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Has anyone here seen this phone?
ww.youtube.com/watch?v=PhKxpYRip18
Pretty awesome GUI. Would it be at all possible for someone to mimic it's interface on an android phone? Even if it were like say, a home replacement app?
The idea behind the interface is pretty cool, but this phone leaves something to be desired.

the zooom control looks like 100times better than pinch to zoom
feels more like the android cut thing for setting images... or like zoom on andwobble
but no big news.
don't fancy the ui. I can use my android phone single handedly just great
And I would miss kinetic scroling... If they don't include it, they are nuts
At 5:44 she actually did what I would fear the most - release her thumb too early, starting the wrong app
plus the phone is still to lame for everyday use...
But design looks very nice. and the idea is based on minority report xD

Yeah, I've posted about this phone in a few threads (X10). It looks prety tight. Hasn't been released yet. I'm gonna get one just to have it, when it comes out. Should be easy to port to android phones.
But I'm getting THIS one in a couple of months.

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Should be easy to port to android phones.
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nice to hear someone saying that
i have also known the first else for ... a long time? and always liked the gui. would be nice to have that for my android phone
i just noticed the first else device looks kind of like a complete black, even slightly flatter (backside) iphone 4g xD

Is that Apples new design this year? (The flat gray color, no more shiny chrome)? And also no more roundness? (How the bezel is like flat going to the top and bottom)

It certainly presents some interesting concepts, especially with one thumb use.
However I don't see their entire OS being a success in the near future.

General problems with TF700

Hello everyone. I'm trying to decide between buying a TF700 for this Black Friday, or wait a bit longer and get a Nexus 10 (it's not available in my country yet). I'd like to know if there are still technical issues with the TF700 or if they were fixed by ASUS either by software updates or by improving their manufacturing process. I've heard a lot about slow I/O on this tablet, is this still a problem ? Are there other thing I should be aware of when purchasing (like the screen lift on the Nexus 7) ? Thank you

There are several things you should be aware of including:
Screen lift
screen bleed
Slow IO
Slow stock software
low quality volume buttons(really low feels extremely cheap)
Dead pixels
Also the keyboard dock might cause some damages to the tablet itself depending on the usage.
Well i bought mine 3 weeks ago and i still have the slow IO and the screen lift/screen bleed and needed to change to custom rom to make it
usable..
i believe that alot of these issues will never be solved...
also asus has some of the worst support i have ever experienced so long story short dont buy unless you are happy with a slow
buggy and Defect high end device that might end up destroying itself for no reason
Trying to get the screen lift and screen bleed repaired while being unlocked seems impossible as asus rejects it. atleast thats what they are doing to me.

Slow I/O and slow stock software is all I have. I have no hardware-related problems, like the ones mentioned above. If I had, I would probably have traded it in before I unlocked it.

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Screen lift
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not my Infinity
screen bleed
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not my Infinity
Slow IO
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that's true. But if you want to unlock your device, there is a workaround!
Slow stock software
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that's not true
low quality volume buttons(really low feels extremely cheap)
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not important for me!
Dead pixels
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i don't have dead pixels
Also the keyboard dock might cause some damages to the tablet itself depending on the usage.
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i use the keyboard dock a lot and have no damage on my tablet
Well i bought mine 3 weeks ago and i still have the slow IO and the screen lift/screen bleed and needed to change to custom rom to make it
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IMO it's very usable with stock, but with CustomRom this Tablet is outstanding!!!
i believe that alot of these issues will never be solved...
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...but you don't know, except the I/O issue
also asus has some of the worst support i have ever experienced so long story short dont buy unless you are happy with a slow
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that is also not true, ASUS bringing updates very quick
buggy and Defect high end device that might end up destroying itself for no reason
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I'm extremely happy with my TF700!!!

