Fossil Gen 5 Carlyle - watch faces don't fill up entire display - Wear OS General

Just picked up one of these watches having moved from a Moto 360 V2. So far it seems nice but when load custom watch faces using Watchmaker, I notice the watch face does not fill up the entire display. There is a band of black about 2mm thick around the face. I tried a standard Fossil watch face and it appears to be the same. Is this a display feature or have I missed some setting in the watch somewhere? It's hard to believe the watch would only display a watch face on 90% of the display.

What you were seeing around the display is the black bezel, like any phone display. There is not actually "display" in that area.

Yes, the black border around the screen is the worst thing with this Fossil. But threre are not any good competitors with full screen right now, like the Huawei watch 1, or the Moto 360 had for example.
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Yep major let down there. It is to accommodate the light sensor and the NFC aerial apparently.
1 Get rid of the light sensor, never issue it in any event.
2 The Ticwatch Pro seems able to have NFC without losing screen real estate.

palexr said:
Yep major let down there. It is to accommodate the light sensor and the NFC aerial apparently.
1 Get rid of the light sensor, never issue it in any event.
2 The Ticwatch Pro seems able to have NFC without losing screen real estate.
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My Moto 360 V2 had an area at the bottom of the screen that was the sensor I guess. But the rest of the screen was totally filled with the display. After a while I never noticed this little bump at the bottom but on the Fossil I notice the black bezel all the time since it makes the screen face smaller than even the Moto 360 V2 I was using (Watchmaker Pro watch faces).

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lchiu7 said:
My Moto 360 V2 had an area at the bottom of the screen that was the sensor I guess. But the rest of the screen was totally filled with the display. After a while I never noticed this little bump at the bottom but on the Fossil I notice the black bezel all the time since it makes the screen face smaller than even the Moto 360 V2 I was using (Watchmaker Pro watch faces).
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Yeah I love the size of my 360v2. I have the Carlyle and have a hard time see the display ( have font on large too)
I'll be looking for a new wearOS watch with a larger display, hopefully one will launch soon. Still have the fully functioning Moto 360v2, best watch ever, I've beat the crap out of that thing ever since i've had it and have had absolutely no issues, other than it being slow.

I think it's funny the original moto 360 got so much grief for the "flat tire". Years later, I would still gladly trade my thick dark border area on my Fossil Carlyle for a larger display.

palexr said:
Yep major let down there. It is to accommodate the light sensor and the NFC aerial apparently.
1 Get rid of the light sensor, never issue it in any event.
2 The Ticwatch Pro seems able to have NFC without losing screen real estate.
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electricpete1 said:
I think it's funny the original moto 360 got so much grief for the "flat tire". Years later, I would still gladly trade my thick dark border area on my Fossil Carlyle for a larger display.
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Agree completely. I use a custom watch face that is modelled on a real watch. It looks a bit small on the Fossil compared with the Moto 360V2 I replaced it with. I never minded the flat tire - got used to it.

electricpete1 said:
I think it's funny the original moto 360 got so much grief for the "flat tire". Years later, I would still gladly trade my thick dark border area on my Fossil Carlyle for a larger display.
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That grief is leaking into the year 2020, because I still use my 360 as a weekender.

At least I'm not alone - moving from a Moto360 v2 due to a sick battery and so far not liking the Fossil Gen 5 Carlyle
The screen ends up being tiny and I am having trouble seeing the time on any decent watch faces. I didn't buy it to be a digital watch, but they are about the only ones were a glance is enough to see the time...
Marine Commander on Google play is about the best analog / digital I have found, but still not that impressed.
2015 we had wireless charging, a large bright screen, 2 days battery and something that looked premium on your wrist - years later, and it seems we have gone backwards!
Even the new Moto360 Gen 3 is small and suffers the black ring issue.
I have ordered a new battery for the 360 v2 to see if I can fix it, if I can, the Fossil might just go back !
Rik

lchiu7 said:
Just picked up one of these watches having moved from a Moto 360 V2. So far it seems nice but when load custom watch faces using Watchmaker, I notice the watch face does not fill up the entire display. There is a band of black about 2mm thick around the face. I tried a standard Fossil watch face and it appears to be the same. Is this a display feature or have I missed some setting in the watch somewhere? It's hard to believe the watch would only display a watch face on 90% of the display.
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Yes it is the worst thing that has a black border around the display screen but is a display black bezel

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[Q] Does the G Flex 2 Suffer from Screen Burn?

