MVNO Issue (Virgin/TMob UK using Orange) - Android General

Hi Guys,
Basically my provider is Virgin Uk who is an MVNO. They use TMobiles network. TMobile has an agreement with Orange so that we can use their network when the TMob/Virgin signal is not good. Once I am on the Orange network, the network name changes to 'Virgin' from the normal 'virgin'.
Note, in the notification pull down tray where you can see the current network, when I am on my home network ('virgin'), it shows as 'no service'.
Whilst I am on the 'virgin' network (actually the TMob network), I can use data without any changes to the roaming settings. If I swap over onto the 'Virgin' network (actually the Orange network), Android tells me that I am roaming and thus I have lost data. At this stage I have to change the roaming settings to enable data.
In my CM9 rom, I have an option to enable 'National Data Roaming'. Should this option allow me to use data on the 'Virgin' network (actually the Orange network)?
This doesn't appear to be the case and I have to switch on the main 'Data Roaming' option which would then mean when travelling abroad where I am actually roaming, I would get charged for any data usage.
Does anyone have ideas on how to sort this out so I don't have to keep changing my Roaming options?
Thanks

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[REQ] Can I stop data when roaming?

Hi all,
I know this is probably a strange request and so I'll have to give a bit of background. Recently I changed my mobile provider to 3. 3 have their own telephone coverage in certain areas and if you are outside those areas you go on roaming with Telstra. The issue is 3 charges huge $$ when roaming on Telstras network for data (voice and SMS is fine).
My question is that my TP obviously knows when I'm roaming as it displays the service provider as 'Roaming'. Is there a program that will stop my data (and only data) use when I change over to the 'Roaming' service and activate again when I am in the 3 network?
Thanks for you help!
Trent
Hi, another aussie 3 user here...
I agree with the TS as this is one of the major problem we as 3mobile user face, is there any kind soul out there that could help us with this as my knowledge on PDA is limited.. Thanks for any1 who is willing to help in advance.
With the Sprint TP, I can go to
Settings>Phone>Services>Roaming
and set an option called "Data roam guard" that allows me to choose whether or not data connections will be allowed while roaming. I'm not sure if this option is available for you, but give it a try.
I myself would like to have an automated function for this. Until then I will have to manually switch to my dummy data connection.
Normally it doesn't connect on roaming.
and if it will, it asks first.
isn't this the case with you?
I have an app called NoData
Works really well and lets you enable/disable any data connections
raveenash said:
I have an app called NoData
Works really well and lets you enable/disable any data connections
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I know about the NoData. However, you still have to enable/disable data connection manually. I'd like to have it automatically disabled when I am roaming.
For example my IM client (QIP) does not ask me whether it should connect or not. So it is very easy to have an "accident" with data connection :-(
I'm another Three user in Australia, looking for something like this as well. I often use my phone while on a tram and it might switch from 3G to Roaming while I'm browsing the web. I'd like for it to warn me so I don't download heaps while roaming (I think it's $1.65 per MB or something crazy like that).
Hi, another 3 Australia user here...and yes, I've been waiting on this sort of function for years now.
Part of the problem here is that 3's "roaming" is not actual roaming in the traditional sense. Normally, the phone detects a roaming signal when on a foreign network and displays a roaming indicator (looks like a little triangle) at the top of the screen. You'll find this is the case if you ever take your phone overseas and use International Roaming. Telstra's network does not give you this signal, and hence even the few roaming aware apps we have (e.g. pocket outlook) don't detect when you're on Telstra's network and turn off their automatic schedules.
The best way I could think of to do this automatically is with an app that detects either Telstra's network ID values (the phone detects these and translates them to the text "Roaming" at the top right of today, much as it translates the real value "3Telstra" to plain old "3" - 3 and Telstra share the 2100MHz network in a joint venture, much as Vodafone and Optus share theirs...you will see the real value if ever you use a non-3 rom) or the network connection type and then runs that NoData app (I haven't seen that before...credit to the guy who posted it).
