I hate having full phone cases, but I also hate the prospect of an all-glass phone that's designed to be slippery as a wet snake shattering on the ground*.
The prospect of a bumper, however, theoretically should protect as well as a full body case -- assuming it's being dropped onto a flat surface, which I'd wager that most drops are. If the bumper has enough "lip" that extends past the surface of both sides of the phone, then any drop onto a flat surface shouldn't have any concentrated point of impact into the screen, and then the rubber bumper would hopefully cushion enough deceleration to bring the drop underneath the glass-cracking strength point. Right?
Ideally, I'd like to get a mere bumper as a case, and then have the back of the phone sprayed with some slightly tacky adhesive, or something to lessen the wet noodle slipperiness of it.
Thoughts on these two ideas? Has anyone tried the bumper approach (and had any success or failure with it)?
(*It's seriously unbelievable how slippery Samsung makes these things. I can't help but think it's a design move intended specifically to foster an easier dropping and cracking of phones, albeit disguised under the veil of "elegant-looking sleekness" design.)
Coldblackice said:
I hate having full phone cases, but I also hate the prospect of an all-glass phone that's designed to be slippery as a wet snake shattering on the ground*.
The prospect of a bumper, however, theoretically should protect as well as a full body case -- assuming it's being dropped onto a flat surface, which I'd wager that most drops are. If the bumper has enough "lip" that extends past the surface of both sides of the phone, then any drop onto a flat surface shouldn't have any concentrated point of impact into the screen, and then the rubber bumper would hopefully cushion enough deceleration to bring the drop underneath the glass-cracking strength point. Right?
Ideally, I'd like to get a mere bumper as a case, and then have the back of the phone sprayed with some slightly tacky adhesive, or something to lessen the wet noodle slipperiness of it.
Thoughts on these two ideas? Has anyone tried the bumper approach (and had any success or failure with it)?
(*It's seriously unbelievable how slippery Samsung makes these things. I can't help but think it's a design move intended specifically to foster an easier dropping and cracking of phones, albeit disguised under the veil of "elegant-looking sleekness" design.)
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Rather than spraying some kind of goo on back of phone, you can simply use a clear slim fit case such as:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MJGPW1Q/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have used this one since my phone was new and it's great. Almost as thin as nothing, cushioning TPU gel construction and it is clear. It provides for a very good grip.
I am sure there are others with similar qualities for both S10 and S10+.
Get a rhinoshield bumper and a skin to reduce the slipperiness of the back
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I'll add my name to the list of fans of this case-
I got mine last night and it's exactly what I was looking for. The fit is nice and snug, but not so tight it hurts to get it out once you put it in..... THE CASE AND MY N4 I mean!! ....dirty minds, all of you...
Seriously, it's a great fit, nice solid snap in and no worry of having to pry your N4 out when you need to clean it. Speaking for which, if I had to list a "con" it might be that this case is just a little too bare bones- i.e. bare plastic touching the glass backing of the phone and no liner to protect against and errant particle of dust or grit. So be sure to remove your N4 and clean it an the case every so often.
It feels smoother and a bit slicker than I thought it would, not quite a "soft touch" as other case that have a matte finish. This can be a good thing as some of the soft touch cases I've owned have had a rubberized coating that can and has rubbed or peeled off over time. Won't be an issue with this Ringke.
This case is great if you just want some protection against getting the phone edges dinged or surfaces getting scuffed when being set down (there is a lip around the front screen which raises up a bit at each corner so you can set the phone screen down), but not so concerned about serious drop protection.
Highly recommended!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUsTSk6xjjo&t=388s
According to this guy's tests, a plastic one is better if you want to prevent your screen cracking from impacts and fall damage.
The persistent rumor that the opposite is true doesn't even make sense to a scientist such as myself - glass is hard and brittle, and will transfer impact energy to the screen, while plastic is soft and will dissipate a lot of that energy.
I almost never drop my phone, but wear it in the pocket all the time with tiny dust etc which might cause scratches. Aslo I hate the feeling of a plastic foil on the screen, its just not as smooth as a glas surface. That's why I use the tempered screen protector.
nabbed said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUsTSk6xjjo&t=388s
According to this guy's tests, a plastic one is better if you want to prevent your screen cracking from impacts and fall damage.
The persistent rumor that the opposite is true doesn't even make sense to a scientist such as myself - glass is hard and brittle, and will transfer impact energy to the screen, while plastic is soft and will dissipate a lot of that energy.
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If plastic meaning those THICC Rhinoshield types, I can actually concur with this. Unfortunately, scratch resistance wise (and even puncture resistance), seems plastic doesn't do as well as glass owing to the much lower hardness... you cant make plastic 6H no matter how hard (ehem) you try.
