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My wife just called me on a landline to say her Samsung Galaxy S2 I9100 has gone missing. She was working in a tiny charity bookshop, so it was easy to check that it wasn't just dropped, and it goes straight to voicemail. It was double PIN protected on both device and SIM.
It was on Android 4.0.1 - I know, I know, she wouldn't allow me to upgrade it.
Question - I know from experience of flashing a new ROM that Google insists on entering the Google account details again to verify proper ownership. Is this a general Android security procedure, or does it work only on Lollipop/Marshmallow?
Just asking because it will be of some small comfort to know that the thieving scum has a paperweight rather than a phone...
dahawthorne said:
I know from experience of flashing a new ROM that Google insists on entering the Google account details again to verify proper ownership.
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Incorrect.
I was hoping for something a bit more concrete than that. And it is correct. When I've done a full reset of my phone to flash a new ROM I get "This device has been reset. Please enter your Google credentials" or words to that effect.
I'm happy to have the response, but can someone please give me a sensible one based on knowledge and not guesswork?
dahawthorne said:
I was hoping for something a bit more concrete than that. And it is correct. When I've done a full reset of my phone to flash a new ROM I get "This device has been reset. Please enter your Google credentials" or words to that effect.
I'm happy to have the response, but can someone please give me a sensible one based on knowledge and not guesswork?
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Oh hey look... no Google account!
You're the one operating on guesswork assuming a Google account is mandatory to use an Android device.
Look, guy, if you have no useful advice to offer me then quit wasting my time...
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Wakamatsu has not made any friends yet
Befriend Wakamatsu"
Well, am I surprised? I think I'll pass on that offer...
You asked about when a security measure was introduced in Android. I informed you that no such security measure exists.
There is a disconnect between what you want to believe and the reality. First, you refused to accept it. Now, you're angry at me because you have no choice but to accept it.
You want reassurances because of your situation? There is none to be offered here.
dahawthorne said:
My wife just called me on a landline to say her Samsung Galaxy S2 I9100 has gone missing. She was working in a tiny charity bookshop, so it was easy to check that it wasn't just dropped, and it goes straight to voicemail. It was double PIN protected on both device and SIM.
It was on Android 4.0.1 - I know, I know, she wouldn't allow me to upgrade it.
Question - I know from experience of flashing a new ROM that Google insists on entering the Google account details again to verify proper ownership. Is this a general Android security procedure, or does it work only on Lollipop/Marshmallow?
Just asking because it will be of some small comfort to know that the thieving scum has a paperweight rather than a phone...
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Unless your carrier has a service that allows imei blacklisting, there is nothing you can do. Even if they do, you'll need a solid proof of ownership and that the phone wasn't just lost. If your wife lost her phone, in most cases there is no obligation on the part of the finder to return it. Any other measure won't do anything, as the device could be wiped clean of everything.
Thanks. optimumpro. My service provider has blocked the phone and the SIM, so with any luck the scumbag will get no joy from it. It's also reported with its IMEI on a website (immobilise.com) which the police refer to when items are recovered.
As to my original question, I believe that the function I mentioned started with Android 5.1, so if the thief has the tech knowledge he/she can probably wipe it and install a new ROM, though I hope the IMEI block will prevent use even with other providers.
Pity - it was a nice little phone - my first smartphone.
And thanks for providing a sensible answer - appreciated.
dahawthorne said:
Thanks. optimumpro. My service provider has blocked the phone and the SIM, so with any luck the scumbag will get no joy from it. It's also reported with its IMEI on a website (immobilise.com) which the police refer to when items are recovered.
As to my original question, I believe that the function I mentioned started with Android 5.1, so if the thief has the tech knowledge he/she can probably wipe it and install a new ROM, though I hope the IMEI block will prevent use even with other providers.
Pity - it was a nice little phone - my first smartphone.
And thanks for providing a sensible answer - appreciated.
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You may want to check ebay, because the phone can be sold to someone from another country. So, with luck you may catch the guy...
Hey all, firstly, sorry this is a rushed post but I'm hoping I can get some advice and pointed in the right direction. I'll start by saying I'm fairly experienced in tech and with Android.
