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Just received my oppo find X2 pro this morning from EE.
Brilliant phone!
I recently had the Samsung S20 ultra (exynos) and wow this is miles better ? 12gb ram 512gb storage what a beast?.
I did think it was a dual SIM phone unpon ordering even tho I don't use 2 Sims it seems weird how they removed this feature.
Disappointing not dual SIM.
Lovely piece of kit almost as good as Huawei p40 pro.
It's a very nice screen and very quick but the camera is very underwhelming so far
andywright1982 said:
It's a very nice screen and very quick but the camera is very underwhelming so far
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What issues do you have? You seem to be in the very tiny minority of people disappointed by the camera. According to the online reviews, I can't stop loving it.
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What issues do you have? You seem to be in the very tiny minority of people disappointed by the camera. According to the online reviews, I can't stop loving it.
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The images are too cool. My 18m old mate 20 pro takes sharper pics and my iPhone 11 takes better video and warmer pictures.
Unfortunately I will be returning it unless gcam significantly improves it
andywright1982 said:
The images are too cool. My 18m old mate 20 pro takes sharper pics and my iPhone 11 takes better video and warmer pictures.
Unfortunately I will be returning it unless gcam significantly improves it
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That's strange, Find X2 Pro is overall praised for its excellent color reproduction. Detail is also top tier, actually even beating P40 Pro by a very slight margin (in ideal lighting conditions).
My advice is: don't return it. ColorOS 7.2 is about to come (I'd give it 2-3 months before it reaches us) and, among other nice improvements, it releases Oppo Camera SDK allowing other apps (such as Snapchat, Instagram, gcam) use all its lenses.
So if you're willing to wait with maybe a little bit less top-tier camera (perfectly top-tier and well-rounded in my opinion though) by then, you will get a very capable gcam rather soon.
Nah, I will return it. If 7.2 improves it enough I will buy it again at a reduced price
Welcome to England where you can buy things use them and again use them, then you feel disappointed and sen it back, then after couple of days you buy it again but this time cheaper
The phone is good stop whining
I've had the S20 ultra and the iPhone 11 pro and p40 pro this year and I'm impressed with the camera on this phone compared to them and I'm not saying there crap as there all good shooters and there's many strengths and weaknesses in all of them, I think it's very similar to the p40 pro but I prefere the colour this phone produces rather than the p40 pro as the p40 seems over saturated a lot of the time to me where this phone seems more life like.
It's a brilliant phone and I will certainly be upgrading to the next oppo find x next year regardless to what apple and Samsung, Huawei, Google bring out in the future.
Holding this phone compared to anything else, you get to realise how premium this phone is.
alleshi said:
Welcome to England where you can buy things use them and again use them, then you feel disappointed and sen it back, then after couple of days you buy it again but this time cheaper
The phone is good stop whining
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The phone is good. But for £1100 I expect more than just good. My 18m mate 20 pro is better in every way except refresh rate and processor. Gone back to that and haven’t looked back
Wouldn't have another SoC other than Snapdragon hence why I didn't get a Samsung or Huawei, Kirin & Exynos will forever be inferior
Out of interest, what firmware version is the EE supplied handsets running?
My SIM free from Amazon is currently at CPH2025CPW_11_A.30
It has CPW in the name which is not showing in the name of the version on their website. ROM versions get a bit confusing! I think Vodafone is VF but not sure if EE has its own version.
Also whilst I remember, if you are in a 5G area, does it work OK and show 5G in the top? I've got 5G enabled but when I do a manual search for providers it doesn't show anyone with 5G but I know the local 3 mast is 5G! I thought that would be in the list
Cheers
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Out of interest, what firmware version is the EE supplied handsets running?
