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Hey all,
Has anyone used the Apple Macbook's 29W charger with their Pixel C? - Any thoughts? did it charge at a higher rate over the standard 15W?
On the same note, anyone tried with the Chromebook Pixel's 60W charger?
I notice Google sells a universal type-C 60W charger but it says the maximum current is 3A, either at 5V, 12V or 20V. I suspect this means it's not going to charge the Pixel any faster since it probably just takes the 5V output.
I would be very cautious of any Type C chargers and cables. I have learned a lot from reading the reviews and google posts from Benson Leung. He keeps a list of devices and cables that he has tested.
https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung
Anyone use a Targus APA93US APA93 45W Type-C Charger? (Currently on sale at Best Buy for $30. Same on Amazon for prime members)
EDIT: I asked Benson Leung, he worked with the Google Pixel C team and says the charger is PD, although before PD rules were set. So it is missing 9V. But assures me that the Pixel C can also make use of it's capabilities using the 12V/2A to get max fast charge of 24W which is what the Pixel C can use.
Does anyone else have the Motorola TurboPower 30? It is compatible with the MACbook using 5V/5A, wonder if the Pixel C can negotiate, it seems to have a proprietary Power Delivery.
UPDATE: I've tested it. It can only negotiate 5V/3A 15W~ max.
2xbass said:
I notice Google sells a universal type-C 60W charger but it says the maximum current is 3A, either at 5V, 12V or 20V. I suspect this means it's not going to charge the Pixel any faster since it probably just takes the 5V output.
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According to Benson Leung, which worked on the Pixel C at google, it can do 9V/2.67A or alternatively use 12V/2A. Which ever the usb type-c PD charger is capable of. The Pixel C can make use of up to 24W max for fast charging with compatible Power Delivery Chargers.
http://www.usb.org/developers/powerdelivery/PD_1.0_Introduction.pdf
http://electronicdesign.com/interconnects/introduction-usb-power-delivery
UPDATE: I've used the Targus APA93US 45W USB Type-C wall charger and it can negotiate 12V/2A 24.5W~ providing 33% more charging speed. Great for $30 at best buy or prime.
I recently bought this OEM Verizon / Xentris charger XENTVLPD-XX1 / TYPECPDQC3TVL on eBay for $8~ YMMV http://www.ebay.com/itm/351967678957
It can handle 5v/3a 7v/3a 8v/3a 9v/2.7a 12v/2a which is ideal for "faster" charging the Pixel C at 24W max, 33% over stock/OEM charger.
Received both my OEM and Original Verizon / Xentris chargers
XENTVLPD-XX1 / TYPEC27PDQC3TVL today and went to town doing some simple testing with various cables. With screen on it charges at about 15-16W with the screen off it ramps up to 24-25W. It's compact and very sturdy.
My conclusion is, if you're looking for a USB Type-C charger capable of Power Delivery, look no further. This is excellent and for the price $8~ shipped is an incredible deal. I bought mine from this listing on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/351967678957
Hi,
Just wanted to share my experience with adaptive/fast chargers.
Recently purchased four different manufacturers chargers from Amazon in an attempt to find one that would live up to its claims of charging at the maximum capacity of the phones battery and be an improvement over the stock charger.
The chargers were tested using an Xperia Z2, Samsung Galaxy S6 and an Xperia Tablet Z.
Below are the four that were purchased:
- AUKEY Wall Charger 3 Ports 30W / 6A USB Travel Adapter
- TeckNet® PowerZone C3 Universal BLUETEK™ USB-C Power Adapter 24W/5V 4.8A 4 Port USB Wall Charger
- Tronsmart 42W 3-Port USB Wall Charger
- Orico 30W 6A 4-Port Mains USB Charger
Initially I tested each charger using Ampere(Play Store) and though the results varied, none of the chargers seemed to output more than 500-850ma. I also noted that in the Ampere App, the Max USB current value was set at 1000ma for all four chargers. When using the stock Sony or Samsung Apaptive Charger, the Max USB current was detected correctly at 1500ma and while the Sony 1500ma charger only ever managed an output of 950-1100ma, the Samsung 2000ma charger managed an output of 1300-1400ma.
With the varying results using Ampere I purchased an inline USB current meter (). I had sent the first three chargers back by this point but still had the Orico.
Using the inline current meter I found it more accurate and if it was showing a reading of 1000ma, Ampere would show anywhere between 200-700ma which makes me wonder how accurate the Ampere App actually is.
Using the inline meter the Orico could only supply 950-1100ma. Given each port is claimed to output upto 2.4 amps I would have expected it to at least get close to 1500ma.
In the end I purchased a cheap Foxconn dual port 2000ma charger and using the inline meter it showed 1400-1500ma.