Source, I've been using Rhinoshield-alike protectors for quite a while, with my previous phones and now with the OP6 - though I recently moved on to a matte TGSP (well, technically a TGSP with a matte film bonded to it looks like).
As for thin plastic protectors, even the vinyl types, I'm pretty sure they're too thin to actually absorb anything TBH, but I can be wrong. Note that the guy in the video did say "plastic of equivalent thickness to a glass protector" being more resistant to impact.
On the flip side however, did you also factor in the dispersion of force when a glass protector breaks apart? That alone might already save the real stuff underneath from suffering the same fate under more realistic conditions (drops, minor impact), considering people don't usually go through the "huge-metal-ball-to-screen" thing in real life all that often.
eiraku said:
If plastic meaning those THICC Rhinoshield types, I can actually concur with this. Unfortunately, scratch resistance wise (and even puncture resistance), seems plastic doesn't do as well as glass owing to the much lower hardness... you cant make plastic 6H no matter how hard (ehem) you try.
Source, I've been using Rhinoshield-alike protectors for quite a while, with my previous phones and now with the OP6 - though I recently moved on to a matte TGSP (well, technically a TGSP with a matte film bonded to it looks like).
As for thin plastic protectors, even the vinyl types, I'm pretty sure they're too thin to actually absorb anything TBH, but I can be wrong. Note that the guy in the video did say "plastic of equivalent thickness to a glass protector" being more resistant to impact.
On the flip side however, did you also factor in the dispersion of force when a glass protector breaks apart? That alone might already save the real stuff underneath from suffering the same fate under more realistic conditions (drops, minor impact), considering people don't usually go through the "huge-metal-ball-to-screen" thing in real life all that often.
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I agree with what you said. All of these factors are important. I haven't done the tests myself, but when I saw the video, it reminded me of a sales rep at a Verizon store trying to sell me a glass screen protector over the plastic one, trying to convince me that glass is better than plastic for impact resistance. It didn't make sense at the time, and this video seems to confirm my initial gut reaction.
Hence the thread.
nabbed said:
I agree with what you said. All of these factors are important. I haven't done the tests myself, but when I saw the video, it reminded me of a sales rep at a Verizon store trying to sell me a glass screen protector over the plastic one, trying to convince me that glass is better than plastic for impact resistance. It didn't make sense at the time, and this video seems to confirm my initial gut reaction.
Hence the thread.
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Well, at least for impact resistance alone, yeah the guy might be wrong. But the guy was probably just trying to sell his stuff from a fact sheet and might not know any better either lol.
On the other hand, one still needs to keep in mind that we're not only trying to protect the screen against impact here. Scratches are probably an even worse problem TBH in day to day use. As such, in the end its probably best that materials use offer a good balance of impact AND scratch protection, which IMHO, a "properly designed" Glass protector "should" be able to do in a more balanced way then a Plastic one.
Although, if impact protection is ALL you need your screen protector to be good at, then yeah I'd say a thick plastic sheet protector like the Rhinoshield (and it's OEM brethren the X-One and the Rastabanana) is probably top dog.
This review is of the Schnail Savior Series Clear Case with Aluminum Frame Military Grade Full Body Protective Rugged Cover in Black for the Google Pixel 4 XL.
Overall I really like this case. I have been using it for the last few days, and I have to say that I am surprised. I normally use Spigen, Caseology and Otterbox cases, but I really liked the overall appearance of this case and wanted to try it out.
When I first received it, it came in two main pieces. The outer frame, which is a combination of aluminum and TPU, and then a hard plastic inner frame. Assembly is pretty straight forward. Clean your phone really well, insert the phone into the plastic inner case, and then nest it into the aluminum and TPU outer case. You will want to get a small flat tool of some sort to help the lip of the TPU surround on the aluminum frame to clear the plastic inner frame. I wish that a tool had come with the phone in order to do so, but I found that a toothpick worked just fine. Once nested together completely, the case has a extremely solid feel. There is no movement like I have experienced before with other nesting phone cases. While this means it can be a pain to disassemble and reassemble, it also means that if you drop it the case isn't likely to come apart.