Hey guys,
Potential LG G Flex 2(H955) owner here. Before I buy it, I heard that the G Flex 1 had some screen burn issues. The G Flex 2 has the same screen technology so I want to know to what extent it will screen burn, as compared to something like Samsung's AMOLED. I know that those display phones can get screen burn since they are on max brightness with the same image/wallpaper.
However I will be smarter with my G Flex 2 and I will need it to last at LEAST 2 years before another upgrade.
Any feedback will be appreciated, thanks!
gw3gon said:
Hey guys,
Potential LG G Flex 2(H955) owner here. Before I buy it, I heard that the G Flex 1 had some screen burn issues. The G Flex 2 has the same screen technology so I want to know to what extent it will screen burn, as compared to something like Samsung's AMOLED. I know that those display phones can get screen burn since they are on max brightness with the same image/wallpaper.
However I will be smarter with my G Flex 2 and I will need it to last at LEAST 2 years before another upgrade.
Any feedback will be appreciated, thanks!
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there are issues with some screens for example you see yellow spots with brightness 0% in grey font. With full brightness it is not very visible.
kutulu32 said:
there are issues with some screens for example you see yellow spots with brightness 0% in grey font. With full brightness it is not very visible.
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That wasn't what he's asking and I'd like to know that too.
My Note 2 screen has burned parts of it (top, bottom and a vertical yellow line in the middle) from using it for navigation. It appeared after a couple months of using it for that purpose.
Stank0 said:
That wasn't what he's asking and I'd like to know that too.
My Note 2 screen has burned parts of it (top, bottom and a vertical yellow line in the middle) from using it for navigation. It appeared after a couple months of using it for that purpose.
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Maybe its too early to spot this issue i personally have the phone less than 2 months. but from what I read about yellow spots and banding even changing the screen in service doesn't mean that you will get a perfect panel. Some people changed 5-6 times panel in order to find a good one.
kutulu32 said:
Maybe its too early to spot this issue i personally have the phone less than 2 months. but from what I read about yellow spots and banding even changing the screen in service doesn't mean that you will get a perfect panel. Some people changed 5-6 times panel in order to find a good one.
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Yeah. The problem (at least for me) is, that I couldn't find any info on this pOLED technology. I know AMOLED will burn out like nobody's business but I don't know if there is any reason this POLED would behave any different. It's the OLED part which is the culprit in the end (IMHO) but one just hope, they found some way around it (wishfulthinking).
I have a Flex 2 revision 1.0 from Italy. It has a permanent ghosting on white screen with the logo lg barely visible in the background. Also some yellowish tinting here and there. Blacks are impecable and on screen tester it shows perfect greys/blacks. I am starting to think the problem was heat. The 810 overheated the newly engaged screen and burnt a image on the glass itself . Oled are small oleophobic panels which generate heat so when it was coupled with the processor heating it created a ghost of the still image which still haunts me.
tudort said:
Oled are small oleophobic panels which generate heat so when it was coupled with the processor heating it created a ghost of the still image which still haunts me.
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Do you even know what you're saying?
OLED stands for Organic LED. Oleophobic means fat/grease resistant.

Anyone using VR Glasses with the V10?

