3429 mAh battery - anybody else or is it just me? - Samsung Galaxy A8 (2018) Questions & Answers

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Bought it more than one and a half years ago but up until recently was lying on a shelf. Started using it together with a new S10 - both identically configured (stock, no root, uninstalled what I didn't want), same apps, 2 sim cards (actually 5 sim cards in each thanks to SIMore), wifi, multiple apps syncing in the background, power mode "optimized", and yet A8 eats only 0.3-0.5% an hour screen off while S10 (with "only" 3353/3400 estimated/design battery capacity) takes more like 0.5-0.6% an hour. And that's after a week of optimizing (uninstalling, disabling, suspending, background limiting, standby bucketing, battery historianing). I can't get S10 to last at least as long as A8 (which costs only 1/3).
If A8 had 6+ GB of RAM I would have never bought S10. A8 has a notification LED, can take 2 sim cards and a microsd card together and with 2x SIMore I could put in there 8 sim cards. None of that is possible with S10.
Why are people complaining about A8 battery? Such an amazing phone.

johnsmithx said:
Bought it more than one and a half years ago but up until recently was lying on a shelf. Started using it together with a new S10 - both identically configured (stock, no root, uninstalled what I didn't want), same apps, 2 sim cards (actually 5 sim cards in each thanks to SIMore), wifi, multiple apps syncing in the background, power mode "optimized", and yet A8 eats only 0.3-0.5% an hour screen off while S10 (with "only" 3353/3400 estimated/design battery capacity) takes more like 0.5-0.6% an hour. And that's after a week of optimizing (uninstalling, disabling, suspending, background limiting, standby bucketing, battery historianing). I can't get S10 to last at least as long as A8 (which costs only 1/3).
If A8 had 6+ GB of RAM I would have never bought S10. A8 has a notification LED, can take 2 sim cards and a microsd card together and with 2x SIMore I could put in there 8 sim cards. None of that is possible with S10.
Why are people complaining about A8 battery? Such an amazing phone.
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i went from the A8 to the S9 and regret it. The A8 is a venerable phone and is very overlooked here in the states because of what seems to be caused by the snob factor. What else could cause a sensible human being to choose an inferior performing phone over the superior one? Other than the microsecond advantage the S9's snapdragon has over the Exynos in the A8 is negligible, the A8s slightly less sharp display never let me down or left me wanting a better one(its a phone for gods sake after all), the rest is nearly identical. The A8's FFC is vastly superior than the S9's tho, and thats objective, not just subjective. The A8 has a dual aperture FFC array whereas the S9 is single, and its obvious when compared side by side. the 2018 A8 is a wonderful phone. Oh, to your topic, ive never noticed any battery issues in it either. It lasts longer than the S9 does on the daily, and ive put it thru nearly identical scenarios. Even down to the time i take it off the charger before going to bed and seeing where it is percentage-wise in the morning, where it sits on my desk at work, how often i use it during the day and what for. The A8 battery life is just superior in my personal experience with both phones as daily drivers for months on end. I ran my A8 for a year and then sold it to the older kiddo, so its still in the family and i keep tabs on how its doing for him regularly.
oh, and i dont use that app nor would i give an ounce of credence to a battery estimator tool saying how big it thinks my battery should be based on how much estimated life it has left

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Compare GS4 to Nexus 5?