The quality construction and build seems to be on par if not better than other well known brands that I have owned and used in the past. The use of the aluminum frame is implemented nicely, which just the right amount of exposure, but not so much that it makes the case slippery. The clear backing is nice thick, and the lens cut out accents the raised camera lens very well. The lip provided by the aluminum frame and the rubber/plastic surround gives ample distance from the glass, which means should I accidentally drop the phone, it should avoid cracking the screen unless I happen to land directly on a sharp corner or raised object that strikes the screen directly. If there is one con to this case, it would be the raised lip, especially if you are using the new "swipe to go back" feature that Google has implemented in Android 10. You can still swipe to go back, but there is a bit of learning curve as you will need to press your finger into the edge of the lip before attempting to swipe. I use my thumb to do so, and found that if I attempt to use the edge/side of the my thumb, it doesn't work as well as if I press my thumb flush before swiping. A small sacrifice to make in order to ensure if I drop this phone that the raised edge will protect the screen from harm.
All in all, this is a case that I can highly recommend and will be my daily driver over my Spigen Tough Armor.
So I was sent this case for review as well, and if OP doesn't mind, I would like to 2nd a lot of what is said here.
The case is difficult to put on, but once the case is on I feel like I could throw it off my roof, and have it survive. Not that I actually did that... I had to use a butter knife to get the inner frame under that lip all the way around the front/top, but once the case was on, it felt very solid. Its difficult to disassemble so hypothetically a big drop shouldn't split the case in 2 like some other 2 piece cases have a tendency to do. If I had JerryRigEverything money, I would have loved to test it like that. The camera is well protected by raised edges, but not actually covered. The screen isn't covered either (like a lifeproof case), but I'm ok with that, it means I can bring my own glass screen protector.
As far as look and feel, it is a bit bulky, but thats the price you pay for this much protection. I like the clear back, since Google makes such a big deal about their colors, its nice to still see the back of my phone. The buttons line up properly, and are a little mushy, but nowhere near as bad as some other big cases. I might be the only one who appreciates the little loop holes on the bottom right of the case for adding a wrist strap or something. A Peak Design anchor is probably going to live there forever now. Wireless charging still works, but your mileage might vary, it does add a tiny bit of distance between the charger and the phone. Like OP, I also found the raised lip around the edge of the screen to be a bit annoying, especially since gestures is the new Pixel default. The gestures are harder to use, and there is a learning curve, or just go back to using the soft buttons at the bottom.
Overall, if a lot of protection is what you're looking for in a case, I have no problem recommending this one! Pictures to come, I just haven't had time to get out my real camera and take any.
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What is aramid fiber? I don't know, please go look it up and be mindful of marketing.
Synthetic materials like carbon fiber, fiberglass, composite, aramid, kevlar, etc are just fun names for the same concept. You take strands of something really strong in one aspect but catastrophically fails if twisted or sheared or rubbed against itself. That's why you lay out all the fibers in certain directions then glue them in place and hope the glue prevents situations where the fibers are weak.
When you see aramid, think amine-based (nitrogen). Carbon alone (like in carbon fiber) blocks radio frequencies so no-go for phones. Nitrogen helps the fiber form similarly strong chains without RF obstruction that pure carbon sheet linkages cause. From what I've read, aramid is closer to kevlar but doesn't require the same tension for strength. Being 0.7mm thick, it's definitely not protective and you should only think of this as an alternative skin. From what I've read, the shock absorption is somewhere between glass and plastic. You are def getting worse drop protection than any real case.
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Ordered 2/7, received 2/26 (19 days, if math hard). I didn't take a picture of the box, but think fauxfiber-wrapped cardboard with foam inside. Sturdier than your Amazon package, closer to particle board tbh.
I paid $26 on aliexpress and would not recommend it if you need a case. I like the slim case but need a lip. I don't lay my display face down but still ... I love the rear, the button cutout is tolerable, and the lack of lip is a dealbreaker. I don't see any suitable alternatives so it's my daily for now.
Texture: the plastic feels amazing. Soft and grippy enough. My XPS 13 9360 has 1/10th the texture and is grippier. I have no complaints about the texture or grip and would not adjust either. It can be slippery for those concerned about that. After a week, it still looks and feels new. I'm not sure how scratch-resistamt this material is, but it definitely still feels superlative.
Finish: Minor variation/bumps at the corners. In general, straight lines are cut perfectly while rounded edges have small imperfections (<0.5mm). If you're struggling to see it in the photos, trust your eyes. I chose the camera cover variant for piece of mind (also comes in no-top/-bottom or camera-cut-out or both). You can see that small space, which I really don't like. I can feel the case creak a bit in that area, and am certain that harder-than-glass particles will accumulate and scratch the lens.
Installation: it's not terribly hard to install, but removal can be scary. The small bridge of plastic over my 3.5mm port shows some visual strain. It's not quite a crack, but the aramid plastic is clearly discolored in a fracture pattern. It only appeared when I began to very gently remove it (to take inside pics for you...).