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EE is CPH2025EE_11.A.30
Hey whats up , just looking for advice /opinions from p40 pro owners
Ok got me the oneplus 8 pro on (H3G) UK and well that was a big let down in the camera department and battery life not to mention display issues , anyway within my 14 days I can exchange to pretty much any phone they have so camera is pretty important so I toy'd with idea of p40 pro but without Google was a bit off putting so I decided on the S20 Ultra and well let's say I'm not blown away with the camera on that,
has just been updated and is kinda beta especially auto focus was main issue at the time , so my question is should I while I'm still in my 14 days retun S20 ultra for the P40 pro as s20 ultra 100x zoom is well waste of time I know anything pretty much past 30x is a blurr but over all watching YouTube video although samsung looks more natural colour's the detail of the p40 pro can be slightly better its very subjective in most comparisons I can get over the fact there's no Google but should I switch or stick with the ultra and hope samsung can improve further anybody actually switched from s20 ultra to p40 pro and regret it or are you much happier , I know on paper s20 ultra spec wise display ok 120hz at 1080p isn't ideal but display is beautiful and 12gb ram and stereo speakers and tech better front facing cam ,again subjective . I just don't know want to do , thanks for reading hope you can help decide , Lol stay safe [emoji4]
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Personally, I'd prefer the P40P and that's not just because it's cheaper and better value depending on how your needs. It's also important to summarize and weigh up the pros and cons for both devices. If you're in the UK with a Exynos CPU, then I'd personally avoid the S20 Ultra altogether due to the hot attention it's been getting for its inferior battery life and CPU performance.
Screen - Samsung (120hz, brighter and higher quality display, no huge pill-shaped punch hole notch)
Battery Life and Charging - Tie IMO (P40P's 5G chipset is more efficient since it has a built-in 5G modem and Huawei tend to be more memory aggressive with closing down background apps). Exynos S20 Ultra isn't as good as the Snapdragon model as it's less power efficient so its chipsets just aren't created equally. Some proof shown here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63T5lrDivn8
Camera - P40P (doesn't have the auto focus issues, has superior night mode, slightly better zoom, front cameras are one of the best and even though the wide angle has a smaller field of view, it's a far bigger sensor which lets lets you capture better detailed shots)
Software - Samsung (as Huawei are banned from Google Play Services but you can still sideload most of the apps you need)
Overall aesthetics and design - P40P (mainly down to personal preference but the S20 Ultra is too big and chunky in my opinion and the sleek Frost Silver back, along with the smaller and tidier rear camera bump makes it a winner for me in the attractiveness department)
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Personally, I'd prefer the P40P and that's not just because it's cheaper and better value depending on how your needs. It's also important to summarize and weigh up the pros and cons for both devices. If you're in the UK with a Exynos CPU, then I'd personally avoid the S20 Ultra altogether due to the hot attention it's been getting for its inferior battery life and CPU performance.
Screen - Samsung (120hz, brighter and higher quality display, no huge pill-shaped punch hole notch)
Battery Life and Charging - Tie IMO (P40P's 5G chipset is more efficient since it has a built-in 5G modem and Huawei tend to be more memory aggressive with closing down background apps). Exynos S20 Ultra isn't as good as the Snapdragon model as it's less power efficient so its chipsets just aren't created equally. Some proof shown here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63T5lrDivn8
Camera - P40P (doesn't have the auto focus issues, has superior night mode, slightly better zoom, front cameras are one of the best and even though the wide angle has a smaller field of view, it's a far bigger sensor which lets lets you capture better detailed shots)
Software - Samsung (as Huawei are banned from Google Play Services but you can still sideload most of the apps you need)
Overall aesthetics and design - P40P (mainly down to personal preference but the S20 Ultra is too big and chunky in my opinion and the sleek Frost Silver back, along with the smaller and tidier rear camera bump makes it a winner for me in the attractiveness department)
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Yes it is a dilemma but thats pretty much my conclusion as well on them both if only three had the oppo x2 find pro [emoji848]
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DoobyDroid said:
Yes it is a dilemma but thats pretty much my conclusion as well on them both if only three had the oppo x2 find pro [emoji848]
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The OPPO Find X2 Pro is very similar to the OnePlus 8 Pro though. They have near identical camera specifications (same main sensor), battery size and screen.
I see it as an overpriced version of a OP8P and with inferior software updates since OnePlus are better at releasing new firmware regularly than both Oppo and Samsung. I wouldn't consider it.
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The OPPO Find X2 Pro is very similar to the OnePlus 8 Pro though. They have near identical camera specifications (same main sensor), battery size and screen.
