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I came across an interesting workaround today regarding the annoying refusal of Google Play Store to run when Google Play Services is not enabled. Running the following in a terminal will disable a component of Google Play Services that prevents the check when you start the Play Store:
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pm disable com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.recovery.RecoveryService
Note: I have not tested this enough to know if there are any significant drawbacks yet.
I can say that this will finally allow Google Play Services to be greenified (although other components such as Google Backup Transport seems to occasionally prevent greenification). In addition, it seems to stop all those logs from being written to /data/system/dropbox/, which I personally found to be very irritating, and found the alternative solution of setting the folder to read-only to be problematic.
Unfortunately it looks like google play services is necessary to allow you to download apps from the play store. I didn't realize it at first because the checkin service had already done its thing and I was free to use everything until it was time for the next checkin. I'll post here if I find out any way to overcome this, but it looks like Google Play Services is probably necessary for the Play Store to function.
bsimpson1 said:
Unfortunately it looks like google play services is necessary to allow you to download apps from the play store. I didn't realize it at first because the checkin service had already done its thing and I was free to use everything until it was time for the next checkin. I'll post here if I find out any way to overcome this, but it looks like Google Play Services is probably necessary for the Play Store to function.
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I tried and failed. There's no workaround. >.< Play Store needs Google Play Services in order to work properly.
sonyu said:
I tried and failed. There's no workaround. >.< Play Store needs Google Play Services in order to work properly.
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Yeah, there is absolutely no workaround.Play Services forms the core for the Google Playstore App.hence it can't function without it.
didito said:
Will try this when I get the root.
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Yea, go ahead.
...Just wanna let you guys know, there's a google thread, in which people talk/ed bout the purpose of .services. Turns out you really need that sh*t!XD
It's like a framework you simply need to have installed- just like @donniemceduns said. ^ ^
Off-topic ― now, I'm on CM11, with no Google Play installed, therefore no .services running. I simply installed an alternative market. ^ ^
didito said:
Wow.. Can you tell me what alternative market you installed?
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I tried them all — Mobogenie used to be ****ty, works fine now.
.apk link- DIRECT DOWNLOAD LINK
Has all the apps from Google Play. No sign-in required.
I didn't like it; it's okay now. Use it as my primary market
If you find a better market, make sure to share a link!
didito said:
Thanks for the link. One question though. Lets say I install a kitkat rom. Can I remove all the Play Store services and their dependencies to improve my phone's performance? I plan to do this and let Mobilegenie be my only market. If this is possible how can I remove these services for good?
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Hi Didi,
Yea, sure.
You already know this, but for all the people who didn't bother to read the thread, removing .services will result in errors, whenever you try to open a google application(Play store for instance), which requires .services.
I used a kitkat ROM before- deleted all G-apps and installed my alternative market. No errors! ^ ^
As for Mobogenie, it's my primary market on CM11. It features autoupdates, even auto-install if your device is rooted. Sweet! :good:
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Oh, sorry @didito! Didn't notice the "how can I remove these services for good" part.
Install an Uninstaller app for rooted devices( Your device must be rooted).
In-app: Navigate to SYSTEM APPS & remove google play services and google play store.
If you're not sure which app to use, try "Root App Delete".
Question... Or, an observation anyway... Sorry to bring back an old thread but I've been wondering a similar thing
On my newer device, Samsung Galaxy s5 neo, play services are needed to run the play store. *however*, on my older device, Samsung captivate glide, play services are not required to open the store.
Both using stock but rooted software from Samsung.
Why would this be that it's possible on 1 but not the other?
Unless maybe because I have already debloated my older device, maybe removing other gapps is what it would take?
I don't have a data plan and therefore wouldn't use much if any of them (maps, etc)
It just has me wondering what has changed between the 2, and maybe even if I'd be able to use and run my other devices play store app, and then use disable service to stop it from fully updating?
Hmm... I know everyone else has likely given up long ago.... But I've been curious today.
*******Resolved********
See my later comments below.