So, a family member was having problem with her new android phone (Samsung J ... 6, 5 or something, I can find out) so I said I'd just do a factory reset - there was nothing on there she was worried about losing).
Long story short, this new security feature (if stolen) where you can't just factory reset has completely screwed me over. They are not tech orientated and can not remember the original google login they made, and barely half of the security questions to remember the original google account. I just want to cry. What was a basic factory reset has turned out to looking like I've 'bricked' their phone. I obviously haven't but it doesn't look good. I've read there's an APK to skip this google sign in step, and I feel competent to do it, but I feel like things can only get worse by this point. There is still hope to reset the google account, but what is your experience using this skip sign in APK. It sounds too easy, for would be thieves, and I don't trust it much. I'm thinking this has gone far enough, I should just tell her to take it back to the provider (EE UK) She's only had it a month. Any idea if they can do this in store or it'll be sent off. Any other words of advice with this skip sign in APK; pulling hair out, thanks
EDIT: Am I right in thinking I can't contact google any further to get the original account back?
whatsoup said:
Hey all, firstly, sorry this is a rushed post but I'm hoping I can get some advice and pointed in the right direction. I'll start by saying I'm fairly experienced in tech and with Android.
So, a family member was having problem with her new android phone (Samsung J ... 6, 5 or something, I can find out) so I said I'd just do a factory reset - there was nothing on there she was worried about losing).
Long story short, this new security feature (if stolen) where you can't just factory reset has completely screwed me over. They are not tech orientated and can not remember the original google login they made, and barely half of the security questions to remember the original google account. I just want to cry. What was a basic factory reset has turned out to looking like I've 'bricked' their phone. I obviously haven't but it doesn't look good. I've read there's an APK to skip this google sign in step, and I feel competent to do it, but I feel like things can only get worse by this point. There is still hope to reset the google account, but what is your experience using this skip sign in APK. It sounds too easy, for would be thieves, and I don't trust it much. I'm thinking this has gone far enough, I should just tell her to take it back to the provider (EE UK) She's only had it a month. Any idea if they can do this in store or it'll be sent off. Any other words of advice with this skip sign in APK; pulling hair out, thanks
EDIT: Am I right in thinking I can't contact google any further to get the original account back?
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Greetings!
Thank you for using XDA Assist.
Having the correct phone model would be helpful here because there are different methods available for fixing this issue. Google will be of no help whatsoever. You can try to bring the device to an authorized Samsung repair center, if available. Also I do recommend bringing it back to the original place of purchase.
Good luck!
Thanks for your reply and sorry for mine being so slow. I guess I'm on my own with this one, but if you can point me to the most favoured guide for a Samsung J36 (I think that is J3 (6) I would appreciate it.
The APK method seems seems easy enough but I'm really worried it has been patched out, seeing as it's a relatively new phone. The last thing I want to do is make it worse. Could you advise how safe the APK method is? usual disclaimers aside
I went into EE today and they weren't much help; they said there's not much they can do, which I don't believe, if we can prove the phone is from them, only a month ago. Thanks for your help. Stress :S
whatsoup said:
Thanks for your reply and sorry for mine being so slow. I guess I'm on my own with this one, but if you can point me to the most favoured guide for a Samsung J36 (I think that is J3 (6) I would appreciate it.
The APK method seems seems easy enough but I'm really worried it has been patched out, seeing as it's a relatively new phone. The last thing I want to do is make it worse. Could you advise how safe the APK method is? usual disclaimers aside
I went into EE today and they weren't much help; they said there's not much they can do, which I don't believe, if we can prove the phone is from them, only a month ago. Thanks for your help. Stress :S
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I haven't seen one for the J3 specifically, as there isn't a specific forum for that model on XDA. May I recommend doing a search to see what turns up. I know that official Samsung repair centers can fix this problem.
Will do, thanks. I wanted to avoid paying for a fix but if it keeps things safe, so be it. I'd have to travel so hopefully they'd do it on the spot. ty
Hi,
I am kinda new to the forum. And I am a little lost with the phone.
My step-father gave me his Pixel 3, as a gift. However, my step-dad has a pretty wicked sense of humor. He gave me the phone, but he didn't entirely log out of the phone. When I turned on the phone, it turned out that the phone is FRP locked. I asked him for the damn pin code, but he rebuked that, unlocking it is part of the learning curve, and I will value this phone more.
