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Mi4c Camera issues (blurry in low/fluorescent light)

After purchasing the Mi4c and waiting for it for three weeks, I keenly unboxed it and started tweaking the living hell out of it. Among others I installed several Google apps, the google account manager (switch off sync in China as it will draaaain your battery), and MIUI 5.10.16 dev. So far so good.
However, when I tried the camera, the online shots of which were very promising, I was so disappointed I ordered the Nexus 5X straight away. In any circumstance that isn't sunny, the rear-facing camera will perform horribly. What I mean is that, unless you stabilize the phone securely with two hands, any shot in a fluorescent light or otherwise slightly dim environment will result in heavy blur. As if you were shaking the phone while you took the shot. Comparing with the Nexus 5 (2013), where you could take a shot from your wrist while riding a bicycle and still have an acceptable result.
Can anyone else confirm? Do I have the worse of two sensors, is it just the tiny objective, or is it software-related? Or is it just what I should learn to accept from a 1500 RMB phone?

Hello mate,
this is what you should learn from a 1500 RMB phone, camera sux as soon as conditions are not optimum. Tried a lot of apps, but the results is still the same. Some apps will focus better though (lenovo super camera v5 for instance).
Nevertheless, a part from the camera, the phone is way better with CM12.1 than the nexus 5X which handle apps horribly again... Very slow to open and reload apps. Which is kind of a big deal.

upload some pics if possible..
let's see it...

Maybe the camera app just sucks hard? You should try others to compare...

These are all shot from the wrist with minimal effort at stabilizing, the way I used to snap pictures with my Nexus 5

Try to take a few indoor shots with a steady hand. It could be that the software uses a quite long shutter time, which results in a blurry shot if the hand isn't steady.
The second step would be: manually set the shutter time according to your preference.

Sure, steadying the phone entirely will work. But that's not really a solution, as you often take a quick snap, the device is light and therefore in almost all situations your hand will be unsteady. It felt like the nexus5 was able to use shorter shutter times in low-light conditions and took steady pictures almost all of the time.

potentially a software problem; after flashing CM Rom the camera improved significantly (also switched from N5 to 4C)

agreed, it got significantly better with the CM rom. Still fairly noisy and a little blurry though. Looks like the camera app (I use Google Camera 4.0) actually takes its time to focus rather than attempting to deliver the quickest shot possible.

bluppfisk said:
agreed, it got significantly better with the CM rom. Still fairly noisy and a little blurry though. Looks like the camera app (I use Google Camera 4.0) actually takes its time to focus rather than attempting to deliver the quickest shot possible.
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Can you check which sensor you have please
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-4c/general/camera-sensor-sony-samsung-t3213510/page4

ermacwins said:
Can you check which sensor you have please
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-4c/general/camera-sensor-sony-samsung-t3213510/page4
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He already has, yesterday

Maybe we can have some more samples from another camera app ? We know you have the Sony sensor now, it could be interesting to see if someone has a Samsung one and how is it different in picture quality.

Here are some, as your see low light ones aren't very good and blurred. But even the sunlight ones are a little grainy and not perfectly crisp. Sony sensor.

bluppfisk said:
Here are some, as your see low light ones aren't very good and blurred. But even the sunlight ones are a little grainy and not perfectly crisp. Sony sensor.
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Ok thanks ! And this is with the MIUI app ?

No the last batch was with CM

I created a post on official eu.xiaomi.com about this bug, if you can, please, confim in "bug" section of xiaomi mi4c

link?

http://en.miui.com/thread-180040-1-1.html
Inviato dal mio Mi-4c utilizzando Tapatalk

So, i'm really very confused now... someone says it is very great (e.g. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63730763&postcount=44) and you say it is bad and open a bug!
I would prefer great camera and battery over LTE band 20, but here i don't understand yet if mi4c have or not great camera... Can you please help me understand? Thanks

Well... Depends by user.. 50% say camera is awesome 50% not - You can see something like this on many phones

Outdoor visibility (max brightness)

Rate this thread to express how well you can see the OnePlus 5's display outdoors. In case you've been playing Minecraft for 18 months straight, you might not known how to get outside anymore. Well, find the door and walk through it. A higher rating indicates that it has very high maximum brightness and thus fantastic outdoor visibility in direct sunlight.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I find I fairly often have to adjust it to its brightest (when the automatic adjustment hasn't) in full sun.

