[Review] Schnail Titan Series with Built-in Kickstand - Google Pixel 4 XL Accessories

This review is of the Schnail Titan Series with Built-in Kickstand in Black for the Google Pixel 4 XL.
This case is almost exactly like the Schnail Savior Series with the addition of the kickstand. Having the kickstand made my holiday travels so much easier since I was able to stand the phone up hands free while watching movies. I also find that I use the kickstand while at my desk at work so that I can see texts and alerts at a glance instead of having to constantly pick up my phone. I love the fact that this case has a metal frame, and a nice and deep lip surrounding the phone. Before I switched to using the Schnail cases, I was using Spigen case as I have used them for the last few phones I have owned, but I was noticing that on this phone I kept chipping/cracking the tempered glass overlays that I use to protect my screen. Ever since I switched to this Schnail case, I haven't had that issue once, no matter how many times I have dropped this.
If you are looking for a very durable case that is up to the daily abuse that you might put your phone through, and also want a kickstand, then this is a case I can whole-heartedly recommend.

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Epic 4g case.!!!

what is the best epic 4g case? post yours...
I bought the Black Samsung one from the Sprint store for $19.99. It works great and does what I want.
Yeah, I know. I'm boring
TheCraigJ said:
I bought the Black Samsung one from the Sprint store for $19.99. It works great and does what I want.
Yeah, I know. I'm boring
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haha the sprint cases are fin & your not boring..
I'm using the Seidio Innocase Surface case/holster combo. Nice tactile feel on the case, and the secure spring-clip holster does really well, especially with my clumsy arse...
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Definition of the "best" case would be different for every person because it depends on personal preferences, how you use your phone, and how you carry it. Personally, I like the feeling of a naked phone and with my Touch Pro 2 I mostly used Forte leather case (although I tried Seidio Surface for a short period). The advantage of a leather pouch is that you don't have any permanent thickness added to your phone, but disadvantages are that you need to take the phone out of the case to see the screen and you can still drop the phone while out of the case - which is exactly what happened to me a few times. Now when I got Epic, it is thinner then TP2 so I wanted to get a snap-on case for it. Here is my mini-review of a few cases I tried:
1) Seidio Active - it is the case that (among other snap on cases) would definitely provide the best protection if the phone is dropped, it looks good, and made well. The soft gel provides a nice cushion and the plastic skeleton strategically positions hard coverage over areas that could be most impacted during the fall. It seems that the recently found Fishbone case on Amazon is very similar in the design so I would expect it to provide the same protection. Unfortunately, Seidio Active was a bit too thick to my liking and since I usualy take good care of my phones, I didn't feel that the extra protection would justify the added thickness for my needs.
2) Seidio Surface - this is probably the thinnest snap on case you can get. I really like the fact that it adds very little to the overall size of the phone and I thought that it would be the perfect case for me when I bought it and put it on. However, maybe the fact that it is so thin contributed to the fact that it feels a bit flimsy when on the phone. There is a tiny bit of play on both the top and bottom parts (when you squeeze them with your fingers on the sides) and sometimes when you push power button the phone tends to slide open a bit based on how I hold it in my hand. The case seems to fit like a glove but it is not as tight as I would like it to be and it is VERY easy to remove the top part with almost no effort whatsoever. Some may consider it a plus, but I consider it a minus because I am pretty sure that if the phone is dropped, the top part will most likely fall off after the first bump leaving the top unprotected (this actually did happen when I used Seidio Surface case on my Touch Pro 2 and dropped from about 3 feet onto hardwood floor).