The thing is this: Happy people are quiet people. They don't bother to go somewhere and leave a positive review. So what you'll find here is a handful of grumphy users, only a tiny segment of the thousands of buyers.
I'm very happy with my Infinity. No issues at all.
So a few games in the Playstore are listed as incompatible. How is this the device's fault?! (Yes, people are seriously whining about that.) That's like saying it's your cat's fault they don't sell Whiskas in the shop... Bloody ridiculous. The games work fine, anyway.
And yes, copying is a little slow. Ever tried to copy 3GB worth of images in Windows? Same bloody thing.
And the volume keys are perfectly solid. they don't wobbly, nothing. Respond immediately, too.
I use the keyboard literally all the time, as I also use it as a screen protection during travel. (and I write. A lot.) What damage? Stop spouting nonsense.
I had to Google screen bleed to know what the hell they meant. Nope, none to be found.
It's not slow. Stop trying to watch a film while you're gaming.
And I got mine a week before the release. so the first production line. (As the European Mainland also got it earlier than the US)

ShadowLea said:
The thing is this: Happy people are quiet people. They don't bother to go somewhere and leave a positive review. So what you'll find here is a handful of grumphy users, only a tiny segment of the thousands of buyers.
I'm very happy with my Infinity. No issues at all.
So a few games in the Playstore are listed as incompatible. How is this the device's fault?! (Yes, people are seriously whining about that.) That's like saying it's your cat's fault they don't sell Whiskas in the shop... Bloody ridiculous. The games work fine, anyway.
And yes, copying is a little slow. Ever tried to copy 3GB worth of images in Windows? Same bloody thing.
And the volume keys are perfectly solid. they don't wobbly, nothing. Respond immediately, too.
I use the keyboard literally all the time, as I also use it as a screen protection during travel. (and I write. A lot.) What damage? Stop spouting nonsense.
I had to Google screen bleed to know what the hell they meant. Nope, none to be found.
It's not slow. Stop trying to watch a film while you're gaming.
And I got mine a week before the release. so the first production line. (As the European Mainland also got it earlier than the US)
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I wholeheartedly agree. If you search this forum you'll find lots of complaints of issues both real and unrealistic. I think many of the users with lag issues are pushing the tablet way beyond reasonable expectations. They represent a tiny portion of Infinity owners, the rest of whom are quite satisified the the tablet's quality, including myself.

Firebrazer said:
Slow I/O and slow stock software is all I have. I have no hardware-related problems, like the ones mentioned above. If I had, I would probably have traded it in before I unlocked it.
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Well if i had known that the tablet would begin to have screen lift which would then escalade and cause screen bleed after the first 3 weeks of use.
i sure wouldnt have bought or unlocked it in the first place... it had nothing when i got it... i have done nothing to cause these problems..
i always carry my tablet in a sleeve and never even leaves it laying on a table without placing it on top of the sleeve...
also the volume rocker is getting looser and looser the more i use it which is getting on my nerves
and actually i do know that the hardware issues will never be fixed.. as they never did on the tf200....
and btw i see no usable workaround for the slow IO speeds as i need the micro sd card slot and have more than one card.. so i cant just be limited to a non removable sd card due to data2sd..

and actually i do know that the hardware issues will never be fixed..
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That seems like something ASUS would do (or rather won't do). I have gone through 2 Nexus 7, both C90 that had the exact same issues that plagued the first batches (C50 and such). I returned them both and decided to choose a higher tier price product. I wasn't expecting something in this price range to have so many issues. Hope the Nexus 10 turns out better.

Some more questions :
- the problem with slow I/O, is it wide-spread ? Are all TF700 affected or only some depending on factors like : memory size, manufacturing date etc.
- does ASUS use the same numbering system as in the case of Nexus 7 ? C90 for a device made in 2012 (C in hex is 12), on the 9-th month - september ?
- is the dock really worth it, can I buy it without it for a lower price ?

1: Yes, it is very widespread. It can be fixed with CustomROMs though.
2: No idea, tbh. I haven't looked into it.
3: I believe the dock is worth it, but you can buy the tablet without it. I use the dock a lot, and it's nice to have the extra battery power. Comes in handy.

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Some more questions :
- the problem with slow I/O, is it wide-spread ? Are all TF700 affected or only some depending on factors like : memory size, manufacturing date etc.
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It affects all units.
- does ASUS use the same numbering system as in the case of Nexus 7 ? C90 for a device made in 2012 (C in hex is 12), on the 9-th month - september ?
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Interesting... Quite possibly so. I have a C60 and I bought it in early August. Most now I see are C80's.
is the dock really worth it, can I buy it without it for a lower price ?
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Depends on what you use it for. It's got a USB port, SD slot and 4-7 hours of extra battery at intensive use. Plus it makes a great stand, and the keyboard is fully functional, it can be used to navigate, even. (it's 10'1"of OCD, so that helps keep the screen clean.) It also provides extra protection, as it closes like a laptop. (And charges whilst docked, even when asleep). I hate typing on a screen whilst holding said screen. it leaves marks, isn't comfortable and it gives me a sore neck. (I write entire novels. not 140 characters max.)
I don't know where you are, but some countries sell the tablet without dock, and some don't.