I've often though some sort of even responder app would be useful. Something like Gyrator, except that read network status instead of physical hardware status. Anyone know of anything like this?
Then you could set up something like:
* On detect EDGE/GSM switch off data connections
* On detect HSDPA/3G switch on data connections
OR
* On detect network ID of Telstra's GSM network switch off data
* On detect network ID of 3's/Telstra's 2100MHz 3G network switch on data
Look at phoneAlarm.
caeci11ius said:
Part of the problem here is that 3's "roaming" is not actual roaming in the traditional sense. Normally, the phone detects a roaming signal when on a foreign network and displays a roaming indicator (looks like a little triangle) at the top of the screen.
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My HTC TP says 'H' up the top when I'm in 3 coverage and 'E' when I'm roaming. Just near the top it says '3' when I'm in a Three area or 'Roaming' when I'm not...
Don't you have the same phone? What does yours say?
Vanstra said:
Look at phoneAlarm.
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I think that perhaps paying 15+ pounds (around AU$40) just to switch off a data connection is a bit steep...any other suggestions around?
grandinferno said:
My HTC TP says 'H' up the top when I'm in 3 coverage and 'E' when I'm roaming. Just near the top it says '3' when I'm in a Three area or 'Roaming' when I'm not...
Don't you have the same phone? What does yours say?
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My point exactly. You will not see the real roaming indicator in Australia as you never actually roam here. While three call it "roaming" when your phone is on Telstra, the way they have set it up prevents the phone from knowing this is the case so the few roaming aware programs will not be able to adjust for it.
The phone shows G/E when on Telstra as Telstra provide a GSM/EDGE network. It shows 3G/H when on Three's network as Three are providing a 3G/HSDPA network. Hence, you can work out if you're roaming by looking at this even though it's not actually a roaming indicator.
If you look at your home screen though you will see either a "3" in the top right corner of the clock or "Roaming". That's what I was talking about before. It's not a roaming indicator either; it simply shows the network name (with a translation applied from the actual network ID in this case).
thanks caeci11ius, I'm glad you could explain this is better detail then my original statement. I am presuming that this form of roaming and charge to customers is quite rare.
caeci11ius said:
I think that perhaps paying 15+ pounds (around AU$40) just to switch off a data connection is a bit steep...any other suggestions around?
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You wanted a program which can automatically switch band when roaming.
This is the only program I know which can do that.
Program to disable Data when E or G is shown on taskbar
caeci11ius said:
My point exactly. You will not see the real roaming indicator in Australia as you never actually roam here. While three call it "roaming" when your phone is on Telstra, the way they have set it up prevents the phone from knowing this is the case so the few roaming aware programs will not be able to adjust for it.
The phone shows G/E when on Telstra as Telstra provide a GSM/EDGE network. It shows 3G/H when on Three's network as Three are providing a 3G/HSDPA network. Hence, you can work out if you're roaming by looking at this even though it's not actually a roaming indicator.
If you look at your home screen though you will see either a "3" in the top right corner of the clock or "Roaming". That's what I was talking about before. It's not a roaming indicator either; it simply shows the network name (with a translation applied from the actual network ID in this case).
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This is Exactly What I need Also. I have looked everywhere? I Dont believe anyone else has come across this issue before and has written something to fix it.
Need a program to detect when the Phone is in 3 or H area (displayed at top) and disable DATA ONLY when G or E is displayed. My work around at the moment is to select HSDPA only connection but this makes the Voice Calls dropout whenever I cannot recieve Three's Network. Can anyone help. There is many people who would be in this same boat.
Wombat
Introducing WombatPhoneRoam
I just wrote a script to keep you connected to 3G or HSDPA networks only. Tryout
WombatPhoneRoam
I hope it is what your looking for
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3076932&postcount=1
Wombat