3) Sprint Case with rubber back - to me this turned out to be the "best" case, at least for now. In terms of added thickness it is somewhere in between Seidio Active and Surface cases. It fits very snug and tight. I like the rubber backing a lot, it is not slippery, feels very nice in hand, and looks good (at least in black). Some people mentioned that the rubber has a tendency to peel off - I've had this case for a month now and it looks like new and I have no peeling issues; but even if I do, I am sure that a carefully placed drop of crazy glue will take care of this issue permanently. I have removed the case several times and I don't see any scratches left on the phone as was posted in one thread. The only drawback may be that the case is a bit harder to remove then Seidio, but to me it is not an issue and means that it will stay on during the fall. I rarely remove the top part, but I am a heavy phone user so I swap extra battery often and don't have any issues removing the bottom part after getting used to it. There were some reports of snaps breaking off - I have not experience that at all and I hope I won't since this is a perfect case for me at this point.
In terms of price - all three cases are around $20 bucks so price is not a factor. All three cases do not interfere with the sliding mechanism and make the phone feel a bit tighter with less screen play and no more squeaking from the battery door. I also tried one of those invisible shield things which is basically a screen protector over the entire phone. Two issues I found with those: a) no matter what brand you get, they will eventually start peeling and will attract dirt on the edges looking like crap after a while; b) although they provide scratch protection, they won't do much if the phone is dropped.
Hope you'll find your best case.
Cheers.
My sprint case has all the tab breaking off after about a month and a half of use. YMMV.
Geekybiker said:
My sprint case has all the tab breaking off after about a month and a half of use. YMMV.
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I wonder if this has to do with how different people remove/put it on. I usualy pick the two corner clips on the charger side with my nail and it removes pretty easily after that (just slide it off). When I put it back I do it in reverse order - I slide the bottom two clips on first and then snap the top ones on. So far it's been working well for me.
I'm using a black Seidio Innocase (regular not active) with the spring clip holster and I love it. I originally had the body glove case and it was just too big.. felt like I was carrying a brick in my pocket. The Innocase doesn't add much bulk and gives a bit of protection from random bumps and scratches. Has a pleasant lip around the screen too so laying the epic flat on its face keeps the screen from contacting a surface.
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My experience with case durability is completely different from gorby911's, so it's all YMMV. My Sprint case completely fell apart in 1.5 months of use, what with the clips breaking off, and 2 corners of the rubber backing peeling away. Even after Gorilla-gluing one of the corners, it peeled off again within a week! Just got a Seidio Surface and it fits very snugly and no play.
The downside of the Surface is that its rubberized texture is actually quite slippery, vs. the grippy texture on the Sprint case (especially with its rubber backing). It slightly twists and slips around in my hand that supports it while I'm swiping around with my other hand. But it's got a much thinner profile with what I feel appears to be the same amount of protection.
I hope it lasts more than 1.5 months long.
So the sedio active is the slimmest case? May have to check that out, thanks for the info.
ranchosteve said:
So the sedio active is the slimmest case? May have to check that out, thanks for the info.
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Seidio innocase should be the thinnest.
I've been using the BodyGlove that has a the smoked chrome. Stylish and strong. Dropped it a few times and everything's still fine. Sprint Direct/Indirect stores have them available.
gorby911 said:
I wonder if this has to do with how different people remove/put it on. I usualy pick the two corner clips on the charger side with my nail and it removes pretty easily after that (just slide it off). When I put it back I do it in reverse order - I slide the bottom two clips on first and then snap the top ones on. So far it's been working well for me.
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I have both the Innocase Surface and the black Sprint case and I too have had no problems with my Sprint case - I take off the back of the case exactly as you have described. Not a single scratch on my phone yet (knock on wood). I prefer the Sprint case over the Innocase as it seems to offer better protection.
For those who are curious, the black Sprint case fits in the Seidio Innocase Holster (the one designed for the Innocase Surface at least). I bought the $40 Innocase/holster combo at Best Buy, but am using the holster with my Sprint case.
I'm using this one. Got it off fleabay for $8.99. Really nice OEM leather case that fits great. I can't stand a phone in my pocket so I have mine on my belt.

Anyone seen this case?