I am on sprint and have a galaxy s4. I am happy enough with it.
I want the ability to leave sprint and be off contract with either att or tmobile.
I am worried about what I reading with battery life on the Nexus 5.
Can anyone comment on their experience with both he 4 and the 5? Pros/cons etc.
One thing I can tell you from my experiences is that N5 battery is way better than S4. S4 is a powerful device but battery was one of my reason to stay away from it.
My N5 blows my S3 away non battery life.
I had a s4 and i was disappointed with the battery life, the galaxy series never exceeded my expectations especially when they inside touchwiz it reminded me when i had the s2 and the complaints people had,
With amoled displays its ment to be more efficient but it drained so fast when in use, so i swapped for a n5 and even though the battery is smaller i don't need to charge it twice a day.
The n5 is a nice solid device to hold,no bugs to mention, just nice smooth vanilla android
My s4 could not connect to camera often, wakelock bug,reboot required, standby drain,no knox security or deterrents for unlocking boot loader.
Bugs varied from device you may not experienced these.
Thanks for the response.
I was going to get the 6, but that is just too big for me. 5 will be a keeper for a while and it can be used on Sprint ATT and TMobile.
Battery!!!
Bielinsk said:
Thanks for the response.
I was going to get the 6, but that is just too big for me. 5 will be a keeper for a while and it can be used on Sprint ATT and TMobile.
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If you only listen to music, use social media and make calls, the battery will last a day. Now, if you start playing games and watching videos all the time on youtube the nexus 5 you will run out of power at the end of the day. I'm very pleased with my battery life, and with Android Lollipop promising better performance, you can't go wrong getting a nexus.
Funny, when I owned a s4, the best part of the device was the stellar battery life. My only gripe with it was the amoled screen (looked fake to me).
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Funny, when I owned a s4, the best part of the device was the stellar battery life. My only gripe with it was the amoled screen (looked fake to me).
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Battery didn't improve much from the S3 before it. AMOLED needs a lot of juice to get the brightness level usable though that has been somewhat resolved in the latest generation panels found only in the S5 and Note4. Hopefully the Nexus 6 was able to procure them and not stuck with last year's tech as the Moto X 2014 was forced to do.
The Nexus 5 blows away the S4 in everything. I set it to ART and it is much faster.
Spark on Sprint is 22mb down.
Very happy I made the switch. What a great phone this 5 is, kicking myself for not getting it a year ago.

Is this tablet worth $700?

Looking at picking up the 64gb Wifi version on Amazon for just a hair over $700. I'd really like to have the LTE version to use with my AT&T account, but it looks like I'd have to sacrifice the ability to flash custom ROMs to do so. A quick Google search says that the Lollipop update is due by the end of next month for the Wifi version. I can get a used or open box version much cheaper, but I worry about some of the problems I've seen posted about and also possibly a year's worth of wear on the non-replaceable battery.
So what do you guys think? Having owned this tablet for about a year (some of you, I presume) would you pay $700 knowing what you know now?
P.S. Does an installed micro SD card stick out the side of the tablet or can it be installed and the cover closed for permanent use?
I've got the LTE version, in my opinion very much worth the 700 dollars. (I paid $966 for it). It has the exact same hardware as the Note 3 N9005, which is almost as expensive with a much smaller screen.
Battery lasts about 5 weeks in standby, almost 18 hours when watching films (Which is a dream on this thing. 12.2" 2K ). Readability in sunlight is good. I haven't encountered any problems so far.
I'm not so sure about the WiFi edition, as it has a weaker Exynos and Mali, (Same as the N900 Note 3) no fast charging (relevant with 9500mAh, as even with Qualcomm fastcharge it takes about 6 hours) and several people report issues with bluescreens. If you're interested in gaming, a lot of games aren't compatible with the Mali GPU. Then again, it does have customROMS, a few. Though this thing is very fast without them.
As for the MicroSD, it's covered by a lid, doesn't stick out at all.
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Yep. It does. Pretty much straight and forward, right? The device by itself is excellent. Great hardware specs (as said previously, like N9005) and the 12.2" is kind of AWESOME for pretty much everything.. from games to navigate in the web.. I paid $600, brand new, but for sure I would pay a hundred bucks more for such a great device.
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....not so sure about the WiFi edition, as it has a weaker Exynos and Mali, (Same as the N900 Note 3) no fast charging (relevant with 9500mAh, as even with Qualcomm fastcharge it takes about 6 hours) and several people report issues with bluescreens. If you're interested in gaming, a lot of games aren't compatible with the Mali GPU. Then again, it does have customROMS, a few. Though this thing is very fast without them.
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Okay, okay, you convinced me... just ordered an Open Box 32gb LTE variant from eBay for $450. Any dangers in rooting, at least?
911jason said:
Okay, okay, you convinced me... just ordered an Open Box 32gb LTE variant from eBay for $450. Any dangers in rooting, at least?
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There are some people who have issues with freezes after rooting (on all variants). Make sure you freeze everything KNOX-related, as that causes it.

bigger battery?