Not even the Tronsmart which comes with a Quickcharge 2.0 port could manage more than 1100ma on either the Z2 or S6.
I don't really know what all this means but it seems all these manufacturers are maybe using the same internals and the adaptive charging is detecting only 1000ma on the devices I tested them with.
A frustrating experience to find a fast charger but I hope this information is helpful to others and I'd be interested to hear others opinions/experiences with such chargers.
This was my first post so apologies if its not in the right section.
Thanks
I think, Fast charge need to be enabled in the kernel, did you try that
I've got about five of the 25W Turbochargers that I used to power my Moto X Pure. I've got some adapters to use for the USB-C connection but I'm worried about whether the 25W Turbocharger is too much for the Moto Z simply because it came with a 15W Turbocharger.
Can someone shine some light on this?
Thank you.
By using an adapter I believe your charging speed will be reduced anyway. I don't believe turbocharging works using an adapter.
The technologies are different. The Moto X Pure "Turbo Charger" used Quick Charge 2.0 (qualcomm) and the max wattage is derived by upping the volts to 12 and amps to 2.15 ~ 25 watts. USB-C doesn't allow this. Qualcomm uses the data lines to signal the voltage changes. Your 25W Turbo charger also does 5V @2.8A (max) - and the USB-C spec only supports 5V. The Z TurboCharger is just a standard USB-C charger that can put out 3A at 5V.
If you use a converter on your 25W Turbo Charger, it will never supply more then the [email protected] 2.85A, but likely less as the phone may only see it as a standard charger. It will charge faster as it probably will supply about 2Amps. But it probably won't be as fast as the USB-C Turbocharger. USB-C has extra signaling lines that the older Micro-USB doesn't have.
chromedome00 said:
The technologies are different. The Moto X Pure "Turbo Charger" used Quick Charge 2.0 (qualcomm) and the max wattage is derived by upping the volts to 12 and amps to 2.15 ~ 25 watts. USB-C doesn't allow this. Qualcomm uses the data lines to signal the voltage changes. Your 25W Turbo charger also does 5V @2.8A (max) - and the USB-C spec only supports 5V. The Z TurboCharger is just a standard USB-C charger that can put out 3A at 5V.
If you use a converter on your 25W Turbo Charger, it will never supply more then the [email protected] 2.85A, but likely less as the phone may only see it as a standard charger. It will charge faster as it probably will supply about 2Amps. But it probably won't be as fast as the USB-C Turbocharger. USB-C has extra signaling lines that the older Micro-USB doesn't have.
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Thank you. I picked up an Anker adapter and you're right. It does charge at a decent speed, I'm assuming it is getting the 2A - but definitely no TurboPower here.
I'm a little sad that I invested so much in chargers and backup battery packs that would Turbocharge my Moto X Pure.
I didn't realize USB-C was that much more than just a plug change.
Hi,
Is it possible to get the Turbo-Charging (30W) With other PD Chargers?
I got a 30W Blitzwolf charger (20V1.5A) with PD3.0 protocol, a 60W usbc to usbc cable,
and I only get 18W "Fast charging" in the phone. Where's the problem?
This phone is 10V3A. 30W may not compatible with pd.
as writen on gsmareana (SEE PIC) the mi note 10 uses the usb PD standard.
https://ibb.co/k5fp9tk
So why isn't PD chargers working at full speed ??
Also,
Where Can I buy the original Charger and Cable?
Again, PD's 30W is 20V1.5A, but Xiaomi's 30W is 10V3A. They are not fully compatible.
I guess PD support is limited to 18W or 27W.
Does anyone know if Xiaomi has a car charger that is 30W 10V3a?
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Again, PD's 30W is 20V1.5A, but Xiaomi's 30W is 10V3A. They are not fully compatible.
I guess PD support is limited to 18W or 27W.
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Yah, you're right ... (I'm getting 18W MAX)
Weird thing is I can't find the original charger anywhere online !
I checked the original and PD charger. Original gives you 20 watts and PD 17 watts, so the difference is quite marginal. Interesting enough the only difference is amps, they both give out around 9 Volts but from PD it only draws 1,9 A even though it can give 3A (mine is rated 20V/3A). Also most USB PD chargers out there support 5-20V output with stepless adjustment but I don't think they take advantage of that.
I would have pictures to attach but for some reason can't on this forum.
so any way to get that 30, or at least 27W charging?
like even buying a new charger
or maybe flashing a custrom ROM/kernel?
ond96 said:
so any way to get that 30, or at least 27W charging?
like even buying a new charger
or maybe flashing a custrom ROM/kernel?