Doesnt look too bad for the price. Kinda reminds me of the Commuter.
http://cgi.ebay.com/BLACK-IMPACT-PH...ccessories&hash=item3a663f1f8f#ht_1688wt_1139
Looks ugly tbh...
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That's way thicker than commuter case
sent from my inspire 4G
Hmm.. I don't think I really like that one.
I'm quite happy with the case/holster I picked up:http://www.amazon.com/Seidio-SURFACE-Holster-Inspire-Desire/dp/B004O0TGSE/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1307369845&sr=8-9
Yes, it is either the Otterbox or a knock-off of it. I have the Otterbox Inspire 4G w/clip and I love it. I did my homework on cases for this phone and was impressed by all the rave reviews for the Otterbox. When it arrived I was in for a shock. But after the first day of getting used to it I was definitely impressed. Yes it is a little bulky and increases the total weight of the phone. But it is extremely effective at protecting your investment from drops, dings, scratches, etc... and very comfortable in your hand. Instead of a protective screen that needs to be peeled off and applied it comes with a front and back shell that the phone rests inside of and they snap together around the phone. Then the rubber covering fits like a glove around the shell. At first glance I thought there was no way this firm plastic face plate would be contact sensitive enough, as far as pinch & press or typing text, but it never fails to be responsive to the slightest touch. Amazing concept. I've had it for 7 weeks now and my phone looks as new as the day I bought it. I’ve used wireless Bluetooth for years (Sony Ericsson HBH-DS980) to talk on the phone all the time, or listen to music throughout the day. I almost never have the phone up to my ear, so the weight or bulk of a phone has never been an issue for me. You can get it with or without the belt clip attachment. I’ve been in the habit for years of wearing my phone hanging off of my pants pocket or my belt. So I opted for the clip version. The phone snaps into the clip securely either face-inward or face-out. It has never fallen out of the clip. I wear mine face-in to prevent scratches in case I bump up against my desk or something. Rarely do I ever need to strip the phone naked, even when I am at home. I paid $33 for mine, but could have gotten it for less had I more time to comparison shop before the phone was to arrive. But if the item you are looking at doesn't say Otterbox I can't say what you might get. Hope this helps, and good luck with whatever you decide to use.

Case Review: Incipio Feather Case

Hey guys,
Just bought the Incipio Feather case and wanted to share my thoughts in case some people were thinking about buying.
The case is definitely very light weight and pretty thin (Incipio states that it is less than 1 mm thin). It's an "ultra light, ultra strong polymer" hard case that is smooth to the touch while having a slightly rubbery feel to it. The case itself has very clean edges with no trace of any manufacturing defects. There are cutouts for the power and volume buttons, hdmi port (it's covered in the pictures on their site, but there is indeed a cutout for this), usb port, camera, microphone, headphone jack, and speakerphone. With the exception of the battery, everything is easily accessible through these cutouts.
As for protection, this is where I've been disappointed. First off, the side of the case does not rise above the side of the phone, so when you put the phone face down, the screen will be touching the surface (they provide a screen protector, but I don't think that's enough). Secondly, the case does not completely wrap around the phone, so both the top and, more importantly, the bottom of the phone are exposed. The bottom is important because on a straight drop, the pointed part of the phone will take all of the impact because it protrudes beyond the corner parts of the case. The top isn't as bad because it's flatter, so the corner portions of the case will ideally take the impact. Granted, you aren't purchasing a "feather" or "barely there" case for its protective qualities, but I think that had Incipio manufactured the case to fully wrap around the phone, both the protection and aesthetics of the case would have been enhanced.
In regards to the aesthetics, I purchased the case to avoid the bulkiness of other cases so that I could enjoy the look of the phone. However, the cutouts and the fact that the case doesn't fully wrap around the phone cause the Feather case to "break" the smooth lines of the phone. I would definitely prefer the look of a case that fully wraps around the phone.
Overall, I would not purchase this case again. At $25, even with the screen protector and microfiber cloth, I think that a case like the Androidified case that I previously reviewed provides better value with more protection. With the TPU case, my phone experienced no damage after I accidentally dropped the phone while getting out of a car. I can't say that the Feather case would provide the same sort of protection.
Thanks for the review, this was my favorite case when I had my Atrix. I noticed it on the site the day it went up but did not buy it because an employee confirmed over live chat that there was no hdmi cutout. Now that I know it is there I am placing an order now. I just bought the otterbox and I like it but its just too much for me.
This is almost the same exact case as this:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/accessory?action=accessoryDetails&accessoryId=47557
But yours is probably a tiny bit thinner. And this one has a pull out stand which is awesome. They tried to sell this hardcore when i bought the phone, and I got it then.
Syn Ack said:
This is almost the same exact case as this:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/accessory?action=accessoryDetails&accessoryId=47557
But yours is probably a tiny bit thinner. And this one has a pull out stand which is awesome. They tried to sell this hardcore when i bought the phone, and I got it then.
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The Incipio also doesn't have those rubber ridges. I had one of these cases on my Thunderbolt and I hated it because I keep my phone in my pocket. Went with a Case-Mate Barely There case which seems to be similar to the Incipio.
It reminds me of an ultra light 1 piece Seidio innocase. It has a similar feel but its lighter and thinner.
After using this case for a few days I have to agree. This case is not worth it at all. The feather used to be my choice but incipio did not do well with this one.
I'm really hoping case-mate jumps on it and makes a barely there case for the Charge.
http://feedback.case-mate.com/forum...867323-samsung-droid-charge-barely-there-case
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I'm really hoping case-mate jumps on it and makes a barely there case for the Charge.
http://feedback.case-mate.com/forum...867323-samsung-droid-charge-barely-there-case
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Yeah same here. I went back to my Otterbox case but I just ordered the Trident Aegis today. I would rather have a thin light case but this feather is just plain terrible.
Why you going with Trident Aegis..instead of just using the Otterbox?
Just curious on your thoughts on the Otterbox..did you get the Trident? How is it?
The Otterbox is a good case but I am not too sold on having the buttons on the bottom covered. The Trident case shipped today and I will post pics and a review of the Aegis when it comes.

