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Hi,
I own a GT540 on Android 2.1.
I was wondering if it's possible use the FM radio without headset? It appears, on Windows Mobile, you can tweak the registry to allow this. Is there's a software level solution to make FM Radio work without headset on Android?
Yes, I'm aware that headset acts as an antenna and you need it to get a good reception. But, at times, it would be convenient to use the FM Radio without headset even if the signal is weak.
It's also possible to insert a fake plug to make it appear that a headset is present but am looking for a software solution.
On my Huawei U8110 it is enough to put in just jack, without any cables ... it works very well
DJ_Uro_UE said:
On my Huawei U8110 it is enough to put in just jack, without any cables ... it works very well
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Thanks. I know that just pushing something that fakes a headset is enough. But, am looking for a software solution.
hi ... i dnt knw yet any software like tht ... bt if u wnt to listen radio via wifi or 3g without headset so there is app called "tune In radio"
xperia9191 said:
hi ... i dnt knw yet any software like tht ... bt if u wnt to listen radio via wifi or 3g without headset so there is app called "tune In radio"
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Data is expensive here and wifi can taken granted only at home/school/office.
yes, Data is expensive. have been searching the same for awhile. no clue.
My previous Wm6.5(Aer S200) does the job.
still looking and waiting for solution
Hmm, I will try stalking AOSP when I get the time.
nibras_reeza said:
Hi,
I own a GT540 on Android 2.1.
I was wondering if it's possible use the FM radio without headset? It appears, on Windows Mobile, you can tweak the registry to allow this. Is there's a software level solution to make FM Radio work without headset on Android?
Yes, I'm aware that headset acts as an antenna and you need it to get a good reception. But, at times, it would be convenient to use the FM Radio without headset even if the signal is weak.
It's also possible to insert a fake plug to make it appear that a headset is present but am looking for a software solution.
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The app would have to support this, although hypothetically the system software could be modified to fool the app. Or if you could somehow crash or otherwise disable the code that detects headphone jack insertion events that could work.
I HAVE found this annoying with the HTC app. I've developed an FM app that doesn't have this restriction. See my sig for details.
On my HTC Legend I can receive some strong stations OK with no antenna. My HTC Desire HD does much better with no antenna.
FM radio and sampling.
This kind of post makes me wonder if sampling the mic input in some non periodic (not at an exact frequency) rate, and if the sample and hold before the ADC works fast enough, that the FM band maybe decoded by the correlation of multiple sample rates. For those without an FM radio. Exact timing of the sampling would be critical, so not sure if it could work on some devices. But anyhow, probly too much low pass on the mic input.
mikereidis said:
The app would have to support this, although hypothetically the system software could be modified to fool the app. Or if you could somehow crash or otherwise disable the code that detects headphone jack insertion events that could work.
I HAVE found this annoying with the HTC app. I've developed an FM app that doesn't have this restriction. See my sig for details.
On my HTC Legend I can receive some strong stations OK with no antenna. My HTC Desire HD does much better with no antenna.
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I tried your app but it doesn't work on my phone. Perhaps, the chipset is not supported? Do you have any idea where the trigger for headset is?
jackokring said:
This kind of post makes me wonder if sampling the mic input in some non periodic (not at an exact frequency) rate, and if the sample and hold before the ADC works fast enough, that the FM band maybe decoded by the correlation of multiple sample rates. For those without an FM radio. Exact timing of the sampling would be critical, so not sure if it could work on some devices. But anyhow, probly too much low pass on the mic input.
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Ok, was that greek? I seriously didn't get what you were saying.
duchmk and
my old xpress radio 5030 from nokia did that very well !
well, replying to the title,
is there any app/mod that can play FM without headset..?
thanks in advance.