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Bet it would be possible but requires action from xiaomi or at least custom rom at the moment. I don't get why they advertise it falsely. It would be even possible to get more from USB PD as they don't draw the same power as from their own charger, even though it would be completely possible by the specifications.
Hi,
Does the USB cable which is inside the box, support fast charge or I need to buy a new cable to enjoy 45w power delivery fast charge?
Thanks for your reply
It does. it might be a hit and miss unless a Samsung charger
raul6 said:
It does. it might be a hit and miss unless a Samsung charger
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I'm not buying a Samsung charger, so should I buy a new cable?
Actually, I am planning to buy one of these chargers, which one do you think is better? more powerful?
https://www.aukey.com/products/omnia-duo-65w-dual-port-pd-charger-with-dynamic-detect
https://www.ravpower.com/products/rp-pc133-pd-gan-65wusb-c-wall-charger#!
https://ldnio.com/products/a2620c-65w-pd-qc-3-0-usb-type-c-high-power-charger-adapter
https://www.aukey.com/products/aukey-pa-b3-omnia-65w-fast-usb-c-charger
Any charger that supports PPS will do fine. The USB cable should have an emarker circuit (the boxed cable does).
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Any charger that supports PPS will do fine. The USB cable should have an emarker circuit (the boxed cable does).
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I couldn't find whether the adaptors above, do support pps or nor! Have you got any suggestions?
I suppose you could look for reviews or discussions on those particular adapters or search for detailed specifications. Or search Amazon or generally for adapters with keywords PD 3.0 and PPS. Most modern power adapters usually specifically point out PPS support in their specs.
SloPoke23 said:
I suppose you could look for reviews or discussions on those particular adapters or search for detailed specifications. Or search Amazon or generally for adapters with keywords PD 3.0 and PPS. Most modern power adapters usually specifically point out PPS support in their specs.
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The links above do not include any information whether these chargers support pps, although they are good gadgets.
I have had issues with trying to find a 45watt charger which will charge the S22u at the Super Fast Charge 2.0 rate. I probably ordered 5 different chargers and none of them would work @45 watts even though they supported the PD 3.0 PPS standard. When I contacted one company support team they said Samsung tweaked the PPS standard for the S22u.
As it turned out, I had an Elecjet 65w charger that charges my S22u at the 45w Super Fast Charge 2.0 rate. While they no longer sell that charger, they have a newer 45w version that does support the S22u (several Amazon reviews confirmed this).
https://www.amazon.com/ELECJET-Charging-Charger-Compatible-Samsung/dp/B084Q2CZG6/ref=mp_s_a_1_11_sspa?crid=1TAJ5U5PIBF89&keywords=65w+phone+charger+elecjet&qid=1655176242&sprefix=65w+phone+charger+elecjet%2Caps%2C117&sr=8-11-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFOVFcxMEYwMjBSOTgmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTAzOTAyMzYxUlJDM0ZGUk1ZUzI4JmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA3MTI5MzIyTjE2VzRCQVZCTktQJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfcGhvbmVfc2VhcmNoX210ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
Links to a car charger with PD + PPS would be good
7 And Still Growing said:
Links to a car charger with PD + PPS would be good
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I have this charger and it's fantastic; I get super fast charging through the usb c port, and regular fast charging through the usb a port.
AUKEY CC-A3 Dual-Port(USB-C/USB-A) Car Charger - 30W
Buy Our High-Speed Charging-Powerful Single Port 30w Charging for Smartphones, Tablets, and Even Small Laptops. Free Shipping on All Orders Over $25
www.aukey.com
I've got 2 of these chargers which do Samsung Super Fast charging (25watt) from the Usb-c port and Fast Charging from the Usb-A port.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08YWLW6B2?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
jasin91 said:
I'm not buying a Samsung charger, so should I buy a new cable?
Actually, I am planning to buy one of these chargers, which one do you think is better? more powerful?
https://www.aukey.com/products/omnia-duo-65w-dual-port-pd-charger-with-dynamic-detect
https://www.ravpower.com/products/rp-pc133-pd-gan-65wusb-c-wall-charger#!
https://ldnio.com/products/a2620c-65w-pd-qc-3-0-usb-type-c-high-power-charger-adapter
https://www.aukey.com/products/aukey-pa-b3-omnia-65w-fast-usb-c-charger
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The cable should be fine. The cables I'm still using that was included with my s21 and LG V60 both provide Super Fast Charging when paired with a capable charging block. Anything from aukey, ugreen, ravpower rated for PD 3.0 and Super Fast should be fine. Samsung has a conservative charging system compared to the Chinese brand phones from Hauwei, Xiaomi, and Realme.
