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[Q] Screen ripple

Hello
I have noticed that my Moto G (1st gen) has a problem where if you touch the screen you can see a "ripple effect" in the center of the screen, it's get more noticeable as you press harder, but even if you press light touches it's still visible somehow but very little.
I have searched the forums and found people having this issue with the 2nd gen of the device: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/help/screen-question-t2947732
here is a picture of the problem some guy posted (in my device it's always presents in the center of the screen no matter where i press):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3036129&d=1417076320
Can you please check if your device has this problem too?
Make sure brightness is highest and test in while you viewing black image: http://images2.layoutsparks.com/1/230004/seductress-plain-black-page.jpg
Thanks!

CJMom said:
Hello
I have noticed that my Moto G (1st gen) has a problem where if you touch the screen you can see a "ripple effect" in the center of the screen, it's get more noticeable as you press harder, but even if you press light touches it's still visible somehow but very little.
I have searched the forums and found people having this issue with the 2nd gen of the device: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/help/screen-question-t2947732
here is a picture of the problem some guy posted (in my device it's always presents in the center of the screen no matter where i press):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3036129&d=1417076320
Can you please check if your device has this problem too?
Make sure brightness is highest and test in while you viewing black image: http://images2.layoutsparks.com/1/230004/seductress-plain-black-page.jpg
Thanks!
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Bro it is normal. LCD screen/ 1st gen/2nd gen/ bla bla.. Manufactures these days are focusing on QHD/Full HD/i dont know what HD and they have no fix for this "problem". It is very normal that you have this, so dont bother with it and dont change for a new one! I had 2 LG G2 phones same problem, I bought the G3 same ****, live with it

appileh said:
Bro it is normal. LCD screen/ 1st gen/2nd gen/ bla bla.. Manufactures these days are focusing on QHD/Full HD/i dont know what HD and they have no fix for this "problem". It is very normal that you have this, so dont bother with it and dont change for a new one! I had 2 LG G2 phones same problem, I bought the G3 same ****, live with it
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I know LCD screens have this issue, but I suppose in phones they had to deal with it somehow.
what's bothering me it's that if it's more noticeable if i press the middle of the screen, the bottom and top parts seems less affected. like something is applying pressure to the middle of the screen (the battery maybe ??) I'm also seeing the "ripple" when I'm applying pressure to the M logo at the back of the phone.
Shame that even G3 has this issue who even cares about QHD lol, 720p is more than enough even for 5.5" screens.
Thanks for helping, I would be grateful if more people can check this out.

CJMom said:
I know LCD screens have this issue, but I suppose in phones they had to deal with it somehow.
what's bothering me it's that if it's more noticeable if i press the middle of the screen, the bottom and top parts seems less affected. like something is applying pressure to the middle of the screen (the battery maybe ??) I'm also seeing the "ripple" when I'm applying pressure to the M logo at the back of the phone.
Shame that even G3 has this issue who even cares about QHD lol, 720p is more than enough even for 5.5" screens.
Thanks for helping, I would be grateful if more people can check this out.
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No bro, not the battery problem(no pressure), it is the way they made the phone.. Each LCD have his own "ripples", just take an app like linkedin en take a blue background you will see how sick the ripples are. Im also irritating a lot but really leave it dont look at the ripples

I've never had such a problem before with any touchscreen electronic ever had from resistive to capacitive touch. I did try to press really hard on the center of the screen of my Moto G and everything that happens is a slightly distortion because the glass is touching the pixels but not what you reported. What I noticed is a tiny bit reduction of the brightness every time I press the screen but is so minimal that you have to be in a pitch black room and pay a lot of attention to it. So I guess you could return the phone as defective or change the display if you're able to do that.
P.S. the pic you posted is not a total black image so when I turn the brightness all the way up I see something even if I'm not touching the screen. I tested with my own made really black pic and I have no issue whatsoever.