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The thing is this: Happy people are quiet people. They don't bother to go somewhere and leave a positive review. So what you'll find here is a handful of grumphy users, only a tiny segment of the thousands of buyers.
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This argument is entirely correct. Forums always have a negative bias.
So a few games in the Playstore are listed as incompatible. How is this the device's fault?! (Yes, people are seriously whining about that.) That's like saying it's your cat's fault they don't sell Whiskas in the shop... Bloody ridiculous. The games work fine, anyway.
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This ^^ and the fact that sideloading is so easy. You could even ask someone to install it temporarily and forward the apk or TiB files to you, and there are numerous sites that allow download of the apk files themselves anyway.
And the volume keys are perfectly solid. they don't wobbly, nothing. Respond immediately, too.
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I've never understood the argument of presumably floppy volume buttons. How many times in a day do you actually adjust volume? It's practically always on Vibrate mode for me (and when I watch a movie or documentary, I changed it with a swipe on-screen -- DICE Player ftw). One of the most irrelevant arguments against the 700 in my opinion.
I use the keyboard literally all the time, as I also use it as a screen protection during travel. (and I write. A lot.) What damage? Stop spouting nonsense.
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Same here -- only comes off when the kids play a game. I don;t have microscopically-enabled eyesight anymore (laser refraction surgery), but I cannot spot a single scratch either, no matter how tiny. Isn't that easy to accomplish on Corning's glass overall, unless you unleash unholy punishment on the screen. On any device, the odds are off, then... (I remember bragging about Gorilla Glass to some friends we were having over for dinner, and rubbing a metal spoon on the screen of my LG Optimux 2x. Very enthusiastically. It scratched. Clearly and obviously. )
I had to Google screen bleed to know what the hell they meant. Nope, none to be found.
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Most LCD screens suffer from some form of light bleed due to the backlighting, but I've never had it to any appreciable degree on my device either.
It's not slow. Stop trying to watch a film while you're gaming.
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Why did I not try this? Plants vs. Zombies with Stick It!-ed video. Wow. Good deal!
By the way: Plants vs. ZOmbies is a good example of a "not compatible" game. Sideload it, get the data folder from a shady site (hell, you may even pm me) and it runs. Initial loading and level endings are pretty slow, but in-game, runs nicely.
And I got mine a week before the release. so the first production line. (As the European Mainland also got it earlier than the US)
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Breda? or Zwolle? I took a motorcycle to Breda -- had it almost three weeks before the European release. My 700 has no issues at all. Not a creak, not a lift, not a scratch. Only I/O -- all units have this -- but a cROm fixed that.
BTrack said:
I wholeheartedly agree. If you search this forum you'll find lots of complaints of issues both real and unrealistic. I think many of the users with lag issues are pushing the tablet way beyond reasonable expectations.
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I noticied the I/O issue early, clearly and frequently. It was there on a low level as well, not only when pushing the device. As it stands, I would contest your statement.
They represent a tiny portion of Infinity owners, the rest of whom are quite satisified the the tablet's quality, including myself.
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With the exception of ASUS'poor choice regarding internal memory (see above), the other issues are relatively infrequent (and probably not that severe in most cases; note the use of the term "relatively"). I'm *very* happy with my CleanROMmed 700.
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Well if i had known that the tablet would begin to have screen lift which would then escalade and cause screen bleed after the first 3 weeks of use.i sure wouldnt have bought or unlocked it in the first place... it had nothing when i got it... i have done nothing to cause these problems...
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No, but you should've RMA'd the device. The cause is clearly on AUS'side, but you canot blame them for voiding your warranty before you actually made sure your device was OK. that's your responsibility as a buyer/unlocker. How do you know your actions (whatever they may have been) didn't cause or exacerbate the issues your device now seems to have? (I am not saying they did -- I do not know either.)
i always carry my tablet in a sleeve and never even leaves it laying on a table without placing it on top of the sleeve...
also the volume rocker is getting looser and looser the more i use it which is getting on my nerves
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Mine is in a leather sleeve, but takes quite a beating for that scenario. No issues whatsoever.
and actually i do know that the hardware issues will never be fixed.. as they never did on the tf200....
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No, should they magically replace parts in our devices long-distance? That would rock! Hell, if they just send that engineer, I'll make him a cup of tea -- he can even sleep in the guestroom!
and btw i see no usable workaround for the slow IO speeds as i need the micro sd card slot and have more than one card.. so i cant just be limited to a non removable sd card due to data2sd..
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I/O is OK on CleanROM, and I do not have data2sd enabled.
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Some more questions :
- the problem with slow I/O, is it wide-spread ? Are all TF700 affected or only some depending on factors like : memory size, manufacturing date etc.
- does ASUS use the same numbering system as in the case of Nexus 7 ? C90 for a device made in 2012 (C in hex is 12), on the 9-th month - september ?
- is the dock really worth it, can I buy it without it for a lower price ?
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1. All units are affected, and gicen ASUS'track record with the TF201, all units released to market in the future will be affected.
2. Nobody knows except ASUS. Might be worth taking to Gary Key. I have an early unit without any issues, and so have lots of others in here. I do not believe the serial number is an accurate preictor of sorts for any issues that particular device may or may not have.
3. Obviously, the device is available without the dock, but I love it. I would not even consider buying it without the dock. Prime selling point for me.[/QUOTE]