Thinking of picking up an inexpensive VR Glass and was wondering if anyone has any recommendations? Our device is a bit heavier than most, so I'm wondering if that is an issue. Thanks in advance!
I used it in one of the Google Cardboards. Didn't attach the straps or anything. It certainly isn't too heavy, would just depend on how good the headgear is.
I compared it with my girlfriend's Note5. The Note5 looks a lot better on its face due to contrast and over saturation (Adaptive Display mode) - certainly not accurate. But the black levels really take it to a whole new level when they are the main focus (e.g. horror games). The V10 LCD screen has an obvious gray being show instead of black. But the V10 is full RGB and not pentile like the Note5, so it looks sharper/less screen door effect.
I have a cheap google cardboard. I have noticed that the magnetic switch won't work in the default position with the v10. In fact I have to move the phone halfway out of my cardboard for the magnetic case to register.
Anyone have a good Cardboard that works well with the v10?
I just ordered some VR googles from ebay (i am not allowed to post direct links, but look for Google-Cardboard-VR-Box-Virtual-Reality-3D-Glasses-for-LG-V10-G4-G3-G2-for-Sony-/181922145874), mainly going to use them for watching movies. I will post the experience with them, once they will arrive.
Cheers!
ShermCraig said:
Thinking of picking up an inexpensive VR Glass and was wondering if anyone has any recommendations? Our device is a bit heavier than most, so I'm wondering if that is an issue. Thanks in advance!
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The cardboard V1 units will not work with the V10.
You have to get either a good plastic unit sized for up to a 6" phone, or get a cardboard V2.
I have multiple V1 units that the phone does not fit in, a V2 that works well, and a Destek VR headset that works perfectly.
The destek unit does not have a button on it and you need to use a controller but it is by far the best experience.
I got the ViewMaster from Target. $30 but sometimes drops to $20.
The v10 fits nicely and the tricgger on the viewmaster works good with the v10
The ViewMaster itself is made pretty well. The front has a tinted plastic piece tjat makes it look a bit more high end like. The material for resting your face on the device is made of rubber and keeps thing comfy
rsanchez1 said:
I have a cheap google cardboard. I have noticed that the magnetic switch won't work in the default position with the v10. In fact I have to move the phone halfway out of my cardboard for the magnetic case to register.
Anyone have a good Cardboard that works well with the v10?
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I ordered one of the free Star Wars Cardboard kits Google was giving away a month or so ago with my V10 and it works great.
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i tried the Mattel one.. it was ok but i didnt like the clamp that holds the V10.. it scratches up against the glass, and there is no head strap.. so i returned it.
I also tried the Desktek VR.. It was also ok but the field of view is bad.. like looking through a window.. not immersive at all. So i returned that one also.
I have the Freefly VR on order now, which is a little more expensive but has a wide FOV and really immersive from what I have read.
I got one from Yahoo Bid (an eBay-like website by Yahoo. I guess they only have it here in Taiwan though) for ~$8. It was a bit fragile, but was fixable by staples anyway. Paired with my V10, it seems a bit pixeled, but acceptable. Also, you can catch a glimpse of the second screen if you don't put the phone in the exact place lol.
What software is everyone using for VR?
Shortly after I got the StarWars themed cardboard from verizon I tried Trinus server and Trinus VR Lite to see if I could stream VR from games (only tried with Elite Dangerous so far) on my PC. Other than still needing a head strap and padding I felt like it was promising but I just couldn't get the lens calibration quite right and the image quality seemed terrible.
A couple weeks later I saw that the dev had released a standalone VR demo game using Unity. When I tried it I actually felt like I got the settings perfect but they seemed wrong when I plugged the same lens calibration numbers into the the streaming server.
http://trinusvr.com/ to get the server software
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.loxai.trinus.test google play link to trial version. (time restricted - no ads)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.loxai.trinus.full full version.