MeltingSnowman said:
I've never had such a problem before with any touchscreen electronic ever had from resistive to capacitive touch. I did try to press really hard on the center of the screen of my Moto G and everything that happens is a slightly distortion because the glass is touching the pixels but not what you reported. What I noticed is a tiny bit reduction of the brightness every time I press the screen but is so minimal that you have to be in a pitch black room and pay a lot of attention to it. So I guess you could return the phone as defective or change the display if you're able to do that.
P.S. the pic you posted is not a total black image so when I turn the brightness all the way up I see something even if I'm not touching the screen. I tested with my own made really black pic and I have no issue whatsoever.
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There is no way you really pressed hard and nothing happened.
If you would have pressed hard the ripples should be clearly visible, this is how LCD works and it's known. every phone with LCD I saw would ripple if pressed hard enough. My problem is that it's visible another normal usage in a dark room.
Are you sure it actually reduced the brightness? it supposed to be brighter. it will look like a white stain like in this picture: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3036130&d=1417076320. And yes the picture is not really fully black I found it on google and from my PC it looked blacked.

CJMom said:
There is no way you really pressed hard and nothing happened.
If you would have pressed hard the ripples should be clearly visible, this is how LCD works and it's known. every phone with LCD I saw would ripple if pressed hard enough. My problem is that it's visible another normal usage in a dark room.
Are you sure it actually reduced the brightness? it supposed to be brighter. it will look like a white stain like in this picture: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3036130&d=1417076320. And yes the picture is not really fully black I found it on google and from my PC it looked blacked.
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go to a phone shop and test al LCD displays, each one is **** and especially LG screens.

appileh said:
go to a phone shop and test al LCD displays, each one is **** and especially LG screens.
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But why the ripple happens in the same spot? no matter where I press it's in the same location (in the center of the screen), that's makes me wonder, because in LCD's it's supposed to ripple where you touched.
Do you have a Moto G 1st gen too and actually sees this with regular taps? it's changing based on the tap location or it's fixed?
Thanks for your help

CJMom said:
But why the ripple happens in the same spot? no matter where I press it's in the same location (in the center of the screen), that's makes me wonder, because in LCD's it's supposed to ripple where you touched.
Do you have a Moto G 1st gen too and actually sees this with regular taps? it's changing based on the tap location or it's fixed?
Thanks for your help
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Because it is sensitive there?? It is rippeling on every spot where you touch buts on some ares it is more sensitive i think(close to the layers, especially in the center of your screen).
I own a LG G3 and before 2 LG G2 's. So i know what ripple means . Check the Z3 of Sony same ****.

Annoying yellow spot on display

Hi Guys,
New to this forum. I recently sold my one plus due to the exact reason but this was at the bottom of the display. Many have said that it would disappear over time but after 6 months, the yellow band was still haunting me. Gave up because of how infuriating it was and sold it. Got this beast, loving it but I noticed straight away at the top left of the display there was a yellow spot which spreads slightly to the centre. Im not familiar with the characteristics of certain displays as I am aware of the different kinds of displays these two devices use. Just wondering, would this problem disappear over time ?? I saw this post on this particular "fix" sites, which says that it will over time given the glue dispersion from heat and what not. BUT, im just afraid (skeptic here) it would end up like my one plus. Im trying to avoid going back to the reseller as this phone was purchased from a grey importer. Any input from any of you guys would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

androFRUST said:
Hi Guys,
New to this forum. I recently sold my one plus due to the exact reason but this was at the bottom of the display. Many have said that it would disappear over time but after 6 months, the yellow band was still haunting me. Gave up because of how infuriating it was and sold it. Got this beast, loving it but I noticed straight away at the top left of the display there was a yellow spot which spreads slightly to the centre. Im not familiar with the characteristics of certain displays as I am aware of the different kinds of displays these two devices use. Just wondering, would this problem disappear over time ?? I saw this post on this particular "fix" sites, which says that it will over time given the glue dispersion from heat and what not. BUT, im just afraid (skeptic here) it would end up like my one plus. Im trying to avoid going back to the reseller as this phone was purchased from a grey importer. Any input from any of you guys would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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a lot of people have yellow spots . the spots are mostly visible in 0% brightness and grey backround. Install dead pixel detect and fix and choose gray from the menu. if the result is not good contact with lg service center to change the screen.
you mentioned also oneplus. I also had oneplus before. it had 2 issues the first one was the led light bleeding and the yellow banding. the led bleeding is only visible down due to the position of led lights of the phone and cannot be fixed. the yellow band was due to the glue that didn't properly fixed. I personally had this issue but after some months It was fixed by the use of the phone. I also let it 2-3 times under direct sunlight for 20-25 minutes.