MartyHulskemper said:
Breda? or Zwolle? I took a motorcycle to Breda -- had it almost three weeks before the European release. My 700 has no issues at all. Not a creak, not a lift, not a scratch. Only I/O -- all units have this -- but a cROm fixed that.
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Zwolle. (Bit closer ) Took them half an hour to find the thing in storage xD The idiot came back with an iPad at first. I think he's still a bit scared of me, saw him here recently at Media Markt, he ran away! xD

I'm really disappointed. Such a powerful CPU/GPU combo, such a good display (at least resolution-wise, there aren't many other Android tablets that can compete with the retina iPads from this point of view) and ASUS had to ruin it all by making these small mistakes (well, the I/O thing is not so small) and, even worse, not invest anything into fixing them. I think I'll wait for the Nexus 10 and hope that Samsung took its time designing it and ironing out all the bugs.

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Zwolle. (Bit closer ) Took them half an hour to find the thing in storage xD The idiot came back with an iPad at first. I think he's still a bit scared of me, saw him here recently at Media Markt, he ran away! xD
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Are you such a scary lady? Mmmmh.... Hahaha! Mine was dumped in a framework container with some TF201 Primes -- unlabeled, no pricing, no advertising. The girl I asked first didn't know what I was talking about and went to some guy to ask, and he turned out to be the one who dumped them there just 15 minutes earlier. Hadn't even had the time to look up for which price they were leaving the store.

I'm sure you'll be happy to hear the Nexus 10 has ANR errors in the browser, too, then. ...Not happy with it? Oh well.
And there's plenty of Google Issue Reports regarding random freeze and reboots for the Nexus 10. This one, for instance: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=39879 Or even here on XDA: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998496
Or maybe we should mention the WiFi issues? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1995833
Or maybe the Lightbleed?
How about the lousy battery life?
It doesn't have a MicroSD slot. For me, this is enough reason not to consider the N10.
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Are you such a scary lady? Mmmmh.... Hahaha! Mine was dumped in a framework container with some TF201 Primes -- unlabeled, no pricing, no advertising. The girl I asked first didn't know what I was talking about and went to some guy to ask, and he turned out to be the one who dumped them there just 15 minutes earlier. Hadn't even had the time to look up for which price they were leaving the store.
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I'm generally considered rather frightening, yes.
Over here in the Media Markt they often enough don't even know it's called a Tablet, and not an iPad. They just assume iPad is the name for all tablets. And if you want a non-Apple product, they're somewhere in the far back corner behind all the junk.

The problems that seem to be hardware-related (an therefore not fixable through a software update) are the light bleed, the crappy battery life (which is not all that bad but, still, doesn't even come close to the iPad) and, maybe, the WiFi connectivity issue. I have to admit, those don't look too good. And I bet that, as time passes, more will be found. I always wondered why so many people go the iPad route instead of choosing an Android tablet. It's the apps, sure, but also the feeling of a higher quality product. So, in the end, what's the best high-res Android tablet ?

nice phone

Got my new device and m happy .wht i do with new device let me know

I've seen better phones than the tf700...you must have massive hands XD as for what to do with it, I guess that depends whether your planning on installing custom roms etc
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I've seen better phones than the tf700...you must have massive hands XD as for what to do with it
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Yeah, one-handed calling is a definite no-no. I tried my ASUS TF700T phone in a full train compartment, but all my fellow passengers were looking at me in a funny way. That might have been me almost screaming to get any reception in the microphone of the 700, though. Also, they could probably hear the conversation better than I did, the speaker being at the back of the phone and all.