Finally, this is possible or not..?? :/
hander13 said:
Finally, this is possible or not..?? :/
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I found it possible on my Galaxy Mini w cyanogen mod on Spirit Radio app. Signal was weak, but with bluetooth enabled it works perfectly. Now I want to have it with standard firmware, but it's impossible, because sound is going off after turning bluetooth on.
try this
this is spirit fm radio
Where can I find/buy a fake earplug to will trick my Samsung Galaxy Note II that a real headphone has plugged in?
nit3hawk said:
Where can I find/buy a fake earplug to will trick my Samsung Galaxy Note II that a real headphone has plugged in?
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i cant find singal...:/ but app is good
I found a very simple way to do this (at least on Sony Xperia with Android 6.0.1). Connect the headphones, open the stock radio app, tune to the frequency, then go to the Settings>Apps>FM Radio and click "Force Stop". Now you can unplug the headphones, the radio won't stop playing. The only problem with this is that you need to connect headphones to change the frequency.
Where to get app?
nibras_reeza said:
I tried your app but it doesn't work on my phone. Perhaps, the chipset is not supported? Do you have any idea whnere the trigger for headset is?
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Where can I get the app? Thanks!
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mikereidis said:
The app would have to support this, although hypothetically the system software could be modified to fool the app. Or if you could somehow crash or otherwise disable the code that detects headphone jack insertion events that could work.
I HAVE found this annoying with the HTC app. I've developed an FM app that doesn't have this restriction. See my sig for details.
On my HTC Legend I can receive some strong stations OK with no antenna. My HTC Desire HD does much better with no antenna.
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Where can I get the app? Thanks!
As I am a new user I can't post on specific thread so I post here my test
I installed Spirit PAK ver 01 07 and after turn on all device in my Nexus S I tried apk
Here some photos of test with stock ROM 2.3.4
It can be useful for developmetn ....
http :// imageshack.us/photo/my-images/27/dscf0009hc.jpg/
http :// imageshack.us/photo/my-images/18/dscf0011js.jpg/
http :// imageshack.us/photo/my-images/825/dscf0012su.jpg/
result : Signal are instable and no sound (
If can I help in some other way ....
The technical is in the next post.
Thanks for posting publicly. I prefer open discussion so that everyone can benefit and contribute.
I created my main thread in a forum dedicated to discussing apps, but didn't realise it was under a dev forum and thus users with less than 10 posts couldn't post. I wonder if I should create a 2nd thread...
You can't post full URLs either so here they are:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/27/dscf0009hc.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/18/dscf0011js.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/825/dscf0012su.jpg/
BTW, screenshots are great !
The short answer is I don't think the Nexus S is capable of receiving or transmitting FM, but I would never say never without hard proof.
I've been asked a few times over the last several months, and if I recall correctly, every time I've Googled the issue I found no evidence that anyone has EVER made FM work on the Nexus S.
I think my app is probably the closest it will get. It WILL manipulate the FM registers over HCI and it will look like it works, to some extent. But no audio, not even static, will be heard.
And there will be no indications of reception, like a more or less steady RSSI reading on strong channels, and RDS data.
Samsung manufactured this phone, and it seems to be a derivative of the Galaxy S. The Galaxy S, like the Nexus S, has an FM/BT/WiFi combo chip from Broadcom. The stock Galaxy S supports FM, but via a dedicated Silicon Labs FM chip, which the Nexus S does not seem to have. (BTW, the FmTwoO app also works on Galaxy S.)
AFAICT it's not possible to use the Broadcom chip for FM on the Nexus S. The antenna and audio connections are to the Silicon Labs chip and not to the matching pins on the Broadcom chip. If the Nexus S PCB/circuitry is reasonably similar to the Galaxy S, then it probably won't work on the Nexus S either.
There are two Samsung devices that I've been trying to help owners get FM working on. that have a Broadcom chip, but no other chip. Thus far we've had no success with either the Galaxy Tab, or the Spica i5700. There are two problems:
(1) The RSSI signal strength shows strange values and may jump around. I think this is due to no antenna connection and/or some FM RF power pins may not be connected.