kutulu32 said:
a lot of people have yellow spots . the spots are mostly visible in 0% brightness and grey backround. Install dead pixel detect and fix and choose gray from the menu. if the result is not good contact with lg service center to change the screen.
you mentioned also oneplus. I also had oneplus before. it had 2 issues the first one was the led light bleeding and the yellow banding. the led bleeding is only visible down due to the position of led lights of the phone and cannot be fixed. the yellow band was due to the glue that didn't properly fixed. I personally had this issue but after some months It was fixed by the use of the phone. I also let it 2-3 times under direct sunlight for 20-25 minutes.
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Just wondering, would it work if id put the Flex 2 under the sun as well? The discolouration is only noticeable, like you said, on Grey background.. wonder if this would go away over time.. thanks again!! :crying::crying:

androFRUST said:
Just wondering, would it work if id put the Flex 2 under the sun as well? The discolouration is only noticeable, like you said, on Grey background.. wonder if this would go away over time.. thanks again!! :crying::crying:
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you can try it but I don't know if the glue is the issue. on the other hand lg has a very good service maybe it can replace your screen if the problem is so obvious

kutulu32 said:
you can try it but I don't know if the glue is the issue. on the other hand lg has a very good service maybe it can replace your screen if the problem is so obvious
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hey, i managed to exchange for another one. Though there is some improvement, the yellow spots are still apparent albeit less noticeable and only in Grey background. Did your's disappear, or at least improve overtime? How is it? I have tried using a 38W UV lamp for nearly an hour and the yellow spots are still there..

androFRUST said:
hey, i managed to exchange for another one. Though there is some improvement, the yellow spots are still apparent albeit less noticeable and only in Grey background. Did your's disappear, or at least improve overtime? How is it? I have tried using a 38W UV lamp for nearly an hour and the yellow spots are still there..
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you may need to try a lot of screens to find a good one lol. Mine also has some yellow spots visible in grey but I can live with it... I have still 23 months to think about it (warranty)

vertical lines on display in sleep mode

Hello guys,
I just got my moto g 3 this week... I noticed vertical line on the mobile display today when back light is off or phone is in sleep mode..These lines are not visible when light is on... Moreover they are viable at a particular angle only or under direct light focussed on it.
The display and touch seems to be fine until now and no issues with performance.. But I am little worried about this fault of vertical lines. Does this mean a faulty display and should I get my phone replaced.. Please suggest if anyone else faced the same issue..
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Even I have these lines. Don't think anything is faulty or anything though.
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Yeap, same thing here with a XT1543. But I only see them if I really look for it hehehe, it is not THAT noticeable IMHO... Relax, dude!

Today I noticed that I can see these vertical lines in daylight even while the backlight is on.
Has anyone faced this until now. If not can u guys please try and advise here..

Just for reference, I can see "vertical lines" on my LG G2 display under sunlight with the display on or off. It's more prominent when it's off though. I wouldn't worry about it, I think it has something to do with the digitizer (capacitive touch layer) underneath the glass.

Yes in direct sunlight i can see lines, dots, and even evenly spaced tiny threads reflecting in bright sunlight when the screen is off, and tiny vertical threads while using camera outdoors in bright sunlight. Never had a display like this before. Either something new and amazing technology or cheaporola uses cheap displays. Googled it. At least mine has no dead/hot/stock pixels.

Can see the lines when screen is pointed towards a light source

Got the same lines on my Moto G 2014, it's somewhat related to Gorilla Glass.

dont have any on xt1540 ,my xperia z2 had so i can easy notice it.