Huh?
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Got my new device and m happy .wht i do with new device let me know
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Looks very practical.

nabilsweet007 said:
Got my new device and m happy .wht i do with new device let me know
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Ummm...glad that you are happy with it.
What you can do with it is:
Web browse
Read books
Take pictures
Shoot video
Write letters
E-mail send and receive
Play a game
Watch streaming video
Jot down hand written notes
Store files from a PC
...just a few things you can do
I don't believe you can actually use it for a phone.
Have fun with your device.

The Asus TF700, the latest phone for giants, mountains and skyscrapers.

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The Asus TF700, the latest phone for giants, mountains and skyscrapers.
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Heh. :highfive: The rest of you hobbits go buy something else.

Anyone tried bluetooth for talking on the phone with tf700?

I can't see why it wouldn't assuming you have the 3g model. I've connected with a jaw bone hands free a few times for Skype etc
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Following this current trend of stupidly large screens... I wouldn't be surprised if people used it as a phone..

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Following this current trend of stupidly large screens... I wouldn't be surprised if people used it as a phone..
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x51 said:
Following this current trend of stupidly large screens... I wouldn't be surprised if people used it as a phone..
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I've actually seen people do it. I always smirk when they try and take an artsy photograph with it -- last summer, I was witness to a group of Japanese tourists snapping pictures of the animals in a large zoo in Amsterdam (Artis, for the Dutch). Hilarious.
For the sake of information and blowing off some quirkyness: before my eye surgery, I had great eyesight and lugged around a D90 with glass in abundance on trips like that. No way I'm taking pictures with a tablet -- that would feel like being recruited into a police riot squad and getting your equipment, then noticing the rather disconcerting likeness of your baton to a large German sausage and your riot shield's resemblance to an American pizza... until you realize that they are, actually, a German sausage and a big-wheel pizza.

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I've actually seen people do it. I always smirk when they try and take an artsy photograph with it -- last summer, I was witness to a group of Japanese tourists snapping pictures of the animals in a large zoo in Amsterdam (Artis, for the Dutch). Hilarious.
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That... doesn't always go so well. Some idiot did that at the zoo in Dresden, too. All fun and games... Until he dropped his iPad 3 in the water at the flamingo habitat.... Then I was the only one laughing :silly:
For the sake of information and blowing off some quirkyness: before my eye surgery, I had great eyesight and lugged around a D90 with glass in abundance on trips like that. No way I'm taking pictures with a tablet -- that would feel like being recruited into a police riot squad and getting your equipment, then noticing the rather disconcerting likeness of your baton to a large German sausage and your riot shield's resemblance to an American pizza... until you realize that they are, actually, a German sausage and a big-wheel pizza.
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:laugh::laugh::laugh: Oh god, that mental image made my day! :laugh::laugh::laugh:

LOL....
You two make me giggle so much!
Shooting video with a tablet is kind of sneaky and cool tho...
A lot people don't know tablets can be cameras.

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LOL....
You two make me giggle so much!
Shooting video with a tablet is kind of sneaky and cool tho...
A lot people don't know tablets can be cameras.
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Thanks, regard that as a compliment.
I was surprised to learn that in some countries it is actually against the law to have your digital camera not make a fake shutter sound when photographing. That seemed jaw-droppingly stupid -- as I've always hated people with digital shutter soudns, as well as people having keypad sounds on their phones (makes dialing go "beep-beepbeeeeeepbop-booop-beepbeepbeep-baab). The latter class also talks so loud when in phone conversation that there's no place to hide on the commute. I can still hear them on the other end the train -- until it was put forward that, seemingly, a high percentage of silent cameras was used to make up-skirt photos and such. Seems I missed the point entirely in having a silent camera, since I've been making pretty "decent" pictures of flowers and animals and such. There's no eroticism in that, unless you have some specific kind of sexual deviation.

I've actually used the TF700 as a phone on several occaisions with GrooveIP. It's actually pretty nice with a bluetooth headset, but I'd never put it up to my face because a) can you imagine the nasty cheek grease? and b) no proximity sensor to turn the screen off.