http://trinusvr.com/survival-shooter-for-trinusvr/ standalone VR demo/game
The freefly is really nice.. best VR viewer i have tried so far.. the only thing i cannot get working is the magnet setup.. i rigged a cardboard style magnet setup on it but the V10 still isnt recognizing the magnet field.. i wonder if the compass/magnometer is working correctly..
Update: I found the sweet spot for the V10 magnet.. works great now.
Sometimes the lenses fog up if you dont have a lot of airflow also, but I definitely recommend the Freefly over the other cheaper units..
Where was the sweet spot? It worked once for me, and now I can't get it working again.
sagacis said:
Where was the sweet spot? It worked once for me, and now I can't get it working again.
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What VR viewer do you have?
For the V10 and the freefly I put the magnets inside the left eye lens.. the front lower area so the magnet is closer to the front camera area on the V10.. that is where it always picks up the magnetic field changes..
I have a nicely built one from eBay. VR BOX V.2. It reminds me of the gear vr (had it for a few months)
That said...what I tried to do with the Google cardboard app looked terrible. Was very disapointed in my v10 in VR mode.
vlgligor said:
I just ordered some VR googles from ebay (i am not allowed to post direct links, but look for Google-Cardboard-VR-Box-Virtual-Reality-3D-Glasses-for-LG-V10-G4-G3-G2-for-Sony-/181922145874), mainly going to use them for watching movies. I will post the experience with them, once they will arrive.
Cheers!
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Hi,
So I got one of these in the mail and there is no obvious way to trigger the interface. They include rubber pads to use phone buttons on the sides but......there are no buttons' on the sides of the V10. Am I missing something?
Dartin Bout said:
Hi,
So I got one of these in the mail and there is no obvious way to trigger the interface. They include rubber pads to use phone buttons on the sides but......there are no buttons' on the sides of the V10. Am I missing something?
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I'm guessing like using it to touch the screen?
Nitemare3219 said:
I used it in one of the Google Cardboards. Didn't attach the straps or anything. It certainly isn't too heavy, would just depend on how good the headgear is.
I compared it with my girlfriend's Note5. The Note5 looks a lot better on its face due to contrast and over saturation (Adaptive Display mode) - certainly not accurate. But the black levels really take it to a whole new level when they are the main focus (e.g. horror games). The V10 LCD screen has an obvious gray being show instead of black. But the V10 is full RGB and not pentile like the Note5, so it looks sharper/less screen door effect.
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I'll take sharpness over "true black" anyday, especially when the screen is 2" from my face. **** pentile.
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Abrasher said:
I have a nicely built one from eBay. VR BOX V.2. It reminds me of the gear vr (had it for a few months)
That said...what I tried to do with the Google cardboard app looked terrible. Was very disapointed in my v10 in VR mode.
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What's wrong with it? Mine looked fine.
megalosdog said:
I'll take sharpness over "true black" anyday, especially when the screen is 2" from my face. **** pentile.
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What's wrong with it? Mine looked fine.
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But screen distance is not everything. The lenses play a large role in this. which is how Oculus is making the Rift look a lot better than its predecessors - more advanced lenses. Since my last post, I went back to the Note5... and got a GearVR. With the GearVR, the pentile arrangement is only noticeable if you are looking for it, AND have a solid color where a single pixel is being used to illuminate it (e.g. pure red). The gap in the pixels becomes a little more pronounced. But trust me man, OLED is the future. I couldn't bear the LCD on the V10 any longer since I have a 4K OLED TV. OLED is the only thing I can look at now.
I use freefly VR. Awesome field of view. 120 degrees! Our phones fit in it no problem. Mine came with a small bluetooth controller which satisfied the lack of a "click" button.Also, you can use a small kitchen magnet to simulate a click if you need to. Just tap the back of the phone with the magnet and it'll work. We arent talking about a huge powerful magnet either. Just a normal refrigerator one.