Just a topic to advise any possible UK buyers who are considering to have this phone. I've managed to install Google services with some guide in this forum . Most of apps working, of course I'm prepared for some Google framework function not work, i.e. Google assistance (voice control ), Google pay with contactless etc. But some key apps not working can rely put me off:
*Barclays UK mobile Banking app: not supported on Play Market, tried to manual install the app with APK files , tried current and various previous versions, none of them worked. So if you rely on mobile banking a lot with Barclays bank, please be alerted. I can't use web version on the phone as the mobile app needs to be supported to generate log in code.
Less urgent case that I can use browser to bear the inconvenience: IHG booking app. Tried various previous version , none worked.
HSBC Mobile Banking for UK: all working fine
HSBC Mobile Banking for Hong Kong: works but does not support Fingerprints Log In.
Appreciate any help if you have any solutions for above apps?
Strange... there has not been any reply on this topic yet ?...
> I can't use web version on the phone as the mobile app needs to be supported to generate log in code.
I'm curious about this. Do you have any more information? Which browser are you using? Did you check the box for 'Desktop site' [1]? I find that works for most things where they check the UA string.
[1] That's what it is for Chrome, but I imagine other browsers have something similar.
Are you sure this is true? I am almost certain that I'm upgrading to this phone.
I was told that all Google apps, play store and generally everything Google related is working on this device from EE. I'm also with Barclays and will need to access that app. If this isn't the case then I will have to consider a different phone.
Still no luck. When searching Barclays app in Playstore , no luck. You can go to web version Google store and try to find this app then it will show app not compatible with this device. I guess Barclays app uses Google safetynet framework which is currently baned on this device.
Hi
I have the Barclays banking app working on my Mate 30 Pro 5G along with several other without any issues. Installed the Playstore as per method and downloaded app as normal. Only thing not working is Google Pay.
Dude , the app doesn't even turn up on playstore what are you talking about ?
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Dude , the app doesn't even turn up on playstore what are you talking about ?
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Sorry, should have made myself clear. I phoned cloned my apps from my P30 pro across to the Mate 30 pro and the app was there. Logged in no problem
Okay thanks for this ,is this Clone process part of Huawei thingy or independent app?
I've tried Huawei Clone , No chance.
Barclays working fine on my device. I'm from UK and recently got the device from Ee
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Barclays working fine on my device. I'm from UK and recently got the device from Ee
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Did you just download Barclays apps from your play store? That'll be really shocking to me as Barclays app doesn't even show up in my play store.
benyamin22 said:
I've tried Huawei Clone , No chance.
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Me too, tried to clone from my mate 20 pro, didn't have Barclays app cloned
I know , I wish there was a way here to dislike people's false information. I don't know what pleasure they take by doing this
Solution found
benyamin22 said:
I know , I wish there was a way here to dislike people's false information. I don't know what pleasure they take by doing this
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-30-pro/help/shared-directory-error-fix-t4048319
Go to this link and install the shared directory apk. Then go to install Barclays app on a 3rd party resource platform such as apkmirror or somewhere similar
It's working on my phone now
Nationwide Banking App UK
Does anyone know if the Nationwide Banking App works via transfer via phone clone? If someone could try this would be great as this is a deal breaker if i get the phone
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Does anyone know if the Nationwide Banking App works via transfer via phone clone? If someone could try this would be great as this is a deal breaker if i get the phone
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Tested it can be downloaded directly from my Playstore , if you know how to install Google services on mate30pro then it'll be no problem for you to use that App
I found this link on YouTube where a user explains how to certify the Mate 30 Pro by Google in the Play Store app. I tried this method 1 month ago and although at the beginning the phrase "uncertified device" disappeared from the Play Store, days later the Play Store app showed me that "my device is not certified", so I think it does not work .
Does anyone used this method that explains this YouTube user?
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Does anyone used this method that explains this YouTube user?