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I've actually used the TF700 as a phone on several occaisions with GrooveIP. It's actually pretty nice with a bluetooth headset, but I'd never put it up to my face because a) can you imagine the nasty cheek grease? and b) no proximity sensor to turn the screen off.
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That might actually be an advantage: currently it's freezing over here in Holland. If I'd put the screen brightness on high and just pretend to be on the phone with somebody, I'd at least have half of my face warmed up comfortably. I wouldn't worry that much about people looking, because they probably think I'm retarded anyway.

Well, I suppose you could do VOIP through your tab. Skype and such would be a way, but that doesn't count as a telephone.
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LOL....
You two make me giggle so much!
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Well, that's a new one. Usually people are more inclined to hit me xD
MartyHulskemper said:
Thanks, regard that as a compliment.
I was surprised to learn that in some countries it is actually against the law to have your digital camera not make a fake shutter sound when photographing. That seemed jaw-droppingly stupid -- as I've always hated people with digital shutter soudns, as well as people having keypad sounds on their phones (makes dialing go "beep-beepbeeeeeepbop-booop-beepbeepbeep-baab). The latter class also talks so loud when in phone conversation that there's no place to hide on the commute. I can still hear them on the other end the train -- until it was put forward that, seemingly, a high percentage of silent cameras was used to make up-skirt photos and such. Seems I missed the point entirely in having a silent camera, since I've been making pretty "decent" pictures of flowers and animals and such. There's no eroticism in that, unless you have some specific kind of sexual deviation.
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Seriously? That's ridiculous. If you have such a problem with people taking picture up your skirt, pay some bloody attention to your surroundings, it's not hard, or simply don't wear a frikkin skirt. I never saw the point of them.
Yes, let's put the sound back on our shutters. Because it's such a good plan to use a shutter sound when photographing a herd of, say, deer. Scares the bloody sh*t out of them, forget about making a second shot. Not to mention butterflies, cats... And don't get me started on people. Taking urban snaps is pretty much pointless if everyone goes either looking straight at you to see what you're doing, or runs away because they're camera shy. Evidently laws are made by morons.
That's why I'm always in the silent coupé. No idiots on phones
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That might actually be an advantage: currently it's freezing over here in Holland. If I'd put the screen brightness on high and just pretend to be on the phone with somebody, I'd at least have half of my face warmed up comfortably. I wouldn't worry that much about people looking, because they probably think I'm retarded anyway.
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So, If I see a retard on the station using his tablet as a fake phone, I'll know it's you

ShadowLea said:
So, If I see a retard on the station using his tablet as a fake phone, I'll know it's you
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Yup. Find out before I spot you, because otherwise you'll have no time to run. </creepy retard mode> You might think I was a cretin -- although I *think* I do not look like one -- but at leats I'd be a suspected cretin with a warm ear.
Shame of the one that froze up.

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but at leats I'd be a suspected cretin with a warm ear.
Shame of the one that froze up.
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Simple solution: use a real phone on your other ear - or even better: buy another TF700 and use that.
1 TF700 .... $ 700
Another TF 700 .... $ 500
Seeing the faces of the people around you: priceless

Elevate Sports Armsleeve

The one and only thing that frustrates me about the Galaxy line is the lack of sports cases/bands that fit well, protect the phone and are comfortable. I've gone through a half dozen since the SGSII and they all sucked. And some were outright highway robbery for what they offered.
This Elevate Sleeve on Kickstarter looks like it has good potential. I'd back it, but the creator will only support bigger devices if he gets more than 25 requests. If anyone also thinks this could be the right sports case, head over and make a request for the SGSIV. There are other "sleeve" type cases, even a couple from Kickstarter, but they are just like the armbands, not real high quality, look cheap and still have that raggedy plastic face.

I was going to buy something similar from nike yesterday, but the last time I checked it out I didn't notice, it was for iphones/ipods.....I was seriously bummed.
Big thanks for posting this and getting my hope up a little bit!!
If I understood correctly, then they consider requests, not how many will actually going to buy this?? Everyone who even likes the idea....start emailing
The price is actually quite good too.....~10€ more expensive than the nike's long sleeves that were 50% off, but the elevate definitely seems alot nicer!!!