I have the same kind of thing on my moto g 4g, it's perfect normal and is due to the screen layers. :good:

i too notice those lines .. but only once i was able to see it , now i am unable to see ..
i think its related to temperature

nandakis4 said:
i too notice those lines .. but only once i was able to see it , now i am unable to see ..
i think its related to temperature
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Yes i observed it as well from day one. It is visible in sleep mode only looking from certain angles. Weird but not really an issue.

Grainy or Noise Display

Are all G Flex 2 really have grainy screen? Mine is really obvious

Well it seems that I got lucky then (same 13% brightness)

Did u just posted screenshots to show u don't have grainy screen? Jesus people in Flex 2 forums are quite special.
Tapnięte.

So whats wrong with this??
I just wanted to show that not every g flex 2 out there is faulty.
Of course it still overheats but every sd810 device does

Can you post an actual picture.

Pungasul said:
So whats wrong with this??
I just wanted to show that not every g flex 2 out there is faulty.
Of course it still overheats but every sd810 device does
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the pic that you r posting is a screenshot taken by the mobile itself i.e software produced pic.
the software doesn't see the grainy display its visible to the viewer only.
so in other words take the pic of your flex 2 with some other mobile or camera.
oh and i don't find my display too grainy i means its ok not too bad not too good either at minimum brightness.
at 100% its good.

So its normal then? Kinda annoying coz i came from lg g3. Its more noticeable when watching film and when the set up is in dark places

Unfortunately its OK . Display was never big advantage of this phone. Mine is grainy too,with yellow-ish marks,also after 8 months i got burn-in (nothing horrible,2mm line at bottom). But you will get used to it.

At first i thought the phone's lcd was replaced by some cheap one.

You can set the colors to vivid in settings> display it helps a little, or use brightness above 50%

Thanks

Pungasul said:
So whats wrong with this??
I just wanted to show that not every g flex 2 out there is faulty.
Of course it still overheats but every sd810 device does
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Do you really understand what he told you ? And that taking a screenshot doesn't really show the grainy stuff ?
I mean.. cmon dude... Quite special like he said.

grainy screen become obvious in low brightness or in gray colors

My screen is cracked, let me take a screenshot of it.... Smh

Grainy screen and warming are the main reasons why the H950 didn't sell well...
those are the most common problem that device has. and every Flex2 device has it, so make sure you didn't pay above 300$ for this one...

Light Bleeding

I've decided to start a new thread to gain some focus on this issue.
It is common on the U11 according to some posts.
I've just noticed after the recent update, maybe it was there from the beginning, that this device has a lot of light bleed around the sides when using always-on feature. Some parts of the edges of the device has greater light bleed than other sections.
It's quite noticeable and adds more light to the room at night. If only the time was showing it would be perfect. This is what I thought was there before the upgrade. However I believe that any light bleeding is a hardware thing not a software thing.
This could be a reason why it drains the battery so much.
The light bleeding isn't noticeable during the day as far as I have checked.
Maybe I should return this device but not sure if HTC will agree.

globalgpj said:
I've decided to start a new thread to gain some focus on this issue.
It is common on the U11 according to some posts.
I've just noticed after the recent update, maybe it was there from the beginning, that this device has a lot of light bleed around the sides when using always-on feature. Some parts of the edges of the device has greater light bleed than other sections.
It's quite noticeable and adds more light to the room at night. If only the time was showing it would be perfect. This is what I thought was there before the upgrade. However I believe that any light bleeding is a hardware thing not a software thing.
This could be a reason why it drains the battery so much.
The light bleeding isn't noticeable during the day as far as I have checked.
Maybe I should return this device but not sure if HTC will agree.
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According to some early buyer, U11+ shows the light bleeding only from the bottom right corner of the display.
Also it should be barely noticeable: if your unit has "lot of light bleed around the sides" maybe it has a faulty or not properly assembled display...or maybe you are exaggerating things!

Can you please show a picture of this issue?

In darkness, the light bleed is visible, and expected on an LCD because you can not light up just the pixels (the date and notification floating window) which you want to show on an LCD . The whole screen has to be lit up with minimal brightness.
In normal lighting, its not visible at all because the brightness on U11+ can go down quite a bit and blacks are blacker than I have seen on an LCD.