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its works for some not for all
https://www.gizchina.com/2020/02/26/how-to-install-google-apps-on-huawei-phones-a-new-method/
This works!
After testing every method i found here or on youtube im very skeptical. Its very exhausting to try these methods, praying to get only Google Services and all you get are that SPAM-like Pop ups from Google about not having an cerified device.
I bought my Mate 30 pro on the 2nd of March.
Build 10.0.0.193 and LIO L29. Kernel is 4.14.116.
Maybe its because im german
Well, does anyone tested this method?
CommandoALF said:
After testing every method i found here or on youtube im very skeptical. Its very exhausting to try these methods, praying to get only Google Services and all you get are that SPAM-like Pop ups from Google about not having an cerified device.
I bought my Mate 30 pro on the 2nd of March.
Build 10.0.0.193 and LIO L29. Kernel is 4.14.116.
Maybe its because im german
Well, does anyone tested this method?
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i tried and was able to install with " Not Certified" error, the trick is Install GMS through any method with DATA and Wifi turned off
install GMAIL using apk file rather than play store, after installing apk reboot and turn data on, log in gmail account using Gmail app and then open play store..... you will be able to install everything you want
You can download Gmail apk from here: https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/gmail/
What method to install GMS you use?
guyluvsgals said:
i tried and was able to install with " Not Certified" error, the trick is Install GMS through any method with DATA and Wifi turned off
install GMAIL using apk file rather than play store, after installing apk reboot and turn data on, log in gmail account using Gmail app and then open play store..... you will be able to install everything you want
You can download Gmail apk from ...
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How do you install GMS without data? What method you use? I can't install GMS with data off, whatever I do, it asks for data.
If you save files in usb type c flashdrive or download to pc and set usb transfer files. No need data, wireless.
This link https://www.google.com/android/uncertified/ where they do the certification is very misleading. When you register in theory it should be fine, but what happens is that Google reviews those registrations and decides which ones to allow. So it doesn't matter if you added your play store ID and clicked Register. I got this information from Google support, because I was asking them quite some times to explain why this service for certification does not work and what is its purpose. They told me that they review those requests in order to allow the certification. They could at least give some feedback on their system showing the registrations status - pending, rejected, successful.
I guess they don't care how many paying customers they will lose when they reject the phones and remove the possibility of even adding them manually.
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This link https://www.google.com/android/uncertified/ where they do the certification is very misleading. When you register in theory it should be fine, but what happens is that Google reviews those registrations and decides which ones to allow. So it doesn't matter if you added your play store ID and clicked Register. I got this information from Google support, because I was asking them quite some times to explain why this service for certification does not work and what is its purpose. They told me that they review those requests in order to allow the certification. They could at least give some feedback on their system showing the registrations status - pending, rejected, successful.
I guess they don't care how many paying customers they will lose when they reject the phones and remove the possibility of even adding them manually.
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They only started doing these reviews recently. My Mate 30 pro is running GMS without any problem except for the google pay and netflix stuff not working. I had GMS installed on my Mate 30 pro early January...
cfds said:
They only started doing these reviews recently. My Mate 30 pro is running GMS without any problem except for the google pay and netflix stuff not working. I had GMS installed on my Mate 30 pro early January...
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Lucky guy then!
well, everything works on my mate 30 pro. coo
I just got my 7 pro. I'm trying to download my paid apps but I'm not able to. If I try to buy the app again to see if that work. Prompt says I already own the app. Is this a known bug? Is there a workaround? I have a lot of paid apps
You didn't say what exactly happens when you click install. My first thought would be to remove and add my G account, maybe clear the data of Play Store. Then I'd do a simple Google search if that didn't work.
Morning Huawei users!!