I see it as an overpriced version of a OP8P and with inferior software updates since OnePlus are better at releasing new firmware regularly than both Oppo and Samsung. I wouldn't consider it.
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Oh I best un cancel my canceld p40 pro exchange then lol [emoji38]
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Oh I best un cancel my canceld p40 pro exchange then lol [emoji38]
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If you're purely after a flexible and strong camera performance across all lens and don't mind losing Google Play Services, the P40 Pro is almost impossible to beat in my opinion. The latest .131 firmware update that just came through about a week ago further improves its shooting performance and it can now take macro shots to an extent (I've posted a few other photos in another thread).
The S20 Ultra with its Exynos chipset is just not worth it. Every user has complained of auto focus issues, poor battery life versus its Snapdragon variant and the price tag has set a lot of expectations for perfection which Samsung couldn't deliver (there's a reason why the S20 series sold 50% less than the S10 series and petitions were started demanding Samsung to answer why they separated these two chipsets across various regions) - I'm not against Samsung but this is a sign that there's problems with this phone. The autofocus issues and its inability to take close-up shots are supposedly being fixed in the Note 20+ though.
The OnePlus 8 Pro on the other hand is the best all-rounder I'd say and I'd choose it over the S20 Ultra any day because the screen is just as good as the S20U, has Snapdragon 865 and not the Exynos and is regularly updated with new firmware (a friend of mine coming from the P30 Pro said it was a nice upgrade). It takes great videos too and is amazing value.
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If you're purely after a flexible and strong camera performance across all lens and don't mind losing Google Play Services, the P40 Pro is almost impossible to beat in my opinion. The latest .131 firmware update that just came through about a week ago further improves its shooting performance and it can now take macro shots to an extent (I've posted a few other photos in another thread).
The S20 Ultra with its Exynos chipset is just not worth it. Every user has complained of auto focus issues, poor battery life versus its Snapdragon variant and the price tag has set a lot of expectations for perfection which Samsung couldn't deliver (there's a reason why the S20 series sold 50% less than the S10 series and petitions were started demanding Samsung to answer why they separated these two chipsets across various regions) - I'm not against Samsung but this is a sign that there's problems with this phone. The autofocus issues and its inability to take close-up shots are supposedly being fixed in the Note 20+ though.
The OnePlus 8 Pro on the other hand is the best all-rounder I'd say and I'd choose it over the S20 Ultra any day because the screen is just as good as the S20U, has Snapdragon 865 and not the Exynos and is regularly updated with new firmware (a friend of mine coming from the P30 Pro said it was a nice upgrade). It takes great videos too and is amazing value.
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I've had the 8 pro and wasn't at all impressed tbh camrea wasn't good and battery life and screen issues with greys and black looked wrong and washed out are stick with P40 pro I think it has best camera option that I'm after and battery life and optimization is Stella on Huawei's I can always install my bank app on tablet so not a deal braker tbh to hell with trump hopefully once he's out the ban will be lifted ,
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I've had the 8 pro and wasn't at all impressed tbh camrea wasn't good and battery life and screen issues with greys and black looked wrong and washed out are stick with P40 pro I think it has best camera option that I'm after and battery life and optimization is Stella on Huawei's I can always install my bank app on tablet so not a deal braker tbh to hell with trump hopefully once he's out the ban will be lifted ,
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OP8P's camera is a solid performer, but it's far from a flagship champion in the photography department in my opinion since the P40P is superior in both hardware and software.
Another reason why The P40P is also great in the battery life department is because there aren't any Google Play Services and other Google-related processes running in the background 24/7. I can disable most of Huawei's app services whenever I want, including their App Store, HiCare, HiSearch and their other apps quickly and easily. Yes, even though the battery capacity is only 4200mAh, Huawei has great RAM management and it's not as bloated anymore with other unwanted apps (at least the global version is pretty clean).
I have both the S20U and P40P, i have to say the Huawei is the better device hardware/software wise i u set it up properly HMS/GMS/ICE BOX. I previously had a P30P and i loved it thought i would go Samsung but honestly they are not top of the crop even if the price is.
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I'm really into the Hardware and aesthetic of the phone, and I think the P40 Pro is the best on the market in that aspect. It really feels premium and worth the price. It's the perfect size and weight and the materials are top notch. The Samsungs S20's just don't feel their price which is the first thing that lets it down to me (the Note 10's were much better in that respect).