In the past few days, I was googling every possible exploit I could find there. Just to learn that phone is running Android Q, so nothing really works. (You can see my dad is a wicked person).
I understand that I have flash new software, but any ideas how could I do that? I have absolutely no clue how what to do. I downloaded Android Studio, but I don't even know what to do with that software. I a complete noob, to that.
What I managed to establish is that the phone has dev options turned off. It's running Android Q from April this year, and device in fastboot mode says the device is locked.
I will be grateful for any tips. I wanna see shocked face of my step dad.
Shadowmidnightedge said:
Hi,
I am kinda new to the forum. And I am a little lost with the phone.
My step-father gave me his Pixel 3, as a gift. However, my step-dad has a pretty wicked sense of humor. He gave me the phone, but he didn't entirely log out of the phone. When I turned on the phone, it turned out that the phone is FRP locked. I asked him for the damn pin code, but he rebuked that, unlocking it is part of the learning curve, and I will value this phone more.
In the past few days, I was googling every possible exploit I could find there. Just to learn that phone is running Android Q, so nothing really works. (You can see my dad is a wicked person).
I understand that I have flash new software, but any ideas how could I do that? I have absolutely no clue how what to do. I downloaded Android Studio, but I don't even know what to do with that software. I a complete noob, to that.
What I managed to establish is that the phone has dev options turned off. It's running Android Q from April this year, and device in fastboot mode says the device is locked.
I will be grateful for any tips. I wanna see shocked face of my step dad.
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If say give it back to the rightful owner. You won't get any help here trying to hack into someone else's phone.
Either your story is BS, or he is an idiot and doesn't understand FRP. I'll pretend that the story isn't BS however unlikely, and tell you to get the PIN/PW. Otherwise, take your losses on whatever you paid for the stolen phone.
He guys, I just stole a phone, can you help me launder this phone? - Is the honest question here I suspect.
If not, you should be able to get the password from the person who last used it.
First, thank you, everyone, for the replies. Second I would like to reply to some concerns, that were raised here, So to address the biggest elephant in the room, the phone was not stolen. my stepdad simply has a strange sense of humor and he likes to torture me with his ''jokes''. This would be one of them. He gave me a locked phone on purpose thinking it would be funny, watching me twiddling with the phone for hours, until I would come to him begging him for a password. Which already happened yesterday. The phone is now, working as it should be. The third thing I wanna mention is the fact that at the time of writing this post, I was pretty confused about the whole situation. I didn't realize fully what is FRP, . It was the first time when I heard about it in my life. All my life I had Samsung phones, and never before I had to deal with something like FRP. I simply thought it was another stupid joke of my stepdad..
I am a person, who likes challenges, and the fact that my stepdad has pulled another number on me made my desperation, but defeat him, even bigger, I am rather a tech literate, so having him challenging me on unlocking this phone rubbed my ego wrong way. I apologize for causing any disturbance here.
Shadowmidnightedge said:
First, thank you, everyone, for the replies. Second I would like to reply to some concerns, that were raised here, So to address the biggest elephant in the room, the phone was not stolen. my stepdad simply has a strange sense of humor and he likes to torture me with his ''jokes''. This would be one of them. He gave me a locked phone on purpose thinking it would be funny, watching me twiddling with the phone for hours, until I would come to him begging him for a password. Which already happened yesterday. The phone is now, working as it should be. The third thing I wanna mention is the fact that at the time of writing this post, I was pretty confused about the whole situation. I didn't realize fully what is FRP, . It was the first time when I heard about it in my life. All my life I had Samsung phones, and never before I had to deal with something like FRP. I simply thought it was another stupid joke of my stepdad..
I am a person, who likes challenges, and the fact that my stepdad has pulled another number on me made my desperation, but defeat him, even bigger, I am rather a tech literate, so having him challenging me on unlocking this phone rubbed my ego wrong way. I apologize for causing any disturbance here.