See attached image.
Not sure what's acceptable with light bleeding by HTC's standards or most mobile manufacturers.

globalgpj said:
See attached image.
Not sure what's acceptable with light bleeding by HTC's standards or most mobile manufacturers.
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Ouch! That really looks bad.
I was eyeing this phone, and can't decide between it and the LG V30. Both seem to be a lottery with the displays unfortunately...

globalgpj said:
See attached image.
Not sure what's acceptable with light bleeding by HTC's standards or most mobile manufacturers.
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Got my HTC u11 plus today and my screen has the same kind off light bleed.
It's only on the "smart display" though

Elvemoon said:
Got my HTC u11 plus today and my screen has the same kind off light bleed.
It's only on the "smart display" though
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Can't believe I'm the first one to ask, but is it the UK or Asia model?

codrin.brustureanu said:
Can't believe I'm the first one to ask, but is it the UK or Asia model?
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Asia model , its very minimal on my phone. Have to stand in a dark room to see the bleed in the right hand corner

Mine is direct from Taiwan.
Yes, the bleed is only noticeable using the always-on feature.
I could swear I didn't notice it before the recent update. But it's got to be a hardware thing.

LCD Panel + Backlight = visible light on black screen. No surprises here tbh lol

Galactus said:
LCD Panel + Backlight = visible light on black screen. No surprises here tbh lol
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Exactly!! To all the HTC detractors making this a huge issue, show me an LCD screen which does not have it.
Here is another nugget: the non-uniform light bleed shown in the photo above is because of special algorithm followed by always on display software. If you just do a full screen black (use the Full Screen Test from play store), you will see a uniform backlighting, which is the best I have seen on an LCD. U11+ display has no defects in my opinion.
HTC should not have even tried AOD on an LCD screen.

Htc m9 and 10 didn't have that much

vegetaleb said:
Htc m9 and 10 didn't have that much
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I have the HTC 10. The black on HTC U11+ is blacker than the black on HTC 10 i.e. the backlight is even lower on U11+ than 10. I tested using the Full Screen Test I mentioned above. I would like to mention again that non-uniform light bleed is only an issue with always-on-display, and not with the screen in general. And its the non-uniformity of backlight that makes it seem like an issue.

Thanks for all the feedback.
I'm very happy with the U11+.
I just selected the option to turn the always-on feature when I move the device, so it's very liveable.
HTC has always been my favourite manufacturer for the last 13+years. The HD2 one of the best years ago.

Ouch, this light bleed seems harsh. Although it should be expected given the screen's technology.

It's not a default. Devsk explained it well, I wouldn't worry it
Even my Moto X Pure LCD screen has bleed, but it is only visible in total darkness on a black screen. Doesn't bother me in the least.
PS Anyone who is curious can download the Backlight Bleed Test app from the Playstore to view how much bleed your particular LCD screen has.

People who think this is normal for LCD screens, let me stop you right there! The HTC U11+ has blacks nearly as black as LED screens, even at night. There was no light bleed when I received this device. I held it next to the S8 Plus, and both had almost the same black values. It's amazing.
After a week however, I suddenly had an extreme light bleed, 0,5cm around all edges, like some sort of weird snow theme. Luckily it faded within an hour. Now it's normal again, except for the down right corner. That's only noticable when the screen is black, and it shows the time. It's barely noticable though.
This incident led me to believe it's anything but normal. The seller told me it's alright to exchange my device for a new one, so I hope it's not an issue with all devices. :fingers-crossed:
You'd think it's an hardware issue, but what are the possibilties the software influenced the backlight? Any thoughts?

UPDATE:
Just had a software update, and the light bleed is gone now. Even in the down right corner. Is this a coincidence, or do you think it might have been a software problem?

Barendbakkelei said:
UPDATE:
Just had a software update, and the light bleed is gone now. Even in the down right corner. Is this a coincidence, or do you think it might have been a software problem?
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What software update did you get ?
What's the version number?