If you have some patience and are good with technology and can side load GMS on the P40 Pro I'd definitely recommend it. It's the first phone out of the recent flagships that I want to keep for the next 12 months.
Another option I'd suggest is the Oppo Find X2 Pro. ColourOS I actually find I prefer to Oxygen OS. The camera is excellent and the phone feels and looks quality.
Thanks good to hear , yes had p40 lite briefly had issues getting GMS working on that but alot of the vids aimed at the p40 pro gave up with it in the end , hope to have more success with p40 pro just to be on safe side and to get my Google fix I've also ordered a oneplus 8 12GB green so will have the best of both worlds preferred it over the pro having the p40 pro as main camera phone dont see the point in getting another pro as well Roll on Monday and good buy Ultra [emoji3]
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Samsung's Galaxy S22 Series Is a Low-Signal Beast
If you frequently have trouble staying connected to your carrier's network, the Samsung Galaxy S22 series might be the solution. In testing, Samsung's Galaxy S22+ and S22 Ultra phones significantly outperformed their predecessors (as well Google's latest Pixel phones) in low-signal situations.
Ohhh nice. I like this. A lot of my cell usage is in poor service environments.
you should add that it is about the Snapdragon version for a specific chip that is integrated by Qualcomm; Samsung had probably other priorities for Exynos
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you should add that it is about the Snapdragon version for a specific chip that is integrated by Qualcomm; Samsung had probably other priorities for Exynos
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Hope we get atleast a bit better battery life... cause the cpu seems worse
Actually just got mine delivered today (exynos cause I'm in Italy) and I am having issues with mobile data, i had to connect to wifi 3-4 times today because it doesn't work on mobile data
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Actually just got mine delivered today (exynos cause I'm in Italy) and I am having issues with mobile data, i had to connect to wifi 3-4 times today because it doesn't work on mobile data
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I think the software is beta like...cause the phone will release in 10 days and many reviewers have stutter bugs and something like that. Do you have a pocture of yout phone? Which colour?
It's the phantom black version, 12/256 exynos version (I'm in Italy).
I was thinking the same thing, I also have this glitch where the screen turns off when you're browsing the apps (just like you would double tap on the home screen to lock the phone) and the other screen glitch with the purple pixelated stripe popping up when touching the fingerprint scanner, I think I fixed that one by using a normal photo as the lock screen wallpaper instead of the animated wallpaper though
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It's the phantom black version, 12/256 exynos version (I'm in Italy).
I was thinking the same thing, I also have this glitch where the screen turns off when you're browsing the apps (just like you would double tap on the home screen to lock the phone) and the other screen glitch with the purple pixelated stripe popping up when touching the fingerprint scanner, I think I fixed that one by using a normal photo as the lock screen wallpaper instead of the animated wallpaper though
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Thats strange mate...hope Samsung grt this fixed on release also some new gpu drivers...the soc esprcially the gpu is bad now...
Considering how some of these posts are from people with less than 10 posts, I wouldn't take them too seriously. As we all know, trolls love to bash on Samsung.
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Considering how some of these posts are from people with less than 10 posts, I wouldn't take them too seriously. As we all know, trolls love to bash on Samsung.
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Yes trolls are always bad but ive seen videos on youtubr that proves zhat the phone is a bit laggy...also speedtest whre s21 ultra is a good time faster...
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Yes trolls are always bad but ive seen videos on youtubr that proves zhat the phone is a bit laggy...also speedtest whre s21 ultra is a good time faster...
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I'll reserve my judgement until it gets here around the 25th. Besides, these are brand spanking new phones so will definitely need a bunch of tweaks and updates.
I've only watched a few Youtube reviews but maybe it's the ones I watch. They all loved the phone.
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I've only watched a few Youtube reviews but maybe it's the ones I watch. They all loved the phone.
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Yes its a beautiful phone aside for the stutter... also most of them had snapdragon which seems to run better since now
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Yes trolls are always bad but ive seen videos on youtubr that proves zhat the phone is a bit laggy...also speedtest whre s21 ultra is a good time faster...
