I'm interested to know how many people would like to see a WisBar Advance Desktop build for Android. Just let me know. Thanks!
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I think WAD was a very cool launcher in WMobile
Fantastic loved it on win mob
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I loved wisbar!
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Well, so far it's looking like there's at least a little interest. I'll get started.
Count me in a interested. Never ran wm without it!
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Its funny that you mention it. I just visited the wisbar forums thinking there may be something about it coming to android. Before switching to android I had purchased and used Wisbar and WAD. As good as WAD for WM was, it just never really worked perfectly. And thats only because of the limitation of WM and the hardware not WAD itself.
I think android is the perfect platform that would be ready to embrace WAD. I will be looking forward to using it in the future I think WAD for android will be what the long term goals of WAD for WM had striven for.
I'm glad that you finally decide to make an android version of WAD2(I've ask for that a long time ago in your forum).
I hope that this best wm UI will come on android devices very soon.
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I use WAD (now 2) since a long time. I could not do without it. It is the only reason to stay at WM6.x.
If there would bei WAD2 for Android, it would be great and I think I would change over to Android too
Interestng...I also used WAD when I had a PPC device. I would be interested too.
I would be interested too... On WinMo Wisbar Advanced Desktop was amazing!
Thank you everyone for your interest. I've been doing some thinking about this as it will be a major step for me as I've been a long-time supporter of Windows Mobile (I've been around since PPC2000).
Given how powerful Android is, I can only think of one UI limitation at the moment: since there's no taskbar with an ever-present start menu, I'll have to make the app-drawer/launcher available on every page. At least, that's probably the best way to go right now unless someone has a different opinion/preference.
Another thing I was thinkg about: do you want a variable number of pages (being added through Menu > Add Page) or should I add a preference like some other launchers have to specify the number of pages?
These are very good news.
I can't wait to be able to use WAD again. I just hope that HTC Tattoo will be supported.
As for pages, I prefer the way of wm WAD2(pages added via menu).
So, I'm thinking about approaching this from a different direction than I did with Windows Mobile.
The first major change is I'm thinking about using a scripting language to describe how things are laid out and how they behave rather than just dragging and dropping items. The reason is two-fold:
1) This will give the script designer more control about how things look and how they work.
2) We won't run into the problem of shortcuts that open apps and widgets that are not installed on someone else's device (a major shortcoming of WAD2's).
So, the language would say something like: create a folder at x, y. This "button" will open it and this button will close it. You would also be able to specify an area where shortcuts could be added, such as "create a shortcut grid at x, y", but you would not be able to specify the shortcuts (this would be left up to the user who is using your theme).
One downside of this is that the layouts would have to be created on the desktop and then uploaded to your phone.
The other downside is that this would severely hamper the ability to launch specific apps using scripts. But, this is really a limitation of Android itself as, unlike Windows Mobile, not every device comes with the same core set of apps. And, for the apps that are included in most devices (such as the calendar), the intents to launch them may vary depending on the OS version (i.e. the calendar changed in between Eclair and Froyo).
I'm just brainstorming here. If anyone has any suggestions, please feel free to let me know. Right now I'm in the planning stages to see how close I can keep it to Windows Mobile, but at the same time implement new technologies in order to make it the most robust launcher around.
hells yeah man!!! i used it on my tilt for a while.....i think its ironic how similar android really is to winmo...just more refined but very similar in the idea
I found this thread quite late but i can just say +1. =)
I would really like to see Wisbar Adv Desktop on Android. Hope you are making good progress
I just finished asking your to offer support for android on your forums.
Feel free to plus one over too, guys.
http://forum.lakeridgesoftware.com/showthread.php?p=106717#post106717
See it for the first time. +100000
I used to love making themes!!
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Awesome. Back in the days WAD was one of the best applications for WM, I've always been impressed by how much one could do with it.
I like the idea of creating themes on the desktop and then uploading them to the phone, because creating themes has always been kind of difficult and work-intensive.
You can map the app drawer to the home button or you might even be able to implement the ability to create shortcuts that open the app drawer.
Concerning the number of homescreens, I think Menu > Add Page is a bit more convenient and less likely to mess things up (since removing non-empty home screens could create issues, as it did with some launchers).
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Thank you everyone for your interest. I've been doing some thinking about this as it will be a major step for me as I've been a long-time supporter of Windows Mobile (I've been around since PPC2000).
Given how powerful Android is, I can only think of one UI limitation at the moment: since there's no taskbar with an ever-present start menu, I'll have to make the app-drawer/launcher available on every page. At least, that's probably the best way to go right now unless someone has a different opinion/preference.
Another thing I was thinkg about: do you want a variable number of pages (being added through Menu > Add Page) or should I add a preference like some other launchers have to specify the number of pages?
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I just stumbled over this.... is it for real?
WAS with all the functionality will be ported over to Android? This will be the killer app taking all other launchers / home screen apps out of biz.