Ergonomics: I don't like the exposed buttons but feel like cutouts would have caused problems. Hard to install/remove, prone to stress fracture were avoided by just cutting that section out. This is why we see so many cheap hard cases just omit the top and bottom. You lose a little protection and also lose a little headache.
Personally: I didn't just buy a case to protect my phone. I was rocking the very protective and great-feeling case temporarily while the aramid fiber was en route. It's big and bulky, but it feels amazing in the hand and I highly recommend it if you can grab it for under $10. This aramid fiber one is basically a skin, and I like the look and feel despite the lack of protection. I'm going to keep using it while I seek an alternative or addition for some screen protection. I don't hate screen protectors, but would prefer just an ultra-minimal 3d-printed bumper or something. This is a lot of concession and effort for a case I paid $26 for. I don't think a skin would be a suitable alternative, but for anyone interested I implore you to reconsider a slim plastic that that has top/bottom coverage. How do I truly feel: god damn does this case feel good. Forget a skin, the in-hand feel during use is amazing and I recognize that my phone is basically caseless. I'll put the rugged case over this one rather than risk breaking it from frequent removal.
Things I would change: LIP, smaller button cutout . I paid $5 for a small sheet of fake carbon fiber for wrapping cars and plan on using it to pad the gap in the camera hump. It may be too thick, or just right. I might just cut a tiny ring to "seal" the camera holes. I originally intended on surrounding the buttons so it would be more flush, but think the effort is not worth the payoff.
Other: I had the Totallee leather case for the last couple months on my 3 XL (was $8 new on amazon) and the cutouts were atrocious. After several hours with an exacto knife and a small flame, I made the buttons easier to use and the USB-C port accept my big, thick plugs. I think with those mods, that was my ideal case. Very slim but stiff, ~0.3mm lip (1mm would have been nice), and the leather rear feels fantastic while the edges are more durable plastic for daily use.
Any suggestion for a case with raised side lips to actually protect the screen?
Speaking from personal experience,all cases out there are pretty useless for facedown drop screen protection(UAG,Otterbox,Supcase included).I found only one with side raised lips. Temdan case.Any other similar case?
The Zizo Bolt series. Excellent drop protection.
That's all I use on my N10+'s.
I've used Ringke Fusion cases on my last two Samsung phones and they are great. Good Protection, raised edge so the screen nor the camera lenses will rest on a flat surface.
https://www.amazon.com/Ringke-Fusion-Compatible-Anti-Yellowing-Shockproof/dp/B09PMWCHHL?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1
I like clear cases to show off the really nice but slippery phone.
I have found that a lot of the cases that advertise screen protection like you want have the raised bezel on the top and bottom. But the sides are not raised. This does hold the screen off a table if put face down, but it does not offer even slight protection from bumping the side edges of the curved screen.
Will_T said:
I have found that a lot of the cases that advertise screen protection like you want have the raised bezel on the top and bottom. But the sides are not raised. This does hold the screen off a table if put face down, but it does not offer even slight protection from bumping the side edges of the curved screen.
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The Bolt does. These are tough cases.
The kickstand on the phone case tends to break with use but it's the only case I'll use on my N10+'s. Zero damage in over 2.5 years with multiple 2-4 foot drops onto concrete.
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owais0903 said:
Any suggestion for a case with raised side lips to actually protect the screen?
Speaking from personal experience,all cases out there are pretty useless for facedown drop screen protection(UAG,Otterbox,Supcase included).I found only one with side raised lips. Temdan case.Any other similar case?
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VRS case and Supcase UB have raised side lips.
owais0903 said:
Any suggestion for a case with raised side lips to actually protect the screen?
Speaking from personal experience,all cases out there are pretty useless for facedown drop screen protection(UAG,Otterbox,Supcase included).I found only one with side raised lips. Temdan case.Any other similar case?
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I had the Ottebox Defender Pro for the S20U. I also got it again for the S22U. The reason being it offers excellent drop protection. I have never seen a phone fall from any height and land screen down completely flat. It will hit one side or top or bottom first before resting flat.
Anyway the s20U had two mishaps where I knocked or dropped the phone accidentally onto the concrete kitchen floor at work. The s22U has hit the floor once so far. In all three cases there were no scratches or damage to the phone. Hell the case didn't even get scratched, knicked or sliced. I also don't use a screen protector. So that is testimony to the quality of the Product. I work in the Restaurant and Catering business which is a punishing environment. All the phones I have had in the past with Otter Box cases (Commuter and Defender) got traded-in to Samsung in pristine condition. The only negative about the Defender Pro is it will add some heft to your phone. But it's worth it to me.