No issues here, screen is superb.
Very few issues with this phone, camera when compared to my last phone.

What I would like to have was a better access to the brightness bar. Instead of two swipe downs from the status bar, something more easy and pratical to just quick change the brightness.
Some AOSP roms had swiping on the status bar to change the brightness.

gonsa said:
What I would like to have was a better access to the brightness bar. Instead of two swipe downs from the status bar, something more easy and pratical to just quick change the brightness.
Some AOSP roms had swiping on the status bar to change the brightness.
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You can swipe down with two fingers.

Personally visibility on sun is not that good as I had on OnePlus One or atleast I can't read nothing not direct sun. :/

I asked on other threads about screen legibility, and many owners told me that it's perfect readable under direct sunlight, even more than Mate 9.
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Csetoue said:
I asked on other threads about screen legibility, and many owners told me that it's perfect readable under direct sunlight, even more than Mate 9.
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I got the Mate 9 Pro and One Plus 5, and honestly my Mate 9 Pro is better under direct sunlight than my OP 5.
If I compare the OP 5 with my Xiaomi Mi Mix, the OP 5 is better under direct sunlight than Mi Mix. I also got the S8 Plus and that is better than the OP 5 under direct sunlight, but not for much.
I still love this phone.
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parusia said:
I got the Mate 9 Pro and One Plus 5, and honestly my Mate 9 Pro is better under direct sunlight than my OP 5.
If I compare the OP 5 with my Xiaomi Mi Mix, the OP 5 is better under direct sunlight than Mi Mix. I also got the S8 Plus and that is better than the OP 5 under direct sunlight, but not for much.
I still love this phone.
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I'm in doubt between these two phones. Actually, the Mate 9 non-pro of 6gb/128gb. Could you help me with your impressions?
Thanks in advance.
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elmalote said:
You can swipe down with two fingers.
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The phone is already difficult to hold with one hand..

For me, it's decent but not great. Better than the Asus Zenfone 2 I came from, but I could definitely have some more brightness under direct Indian sunlight.

I find it pretty hard to see the screen but....I'm 54. You younguns still have good eyes. LOL (As you get older your vision needs more contrast/brightness in general.)
But, it's not just about brightness. It's about glare/reflectivity. If there are a lot of things other than the sun, like all manner of things in the world around us projecting their shiny bits at my phone, then it's mostly unreadable.
I'm going to try a screen protector that is not so reflective.

Csetoue said:
I'm in doubt between these two phones. Actually, the Mate 9 non-pro of 6gb/128gb. Could you help me with your impressions?
Thanks in advance.
Sent from my LG-H990 using Tapatalk
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Well, I don't have the mate 9 I have the mate 9 Pro. Honestly I like both, the Mate 9 Pro is a beautiful phone, nice camera, beautiful design. The OP 5 is a nice phone, super fast, camera not impressive, I have the jelly effect, but not bad enough for me to return my phone.
At the end you have to weight your options, do you want good looking phone with good pictures and great design, good battery life, go for the Mate 9. If you want a super fast phone, with good pictures depending on the light and depending on your shaking hands, great battery life and good development support go for the OP 5.
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Csetoue said:
I'm in doubt between these two phones. Actually, the Mate 9 non-pro of 6gb/128gb. Could you help me with your impressions?
Thanks in advance.
Sent from my LG-H990 using Tapatalk
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I had the Mate 9 Pro and replaced it with the Oneplus 5.
They both have their strengths, it comes down to what you are looking for.
Something that surprised me though is that I feel the display of the Oneplus 5 is actually better. Even though it's 1080 and the Huawei is 2k.
Considering the price difference, the Oneplus is the better phone. It's also faster and has a better battery life.
The Huawei has infrared port, smarter implementations in the software such as knuckle gestures, screen recording and so on.
In the camera department, the Huawei has a much better front camera because of the auto focus.
The rear camera is also better in the Huawei, but Oneplus gained in a little with the latest update. The Huawei camera is more consistent, whereas the Oneplus is hit and miss sometimes.
And lastly the Huawei has a better design. More stylish.