I've been using a Huawei P40 Pro for just over two weeks, Been loving the device & I have found a little golden nugget of an app! Its called Petal Search : Find Apps So I had been using App Gallery, APK pure & Aptoid however I have managed to find a new app which basically hubs all of the apps into this one platform and allows downloads via this app without any real redirection for it, its also ad free. So from a set up/new user point of view this is definitely a key app , I would say its a must have! Especially as you don't need to go trawling the whole of the internet for links for up-to-date apps. :good:
Having used it now for the last couple of days and I've made the decision to remove both APK Pure and Aptoid, The Petal Search app is downloadable from Huawei App Gallery and that's it! You can even add it as a search bar widget on a home screen!
Setting it up is as straight forward as can be, Huawei App Gallery , Search for Petal Search, Install. Then once you're installed you are ready start searching.
Have you had any experience with Petal Search?
EAT.SLEEP.TECH.REPEAT
Really god Application
Hi,
I have actually been using this app and have to say it has one major benefit over More Apps. Its reach is very extensive. More Apps focused on most used apps and was a little limited. But Petal search allows for a bigger array of apps due to it pulling from major app platforms. 100% Recommend it
How have you found its overall functionality?
Petal Search is not available in some countries .. had to switch to United Kingdom
Edit ... just installed .. why is this actually any good? most apps just link to apkpure anyway .. might as well just use apkpure
now uninstalled.
linux2525 said:
Petal Search is not available in some countries .. had to switch to United Kingdom
Edit ... just installed .. why is this actually any good? most apps just link to apkpure anyway .. might as well just use apkpure
now uninstalled.
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Same thoughts here, Probably an employee made the opening post to promote something.
So far Aurora + ApkPure is the best combination for me.
linux2525 said:
Petal Search is not available in some countries .. had to switch to United Kingdom
Edit ... just installed .. why is this actually any good? most apps just link to apkpure anyway .. might as well just use apkpure
now uninstalled.
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I live in Wales so I have only been able to check my UK device, I found apk pure and other apps messy in the sense of chopping and changing between apps
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messy in the sense of chopping and changing between apps
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I dont understand .. surely aurora or apkpure is easier than a third party directing (like petal) linking you back to apkpure .. apkpure is not much different to the google play store ... install app, wait for updates, install updates.
linux2525 said:
I dont understand .. surely aurora or apkpure is easier than a third party directing (like petal) linking you back to apkpure .. apkpure is not much different to the google play store ... install app, wait for updates, install updates.
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I get where you are coming from. Personally i like Petal as it draws from multiple app stores giving larger reach. I think it comes down to personal preference, but still a cool app.
JazonX said:
Same thoughts here, Probably an employee made the opening post to promote something.
So far Aurora + ApkPure is the best combination for me.
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I wish! would deffo have saved me money on buying the device! Like everyone else here im just a tech fan mate
JazonX said:
Same thoughts here, Probably an employee made the opening post to promote something.
So far Aurora + ApkPure is the best combination for me.
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Hi mate - do u use a P40 phone at the moment?
Has Aurora and APK Pure got everything you need? Need to look at Petal to see if itll make life easier or harder!
Aside from the obvious such as Gmail, certain apps from my Mate 20 Pro won't clone over (slightly weird as they did the first time I copied over but after resetting and cloning again, they won't).
I can't find them using any of the appstores either. Would my best bet be to Google the app names and apk and download them? I guess the limitation of this would be that they may not be that recent and I'd have to do periodic manual searches for new updates?
Tmel14 said:
1. Would my best bet be to Google the app names and apk and download them?
2. I guess the limitation of this would be that they may not be that recent and I'd have to do periodic manual searches for new updates?
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1. you mean google for the apk of the following appstores ... aurora, apkpure, aptoide, amazon appstore, f-droid ... install of these apk and enjoy your new google play store .. they are all pretty much the same.
2. install updates as per your new replacement 'google play store' .. just use apkpure, aurora, aptoide, amazon appstore, f-droid ... I have them all installed and update my apps using a different appstore everyday just for fun.
go to update, select apps, hit update, install .. same as the google play store.
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1. you mean google for the apk of the following appstores ... aurora, apkpure, aptoide, amazon appstore, f-droid ... install of these apk and enjoy your new google play store .. they are all pretty much the same.