How much do you I love your V10 ?

How much do you love your V10 ?
After root my v10 I really love more then before because root bring me to Manny options for Theming my V10 make feel my phone lake on others level .
What that I have installed
Xpose
Xstana (theme my status bar /nav bar)
G4tweaksbox
Screenoffanimations
LG theme Engine
hopefully here its the right threa for post this .
So what do you have installed and how do you love you v10 after root ?
I would love it more of I could root it lol waiting for root for the Verizon variant.
Love it. No issues
I traded in my Nexus 6 for the V10 the day after Christmas, don't regret it thus far, although some AOSP Roms would be nice.
KiRyah said:
I would love it more of I could root it lol waiting for root for the Verizon variant.
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Yeah Hopefully soon my friend just wait little more ..
Sippi4x4man said:
I traded in my Nexus 6 for the V10 the day after Christmas, don't regret it thus far, although some AOSP Roms would be nice.
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Yeah I wait for cm 13 as well but to be honest I like it the stock too with modifications lake I said on the post
Zack.TheDark said:
Love it. No issues
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Me too bro
Coming from G3, almost didn't go to to LG because of it. This thing is a whole different world of awesome. Things that overheated and throttled my G3 don't even warm this thing up, and best part, no data issues going from WiFi to mobile!!! Love the second screen too. Now when I'm navigating and streaming Bluetooth at the same time, I can change tracks without leaving nav app, notifications don't interrupt games/videos...Extremely happy so far!
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jekern77 said:
Coming from G3, almost didn't go to to LG because of it. This thing is a whole different world of awesome. Things that overheated and throttled my G3 don't even warm this thing up, and best part, no data issues going from WiFi to mobile!!! Love the second screen too. Now when I'm navigating and streaming Bluetooth at the same time, I can change tracks without leaving nav app, notifications don't interrupt games/videos...Extremely happy so far!
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Yeah I'm agree with you I love the second screen its one's of the things why I get this phone and I like to see my name on the top ? of the screen lol
Need to point out that realistically it is only a 5 inch screen.
With controls and second screen. You effectively have only a 5 inch screen with a whole lot of bulk. Granted the internals are great. Although it is not in any way a 5.7 inch screen. Great phone, but let down on such a massive phone with effectively no more screen area than a S4.
Not to mention. NO blinking notification and no temperature or humidity sensors. Infered is marginal at best.
sinner822 said:
Need to point out that realistically it is only a 5 inch screen.
With controls and second screen. You effectively have only a 5 inch screen with a whole lot of bulk. Granted the internals are great. Although it is not in any way a 5.7 inch screen. Great phone, but let down on such a massive phone with effectively no more screen area than a S4.
Not to mention. NO blinking notification and no temperature or humidity sensors. Infered is marginal at best.
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Umm, no, it's not a 5" screen. The main screen is 5.7" minus how much space the buttons at the bottom take up, which is like any other phone not made my Samsung.
The second screen is a completely independent 2.1" screen. Please don't spread misinformation.
And they didn't put a led light because that is what the second screen is partly for. And if you want all those sensors, get a Samsung.
Sounds like you need to do more research before you buy a $600+ smartphone only to be disappointed for you own lack of research.
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Need to point out that realistically it is only a 5 inch screen.
With controls and second screen. You effectively have only a 5 inch screen with a whole lot of bulk. Granted the internals are great. Although it is not in any way a 5.7 inch screen. Great phone, but let down on such a massive phone with effectively no more screen area than a S4.
Not to mention. NO blinking notification and no temperature or humidity sensors. Infered is marginal at best.
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All the notifications done with the banner.
sinner822 said:
Need to point out that realistically it is only a 5 inch screen.
With controls and second screen. You effectively have only a 5 inch screen with a whole lot of bulk. Granted the internals are great. Although it is not in any way a 5.7 inch screen. Great phone, but let down on such a massive phone with effectively no more screen area than a S4.