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I can vouch for this as I have seen similar reports and tests on the Exynos version being slow and battery life less than the s21U. So this isn't Trolls we're dealing with it's actually happening. So don't dismiss people so easily just because they are new and only have a few posts.
The article didn't mention the smaller s22 explicitly. Hopefully it has the same connection qualities.
Notice that they're referring to the US Snapdragon model, which uses an all new X65 modem. It's unclear how the Exynos model performs. If the Exynos modem is anything like the modem in the Pixel 6 Pro, reception might just be good instead of great.
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Notice that they're referring to the US Snapdragon model, which uses an all new X65 modem. It's unclear how the Exynos model performs. If the Exynos modem is anything like the modem in the Pixel 6 Pro, reception might just be good instead of great.
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Hope this isnt the case...my oneplus 7t pro had better reception than my s21 ultra and hoped with the s22u this will change :/
Early opinion of the Exynos S22 Ultra is that mobile data throughput is not significantly different to Exynos S21 series and Pixel 6 Pro modem. It may be slightly more balanced in low signal areas though - one bar performance is a bit more 'consistent'.
A new modem was my main reason for upgrading. I'll testing performance against a S10+ tomorrow, which will be interesting. The S10+ outperforms the Exynos S21 Ultra with 4G, consistently.
So I've got a Snapdragon S22U/512GB, and it def seems like the phone performs better in low service environments vs my old Note 10+ 5G
So easy to lie online
I have Pixel 6 pro and have S22 Ultra, when I do photos side by side, S22 Ultra can't make so good photos. Colours are washed out, details are missing. Even same zoom level photos with pixel have more detail and for example, you can read letters of object you take photo (carbord box with black letters) and on S22 ultra you just get blurry black line.
Expert Raw gives better output, but still can't match Pixel 6 Pro.
So what I see hardware is there and sometimes S22 Ultra comes close, but just point and shoot not satisfied with such camera for price of phone.
Only hope is that Android 13 and software update might get things right. Please share if you know.
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I have Pixel 6 pro and have S22 Ultra, when I do photos side by side, S22 Ultra can't make so good photos. Colours are washed out, details are missing. Even same zoom level photos with pixel have more detail and for example, you can read letters of object you take photo (carbord box with black letters) and on S22 ultra you just get blurry black line.
Expert Raw gives better output, but still can't match Pixel 6 Pro.
So what I see hardware is there and sometimes S22 Ultra comes close, but just point and shoot not satisfied with such camera for price of phone.
Only hope is that Android 13 and software update might get things right. Please share if you know.
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Your s22 Ultra is faulty then. My phone taste fantastic photos...Full of crisp detail. Colour is a bit lacking....admittedly.
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Your s22 Ultra is faulty then. My phone taste fantastic photos...Full of crisp detail. Colour is a bit lacking....admittedly.
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I am not saying that there are crappy photos, but mi 11 ultra and Pixel 6 Pro are making better ones. And in all reviews there are this a bit of better detail with Snapdragon version.
So I just looking for ways to get S22 pictures to be natural colour and looking at least like Pixel 6 Pro.
But on paper S22 Ultra should be making better pictures because of all camera modules etc.
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I am not saying that there are crappy photos, but mi 11 ultra and Pixel 6 Pro are making better ones. And in all reviews there are this a bit of better detail with Snapdragon version.
So I just looking for ways to get S22 pictures to be natural colour and looking at least like Pixel 6 Pro.
But on paper S22 Ultra should be making better pictures because of all camera modules etc.
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I still reckon you have a dodgy phone. I replaced my mi11 with a S22 Ultra. The photos are waaaaay better.
Just small crop from S22 and Pixel 6 pro, this is what I am talking about.... 1st Pixel, 2ns S22 Ultra
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Just small crop from S22 and Pixel 6 pro, this is what I am talking about....
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The top one is the better....
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The top one is the better....
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2.9 MB or 2.4 MB file?
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yes that's from cheaper pixel 6 pro and it's better
Pixel series from years had and still have very good algorytmics, software and all this make very good work.