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If this is legit then post the IMEI of the phone and take a pic of the phone box with the matching IMEI or a screenshot of the order email / receipt
Ak7J4 said:
If this is legit then post the IMEI of the phone and take a pic of the phone box with the matching IMEI or a screenshot of the order email / receipt
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For what purpose? He already said he got the P/W and it is working. He didn't ask anything else and simply said "thanks."
Thread closed as the Op doesn't require any additional assistance.
Second of all if you can help then please do so... if you think something isn't right hit report and move ahead.
Thanks
SacredDeviL666
Hi guys,
I'm a new user, I have a problem to which, when talking to a friend, he recommended me to register here and ask about my issue, as there seems to be plenty Android Experts that may be able to provide me a straight answer or give me hope.
My dad just passed away, I still can't believe it happened, given the fact that he wasn't too old... but going back on topic, his phone is a Redmi Note 4 that I ordered him around two years ago, he lived abroad and was a regular user, he never messed up with settings or anything, just stock MIUI with the updates that were sent as far as he mentioned me last time we could speak about his phone. What I would like to know is if it would be possible to recover his phone data, what me and my sisters care for the most are his pictures, we want to recover them and save them in a place where we have access to.
However, while searching on many websites, there are many Android Data Recovery software but they always request me to enable the USB debugging, but it is impossible for me, as the phone has a Pattern/Fingerprint lock.
Also, found several software that claim to remove your screen lock without deleting the device contents but when I'm going to the unlock step, there is a prompt that I have to confirm to delete all the information. And I've downloaded more than five software for each, the last one I downloaded is called Dr. Fone from Wondershare; I sent an email to them asking if I have to purchase the product to get that feature but I have not received any reply yet.
Basically, the phone is locked without USB Debugging, and I cannot access the files in the phone which is all we want.
Does anyone knows of a way to unlock it?
I'd even pay if it is necessary, I just haven't purchased the software mentioned above because I can't find if they are real or are just scam, there isn't like much information about them. Or has anyone purchased or successfully used any of those softwares?
The model is a Redmi Note 4 I believe it was the Global Version, with MIUI 8.1, but I'm not sure.
I'm getting a bit frustrated, maybe my dad doesn't want us to unlock his phone and that is why I cannot find a way, but I would like to know if it is possible.
I really appreciate your time, I'm sorry for the long text, if there is anything that maybe I'm missing, please let me know.
Thanks in advance
Javier
Thjavo said:
Hi guys,
I'm a new user, I have a problem to which, when talking to a friend, he recommended me to register here and ask about my issue, as there seems to be plenty Android Experts that may be able to provide me a straight answer or give me hope.
My dad just passed away, I still can't believe it happened, given the fact that he wasn't too old... but going back on topic, his phone is a Redmi Note 4 that I ordered him around two years ago, he lived abroad and was a regular user, he never messed up with settings or anything, just stock MIUI with the updates that were sent as far as he mentioned me last time we could speak about his phone. What I would like to know is if it would be possible to recover his phone data, what me and my sisters care for the most are his pictures, we want to recover them and save them in a place where we have access to.
However, while searching on many websites, there are many Android Data Recovery software but they always request me to enable the USB debugging, but it is impossible for me, as the phone has a Pattern/Fingerprint lock.
Also, found several software that claim to remove your screen lock without deleting the device contents but when I'm going to the unlock step, there is a prompt that I have to confirm to delete all the information. And I've downloaded more than five software for each, the last one I downloaded is called Dr. Fone from Wondershare; I sent an email to them asking if I have to purchase the product to get that feature but I have not received any reply yet.
Basically, the phone is locked without USB Debugging, and I cannot access the files in the phone which is all we want.
Does anyone knows of a way to unlock it?
I'd even pay if it is necessary, I just haven't purchased the software mentioned above because I can't find if they are real or are just scam, there isn't like much information about them. Or has anyone purchased or successfully used any of those softwares?
The model is a Redmi Note 4 I believe it was the Global Version, with MIUI 8.1, but I'm not sure.
I'm getting a bit frustrated, maybe my dad doesn't want us to unlock his phone and that is why I cannot find a way, but I would like to know if it is possible.
I really appreciate your time, I'm sorry for the long text, if there is anything that maybe I'm missing, please let me know.