Poetic Revolution S4 case

http://www.amazon.com/Poetic-REVOLU..._20?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1369583887&sr=1-20
Anyone grab this one yet? Curious how well it fits, and how well it works with the glass screen protectors. Looks very durable, and I know that their tablet versions are highly respected.
I got the poetic atmosphere from amazon for 6.95 (it's now 8.95) and I love it.
Fits great and I love that that you can still see the back of the phone somewhat. Although it says clear it's really more smokey and best of all it's light and keeps the phone thin
bkrickles said:
I got the poetic atmosphere from amazon for 6.95 (it's now 8.95) and I love it.
Fits great and I love that that you can still see the back of the phone somewhat. Although it says clear it's really more smokey and best of all it's light and keeps the phone thin
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Appreciate the reply, but that case is a very different animal compared to the Revolution.
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http://www.amazon.com/Poetic-REVOLU..._20?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1369583887&sr=1-20
Anyone grab this one yet? Curious how well it fits, and how well it works with the glass screen protectors. Looks very durable, and I know that their tablet versions are highly respected.
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Probably late to the party, but here is my Amazon review:
3/5 Stars -
After spending approximately 2 weeks searching and deliberating for a Galaxy S4 case, I settled on purchasing the Poetic Revolution. I was drawn to the Poetic Revolution because it combines a sturdy outer shell with a built-in screen protector/cover. This is a rugged case which will no doubt keep your expensive piece of technology safe from minor accidents, moisture, tumbles and scratches.
I also have to admit that I like Poetic's brand logo; maybe I've been watching too much Game of Thrones.
Being under $20 at the time of purchase made this buy a bargain, compared to similarly designed S4 cases.
It's important to note that, while this case is a value, it's not perfect.
1. It's difficult to keep clean. the TPU/rubberized plastic body is something of a lint magnet. Depending on the surface or pocket your device is in, it picks up white flecks very easily and can be a little challenging to clean with just a simple finger wipe. Likewise, the screen cover (not being directly attached to the phone's screen) has a tendency to capture dust underneath it. The plastic below my home button has become a minor haven of dust.
2. The belt clip is almost useless. Part of my initial draw to this case was I was looking for something with a kickstand, and thought this might be a viable alternative for something portable. The reality is the included belt clip is unwieldy to use when attached to an actual belt or pocket, and the attachment mechanism (using tension to clip to the top and bottom of the phone), seems very prone to breakage over time. Likewise, to actual utilize the belt clip as a kick stand, you have to lug it around. Personally, I prefer my device sans kickstand, so I haven't found myself using it.
oblivion0 said:
Probably late to the party, but here is my Amazon review:
3/5 Stars -
After spending approximately 2 weeks searching and deliberating for a Galaxy S4 case, I settled on purchasing the Poetic Revolution. I was drawn to the Poetic Revolution because it combines a sturdy outer shell with a built-in screen protector/cover. This is a rugged case which will no doubt keep your expensive piece of technology safe from minor accidents, moisture, tumbles and scratches.
I also have to admit that I like Poetic's brand logo; maybe I've been watching too much Game of Thrones.
Being under $20 at the time of purchase made this buy a bargain, compared to similarly designed S4 cases.
It's important to note that, while this case is a value, it's not perfect.
1. It's difficult to keep clean. the TPU/rubberized plastic body is something of a lint magnet. Depending on the surface or pocket your device is in, it picks up white flecks very easily and can be a little challenging to clean with just a simple finger wipe. Likewise, the screen cover (not being directly attached to the phone's screen) has a tendency to capture dust underneath it. The plastic below my home button has become a minor haven of dust.
2. The belt clip is almost useless. Part of my initial draw to this case was I was looking for something with a kickstand, and thought this might be a viable alternative for something portable. The reality is the included belt clip is unwieldy to use when attached to an actual belt or pocket, and the attachment mechanism (using tension to clip to the top and bottom of the phone), seems very prone to breakage over time. Likewise, to actual utilize the belt clip as a kick stand, you have to lug it around. Personally, I prefer my device sans kickstand, so I haven't found myself using it.
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Nope, not late at all. Enjoyed the review and it pushed my decision to avoid buying this case at this time.
it's just me... but looks like a coffin