Maybe in paper PIxels cameras don't look like other devices but in real this devieces from Google can make very good photos (not always movies) even after updates, and presentation next models (read aging device like samsung can do it)
Samsung do not focuses to do possibility maximum good software like Google in PIxel for cameras because easier and more profits is show new device for samsung.
Pixels have always been the best camera phones simply just for their pre- and post-processing, especially now with Tensor.
I saw reports about the camera quality being worse for the Exynos variant compared to Snapdragon on the S22 Ultra though, so for sure this is a factor as well. Europe just always gets screwed over.
There's not much you can do; did you try using the optimizing feature from the S22 Ultra's gallery/photo editing app? Heard it's pretty good. Otherwise you're probably stuck with either "blurry" photos (still good ones though!) or you need to tweak 'em manually.
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Pixels have always been the best camera phones simply just for their pre- and post-processing, especially now with Tensor.
I saw reports about the camera quality being worse for the Exynos variant compared to Snapdragon on the S22 Ultra though, so for sure this is a factor as well. Europe just always gets screwed over.
There's not much you can do; did you try using the optimizing feature from the S22 Ultra's gallery/photo editing app? Heard it's pretty good. Otherwise you're probably stuck with either "blurry" photos (still good ones though!) or you need to tweak 'em manually.
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Expert Raw+ good light can do something close but still, it's 400 EUR more expensive and I need to make photos look better .
Yes they aren't garbage but even far from Mi 11 Ultra.
Hi guys I’m looking to purchase the s22 ultra but seen an old video showing that the Exynos version was pretty bad. Apps taking longer to load and just being laggy. Is this still the case with the Exynos version or has this been fixed via updates?
Go for the Snap variant if you can.
Unfortunately it will be the Exynos as it’s an upgrade with my network. I’m guessing updates hasn’t fixed the issues?
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Unfortunately it will be the Exynos as it’s an upgrade with my network. I’m guessing updates hasn’t fixed the issues?
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I have an Exynos 2200 version for Germany (bought from Samsung directly), and I have really no complaints at all outside a small difference in installation/update times for the apps. I compared with my OPPO Find X3 Pro (PEEM00 version) and the Snapdragon 888 was doing a better job (quite surprised).
But the difference isn't that big, even if the fact that it is noticeable is already a disappointment in itself for a device that premium-priced.
If that kind of thing is bothering you too much, maybe wait a few more months and grab a S23U, if Samsung deploy the full fleet with the SDG2.
Don't make mistake , SD only. If picture quality and some of battery and overall performance is important go for SD. S22Ultra with Exynos makes sh**ty photos and in some areas performing worse than 400 EUR cheaper phones. I have Exynos and not impressed price vs benifit. Last phone that has given me most WOW was Mi 11 Ultra, Pixel 6 Pro - best camera in some scenarious.
I really hope that S23U will be SD globally and that I could get good trade in for S22U.
Two s22 ultra exynos and no complaints
Excellent photo for a smartphone that are just good for point and click
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Don't make mistake , SD only. If picture quality and some of battery and overall performance is important go for SD. S22Ultra with Exynos makes sh**ty photos and in some areas performing worse than 400 EUR cheaper phones. I have Exynos and not impressed price vs benifit.
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I cannot understand that extreme Exynos bashing in 2022. Side by side comparisons (that counts!) show identical battery life and round about 5% less speed for the Exynos. Similar throttling, Exy starting with few percent less power and ending with few percent more.
SnapD Pictures have in side by side comparisons a bit more saturation, but it is hard to define what is (typically) over-saturated or normal. In few details you can see a bit more noise in Exy pictures, ok, de-noising might be an issue, but in a way really affecting picture quality? Have a look into the skies of the pics, the Exy shows more details in bright clouds.
Have you checked decentered camera lenses, this is something that happens and affects the picture quality much more and not depending on the SOC.
On the other hand, the GNSS in the Exynos model can handle carrier phase and should give more accurate positioning, but I do not have direct comparison results. I would accept 5% less CPU power to get a more accurate GPS, but I would also be fine opposite. No reason for bashing.
It seems both, the SD8g1 AND the Exy2200 lack of power efficiency, which seems to be caused by the production process location. But my S22U has 6-10h of SOT (ok for me) and there is no alternative device with that functionality (for me).