One of the best performing phones in daylight as it's oled, no problems here at all. Might need to adjust brightness at best.

gonsa said:
The phone is already difficult to hold with one hand..
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You must be yoking. First you're told how to use two fingers rather then one finger two times. Now you can't hold it.

Max brightness is way too low. Wish my OP3 were alive so I could compare them directly, it looks like 5's brightness is lower.

For me, brightness could be a little bit better.
Swipe left and right in the status bar for brightness would be very nice.

Why is the stock camera app so pathetic? ?

Wonder why can't OP or most manufacturers get the camera app right like Google does?
The stock camera on op6 is awful.
The camera has no wide angle and objects are too near than they actually are.
Normal or HDR is grainy work noise.

Pfa

Here's my picture. No edit, no nothing. I don't think that camera is pathetic..
Edit, forum seem to pixelate these over 7mb pics..
Let's see if this helps:

I didn't see the Panorama mode? Is OSS support this mode?

The OP6 is not known for his camera. Like every OP.
And in addition I agree that their stock camera app is far from the best seen on android.
Not that the needed options are not here. But this feels not ergonomic. Or maybe it's to early after having a new phone to say...
dRakeNNNN said:
I didn't see the Panorama mode? Is OSS support this mode?
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Which OSS version do you have ? In 5.1.7, Panorama mode is the last one on the bottom of the camera modes menu.

RealLordK1 said:
The OP6 is not known for his camera. Like every OP.
And in addition I agree that their stock camera app is far from the best seen on android.
Not that the needed options are not here. But this feels not ergonomic. Or maybe it's to early after having a new phone to say...
Which OSS version do you have ? In 5.1.7, Panorama mode is the last one on the bottom of the camera modes menu.
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Thank you, i found it. It's hide under up icon indicator

Subhojit said:
Wonder why can't OP or most manufacturers get the camera app right like Google does?
The stock camera on op6 is awful.
The camera has no wide angle and objects are too near than they actually are.
Normal or HDR is grainy work noise.
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Wonder why can't OP or most manufacturers get the camera app right like Google does?
You can install many camera apps like Google. Search the Google Play store.
The stock camera on op6 is awful.
It's actually very good. Not GS9 good but close.
The camera has no wide angle and objects are too near than they actually are.
This camera uses EIS to alleviate shaky hands and walking shakiness. Stop doing drugs
Normal or HDR is grainy work noise.
There is some noise in dark shots, but nowhere near the previous generation cameras.
It's a very good camera.

Buy a pixel then? I don't understand people. This camera is just as good in most situations as the pixel camera and when it's not, it's damn close. If people are going to complain it's not as good as a pixel camera and it's that important to you then damn, spend $300+ more and get a pixel.
I'm not trying to be snarky but what are you expecting on a phone that is $300-$400 less than another phone? There is a reason you bought a $500 phone and not a $800-$1000 phone

Eric214 said:
Buy a pixel then? I don't understand people. This camera is just as good in most situations as the pixel camera and when it's not, it's damn close. If people are going to complain it's not as good as a pixel camera and it's that important to you then damn, spend $300+ more and get a pixel.
I'm not trying to be snarky but what are you expecting on a phone that is $300-$400 less than another phone? There is a reason you bought a $500 phone and not a $800-$1000 phone
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It's not the bests camera if you have a baby. I struggle to get an infocus shot the first time which If you have a kid you need.
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B3501 said:
It's not the bests camera if you have a baby. I struggle to get an infocus shot the first time which If you have a kid you need.
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Why not get a baby camera then?
Galaxy S9 is fantastic. Huge aperture, huge pixel size - perfect for moving objects and low light shots.
S9 is like $700.
S9 is a beautiful phone. Wait till Samsung.com unleashes its sales. The first sale was -$150 off on ATT branded S9 about a month ago. The second sale was -$200 off on Verizon branded S9 two weeks ago.
I bought the ATT one for a friend, requested and got it sim unlocked in 3 days.
Good deal.