Just_s said:
The one and only thing that frustrates me about the Galaxy line is the lack of sports cases/bands that fit well, protect the phone and are comfortable. I've gone through a half dozen since the SGSII and they all sucked. And some were outright highway robbery for what they offered.
This Elevate Sleeve on Kickstarter looks like it has good potential. I'd back it, but the creator will only support bigger devices if he gets more than 25 requests. If anyone also thinks this could be the right sports case, head over and make a request for the SGSIV. There are other "sleeve" type cases, even a couple from Kickstarter, but they are just like the armbands, not real high quality, look cheap and still have that raggedy plastic face.
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Hope he didn't do too much so searching for that idea
http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/pd/forearm-sleeve-sleeve/pid-581614

warnette said:
Hope he didn't do too much so searching for that idea
http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/pd/forearm-sleeve-sleeve/pid-581614
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Yeah, as I mentioned above, there are several other sleeve-style cases, but none that don't suck. I'm guessing you haven't used the NIKE version, which doesn't fit an SGSIV with or without a case on it, nor is it comfortable. Also the NIKE sleeve has the same cheap plastic face and the phone sits on the underside of your forearm rather than the top (very uncomfortable position when running IMO.) Sadly, it is still the best of the cases I've tried, too bad it doesn't work with anything but an old iPhone I use as an iPod.
I'd wager that this or even this were as much an inspiration as the NIKE+ sleeve for the Elevate.
If your criteria for buying something is that it be an original idea, your place must be empty. We don't come across may truly original ideas in the world we live in today. I'll happily take an innovation on an existing product in lieu of an original/bleeding edge product if it gets the job done. If we didn't buy better versions of existing products, we wouldn't have iOS nor Android devices, now would we?
That said, the Elevate is an unproven product, not unlike the betas we all like to run here at XDA, so I am not touting it as the end-all-be-all in fitness cases. From the specs and the prototype, it certainly looks like an innovation over the NIKE version. I'm also not asking anyone else to back the product. I'm just hoping that some folks will head over and chime in for the S4 so that if I decide to back it, I will have a case to receive.

warnette said:
Hope he didn't do too much so searching for that idea
http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/pd/forearm-sleeve-sleeve/pid-581614
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That's exactly where there problem started, it's for the iphone...a tiny inferior phone.....a lot of useful stuff is produced for iphones/ipods only because they get to link their product with apple's name....but the rest of us have to suffer...
The approach on the materials is nice...shows that more consideration has gone into the product plus a possibility to get it for other phones as well....at least that seemed to be the idea behind this thread....

alliktaavo said:
That's exactly where there problem started, it's for the iphone...a tiny inferior phone.....a lot of useful stuff is produced for iphones/ipods only because they get to link their product with apple's name....but the rest of us have to suffer...
The approach on the materials is nice...shows that more consideration has gone into the product plus a possibility to get it for other phones as well....at least that seemed to be the idea behind this thread....
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Bingo!
And as of today, they only need 17 more requests to make this for the S4.
(Potential) Backers — Here's a quick update on the request count that we've gotten so far. Looks like S4 is our most popular so far. Not surprised. Just 17 more requests and we're adding it to the production list.

I put in my request yesterday! Hopefully we get enough for our S4's to be accommodated because this sleeve looks amazing! :good:

I've asked the maker to consider a semi universal sleeve for larger (not the largest, sorry Note folks) phones as this range is relatively similar in size.
Visual Comparison and SIze Specs

Found this kickstarter the other day and backed it. Seems to have a lot of potential if it'll fit the bigger phones (S3/S4)

Here come tanless watches

When I was growing up my dad always wore a wrist watch. On the few occasions he ever took it off, it looked like he was still wearing something around his wrist due to the absense of the massive tan he got from working outside.
I think a wrist phone is a great idea, but wouldn't buy one unless it could actually function as a phone. I personally hate wrist watches, but would start to like them if I could remove the phone from my pocket, and I'm sure a lot of others would too.

Ha, I just got my Gear 2 and started wearing it when I take my daily walk. The first thing I thought of was that this was going to mess up my tan.

JimSmith94 said:
Ha, I just got my Gear 2 and started wearing it when I take my daily walk. The first thing I thought of was that this was going to mess up my tan.
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How shallow are you people...

They should hand these out at the park - save my eyes :laugh:

vulcanvillalta said:
As a Vulcan, I don't see the point of tanning, aside from fulfilling your human need for vitamin D. Tan lines are no indication of a man's character.
The usefulness of this watch clearly compromises the curiously vogue impression of the importance of attractiveness.
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The importance of attraction is different to people in this day and age, for some people, they feel a lot better mentally when they know they're looking good.