Thanks in advance
Javier
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I understand your situation, I lost my father a few years ago. It is possible to recover the data from your dad's phone, but, unfortunately, it is against the forum rules here to help with cracking a phone to retrieve data that does not belong to you. The reason why it is against the rules, even in your unfortunate situation, is because anything we tell you could be seen and used by other people to break into devices that do not belong to them.
Another factor is, we don't know if what you tell us is actually true or not. That does not mean that you are deceiving us, it just means we have no way of knowing and we can't just take your word for it.
These reasons make it unacceptable for anyone in this forum to help you. It's all about security and maintaining security, regardless of the situation, and it is somewhat a legal issue. Helping crack the device could be a liability against XDA or the members helping you. A member or user can choose to compromise their own security but we can't help with devices that are not theirs.
It is best if you didn't ask this question here and it is pointless for you to try making another thread about this issue with different wording because all of your threads and posts can be viewed from your user profile page. It is also pointless to try making another username to post this issue again with different wording because the moderators and Admin can see that it is still you with a different name.
I know it sucks, but anyone that helps you will be violating the forum rules. I'm not saying that you can't get this done, I'm just saying no one HERE can legitimately help you. I would try linking you to other places that can help you, but even that might be pushing the rules a bit.
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each device has a google account (and maybe a xiaomi account). you can check from PC if there is the google password saved in browser. if not, each google account has a fallback email address where you may be able to request a (google) password reset. from google you can lock the phone with temporary password, then unlock the screen with temporary password. if you recently changed the google password before, you need to wait at least 72 hours with internet connection. besides this you can check photos.google.com or drive.google.com for any backups.
without knowing the google account, you still can try to bruteforce the pattern with Teensy or Hak5 USB Rubber Ducky microcontroller connected via USB OTG adapter. if the phone does not support USB OTG there are more expensive solutions like XPIN Clip (this is just a common hint, the important part is the code for microcontroller which i don't share here). also there might be a chance to flash TWRP custom recovery in EDL Mode without unlocking the bootloader or factory reset via exploit, and TWRP might be able to decrypt userdata partition with default_password
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I've tried it all making my own combo rom downloading's from multiple sources multiple odin versions nothing is working it is literally costing me money and sleep i need this phone to work asap i cant find the right forum or am to stupid to know what the right one is would really really appreciate an answer asap on this like my whole show is depending on it and I'm failing badly id love a step by step for dummies concerning frp removal or bypass for this modal its s9 Verizon on 10 usqu9fue1 please thankyou
To disable / remove FRP lock you
either
delete your Google account on phone
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do a Factory Reset
jwoegerbauer said:
To disable / remove FRP lock you
either
delete your Google account on phone
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do a Factory Reset
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Factory reset doesn't remove FRP lock, that actually puts the device in a state of being FRP locked if FRP/Find My Device hasn't been disabled BEFORE doing the factory reset.
Droidriven said:
Factory reset doesn't remove FRP lock, that actually puts the device in a state of being FRP locked if FRP/Find My Device hasn't been disabled BEFORE doing the factory reset.
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Wtfanyone that actually has a clue care to help me out....wow just....wow
jwoegerbauer said:
To disable / remove FRP lock you
either
delete your Google account on phone
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do a Factory Reset
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No why are u answering questions fr like....wtf
Jessicad89 said:
Wtfanyone that actually has a clue care to help me out....wow just....wow
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Not all devices are equal, therefore, the fix to this varies from one device to the next. Also, giving you the solution also makes the solution available to people that are trying to find a way to remove FRP lock from devices that are not rightfully theirs, such as stolen devices. To avoid potentially aiding someone in gaining access to devices and personal data that is not theirs, we typically don't answer. We also don't know if the device you are trying to access is actually yours, I mean, it isn't like we can take your word for it because you could be lying to us and we wouldn't know, not that you are, just saying that it is an uncertain scenario. It isn't specifically against the forum rules but its kind of an unspoken rule because it is a grey area that is best to stay out of.