nabbed said:
Why not get a baby camera then?
Galaxy S9 is fantastic. Huge aperture, huge pixel size - perfect for moving objects and low light shots.
S9 is like $700.
S9 is a beautiful phone. Wait till Samsung.com unleashes its sales. The first sale was -$150 off on ATT branded S9 about a month ago. The second sale was -$200 off on Verizon branded S9 two weeks ago.
I bought the ATT one for a friend, requested and got it sim unlocked in 3 days.
Good deal.
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Impractical. I use my wife's S8 most of the time.
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I wouldn't call it "pathetic". I compare my Note 8 to my OnePlus 6 and have to say:
• The OP6 focuses better in videos than the Note 8. Tested by driving on average roads. All cars, signs, etc. were perfectly focused whilst the Note 8 really struggled focusing one single thing. Autofocus can't be turned off it seems.
• The OP6 stabilizes images and videos better than the Note 8. Tested by driving on average roads. OIS and EIS on OP6 is great. The Note 8 found its limits where the OP6 succeeded.
• More natural colors on the OP6 compared to the Note 8.
• OP6 only needs half the power to keep the camera running. The Note 8 really got hot in some situations, where the OP6 stood cool. Also tested by driving on average roads.
Sure: I miss the real 2x zoom on my Note 8. Night shots are better on the Note 8 too and even with some issues, the Note 8 wins. But it's a damn close win, because it should only be a matter of time, until good developers will do a dailydriver Google Camera port for the OP6.
And even if OP6 has its flaws: I love it more than my Note 8. Why? Find out by yourself.

B3501 said:
Impractical. I use my wife's S8 most of the time.
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I use your wife's S8 too. Not so good.

MickyFoley said:
I wouldn't call it "pathetic". I compare my Note 8 to my OnePlus 6 and have to say:
• The OP6 focuses better in videos than the Note 8. Tested by driving on average roads. All cars, signs, etc. were perfectly focused whilst the Note 8 really struggled focusing one single thing. Autofocus can't be turned off it seems.
• The OP6 stabilizes images and videos better than the Note 8. Tested by driving on average roads. OIS and EIS on OP6 is great. The Note 8 found its limits where the OP6 succeeded.
• More natural colors on the OP6 compared to the Note 8.
• OP6 only needs half the power to keep the camera running. The Note 8 really got hot in some situations, where the OP6 stood cool. Also tested by driving on average roads.
Sure: I miss the real 2x zoom on my Note 8. Night shots are better on the Note 8 too and even with some issues, the Note 8 wins. But it's a damn close win, because it should only be a matter of time, until good developers will do a dailydriver Google Camera port for the OP6.
And even if OP6 has its flaws: I love it more than my Note 8. Why? Find out by yourself.
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I think it's more about the camera app, than the camera itself. Samsung allows you to change the aspect ratio, resolution, framerate, storage location, different grid sizes, gestures, and a dozen different modes including pro mode.

Hm. Grid can be changed up to the Golden Ratio. Framerate is also changeable: 720p with 480FPS and 1080p with 240FPS. Gestures... dunno. Never needed on my Note 8. Aspect is also here. The only thing missing: Different sizes for the photos. I'd like to go back to 12MP, because of better photos (seen from the technical side).