2. install updates as per your new replacement 'google play store' .. just use apkpure, aurora, aptoide, amazon appstore, f-droid ... I have them all installed and update my apps using a different appstore everyday just for fun.
go to update, select apps, hit update, install .. same as the google play store.
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Sorry, I was typing that on my phone whilst trying to walk the dog and think it got a bit muddled! I meant for apps that don't clone over and then cannot be found in those appstores? Would I then search for that app's apk in my browser and try and install it that way? Is that safe?
Weirdly, there were some apps that cloned over absolutely fine from my Mate Pro 20 first time and then I reset my P40 Pro and did it again and suddenly a bunch of apps wouldn't clone over... could this be to do with the fact that first time I just cloned over everything whereas second time, I only cloned over some specific settings as opposed to all?
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I meant for apps that don't clone over and then cannot be found in those appstores? Would I then search for that app's apk in my browser and try and install it that way? Is that safe?
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interesting .. maybe because they are paid apps perhaps, then they are not available on the appstores?
what apps?
you wont be likely to find an apk if it is a paid app ... but if you can find an apk for a paid app, then i guess it will be a hacked high risk option from a dodgy website.
seems like phone-clone trouble shooting & testing is your best option .. or a GMS install.
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interesting .. maybe because they are paid apps perhaps, then they are not available on the appstores?
what apps?
you wont be likely to find an apk if it is a paid app ... but if you can find an apk for a paid app, then i guess it will be a hacked high risk option from a dodgy website.
seems like phone-clone trouble shooting & testing is your best option .. or a GMS install.
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I've just tried again but there are still a range of apps that won't copy over but it's weird as they did the first time I tried - they are not paid apps either. Some of them are betting apps and others are just general apps such as Tripadvisor, Uber, Citymapper...
Message is 'new phone cannot import this data'
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I've just tried again but there are still a range of apps that won't copy over but it's weird as they did the first time I tried - they are not paid apps either. Some of them are betting apps and others are just general apps such as Tripadvisor, Uber, Citymapper...
Message is 'new phone cannot import this data'
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Tripadvisor is on apkpure appstore, aurora appstore, etc .. why do you need to phone-clone?
linux2525 said:
Tripadvisor is on apkpure appstore, aurora appstore, etc .. why do you need to phone-clone?
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That was more just an example as not all of those apps are available on those stores. I'm wondering if it has anything to do with location services as that appears to be a common denominator for a lot of those apps.
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That was more just an example as not all of those apps are available on those stores. I'm wondering if it has anything to do with location services as that appears to be a common denominator for a lot of those apps.
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I don't know the answer but all your x3 examples are on the apkpure appstore .. so who cares about the phone-clone? is it better on an appstore, so you can update easily.
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Aside from the obvious such as Gmail, certain apps from my Mate 20 Pro won't clone over (slightly weird as they did the first time I copied over but after resetting and cloning again, they won't).
I can't find them using any of the appstores either. Would my best bet be to Google the app names and apk and download them? I guess the limitation of this would be that they may not be that recent and I'd have to do periodic manual searches for new updates?
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If you go on app gallery and download the petal app, ive just searched 'google' and theres a fair few on there that'll do it, diolch.
Thanks, it appears to be the betting apps (e.g. SkyBet that are a bit harder to find, or when found, don't work). I'm still confused as to why lots of the apps transferred over fine last time but won't now.
Going to reset the phone, install Micro-G, clone over my apps and see how I get on with the phone and notifications over the next couple of days and then decide whether I feel I need GMS in order to be able to enjoy the phone.
One thing I will say out of the box is that the battery does not seem as immense as my Mate Pro 20's was when I first bought that... although I suppose cloning everything over is probably quite heavy duty work.
ChrisHtube said:
I get where you are coming from. Personally i like Petal as it draws from multiple app stores giving larger reach. I think it comes down to personal preference, but still a cool app.
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That's the point I was trying to get to, why have loads of different apps when you can have 1 hubbed app.