I have a BASEUS 100W GAN charger that works with the Samsung S22U. It's standard PPS. Also some noname 120W GAN charging hub I bought from AliExpress. Both indicate Superfast Charging 2.0 on the S22U when I plug them in.
SloPoke23 said:
I have a BASEUS 100W GAN charger that works with the Samsung S22U. It's standard PPS. Also some noname 120W GAN charging hub I bought from AliExpress. Both indicate Superfast Charging 2.0 on the S22U when I plug them in.
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Can you leave the link to your Baseus charger?
mc_365 said:
The cable should be fine. The cables I'm still using that was included with my s21 and LG V60 both provide Super Fast Charging when paired with a capable charging block. Anything from aukey, ugreen, ravpower rated for PD 3.0 and Super Fast should be fine. Samsung has a conservative charging system compared to the Chinese brand phones from Hauwei, Xiaomi, and Realme.
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I was going to buy either Aukey or RavPower but the PPS is not mentioned in the specifications!!!! What should I buy?!
Rubby1025 said:
I have had issues with trying to find a 45watt charger which will charge the S22u at the Super Fast Charge 2.0 rate. I probably ordered 5 different chargers and none of them would work @45 watts even though they supported the PD 3.0 PPS standard. When I contacted one company support team they said Samsung tweaked the PPS standard for the S22u.
As it turned out, I had an Elecjet 65w charger that charges my S22u at the 45w Super Fast Charge 2.0 rate. While they no longer sell that charger, they have a newer 45w version that does support the S22u (several Amazon reviews confirmed this).
https://www.amazon.com/ELECJET-Charging-Charger-Compatible-Samsung/dp/B084Q2CZG6/ref=mp_s_a_1_11_sspa?crid=1TAJ5U5PIBF89&keywords=65w+phone+charger+elecjet&qid=1655176242&sprefix=65w+phone+charger+elecjet%2Caps%2C117&sr=8-11-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFOVFcxMEYwMjBSOTgmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTAzOTAyMzYxUlJDM0ZGUk1ZUzI4JmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA3MTI5MzIyTjE2VzRCQVZCTktQJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfcGhvbmVfc2VhcmNoX210ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
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That seems to be a good charger, but I cannot find one in my country, Iran. There are some good adaptors including Anker, Baseus, Aukey, Ravpower, Mcdodo, and so on but I could not find whether they do support PPS.
jasin91 said:
Can you leave the link to your Baseus charger?
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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002037978734.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.3e9518024NsdU7
It's not exactly cheap but it supports every charging protocol that I know of.
Also available at US site, unless you want white: https://us.baseus.com/p/baseus-gan2-pro-quick-charger-2c-2u-100w-9
Update: Amazon too.
SloPoke23 said:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002037978734.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.3e9518024NsdU7
It's not exactly cheap but it supports every charging protocol that I know of.
Also available at US site, unless you want white: https://us.baseus.com/p/baseus-gan2-pro-quick-charger-2c-2u-100w-9
Update: Amazon too.
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Thanks for the link, but I could find the following charger available in the market:
Baseus GaN2 3 Ports Fast Charger 65W
Baseus 65W 3 Port foldable USB C charger is 3x faster than original 5W charger while supporting 8 kinds of fast-charging protocols including 45W Samsung Super Fast Charging.
us.baseus.com
It is not cheap, but I think it's good. Should I buy this one? (And not the ones I provided the link in my first message? I mean Aukey or RavPower)
jasin91 said:
Thanks for the link, but I could find the following charger available in the market:
Baseus GaN2 3 Ports Fast Charger 65W
Baseus 65W 3 Port foldable USB C charger is 3x faster than original 5W charger while supporting 8 kinds of fast-charging protocols including 45W Samsung Super Fast Charging.
us.baseus.com
It is not cheap, but I think it's good. Should I buy this one? (And not the ones I provided the link in my first message? I mean Aukey or RavPower)
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Does this Baseus GaN2 Pro support SUPERfast charging? Because I heard that superfast charging is different from fast charging.
jasin91 said:
I was going to buy either Aukey or RavPower but the PPS is not mentioned in the specifications!!!! What should I buy?!
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The reality is a 100% fully supported charging brick and cable will only get you a < 10 min decrease in charging from 0 - 100%. With most of the speed gains in the 0 - 50% time being reduce by like 6 minutes and then being pretty much negligible after, as the phone throttles to protect the battery from overheating.
To get everything you probably would need to go with the Baseus.
https://a.co/d/17Oxq7U
and
https://a.co/d/7OIbSPf
or get the most purchesd (implying some reliability) 100w PD 3.0 charger and use the cables you have and get 90% the same results with Superfast Charge vs Superfast Charge 2.0