[Q] Belt Case/Holsters - What's "in" this season? What U Playrs Be Rockin'?

Erm ... not really.
Can anyone give some advice about a belt case/holster?
I'm thinking on the lines of this type http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00OHFTPXM/ a horizontal case.
But, this don't usually last that long.
So, I was thinking about http://www.amazon.co.uk/Urvoix-Case-Cover-Samsung-Galaxy/dp/B00S6DQ37W/ a vertical canvas style.
But, I'm unsure using it with a belt and in vertical orientation would it just get in the way, sitting down, driving etc?
I'll probably be buying a case for the phone too.
Any advice please.
Thank you
I used to use belt holsters and cases but problem is this phone is so big the cases look like fanny packs Lol.
With that out of the way, I think the horizontal holders are better for when you sit down.
I'm using a Seidio CAPSA exoskeleton holster in horizontal orientation, with a UAG case. They fit perfectly together. If you search the forums someone on here has posted photos of this combination. If you rotate it to vertical it does get in the way a little when sitting down, so I use it horizontal.
http://www.seidioonline.com/samsung-galaxy-note-4-capsa-touchview-holster-p/hl4ssgt4ast.htm
DarkManX4lf said:
I used to use belt holsters and cases but problem is this phone is so big the cases look like fanny packs Lol.
With that out of the way, I think the horizontal holders are better for when you sit down.
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Kinsman-UK said:
I'm using a Seidio CAPSA exoskeleton holster in horizontal orientation, with a UAG case. They fit perfectly together. If you search the forums someone on here has posted photos of this combination. If you rotate it to vertical it does get in the way a little when sitting down, so I use it horizontal.
http://www.seidioonline.com/samsung-galaxy-note-4-capsa-touchview-holster-p/hl4ssgt4ast.htm
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Thank you both very much
I use an Otterbox Defender w/holster & don't have any issues sitting down w/ the phone in the landscape/horizon mode. I do take the phone off my belt in the car to use my Craig's Docks car dock/mount. I think your physique has a lot to do with the comfort of the phone when seated. I also have a horizontal nylon belt pouch I got from Amazon that fits the phone with the Defender case but I've never used it because I've had no problems with the Defender's holster. The nylon pouch would be very useful if you're in a warm climate & it's raining & you're outside a lot.
One thing I really like about the Defender holster is it allows the phone to be placed in the screen out position so I can see/use the screen when it's clipped on my belt (it's of course less protection than screen in but for me the functionality outweighs that). I do agree that the size of the N4 looks like you've got a tablet on your belt, it does look ridiculous but it is what it is.
The Defender is a high quality precision made case IMO and if you buy one online make sure you buy it either directly from Otterbox or directly from Amazon (not a third party reseller) as counterfeiting is rampant with them. Also you have to remove the included plastic screen protector & use something else for clarity & to prevent the constant dirt that accumulates through the opening for the home key w/ the installed screen protector.
I haven't used the exact same one that you listed, but I used a very similar design holster for my gs1 and that fake pleather material wore out pretty quick by the belt area. I can't believe I paid $15 for that. If you want to go vertical, I personally recommend it on the side. Would interfere if worn near the front. Out of those 2, I would say the nylon holster would last longer because of the 1000d cordura nylon, but I can't speak for the overall quality. The stitching might be shoddy and stuff could fall apart easily.
I used the supcase beetle case with holster, but the case and holster broke. The case could not take a huge impact. I wore the holster on my side horizontally and broke the belt clip getting out of the car. I am currently using a cheap otterbox defender type case with holster.
mty msi said:
I use an Otterbox Defender w/holster & don't have any issues sitting down w/ the phone in the landscape/horizon mode. I do take the phone off my belt in the car to use my Craig's Docks car dock/mount. I think your physique has a lot to do with the comfort of the phone when seated. I also have a horizontal nylon belt pouch I got from Amazon that fits the phone with the Defender case but I've never used it because I've had no problems with the Defender's holster. The nylon pouch would be very useful if you're in a warm climate & it's raining & you're outside a lot.