(2) No analog audio output has been achieved, not even static, despite trying the 8 or so Audio Methods my app currently supports, and ALSA as well.
(2) might be fixable if I ever achieve digital audio transfer or even direct audio to BT headsets within the chip.
But (1) might only be fixable with much investigation and soldering etc.
Sorry... I'd love to find out I'm wrong about this.
Other info for BCM4329 chip :
http :// www . datasheetdir.com/BCM4329+download
in these datasheet we can read
Code:
Host Interface support
- Host Controller Interface (HCI): High-speed UART
-Audio: PCM
- FM Control: HCI and BSC (I2C-compliant) ports
- FM Audio: Stereo analog input and output, bidirectional
I2S, and PCM ports
In schematic we can notice BT and wifi use same ant , FM has dedicated one ....
But SPI / I2C / I2s are the same of BT and WIFI so it's possible to comunicate with FM part in chip with no problem ....
Code:
FMHost Interface: High-speed UART, I2C for control
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if not mistaken spirit apk use only HCI .... not I2C !
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FMHost Interface: High-speed UART, I2C for control
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if not mistaken spirit apk use only HCI .... not I2C !
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All devices that uses the combo chip for Bluetooth support the HCI UART interface. That can be accessed via the BT stack or directly by reasonably standard and common methods.
I don't know what fraction of devices can use the other interface, but some don't. I believe the Galaxy Tab schematic showed a digital connection to the Wolfson audio chip...
The next issue would be accessing the interface, and I think that would require a device driver. If I wanted to support multiple devices and kernels by this method I'd have to create multiple device drivers.
So even if possible, I think the work required would be excessive.
But if somebody can figure this out, I'd be happy to hear about it.
EDIT: A digital audio connection MAY not be as hard as I envision, at least for some devices.
IF the ROM supports a digital / "SCO" connection to the chip, it might be possible to call an audio API to set this up.
I haven't worked with these SCO connections yet, so I don't know how easy or feasible it is, but I'll try to find out.
Hi mikereidis, I don't want flooding to be able write on developers section, as well be superfluous create a new topic on the DroidX tree so I would write here...
I tried the latest SpiritFM version on DroidX CM7. Several times I was able tune to the pre-programmed frequency and receive audio using FM_launch method. In most cases, I only get noise. To get the sound the speaker/headphones button should on and then off. Without such manipulation sound does not appear.
The big problem is that your program give low radio sensitivity. This is not a hardware problem because stock FM program allows 15 radiostations on the my area.
I also tried FM_launch2 but without success.
Here is the catlog with FM_launch, and then FM_launch2. I'm also ready to provide any logs or make any test if it helps you improve SpiritFM for Motorola phones.
evgenln said:
Hi mikereidis, I don't want flooding to be able write on developers section, as well be superfluous create a new topic on the DroidX tree so I would write here...
I tried the latest SpiritFM version on DroidX CM7. Several times I was able tune to the pre-programmed frequency and receive audio using FM_launch method. In most cases, I only get noise. To get the sound the speaker/headphones button should on and then off. Without such manipulation sound does not appear.
The big problem is that your program give low radio sensitivity. This is not a hardware problem because stock FM program allows 15 radiostations on the my area.
I also tried FM_launch2 but without success.
Here is the catlog with FM_launch, and then FM_launch2. I'm also ready to provide any logs or make any test if it helps you improve SpiritFM for Motorola phones.
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Thanks for the log evgenln. I'll let you know what I find.
Some other people have enabled audio by toggling speaker/headset. It would be a hack, but perhaps I can create an option that toggles it automatically. But it would be better if I figure out what's happening, and fix it right.
Regarding signal strength: My guess would be that there is a function call required to enable the FM antenna, and that you are receiving without an antenna. I'll try to find out.