Not to mention. NO blinking notification and no temperature or humidity sensors. Infered is marginal at best.
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Actually, if you go get yourself a tape measure, the 5.7 doesn't include the second screen... And if you're really tech savvy, you can hide the navigation bar when you aren't using it... So on both of those counts, you are wrong... Also, all your notifications appear on the second screen, which to me is more convenient than a blinking light, since I don't even need to open my phone to check my notifications. And also, the infrared controls my stuff from anywhere in the living room, which works fine for me... Considering Samsung no longer has this option, it's a plus. Other than that, sorry to ruin your phone bash, have a super day.
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This phone made me love it. My G3 started getting the BSOD and honestly I'd planned switch to a Samsung S7 Edge in March, or whenever it is released. Went to the store to try to get a used G4 just to hold me off until then but they didn't have any. Walked out with the V10. Unlocked bootloader, flashed TWRP and SU and have been loving it ever since. I'm not really sure why because aside from the standard faster processor, gig more memory and slightly larger screen, it wasn't that much different from my G3 but I've really grown to like this thing. Second screen is the phone's first bullet point but it's kind of gimmicky and I don't really have a use for it, but besides that stuff just seems to work better on the V10. It doesn't have Bluetooth connection issues like my G3 did, phone doesn't heat a small room under heavy use, and I'm not clearing apps to free up 200mb more memory all day. Call quality is great, quick charge is awesome, and the 5.7" screen is really, really, really nice. A louder and clearer speaker is the only thing the G3 did better but the V10's will do. So I've warmed up to my step child and really not thinking about the S6/S7 at the moment.
sinner822 said:
Need to point out that realistically it is only a 5 inch screen.
With controls and second screen. You effectively have only a 5 inch screen with a whole lot of bulk. Granted the internals are great. Although it is not in any way a 5.7 inch screen. Great phone, but let down on such a massive phone with effectively no more screen area than a S4.
Not to mention. NO blinking notification and no temperature or humidity sensors. Infered is marginal at best.
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You do know that the screen + the second screen measure to 5.9 inches right? I have a S4 also and the screen is alot bigger on the V10 than the S4...
Sippi4x4man said:
I traded in my Nexus 6 for the V10 the day after Christmas, don't regret it thus far, although some AOSP Roms would be nice.
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I agree with you. I come from the nexus 6 and so far I love this phone but the lack of custom Rom and development is kind of ?.
Bought mine during launch week, and was disappointed it had major issues: second-screen bleed was bad, and the speaker sounded really distorted. Then a month later the wireless charging chip died.
T-Mobile replaced it with a brand new unit manufactured in late December and it is absolutely perfect. No bleed at all, speaker is crystal-clear. Loving it, especially the camera!
Started out with Lg G2 d800,loved that phone sold it and got lg g3 D850 awesome phone.. Finally decided to get the v10,its very smooth, fast, beautiful display, whenever i take pictures my friends are stunted by how beautiful and rich the photos come out. Manual controls on camera and video, dual front face camera, removable battery , sdcard support, slick and premium design over kill. This is by far the best device i have ever owned since day one 'htc touch pro2' ... Im really impressed with this phone...
I upgraded from a Nexus 6. My first experience with LG (Android wise) was with the G2 and the Flex. So going to the V10 was easy. My only caveat is the fact that I moved back to 5.1.1 when I've been on 6.0.1 for a bit. Can't wait for some decent roms to truly use this phones full potential.
I almost gave up on androind OS after two generations of Samsung Galaxy devices, Note 3 and until today Note 4. The update from Kitkat ruined the Note 4 experience completely for me, if anything left me frustrated. Ive reached an age whereby I just want something to do as it says on the box, typing on the Note 4 became a nightmare for me, tiny space bar mistyping all the time. Wifes Iphone 6plus was appealing but thought Id try another brand of Droid. Earlier today walked out of the T Mobile store with a new V10.