[Q][Android] fooling roaming to think its @ home?

hi i just moved networks and the company that i am using now are a virtual network operator (national roaming) so my phone thinks its alway roaming on my home network i have to turn on roaming data to use the net this is bad as i do go over the boarder to a diferant country every so often and this will drane my credit in seconds
so i am asking is there any way to make android think one network (my home network) isnt roaming but home?
running miui on a desire z
Would also like to know this, I would like to change the default carrier from ATT to my local carrier so I don't need to have data roaming enabled to use data.
no one can point me in any direction?
*BUMP*

[Q] Dual SIM phone roaming / not roaming question

Hi
I have a Zopo ZP950+ with Etotalk ROM, from China, it is a 5.7inch Phablet running stock JB, with Quad Core and DUAL SIM.
http://www.etotalk.com/zopo-zp950-16g_p3854.html
I am in UK, with UK SIM installed (T-Mobile), so at moment not roaming, but phone constantly tells me I am roaming.
I want to use the full 3G/HDSPA connectivity so do not want to disable data.. Under Settings/More/Mobile Networks, there are no options for roaming settings to change, though there is a "data connection - off" option, but I don't want to turn data off, and the roaming warnings are intrusive when sending texts or making calls.
If I can''t "fix" the fact that Roaming indicator is constantly on, even though phone is not roaming, can I hide the warnings every time I make a call or send a text?
Any 3rd party apps out there to help?
Thanks
While I wait for an answer, I will add this: I just tried a giffgaff SIM using O2 network, all is fine, seems to be a problem only with T-Mobile SIM, called T-Mobile they said I needed a replacement SIM card, but this SIM is fine in 2 other un locked (though not Dual SIM) handsets.
guygamps said:
Hi
I have a Zopo ZP950+ with Etotalk ROM, from China, it is a 5.7inch Phablet running stock JB, with Quad Core and DUAL SIM.
http://www.etotalk.com/zopo-zp950-16g_p3854.html
I am in UK, with UK SIM installed (T-Mobile), so at moment not roaming, but phone constantly tells me I am roaming.
I want to use the full 3G/HDSPA connectivity so do not want to disable data.. Under Settings/More/Mobile Networks, there are no options for roaming settings to change, though there is a "data connection - off" option, but I don't want to turn data off, and the roaming warnings are intrusive when sending texts or making calls.
If I can''t "fix" the fact that Roaming indicator is constantly on, even though phone is not roaming, can I hide the warnings every time I make a call or send a text?
Any 3rd party apps out there to help?
Thanks
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more, any help would be appreciated
guygamps said:
While I wait for an answer, I will add this: I just tried a giffgaff SIM using O2 network, all is fine, seems to be a problem only with T-Mobile SIM, called T-Mobile they said I needed a replacement SIM card, but this SIM is fine in 2 other un locked (though not Dual SIM) handsets.
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Replaced SIM card doing same thing, constantly warning of roaming, only difference is signal strength bars are blue, whereas before they were orange.
guygamps said:
Replaced SIM card doing same thing, constantly warning of roaming, only difference is signal strength bars are blue, whereas before they were orange.
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Hi there I have the same issue with my Star Note II N9599 and it too reverts to Roaming and I use Orange UKeven though its now part of EE Network UK but I did find out that the handset is actually Roaming! To check this go into Dial Pad and type *hash*hash3646633hash*hash* then goto Connectivity then down CDS Information the to Radio Information then to Phone 1 and you can see if the Sim in slot 1 is truely Roaming or Not?
I have yet to find a fix for this issue but did also stumble across my Associated Network Radio Bands as follows:
GSM MODE ( SIM TRAY 1 & 2 )
EGSM900 (selected)
DCS1800 (selected)
PCS1900 (selected)
GSM850 (selected)
UMTS MODE ( SIM TRAY 1 ONLY )
WCDMA-IMT-2000 (selected)
WCDMA-PCS-1900 (greyed out)
WCDMA-DCS-1800 (greyed out)
WCDMA-AWS-1700 (greyed out)
WCDMA-CLR-850 (selected)
WCDMA-800 (selected)
WCDMA-IMT-E-2600 (greyed out)
WCDMA-GSM-900 (greyed out)
WCDMA-1800 (greyed out)
WCDMA-1700 (greyed out)
Now at best guess I take it these settings are not correct for the U.K.
If this is so then which BANDS Do I Need and how do I go about changing the greyed out ones that I cannot select to be selected as a usable Radio Band?
I have looked as best I can on Google etc but Im all new to this and not entirely sure what to look for or how to do it if possible?
I have read other sites of users being able to change the Radio Bands for other types of Handsets so I know there must be a way?
I still have the issue where I can set my phone to Register on the Orange network and it connects and gives me 3G with Data but soon after the connection decides to reset to Roaming and drops Data unless I choose to select Data Roaming?

Data roaming doesn't work

I have Mediapad X2 701 B003
The data roaming doesn't work. If I use data locally - everything works, but if I go abroad - then not. I spoke with my mobile provider - they said that my device is not supported for data roaming. If I use the same SIM on a different device - then data roaming works. This shows the problem is with my X2
If I go to Settings>More>Mobile network:
..I can't get inside that menu, nothing happens when I click on it
..my mobile operator symbol disappears for a second, and I get the following message in the notification area:
"Data roaming
You have lost data connectivity because you left your home network with data roaming turned off"
Is there any way to enable data roaming on this device?
Thank you for your help

Manual network selection broken?

I'm living in a border region where my phone frequently switches to the abroad network in cases where the signal of my domestic operator fades. So I manually select my domestic network in the settings. However, my manual selection doesn't stick and the OP7 returns to automatic network selection once it loses signal of my domestic operator. This results in frequent connections with the abroad network and excruciating costs.
Solutions I've tried:
- manual switching networks: as described above, manual network selection doesn't stick
- 3rd party apps: I found an app which warns me when I connect to an abroad network which isn't very helpful since by the time I get the warning, the connection has already been established and the costs have incurred
Does anyone have a similar problem and possibly a working solution?
turn off roaming?
I'm using an abroad (German) sim so turning off roaming is is not an option. Just wondering if it's a bug in oxygenos that my OP7 keeps ignoring my manual network settings, which would be a perfect solution if it just worked.
Same problem here OP7. Roaming in Poland atm and if set to automatic no data. If I select a provider manually, it works less than 4 minutes and then switches back and data goes away.
Same story on 8T, this is not acceptable at all!
I was so happy with this phone, but this will be my last OnePlus phone.

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