But since the headphone cable is the antenna, it's possible this is related to audio issues.
evgenln said:
I tried the latest SpiritFM version on DroidX CM7. Several times I was able tune to the pre-programmed frequency and receive audio using FM_launch method. In most cases, I only get noise.
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It appears something has broken horribly for Texas Instruments FM chips. I can confirm the same errors you are having on my HTC Legend.
I can trigger the errors when I switch headset to speaker, and I'm not sure why yet.
Most phones have Broadcom chips, but I still don't understand why I haven't seen this problem before; it seems to go back at least a month.
Regardless, I've found a workaround that I hope will also work for you. If you deny SuperUser privileges to the app it will use hcitool instead of the daemon. It will consume more CPU/power when RDS is working and the screen is on though.
So, open the SuperUser app and select Spirit FM Radio and press Forget.
Then restart the app and when SuperUser asks for permission, select Deny and Remember.
Let me know, thanks !
I will determine the root cause and a fix.
Here's a preferable workaround for TI chip devices (and reason I wasn't seeing this issue).
This operation is useful for Broadcom based devices on CyanogenMod also because CM tries to use hcitool to set FM volume, so this can avoid some interference:
Remove or rename the hcitool binary. During audio switching, CyanogenMod (and likely some derivative ROMs) calls hcitool for some reason. This causes problems in the daemon mode.
The downside to this is that the CM FM app won't work.
I do this:
adb remount
adb shell mv /system/xbin/hcitool /system/xbin/hcitoo
My app can still use "hcitoo" if needed.
mikereidis said:
I do this:
adb remount
adb shell mv /system/xbin/hcitool /system/xbin/hcitoo
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I tried this but without success. Still have on and then off the speaker/headphones button to get the sound.
In the attached files logs for the stock FM applications running on stock moto 2.2 and for the current SpiritFM on CM7.
evgenln said:
I tried this but without success. Still have on and then off the speaker/headphones button to get the sound.
In the attached files logs for the stock FM applications running on stock moto 2.2 and for the current SpiritFM on CM7.
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OK thanks, I'm looking now.
To respond to your PM about Regional Band Russia frequency steps, it works OK for me as 100 KHz.
It's harder to see now though because the frequency up and down buttons have been removed in favor of the graphic thumbwheel. If you carefully nudge the thumbwheel you can see frequency move 0.1 MHz at a time, while for North America it's 0.2 MHz and odd frequencies.
The frequency step for seek might have a problem; it's done by the chip and there may be a problem there.
evgenln said:
I tried this but without success. Still have on and then off the speaker/headphones button to get the sound.
In the attached files logs for the stock FM applications running on stock moto 2.2 and for the current SpiritFM on CM7.
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I've started a new thread here that should work for people with less than 10 posts: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15607830
Technically it's in a paid app forum and it's technically for the paid Unlocker (converts free app to paid app), but unless some moderator decides it's a really bad idea it's open for discussion of the free app also.
I have been talking to the developer of the Spirit FM Radio app. For those who don't know about this app, on certain devices you can use the bluetooth chip to receive FM radio. Well anyhow it looks like this tab does not have this capability.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21723081&postcount=2110
painter_ said:
I have been talking to the developer of the Spirit FM Radio app. For those who don't know about this app, on certain devices you can use the bluetooth chip to receive FM radio. Well anyhow it looks like this tab does not have this capability.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21723081&postcount=2110
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Just a bluetooth & fm are built in the one chip, therefore they enabled same time
Hi, I have a question for all of you.
I bought an Irulu 7 tablet that was advertised as not bluetooth compatible, and i decided to look at all the apps, and on all apps section I found an app called "Bluetooth Share". I was wondering, since it doesn't have any other hint of bluetooth capability, if I could get an app that would enable bluetooth on it?
Bluetooth is a piece of hardware. If the tablet doesnt support bluetooth then there is at least a 99% certainty that it does not have the bluetooth hardware. That is not something which can be rectified with an app.