As we all know you cant remove battery in note 5, but today when i got it they mentioned battery replacement in 1 year for free. So then i googled it and found the case on the back does come off, unscrew in 14 slots and you see samsungs battery and can remove it. So if that is possbile can we add more juice? Example on note 3 it comes with 3200mAh right? On ebay i bought a 4200mAh same size. So if back case is removable and the battery is replaceable this should be possbile?
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Samsung+Galaxy+Note5+Battery+Replacement/51173#
The only issue I could see running into a bigger battery would be fitting it inside the phone. Those Chinese manufacturers that claim they are 5000mAh and the same physical size are yanking your chain, or are just terrible batteries. I'm sure if Samsung could have fit a larger capacity battery in the device, they would have. Your best bet is a Mophie or other external battery case.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/4200mAh-Batte...00-N9002-N9005-N9006-/331158602360?nav=SEARCH
Is the battery i got inside my note 3. Its actually a bit slimmer than samsungs battery, and the extra 1000 mAh is noticable as in the phone lasted longer and didnt discharge as fast. I found on ebay people selling note 5 internal batterys at 3000mAh. So im guessing no 1 has made a battery with more juice same size yet or they are in the process. But lets say note 5 active...the rumors of a bigger battery. If it is exactly the same size and everything is the same...we should be able to buy the active battery and inerset it right?
Obviously this isn't a bigger battery, but reaches the same goal. http://www.mophie.com/shop/juice-pack-note-5
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As we all know you cant remove battery in note 5, but today when i got it they mentioned battery replacement in 1 year for free. So then i googled it and found the case on the back does come off, unscrew in 14 slots and you see samsungs battery and can remove it. So if that is possbile can we add more juice? Example on note 3 it comes with 3200mAh right? On ebay i bought a 4200mAh same size. So if back case is removable and the battery is replaceable this should be possbile?
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Samsung+Galaxy+Note5+Battery+Replacement/51173#
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But why i can use my phone all day with no issues and most of the time its heavy use....
Chaz187 said:
But why i can use my phone all day with no issues and most of the time its heavy use....
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because of what samsung stated. The 4gb, higher resoultion, chipset all should drain the battery because of the power hungryness. Due to the chipset being more...advance, power compustion is reduced by like 40% or something. Plus the fast charging and being more energy effceint.
as for the power case, yes i got 2 of them as well
Battery seems ok this phone hasnt had 2 full cycles yet
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Options - Worth it to buy S10e Exynos SM-G970F/DS?

I currently have a OnePlus 5 and I'm looking to upgrade to a device with a better camera, but one I can still root, with reasonable battery life, to be my daily driver (at reasonable cost). I'm done with OnePlus (for now) and Pixel 4 battery doesn't thrill me, nor the high retail price.
I've seen new S10e Exynos devices for <$500. I've also read anecdotally that the battery life on those models is poor compared to snapdragon. I'm not a gamer or heavy user, but I do run Spotify and GPS apps in the background for several hours at a time outdoors.
How is the battery life on Exynos and are there kernels available that help out with that (i.e. blu spark, EX, etc...)?
As a light user, I can occasionally squeeze out 6 hours of SOT on WiFi only, but in your use case I think 4 hours is more realistic. I do not think small phones with long battery lifes are on the market at the moment. I have no experience with custom kernels, but I would not expect too much of them as there is not much development going on for this device. Look here for more info: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...--s10--s10-5g-cross-device-development-exynos
S10e is not going to be great for good battery life. A kernel can only help so much when it has a little 3100mAh battery.
I got fed up with battery life anxiety of my Axon 7 (3250mAh) although it's still a good phone to use. Got myself a great deal on Mate 20 Pro. I don't care about rooting it etc so the locked bootloader doesn't worry me. I have the S10e for work use and the Huawei is my personal phone which does all the heavy work. It's a way better phone than the Samsung, no doubt about it and that 4200mAh battery allows me to flog it all day and late into the evening then charge it next morning at work when it still has 30% left.
I would need an S10+ to use a Samsung comparatively to the Mate 20 Pro but I think the Huawei would still be a better phone as the Sammy would be an Exynos here in Australia.
digger16309 said:
I currently have a OnePlus 5 and I'm looking to upgrade to a device with a better camera, but one I can still root, with reasonable battery life, to be my daily driver (at reasonable cost). I'm done with OnePlus (for now) and Pixel 4 battery doesn't thrill me, nor the high retail price.
I've seen new S10e Exynos devices for <$500. I've also read anecdotally that the battery life on those models is poor compared to snapdragon. I'm not a gamer or heavy user, but I do run Spotify and GPS apps in the background for several hours at a time outdoors.
How is the battery life on Exynos and are there kernels available that help out with that (i.e. blu spark, EX, etc...)?
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Mine is terrible. Stay with Pixel
digger16309 said:
I currently have a OnePlus 5 and I'm looking to upgrade to a device with a better camera, but one I can still root, with reasonable battery life, to be my daily driver (at reasonable cost). I'm done with OnePlus (for now) and Pixel 4 battery doesn't thrill me, nor the high retail price.
I've seen new S10e Exynos devices for <$500. I've also read anecdotally that the battery life on those models is poor compared to snapdragon. I'm not a gamer or heavy user, but I do run Spotify and GPS apps in the background for several hours at a time outdoors.
How is the battery life on Exynos and are there kernels available that help out with that (i.e. blu spark, EX, etc...)?
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I don't know if this is still relevant for you, but some days ago here I wrote a post about the battery performance of my S10e on a custom ROM and kernel:
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I get pretty good SOT and battery life too on the Exynos variant of the S10e:
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Part of it might be that I'm using BeyondROM and the Arter97 variant of ThundeRStormS-Kernel. Both have some optimizations for battery, but still the performance is very decent:
I rooted my S10e right after buying it this August, so I don't have a comparison to the stock rom.
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Battery life with this setup is great IMHO, although I have to admit that I'm not a heavy user, with just occasional 3d gaming.