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fuzzy7k said:
When I was growing up my dad always wore a wrist watch. On the few occasions he ever took it off, it looked like he was still wearing something around his wrist due to the absense of the massive tan he got from working outside.
I think a wrist phone is a great idea, but wouldn't buy one unless it could actually function as a phone. I personally hate wrist watches, but would start to like them if I could remove the phone from my pocket, and I'm sure a lot of others would too.
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I don't think this would be possible. With the moving parts and displays on the watch, it would be impossible for it to be tan through. But it is a great idea!

I too think that is a good idea.

JimSmith94 said:
Ha, I just got my Gear 2 and started wearing it when I take my daily walk. The first thing I thought of was that this was going to mess up my tan.
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Honestly I do not recommend you to use the smartwatch under the scorching sun for too long, I think that the screen may be affected

fuzzy7k said:
When I was growing up my dad always wore a wrist watch. On the few occasions he ever took it off, it looked like he was still wearing something around his wrist due to the absense of the massive tan he got from working outside.
I think a wrist phone is a great idea, but wouldn't buy one unless it could actually function as a phone. I personally hate wrist watches, but would start to like them if I could remove the phone from my pocket, and I'm sure a lot of others would too.
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I don't understand so many things about this. You're right that this would be popular; I've read a lot of people making the same comment, but why?
A. Full Android watches with SIMs and everything have existed for years. If that's what you want why don't you have one already?
B. The whole point is to be able to to have a personal area network with a single control unit managing the experience across all of your contacted devices, not a series of independent devices each vying for your attention in a disjointed way. Think of the watch as an extension of your existing phone that you can access without having to pull the phone out of your pocket, enter your pin, find your app, and finally do an action. This also allows the watch to offload the heavy processing tasks to the powerful device you already have in your pocket 99% of the time. What good is having your phone, and a second, less powerful processor in your watch both running 100% of the operations in parallel?

Rather look pasty white than have skin damage, in the worst case skin cancer is not very attractive.

Incognitum said:
I don't understand so many things about this. You're right that this would be popular; I've read a lot of people making the same comment, but why?
A. Full Android watches with SIMs and everything have existed for years. If that's what you want why don't you have one already?
B. The whole point is to be able to to have a personal area network with a single control unit managing the experience across all of your contacted devices, not a series of independent devices each vying for your attention in a disjointed way. Think of the watch as an extension of your existing phone that you can access without having to pull the phone out of your pocket, enter your pin, find your app, and finally do an action. This also allows the watch to offload the heavy processing tasks to the powerful device you already have in your pocket 99% of the time. What good is having your phone, and a second, less powerful processor in your watch both running 100% of the operations in parallel?
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The reason your logic isn't working is because you assume that people would still carry a second device. Not everybody wants a powerful device because not everybody plays games, or surfs the internet or other things that require a larger screen.
Another question similar to the one you are asking is, why would people buy a tablet when their phone can already do everything and more than it can do.
If there was a choice between a pocket phone with an optional wrist device, or a wrist phone with an optional reading device, a lot of people would go for the smaller, highly mobile wrist phone.
It wouldn't interfere with mobility and it would be readily available.
Something else that may be bogus, but would probably factor into some people's decisions is that it would distance the RF source from reproductive organs.

Ziago said:
Honestly I do not recommend you to use the smartwatch under the scorching sun for too long, I think that the screen may be affected
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will it really be affected? i mean all the gears are out there... and there are to be worn and designed most of the time and probably under scorching sun?

I also thought this seemed like a good idea, Android on your wrist. So I bought a cheap one to see.
I got one from Chinavasion(can't posts links yet obviously). The one I got was the "3G Android Watch Phone 'FineWatch' - MTK6577 Dual Core 1GHz CPU, 2 Inch IPS Screen, 4GB ROM, 8GB Additional Memory" because it seemed to have be biggest screen and the best hardware of the no-name ones.
But the android version is horrible on the device, and I kinda wanna install a new one. Watch can't log on to my google account, due to it not understanding the 2-step vertification procedure. And it has no Google play, browser doesn't show any images when browing play.google.com etc. All-in-all horrible, is there a way to fix this by installing a more normal version of Android? Like without bricking it or using the old version?
Can someone point me in the right direction to make this watch the best I ever wore?