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Bluetooth is a piece of hardware. If the tablet doesnt support bluetooth then there is at least a 99% certainty that it does not have the bluetooth hardware. That is not something which can be rectified with an app.
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Ok, is there a way to check if i have the bluetooth hardware, or is it a bug with the os that an app called bluetooth share is on the tablet?
The stock fm radio seems to be not working, it opens up and scans and finds the channels just fine but I can hear nothing at all (headphones are of course connected). I've also tried to check it in safe mode but it's not working. Anyone experiencing the same or got any solution (don't tell me to use another app).
UPDATE: The google app search from any screen causes this issue, turn it off and the radio will work fine.
FM working like a charm in my BLN-L21 using stock app.
Do your headphones have controls on their cable?
If not, that might be the problem. My car aux also did not work until i ordered a male to male aux cable with controls.
Other phones work fine with any aux cable.
Mvs1989 said:
Do your headphones have controls on their cable?
If not, that might be the problem. My car aux also did not work until i ordered a male to male aux cable with controls.
Other phones work fine with any aux cable.
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Yes I do have controls on them, they are the earphones that come in the box.
working fine on BLN-AL10 model also
Works fine...no issues
I didn't even know that the Honor 6X had a FM radio...
DarkGuyver said:
I didn't even know that the Honor 6X had a FM radio...
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It does have
DarkGuyver said:
I didn't even know that the Honor 6X had a FM radio...
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It has...
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It has...
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What about yje battery life???
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What about yje battery life???
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Can stretch upto 10 hours...on regular basis 7+ hours SOT and 1+ day standby easily
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Can stretch upto 10 hours...on regular basis 7+ hours SOT and 1+ day standby easily
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Thats good
I am also facing same issue
FM Radio in Honor 6x does scan all the local radio stations but no audio either from ear phone or speaker. Request to let me know how to turn off google app search . I did it in my phone but looks like not working, May be I am doing something wrong.
Just try it with other earpiece . It works fine . Same thing happened to me
There is a conflict with the radio and the google voice detection
Switch of the option in google parameter and it should work
Envoyé de mon BLN-L21 en utilisant Tapatalk
Same issue with my Honor 6X too
zekarlito said:
There is a conflict with the radio and the google voice detection
Switch of the option in google parameter and it should work
Envoyé de mon BLN-L21 en utilisant Tapatalk
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Hi All I too am facing the same issue. Can you suggest another app or how to disable the google app search from any screen as per the "UPDATE: The google app search from any screen causes this issue, turn it off and the radio will work fine." The reason being that I have enabled Google Assistant and the Voice Detection just wont get disabled. Even if I try, it comes back on. Is there any other app you can suggest as a workaround? TIA.
Found a workaround
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Hi All I too am facing the same issue. Can you suggest another app or how to disable the google app search from any screen as per the "UPDATE: The google app search from any screen causes this issue, turn it off and the radio will work fine." The reason being that I have enabled Google Assistant and the Voice Detection just wont get disabled. Even if I try, it comes back on. Is there any other app you can suggest as a workaround? TIA.
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For those who have enabled Google Assistant and have the "OK Google" detection ON, it was seen that if you open the Radio app, you will not be able to hear any sound although the equalizer will be showing graphics as though it is playing some music. This is probably to do with the initial mention of "UPDATE: The google app search from any screen causes this issue, turn it off and the radio will work fine." I was unable to get this turned OFF or needed the functionality. However, I figured out that after you have opened the Radio App and switched ON your channel, if you lock your screen, the sound will be back ON and you will be able to listen to FM Radio. No need for any 3rd party app or any other setting change. Perhaps this will be all be anyway fixed in Nougat....Fingers crossed!
Hold the home key.then google assistant popups.press 3 dot button.go to settings.go to ok google detection and turn it off.radio will work fine then.
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Turn off Google voice recognition
I had the same problem
solved it by turning off the voice recognition by google search "OK Google"
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