Moto X Pure is the best sunlight readable bootloader-unlocked phone

With 815 nits and low glare screen, the Moto X Pure is by far the most easily readable 5.5" or larger phone under direct sunlight.... which also has unlocked bootloader and can flash CM/AOSP ROM's.
Just wanted to mention that fact.
And based on history, I don't expect the upcoming Nexus 5.5" to have a brighter screen even though it's AMOLED.
Heck, even the Moto Z is far more dim.
Combined with the bright screen, SD storage, water "resistant" and nice bezel to screen ratio size, the MotoX Pure just can't be replaced for me right now.
And I really, really am itching for a new phone.
Just isn't anything on the market that compares (for my needs) right now.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Nothing out there at the moment seems worth it to upgrade.
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Same here, though I wouldn't mind if someone gifts a galaxy note 7
Same here, too - currently rocking an EU X Style.
My only complaint is how weak these screens are, and if you get even one little crack 9t renders the screen useless... My s4 was shattered all over and still functioned perfectly. I've broken this stupid screen twice, second time barely at all and screen didn't work. Luckily the first time I ordered a new screen they seller accidentally sent me 2
I agree. I bought this to use with Republic Wireless to try out their new GSM service. My old Moto X 1st Gen still works great, but I was itching for a new toy, and I'm not rich, so the Amazon Prime Day special was perfect for me. When I got it, I immediately started missing the AMOLED screens I'm used to with the Moto X 1st Gen and 2 Galaxy S4's that I have. The resolution is gorgeous, but I miss the deep blacks and popped colors. BUT....today I was using it outside, and it was by far the best phone I've used outside! And I love the GravityBox feature to slide the brightness up swiping the status bar.
True... But the cost of that brightness and outdoor visibility is it drains your battery like fruit in a juicer. High screen brightness where the display is maxed out is beautiful on this device, but if you can get 90 minutes of usage on a full charge your darn lucky.
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aakashverma0007 said:
Same here, though I wouldn't mind if someone gifts a galaxy note 7
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I like the look of the Note 7 too but less keen on the cost. Nothing really makes me want to swap my X Style. Bright screen, good speakers, good mobile reception, battery lasts me most days but can always top up with turbo charger. Might even get Android N? Mine is still stock.
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True... But the cost of that brightness and outdoor visibility is it drains your battery like fruit in a juicer. High screen brightness where the display is maxed out is beautiful on this device, but if you can get 90 minutes of usage on a full charge your darn lucky.
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At least I have the choice to set the screen that bright, even if it can only last 90 minutes.
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richteralan said:
At least I have the choice to set the screen that bright, even if it can only last 90 minutes.
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I didn't mean is a bad thing necessarily, more of a clarification.
CZ Eddie said:
Combined with the bright screen, SD storage, water "resistant" and nice bezel to screen ratio size, the MotoX Pure just can't be replaced for me right now.
Just isn't anything on the market that compares (for my needs) right now.
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Oh, and louder than average speakers so I can listen to talk radio while walking my dog in loud areas.
Agreed. I have a 6P right now and it's useless under sunlight with polarized sunglasses on.
And the stupid thing doesn't remember bluetooth loudness levels per device like my X did.
erikiksaz said:
And the stupid thing doesn't remember bluetooth loudness levels per device like my X did.
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There is an app for that.
Wish I could remember what it's called, but I do remember it worked well for me back when I needed it.
Search Play store for Bluetooth and you'll find some neat things.
Uhh. I just downgraded to a Xperia z5 compact, mainly because the headphone jack broke on this, probably because it's so darn big and using the jack in my pocket puts too much pressure on it.
I chose the z5c because it has dual speakers and almost the same chipset:
The speakers are crap compared to the X. The screen in sunlight has these weird glares as if you can see tiny wires over the screen(the digitizer?) And the 810 inside it gets really hot doing the simplest things, like redditing.
So now I use both phones. The X for reading/listening to stuff around the house, and the z5c for when I'm out.
Would u recommend the moto x over 6p. I like Android N on the 6p but the screen is dim as hell. I have a HTC 10. But I want a bigger screen. Thoughts? Thanks
I sometimes think about moving to the HTC 10! I do find the X Style a little clumsy to use one handed. On the other hand I like the bigger display. BTW, how do you find the HTC 10 display outside on a bright day?
As to getting an X Pure/Style over the Nexus then I'm sure you'll find the Moto display easier to use on bright days. Otherwise is the Style better than the Nexus 6p then I don't know for sure. If your bothered about updates then the Nexus will be better. For the money I'm sure you'll not be disappointed with the Style/Pure
mxp price -perfonmace = best ever
ı use iphone lg sony but this awsomm :fingers-crossed:
To bad when my phone rings and I pull it out of my pocket I can barely see who is calling and barely can see the red n green phone icon while in bright day light.
No custom rom.
artpena2323 said:
Would u recommend the moto x over 6p. I like Android N on the 6p but the screen is dim as hell. I have a HTC 10. But I want a bigger screen. Thoughts? Thanks
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It will depend on you really. If getting the latest and greatest Android version and security updates is a big deal, then the 6p. If you are outside our using your phone in really bright areas a lot then the MXPE is the better for that. Everything else after these considerations will really depend on what little features that each offers that you think will benefit you the most.
I'm looking to finally upgrade from my AT&T Note 3. I want SD card support, 5.7+ screen, and an unlocked bootloader. Moto X Pure seems to be the perfect phone for me.... unless someone can recommend a better phone.

Question Galaxy Watch 4 classic using palm to turn off screen?

