge roaming when there would be no data, calls, or sms but only wifi....I'm of the opinion (previously stated somewhere in the thread here) that you might've either misread the bill and/or accidentally "caught" a text or transferred a byte of data and it triggered...
Hey there, I know it sounds harsh that a carrier bills this way. It is verified and discussed in a local forum here (in Dutch) https://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/74880578#74880578
Of course, here there are a few things at play:
1- the carrier wants to have a clear way of communication and support. If you are abroad, those are the prices you pay for. That's it. You know it for sure. They don't want to have to explain how to turn on VoWIFI and explain how to make that working for every phone, or explain to you that you made a call thinking you were on VoWIFI while you weren't. Their approach is crystal clear.
2- the carrier makes some extra income this way. While travelling in the US: for every SMS sent they charge 0.51 EUR, calls placed 1.27 EUR, calls received 0.76 EUR and 2.50 EUR per MB of data. For data, they sell some passes that makes the price more reasonable. Note that unlimited plans for domestic data/calls here start at 25 EUR per month.
3- In The Netherlands (and for pretty much every country in EU) people rely quite a lot on 3rd party apps for calls and texting, especially when you are abroad. WhatsApp is the go-to service, even for domestic communication. People don't even bother using their home carrier when travelling outside of EU. They just remove (or disable) that SIM. So the high cost of roaming is usually left to business users for which companies pay or make better deals with the carriers.
One thing I didn't mention is that in NL, pretty much all carriers limit VoWIFI to Dutch IP addresses. To use VoWIFI you'd need to use a router that tunnels all IP traffic via a VPN that has an exit point in The Netherlands. That's how I conducted my test and verified that all activity using VoWIFI was billed using the same fares as if I was using a roaming cellular network.
I want to try this using a secondary SIM from a Dutch provider, which will give me the Dutch IP address. Backup Calling on my primary SIM will make that SIM to connect to VoWIFI. But to get my home fares, I really need to make sure that my primary SIM doesn't connect to any network while I'm travelling (hence my original request).