I am here to betatest!
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So, I'm thinking about approaching this from a different direction than I did with Windows Mobile.
The first major change is I'm thinking about using a scripting language to describe how things are laid out and how they behave rather than just dragging and dropping items. The reason is two-fold:
1) This will give the script designer more control about how things look and how they work.
2) We won't run into the problem of shortcuts that open apps and widgets that are not installed on someone else's device (a major shortcoming of WAD2's).
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Hopefully you can get the HTC Sense Widgets to work as well at least on HTC devices where this should not be a violation of copyright laws. I will gladly offer to borrow you a european HTC Desire for testing purposes if that is of any help.
I second your notiong of requiring a script language, but of course it would take one that is not laid out for programmers but also still understandable for regular designers. Search around here in the Forum for SlickUI and KiteUI, both which are still deep in the "maybe wel will do this stage" for some decent ideas on how people imagine their ideal design, and therefore gfgiving you an idea how much flexibility your framework needs.
Things that should really be in the to-do-list: radial icon menus. That means you assign say 6-8 icons to a WAD icon placed on the homescreen, upon tapping this the home screen blurs and the assigned icons circle around the pushed icon. This is a terrific way to organize similar apps IMO, much better looking than the folder blocks we have gotten used to.
WAD actually was one reason I found it very hard to aprt with my WM phone. Thie level of adustability had not been reached before. People who do not know what the heck I am creaming my pants about should use google image search for "wisbar advance desktop". It was a pure naked framework, allowing beasically every freedom any designer could wish / hope for.
Anotherr important thing to note is the touch features which have come quite a long way since WM6.5. You would need to extend the framework in order to allow rotating dials for menu control, swipe movements for changing screen left to right and vice versa.
If you could actually manage to pull the old stunt where you made an app run constantly on a "homescreen" it would be awesome. Imagine 3-5-7-whatnot screen with widgets laid out side by side, but a simple upward stroke brings you into the already preloaded browser (from which you return with the back key into the regular homescreen).
God, I am bursting with ideas.
As I said, I will beat test all days long if you need someone.
So, the language would say something like: create a folder at x, y. This "button" will open it and this button will close it. You would also be able to specify an area where shortcuts could be added, such as "create a shortcut grid at x, y", but you would not be able to specify the shortcuts (this would be left up to the user who is using your theme).
One downside of this is that the layouts would have to be created on the desktop and then uploaded to your phone.
The other downside is that this would severely hamper the ability to launch specific apps using scripts. But, this is really a limitation of Android itself as, unlike Windows Mobile, not every device comes with the same core set of apps. And, for the apps that are included in most devices (such as the calendar), the intents to launch them may vary depending on the OS version (i.e. the calendar changed in between Eclair and Froyo).
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I'm just brainstorming here. If anyone has any suggestions, please feel free to let me know. Right now I'm in the planning stages to see how close I can keep it to Windows Mobile, but at the same time implement new technologies in order to make it the most robust launcher around.[/QUOTE]
#Pinch to zoom and similar gestures will go a long way in allowing to extend the possibilites and ways the users can interact with the interface. Instead of an always visible appdrawer you could just use a gesture predefined that will launch the app drawer
Should we make a thread where all former WAD users and upcoming UI design freaks post their wishlists?
Hello, (first post!)
Got an HTC HD7 a few days ago in India and loving it overall.
Noticed that some text (in either emails, webpages, facebook etc) which use "indic" or "devanagri" or "hindi" (India) font show up as square blocks suggesting missing fonts.
Is there a way to add/install fonts now or do we need to wait for updates from MS?
Also, is there a kind of official location for user feedback for such things? social.microsoft.com forums will do?
Thanks,
Vishal
fonts: no.
social.microsoft.com: yes.
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fonts: no.
social.microsoft.com: yes.
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Wow another incredible omission. Amazing how far backwards things have gone compared to Windows Mobile.
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Wow another incredible omission. Amazing how far backwards things have gone compared to Windows Mobile.
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you're very quick to jump to conclusions... why would the end user need to install fonts? if it doesn't work in India yet it is because MS are still working on the language support. As they said already, asian countries (which include india if you know your geography) will get it mid to late 2011.
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Is there a way to add/install fonts now or do we need to wait for updates from MS?
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Developers can add any TrueType font (with Hindi or any other subsets) to their application (exactly as I did in UltiTran - will be available on market soon).
The simplest way to do this - it's an ExpressionBlend's FontManager.
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you're very quick to jump to conclusions... why would the end user need to install fonts? if it doesn't work in India yet it is because MS are still working on the language support. As they said already, asian countries (which include india if you know your geography) will get it mid to late 2011.
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A constant refrain. Why would a user need x, where x is a standard feature of computing that has been in common use for decades.
If you know what a font is, you know why a user may want to install fonts. So that text in documents he views and composes can appear with those fonts.