One thing I really like about the Defender holster is it allows the phone to be placed in the screen out position so I can see/use the screen when it's clipped on my belt (it's of course less protection than screen in but for me the functionality outweighs that). I do agree that the size of the N4 looks like you've got a tablet on your belt, it does look ridiculous but it is what it is.
The Defender is a high quality precision made case IMO and if you buy one online make sure you buy it either directly from Otterbox or directly from Amazon (not a third party reseller) as counterfeiting is rampant with them. Also you have to remove the included plastic screen protector & use something else for clarity & to prevent the constant dirt that accumulates through the opening for the home key w/ the installed screen protector.
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I haven't used the exact same one that you listed, but I used a very similar design holster for my gs1 and that fake pleather material wore out pretty quick by the belt area. I can't believe I paid $15 for that. If you want to go vertical, I personally recommend it on the side. Would interfere if worn near the front. Out of those 2, I would say the nylon holster would last longer because of the 1000d cordura nylon, but I can't speak for the overall quality. The stitching might be shoddy and stuff could fall apart easily.
I used the supcase beetle case with holster, but the case and holster broke. The case could not take a huge impact. I wore the holster on my side horizontally and broke the belt clip getting out of the car. I am currently using a cheap otterbox defender type case with holster.
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Awesomes x2 Thank you
I think we can close this one now, if needed :good:
http://www.seidioonline.com/samsung...-kickstand-combo-black-p/bd2-hr3ssgt4k-bk.htm
iv been using the seido surface for about 6-7 months now and its still working great, spring on the holster still seems as strong as brand new, and its pretty slim compared to the other case+holster combos. it provides plenty of protection, iv dropped my phone at least 10 times since november, each time onto hard surface floors from about waist high (im 5 foot 11), and each time i remove the case to see what damage i caused and surprised to see that my phone itself still it perfect cosmetic condition. no scratches or scuffs anywhere on the edges or corners. phone sits pretty snug into the clip, it has NEVER came off on its own. if something were to go wrong with this case ill definitely buy another one.
Read my thread about Seidio & buying form their online store.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/accessories/dont-want-to-buy-seidios-webstore-t3036913
I have to initiate a chargeback w/ the bank that issued the credit card I used to get a refund. Seidio refunded zero.
Seido's online store is a joke if you have a problem w/ one of their products. By far the worst experience I've ever had purchasing online.
The Surface is a decent case but completely overpriced. Only reason I got one was to turn into the Surface w/ holster which was complete garbage, both the case & the holster. Everytime I moved the phone fell off the beltclip, is was unusable. And yes, I did have the case locked to the beltclip.
For the price Seidio charges for the Surface it should have rocker switch covers at a bare minimum. You can spend a fraction of the cost of a Surface & get a far nicer case.
Best Buy sells the Surface as their Platinum series at half the price Seidio charges.
IMO Seidio = garbage.
Maxpedition
Ever since I starting using tactical pouches with my iPhone 5s, I have continued to do so with my Note 4. I use Maxpedition pouches, as they are made of 1050d ballistic nylon. They are quite excellent.|
When I'm at work, during my food vendering stuff, I use their TC-3 pouch. However, I rock their leg pouch for any other events. Since I run around with no case on my phone except for the leg pouch and the small pouch that my phone and cards slip in, I am quite pleased with the setup. Excellent durability and I can carry my expensive IEMs, wallet, phone, and a couple extras with no problem.
Thank you all for the additional post and information
After a lot of head scratching I ordered the vertical case (2nd link in my OP).
I'll use it as a starting point and try other cases once I get my Note 4 through the post.

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