Droidriven said:
Not all devices are equal, therefore, the fix to this varies from one device to the next. Also, giving you the solution also makes the solution available to people that are trying to find a way to remove FRP lock from devices that are not rightfully theirs, such as stolen devices. To avoid potentially aiding someone in gaining access to devices and personal data that is not theirs, we typically don't answer. We also don't know if the device you are trying to access is actually yours, I mean, it isn't like we can take your word for it because you could be lying to us and we wouldn't know, not that you are, just saying that it is an uncertain scenario. It isn't specifically against the forum rules but its kind of an unspoken rule because it is a grey area that is best to stay out of.
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that is an asinine approach and a terrible mentality why wuld you even take the time to tell me that load of hogwash, is isnt my fault thaat production companies are struggling ith security and have terrible answers i provide the information needed to identify the correct procedure u know...the modal number build ect. i am somewhat appalled by this response as it has wasted both of our time, i live in America where your innocent till proven guilty not assumed potentially guilty at all times i will find an answer regardless of your counterproductive rathole ideology concerning information. heres whos fault it is if a device is stolen...the owners security is my responsibility concerning my things and that goes across the board worldwide. but i do appreciate well nothing about what you've said here. quite the opposite google its he evil empire and the "solution" of frp is absolutely a wash but thanks anyways
Wondering why you not simply do a Google search for it, if the answer given here isn't what you expected to be, instead of ranting around here?
BTW:
The Factory Reset Protection (FRP) is regulated in the US via the Smartphone Theft Prevention Act of 2015. The Act requires device manufacturers to feature a so-called "kill switch". The purpose of the kill switch was to discourage smartphone theft by dramatically reducing resale value of stolen devices.
Jessicad89 said:
that is an asinine approach and a terrible mentality why wuld you even take the time to tell me that load of hogwash, is isnt my fault thaat production companies are struggling ith security and have terrible answers i provide the information needed to identify the correct procedure u know...the modal number build ect. i am somewhat appalled by this response as it has wasted both of our time, i live in America where your innocent till proven guilty not assumed potentially guilty at all times i will find an answer regardless of your counterproductive rathole ideology concerning information. heres whos fault it is if a device is stolen...the owners security is my responsibility concerning my things and that goes across the board worldwide. but i do appreciate well nothing about what you've said here. quite the opposite google its he evil empire and the "solution" of frp is absolutely a wash but thanks anyways
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Just because it isn't the reply that you wanted, does not make it hogwash. If you can't understand the logic of what I said, that's your failing, not mine. I don't care what you appreciate or don't, that has nothing to do with anything. Thinking like that only makes you the one with the personal problem, not us. FRP exists for a very good reason, one that is understandably inconvenient for you in the current circumstances. It has nothing to do with guilt, no one labeled you or assumed you to be guilty, don't take it personal and drop the attitude.
But, hey, nevermind the fact that FRP exists for a reason, let's just ignore that just for you since it is you and you are so special that we should help you while at the same time making it easier for actual thieves to be able to use and resale devices that they've stolen, let's enable criminal activity just to help you since you're so special, right? Get real!
Droidriven said:
Just because it isn't the reply that you wanted, does not make it hogwash. If you can't understand the logic of what I said, that's your failing, not mine. I don't care what you appreciate or don't, that has nothing to do with anything. Thinking like that only makes you the one with the personal problem, not us. FRP exists for a very good reason, one that is understandably inconvenient for you in the current circumstances. It has nothing to do with guilt, no one labeled you or assumed you to be guilty, don't take it personal and drop the attitude.
But, hey, nevermind the fact that FRP exists for a reason, let's just ignore that just for you since it is you and you are so special that we should help you while at the same time making it easier for actual thieves to be able to use and resale devices that they've stolen, let's enable criminal activity just to help you since you're so special, right? Get real!
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i care so little about what you have to say i didn't even read that dribble and will continue that policy throughout our relationship ill get it either way thought i would give xda a shot if your representative of the body of knowledge and attitude here it as a mistake to be certain
Jessicad89 said:
i care so little about what you have to say i didn't even read that dribble and will continue that policy throughout our relationship ill get it either way thought i would give xda a shot if your representative of the body of knowledge and attitude here it as a mistake to be certain
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Do you think your opinion matters to anyone here? Do you think your attitude makes you superior somehow? It actually achieves quite the opposite, but please, continue proving me right, I know you've got more big talk in there somewhere because that is all you have, which is nothing.