The same goes for everything else. If you know what a file is, you know why a user may want to access files. If you know what multitasking is, you know why a user may want to have two tasks running simultaneously. And so on.
Sorry to go off on a tangent but this attitude is really dumbing down computing and may prevent the windows phone OS from ever being adequate.
of course i know what a font is. giving the end user ability to reach this sort of system wide tool though, they may as well just left us with windows mobile 6.5 rather than start from scratch.
in saying this, as i said before, MS are working on it for a uniform experience. otherwise you'll end up with some phones with some things and others without, which is what happened with windows mobile.
i'm not saying that we should dumb down the smart phones, but much of the general consumers don't really want to have to go to these lengths. that's not to say there aren't any, but if we were all like that, iPhone would definitely not have taken off.
Well, its mid past 2012, and do we have indic fonts on WP? Well, I guess they are not really bothered.
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A constant refrain. Why would a user need x, where x is a standard feature of computing that has been in common use for decades.
If you know what a font is, you know why a user may want to install fonts. So that text in documents he views and composes can appear with those fonts.
The same goes for everything else. If you know what a file is, you know why a user may want to access files. If you know what multitasking is, you know why a user may want to have two tasks running simultaneously. And so on.
Sorry to go off on a tangent but this attitude is really dumbing down computing and may prevent the windows phone OS from ever being adequate.
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+1 with you on this.
WP7 to current 8 is simplified to point of being useless. I have wm6.5 to WP8 devices & can't believe how hard it is to achieve the most basic functions even with fully unlocked custom ROMs on WP7.8.
Font should be simple so people can add required support for specific fonts for things from sms to docx. Only reason many users found it all too hard back on wm6.5 is fact most people had lower level PC knowledge back then & Microsoft didn't make things any easier & know just omit features completely !
Wm6.5.5 stays my daily device & work standard platform for my company.
Hey Everyone!
So I have had my HTC Radar for about a week now, and since then I have Dev Unlocked, and now that I am I want to know what all I can do with this phone.
Is there a way to have the tile labels (at the bottom of the tile) removed? Is there a way to add a custom background image on the tiles? Or even change a tile image (ie TweetCaster)?
What exactly does HTC Interop Unlock?
And since I am Dev Unlocked via Microsoft being a student, how many app's am I allowed to side-load? And if I am limited, can I remove that limit?
I hope to hear your answers, and in advance, THANKS!
Student gives you 3. Interopt unlock works for 1st generation windows phones but not 2nd yet (worked on my surround, not on my new titan).
Interopt unlock also changes sideload limit to unlimited. you need this for more then 3 apps and also for some of the more powerful homebrew apps.
You can however download batterystatus from here in the software section. it does not require it. Also you can do the custom folders without even being unlocked. Tile color changes with themes. not much modifying there as the app sets it. There are a few utilities though if interopt unlocked for more customizations.
I was wondering if anyone had experiences to share as far as customizing tablets for elderly nursing home patients?
I will be taking delivery on a Galaxy Tab 2 that will be customized as an entertainment device for an elderly person. Dementia, short term memory impairment, and total lack of computer knowledge are in the foreground. I'm not sure if this will work but it's my mother so I'm going to give it a try.
Initially I plan to start with maybe two games (solitaire and a slot machine game) and nothing else. I expect to have to flash a custom ROM to be able to hide as many non-necessary UI elements as possible. One home screen, nav bar with back button only, no lock screen, volume wake, hide the dock, etc.
If she gets comfortable with that, the addition of other elements might be possible, such as a photo album. E-mail to a couple of addresses might be possible. Web browsing is probably not ever going to be in the picture. We'll cross that bridge when we get there.
I'm comfortable with Android flashing and customization (have a GNex), and live nearby so I can maintain the tablet in person. I initially was leaning toward an iPad, but realized that this thing is going to have to be more heavily customized than I think is possible within the Apple scheme of things.
Anyone had any experiences with a situation like this?
Thanks in advance.
Elderly device with GSM
Great idea! I would like to work on this too. For my purposes I would like it to function more of a picture frame with super easy to use GSM capability. Maybe just touch the picture of the person you want to talk to to get connected over the speaker phone.
Hello World:
I'm currently using Android Revolution HD ROM and quite pleased but I'm also fond of Cyanogen Mod based ROMs and as many already know they lack some features.
My pledge is the following: Is it possible to take the S Pen setting section from a Stock based ROM (like AR HD) and make a installer package?.
I am most interested in being able to disable S Pen detection while docked, checked many apps that aggregate awesome features to the S Pen but none seamed able to do it.
I also tried seeking inside packages and ROMs with this functionality but failed, may be some wayward savvy could help me, I would really appreciate it and I think it could help others.
Air View or set a different cursor for the pen and the mouse could be other two nice targets but, at least for me, are less important items and seam harder to accomplish.
Thanks for your time.
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I wish :S
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