[Unboxing] My First Impression of HONOR 9A - Midnight Black Color

Received the Honor 9A yesterday in Midnight black and on first impressions very impressed.
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The box was nice with details of the phone on it. Inside the box there was a European plug and micro Usb charging cable, a set of earphones, the SIM tray removal pin and all the instruction manual and warranty card.
When I removed the phone I thought the screen was a very nice size for my big hands and the back was a nice shiny midnight black with the triple camera setup & fingerprint sensor.
On the right hand side was the power button and volume rockers and on the left the SIM tray which can hold 2 SIM cards & a micro SD card up to 512gb.
On the top was what looks like a microphone hole and on the bottom micro usb charging port, the sound speaker and a 3.5" headphone jack. The sides felt ok but was very plasticy and has that budget feel but still felt nice to hold.
On the screen was the teardrop selfie camera.
I found the phone itself was very light but nice to hold.
The phone has 3gb of Ram and 64gb of storage so if you put in a 512gb micro SD card you will have more than enough storage. I have put in a 128gb card which to me is plenty. I haven't taken any pictures as yet but that I will post later.
Once I had setup the phone it was surprisingly quite responsive and the LCD screen was bright and very clear.
What I was very happy with is that this budget phone has Android 10.1 & Magic Ui 3.1, something my Honor 20 or Honor 9X Pro doesn't have as of yet and looks great, can't wait for it to come on my Honor 20 and 9X Pro.
The Honor 9A also has face unlock and the fingerprint scanner and password to protect the phone something you wouldn't expect on this price range phone.
I also found not having Google apps and services nothing to worry about as most can be found on the App gallery and APK pure, but Petal search is fantastic and will find most apps you need.
I charged the phone to full and used it all day yesterday and most of today so far and still on 50%. So that 5000mAh battery is brilliant and definitely makes it last longer, depending on use.
I have not used the phone for gaming as yet as use the Honor 20 and 9X Pro for gaming. But I'm sure you will be able to play most games but probably on a lower setting.
Overall my first impression on this great budget phone is good and anyone who wants a good phone for a certain price range then this will make them very happy. What you get for £129.99 is a lot for the price.
I will use the phone over the next week and give an update on battery, the camera and gaming. So to finish if your thinking about getting the Honor 9A for a certain budget then do it as you won't be disappointed. A further update to follow.
Updated 29th July
Some pictures I've taken today in my garden with the Honor 9A. There's not as many functions like the Honor 20 or some of the more expensive phones have. But it does the job. For a 13mp, 5mp and 2mp camera setup the pictures are not to bad. But what do you expect from a phone at this price range. But you get a better camera setup than some other phones at that price range.
Something I love on this phone and on Android 10.1 is the new Celia Voice assistant which after playing with it found it better than Google and Siri.
Update Gaming on the Honor 9A 31st July 2020. The Honor 9A done quite well playing call of duty mobile but settings are set to low which doesn't help the quality of the display but still playable. However it did play the game well with with no lag and it loaded the game quite quick. To play this game anyway is really good again for the value and specs of this phone.
Source: https://community.hihonor.com/uk/topicdetail/%5BHonor-9A%5D-Received-from-Honor-Yesterday!/topicId_21599/

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