Sooner or later we will have a fully working Google camera. At worst after pixel 3 launch, but it will surely happen.

geoff5093 said:
I think it's more about the camera app, than the camera itself. Samsung allows you to change the aspect ratio, resolution, framerate, storage location, different grid sizes, gestures, and a dozen different modes including pro mode.
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OP6 has a pro-mode, I just point and clicking so I don't use it but it's there.

here's my gripes
> Panoramas aren't stabilized, so unless you are a machine while turning around being completely still it won't come out good
> Videos focus in and out so much when there are moving objects it makes it pointless
These two things bother me a lot

This best camera I used, after comparing to mi 8, Zenfone 5z, s8 and v30. V30 has the best manual mode. The 5z before latest update had terrible videos, I was I had purchased it to replace my v30 and pictures only came very clear during daytime.

Oneplus 9 vs 8t camera

So I just got the oneplus 8t and the camera processing is really, really bad. It's way too saturated and worst of all, it just clips all shadow details to black, it's horrible compared to my mi 9 which has the same exact main sensor, without ois as well. BUT, it's very annoying as I really enjoy the phone in regard to other aspects but don't know how to put up with a much worse camera.
I'm pretty sure I'll return it even if it makes me sad, but would like to get the oneplus 9 for 100 euros more instead if the photos aren't so contrasty and saturated. To the people that have taken photos with both, can you say if the photos on the 9 are on the more natural side with a focus on more shadow details instead of insane levels of contrast?

kingbasescu said:
So I just got the oneplus 8t and the camera processing is really, really bad. It's way too saturated and worst of all, it just clips all shadow details to black, it's horrible compared to my mi 9 which has the same exact main sensor, without ois as well. BUT, it's very annoying as I really enjoy the phone in regard to other aspects but don't know how to put up with a much worse camera.
I'm pretty sure I'll return it even if it makes me sad, but would like to get the oneplus 9 for 100 euros more instead if the photos aren't so contrasty and saturated. To the people that have taken photos with both, can you say if the photos on the 9 are on the more natural side with a focus on more shadow details instead of insane levels of contrast?
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Just get Gcam

knn130 said:
Just get Gcam
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Yeah, have done that a day after I put this thread up, it improves the main camera by a lot, sadly only for pictures, video is still crap on both. Front camera behaves better too but adds a greenish tint to my face in some situations. Glad I don't have to return this phone too, woulve've been my 6th return, at least this one doesn't have issues down to very basic levels like I found on the s21 ultra or the 12 pro max while costing 500 euros less than these.

What's the most stable gcam version? Cos most of them i have tried have some kind of problem.

sansanc said:
What's the most stable gcam version? Cos most of them i have tried have some kind of problem.
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I use greatness latest gcam. What kind of issues were you having?

azoller1 said:
I use greatness latest gcam. What kind of issues were you having?
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Don't remember, but it sucked. Will try again.

Question Google Camera - update

I thought Google camera was supposed to be top quality. The picture showing in the view finder looks like its got a brownish/grayish filter over it with colors washed out, and the display keeps dimming with Adaptative brightness off. Often the picture looks blurry. Coming from OnePlus it's a very disappointing camera.
Update: Turns out I have a bad unit. After comparing camera quality to other Pixel 7 Pro, the difference is incredible. RMA back to Google

K1nsey6 said:
I thought Google camera was supposed to be top quality. The picture showing in the view finder looks like its got a brownish/grayish filter over it with colors washed out, and the display keeps dimming with Adaptative brightness off. Often the picture looks blurry. Coming from OnePlus it's a very disappointing camera.
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Sounds like your phone is defective because my OnePlus 9 was the most disappointing camera I have had since my HTC Mogul. I have yet to be disappointed with a picture from my 7 Pro.

EtherealRemnant said:
Sounds like your phone is defective because my OnePlus 9 was the most disappointing camera I have had since my HTC Mogul. I have yet to be disappointed with a picture from my 7 Pro.
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Im leaning towards defective too. Im about to factory reset to see if that clears it up. It only seems to be the front camera, rear is good

The biggest thing i dont like about this camera is the extreme oversharpening wich destroys the image

yes, processing is up a notch since the 6. also the 7p tele is a downgrade from the 6. it's a shame. I use the tele on the 6 loads and love it. I don't think I can give it up for the 7 tele.