It's not working on mine - is this feature removed on GW4?
Just checked my watch 4 LTE 44mm and it goes dark when placing Palm on it for some second's...
I guess mine has a faulty sensor. Old Gear S3 worked fine with palm turning off the screen. Not a very big deal though...
galaxys said:
Just checked my watch 4 LTE 44mm and it goes dark when placing Palm on it for some second's...
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Like, how many seconds? 15...?
LarasLTU said:
I guess mine has a faulty sensor. Old Gear S3 worked fine with palm turning off the screen. Not a very big deal though...
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You're not alone - it doesn't work on mine either. I concluded that Samsung removed it/it's not a Wear OS feature, as it wasn't in the setup tutorial, and there's no setting for it. Although I have seen others like galaxys claim that it works, I'm not convinced...
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Like, how many seconds? 15...?
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Depends if you're in a hurry or not
Works on mine, too. The obvious questions are:
A. Is your always on display setting activated?
B. If yes, does your watch face have a dimmed view?
If a is yes and b is no, then placing the palm on the watch won't cause a change even if the sensor works. I had that issue for a while with a watch maker face that didn't have a dimmed view.
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Works on mine, too. The obvious questions are:
A. Is your always on display setting activated?
B. If yes, does your watch face have a dimmed view?
If a is yes and b is no, then placing the palm on the watch won't cause a change even if the sensor works. I had that issue for a while with a watch maker face that didn't have a dimmed view.
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What if a is no and b is sorta, as auto brightness is on? *Edit*: Just checked with auto brightness off, still doesn't work. Are you sure your screen isn't just timing out as you try this?
If a is no, then b is irrelevant. If AOD is off, then the palm gesture should turn off the screen, period. The fact that the screen goes a bit darker proves that the ambient light sensor works, sure, but I'm unsure if that's the only sensor that determines whether the palm was placed on the watch. Might be multiple sensors?
Just saw your edit. I will test it.
Edit 2 after testing: my screen timeout is 15 seconds - the palm gesture is maybe 1 second. So that's not it.
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If a is no, then b is irrelevant. If AOD is off, then the palm gesture should turn off the screen, period. The fact that the screen goes a bit darker proves that the ambient light sensor works, sure, but I'm unsure if that's the only sensor that determines whether the palm was placed on the watch. Might be multiple sensors?
Just saw your edit. I will test it.
Edit 2 after testing: my screen timeout is 15 seconds - the palm gesture is maybe 1 second. So that's not it.
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Interesting. Thought maybe it might be related to using AOD, but nope, doesn't work either. Your's the regular Watch 4 or the Classic?
I use this feature a lot it works perfectly on my gw4
For me it works in both the cases aod on and off... Difference being with aod on it dims the screen and with aod off it completely blacks out the screen
It also silences the call and stops the vibration when a call is received
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Interesting. Thought maybe it might be related to using AOD, but nope, doesn't work either. Your's the regular Watch 4 or the Classic?
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Classic.
I found in manual, that it should be working: https://downloadcenter.samsung.com/...210722/lock_or_unlock_your_device_d1e772.html
Not sure if watch reset could help, also potentially could be fixed with next firmware upgrades, unless there is faulty sensor
LarasLTU said:
I found in manual, that it should be working: https://downloadcenter.samsung.com/...210722/lock_or_unlock_your_device_d1e772.html
Not sure if watch reset could help, also potentially could be fixed with next firmware upgrades, unless there is faulty sensor
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Reset didn't do anything - other than show me how poor the backup is on the watch, and force me to install SHM Mod again... I doubt it's a faulty sensor (as everything else, i.e., auto brightness, works fine) - maybe my palms are too translucent?
Works on mine when bought new and then now. In between I had issues. After buying the watch I tested everything. Then about two days after my screen protector order arrived. PLaced it on the watch and I thought all was good. Eventually this topic came up in another forum and I checked mine. It wasn't working. Whatever I did it just seems that the palm to screen off wasn't working as it should. So I did a reset, etc. Still not working. I thought, who cares? It's not really a feature I use everyday anyway but somehow for me that means there was an issue. Then as I was looking at the screen I realized there were some lifts on the perimeter of the screen protector. I removed it. Then I tested the palm to screen off. Not once did it NOT work. I let it go without a protector for a day or so and it was still working. Since then I didn't use the tempered glass protector anymore. I bought one of those film type protectors and now the palm to screen off is working.
Thanks @thephantom for the hint! Apparently it's working on mine as well, I just needed to put my palm much closer to the watch screen (in comparison to my Gear S3 where it was enough to put palm over the watch and not touch it at all), I'm pretty sure it should work for others too on GSW4, once you press your palm against the watch (touching the bezel with your palm with light pressure ) - it was just wrong expectation on my side from the other model...
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Thanks @thephantom for the hint! Apparently it's working on mine as well, I just needed to put my palm much closer to the watch screen (in comparison to my Gear S3 where it was enough to put palm over the watch and not touch it at all), I'm pretty sure it should work for others too on GSW4, once you press your palm against the watch (touching the bezel with your palm with light pressure ) - it was just wrong expectation on my side from the other model...
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Well, I'll be damned - that does work. In fact, using the ball of your thumb seems to work well, and every time.

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