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Downgrading from Android O DP2 to 7.1.2 no TWRP

I was enrolled in the Android O Beta Program and followed these steps but can't get TWRP to boot:
• Un-enroll from O beta
• Take OTA to downgrade to 7.1.2 N2G470
• Set up system (dev. options, enable USB debugging, etc.)
• fastboot boot twrp-3.0.2-0-RC1.img
• Boots in to TWRP but doesn't go passed splash screen (after waiting more than 30 minutes)
Not sure if I have to re-flash nougat bootloader, radio and img. Any help is appreciated, thanks!

It's a known issue with TWRP with way O repartitions your phone even after downgrade. You'll have to wait for an update to be released to accommodate the changes in partition structure.

You'll have to flash the factory images from April or May to both slot before it will work again properly

S8ntsHaz3 said:
You'll have to flash the factory images from April or May to both slot before it will work again properly
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Gotcha, I'll give it a shot tonight.

No problem

S8ntsHaz3 said:
You'll have to flash the factory images from April or May to both slot before it will work again properly
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This is correct.. all you need to do is flash the factory images to BOTH slots and you'll be good to go.. I went through this issue myself and once I did this, everything is back to normal

pahlerc1 said:
This is correct.. all you need to do is flash the factory images to BOTH slots and you'll be good to go.. I went through this issue myself and once I did this, everything is back to normal
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Perfect. Thanks for looking out dudes.

That's what this place is for!!!

S8ntsHaz3 said:
You'll have to flash the factory images from April or May to both slot before it will work again properly
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I've tried multiple times to get this booted to both slots and can't seem to get it right. Can you provide steps how to flash to both slots?

I use the unified android toolkit. I'm just learning all of this myself but I know there's a guide on here somewhere that can explain it better than my self. I believe it involved getting the factory image and removing the -w from the flashall file. I'm sorry I cant be of more help!!

S8ntsHaz3 said:
I use the unified android toolkit. I'm just learning all of this myself but I know there's a guide on here somewhere that can explain it better than my self. I believe it involved getting the factory image and removing the -w from the flashall file. I'm sorry I cant be of more help!!
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Thanks, I'll look around, but if anyone has a link I'd appreciate it

In my experience if you flash the factory images twice it's flashes to both slots

Finally got the image flashed to both slots. Now for some reason I always get a bootloop after flashing the twrp installer. fml

chesstopher said:
Finally got the image flashed to both slots. Now for some reason I always get a bootloop after flashing the twrp installer. fml
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On the May update?
You need to install the zip from inside twrp that is in the first post of the thread below. Need to do that when you root, twrp or change kernels.
So fastboot boot to twrp again and adb push the zip to the phone and install it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...signing-boot-images-android-verified-t3600606

TonikJDK said:
On the May update?
You need to install the zip from inside twrp that is in the first post of the thread below. Need to do that when you root, twrp or change kernels.
So fastboot boot to twrp again and adb push the zip to the phone and install it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...signing-boot-images-android-verified-t3600606
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Yup, I was on the may update, had no idea they changed anything up in May. What I did was reboot the system, download the twrp zip, fast boot back to twrp and flash the zip, resulted in boot loop. I'll try flashing the verified bootsigner later and if that doesn't work, I'll try rolling back to April.

Flashing the bootsigner did the trick. Thanks for all the help!

enrolled android beta program for almost a day, battery consumes very much.
Now flashing the full May image, but after finishing flash, the phone can't boot into system.
It persisted in four turning dots for almost half an hour.
Tried to re-flash the may image, it did no help.
What should I do, mate?
chesstopher said:
Flashing the bootsigner did the trick. Thanks for all the help!
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bush911 said:
enrolled android beta program for almost a day, battery consumes very much.
Now flashing the full May image, but after finishing flash, the phone can't boot into system.
It persisted in four turning dots for almost half an hour.
Tried to re-flash the may image, it did no help.
What should I do, mate?
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Sorry man, I've been away from my computer for a couple days. Glad to see you got it figured out. What worked for me was booting into twrp from fastboot, flashing the twrp zip, flashing the latest bootsigner zip from CF, reboot recovery then following the steps to flash PA + gapps that I had downloaded previously.:good:

Couldn't install system update (november security patch)

I have just received the OTA and it is failing to install...
Anybody else facing this issue? Any ideas on how to fix it?
I have my Pixel 2 rooted right now, not sure if this can affect OTA?

luizffgarcia said:
I have my Pixel 2 rooted right now, not sure if this can affect OTA?
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Being rooted is your issue

krelvinaz said:
Being rooted is your issue
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What is the easiest way around it then? Do i have to download the factory image and flash it losing everything i have configured? Or is there another way?

https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/blob/master/docs/tips.md#ota-installation-tips
Follow them steps
Nothing seems to work for me though i cant install ota no matter what but hopefully it should work for you.
It has for everyone else!

UpGrad3 said:
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/blob/master/docs/tips.md#ota-installation-tips
Follow them steps
Nothing seems to work for me though i cant install ota no matter what but hopefully it should work for you.
It has for everyone else!
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Thanks but this also does not work for me, it starts step 1 but then the installation fails...
Any other options?
EDIT: LOL and now i lost magisk and root

luizffgarcia said:
Thanks but this also does not work for me, it starts step 1 but then the installation fails...
Any other options?
EDIT: LOL and now i lost magisk and root
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I'm in the same boat...dies at step 1. Look familiar?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74518728&postcount=53
Only I didn't lose root, as I re-installed Magisk before rebooting.

JayBlack_686 said:
I'm in the same boat...dies at step 1. Look familiar?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74518728&postcount=53
Only I didn't lose root, as I re-installed Magisk before rebooting.
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Yeah i sideloaded the OTA and it worked, but now i am struggling to put back snoke and magisk...
Every time i try i get stuck in the google logo, not sure whats going wrong

luizffgarcia said:
Yeah i sideloaded the OTA and it worked, but now i am struggling to put back snoke and magisk...
Every time i try i get stuck in the google logo, not sure whats going wrong
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That happened the first time I tried to root. Had to flash the factory image and start over. Guess I could do that...but seems there has to be an easier way. I'm really curious why the method in that guide doesn't work for me.

Does flashfire work to install the OTA?

luizffgarcia said:
Thanks but this also does not work for me, it starts step 1 but then the installation fails...
Any other options?
EDIT: LOL and now i lost magisk and root
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JayBlack_686 said:
I'm in the same boat...dies at step 1. Look familiar?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74518728&postcount=53
Only I didn't lose root, as I re-installed Magisk before rebooting.
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Download the full factory image. Open the flash all bat file with notepad and edit out the -w and save it. Then run it. That will flash the full factory image but leave apps and data in place.
Then you reroot it.

TonikJDK said:
Download the full factory image. Open the flash all bat file with notepad and edit out the -w and save it. Then run it. That will flash the full factory image but leave apps and data in place.
Then you reroot it.
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Thanks. When I re-root, do I need to do the whole patch boot image process again? Or should I reuse the patched_boot.img that I used when I rooted the first time?

JayBlack_686 said:
Thanks. When I re-root, do I need to do the whole patch boot image process again? Or should I reuse the patched_boot.img that I used when I rooted the first time?
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Redo it, otherwise you are a month behind on the boot IMG.

TonikJDK said:
Redo it, otherwise you are a month behind on the boot IMG.
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Thank you. One last question: when I rooted, I used the snoke kernel and pointed to that .img file when patching the boot image (no reason, other than that's what everyone seemed to be using when root first happened). It sounds like this time, I should get the full factory image, extract, grab the boot.img from within that and patch THAT to be up to date. Correct?

JayBlack_686 said:
Thank you. One last question: when I rooted, I used the snoke kernel and pointed to that .img file when patching the boot image (no reason, other than that's what everyone seemed to be using when root first happened). It sounds like this time, I should get the full factory image, extract, grab the boot.img from within that and patch THAT to be up to date. Correct?
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Correct, you can use whatever boot IMG you want. Snoke may be updated to November... don't know...bit if it is and you like it use it.

Waiting for answers. I finally succeeded with rooting my xiaomi mi a2 lite, everything works perfect, I was so excited to install Xposed but then my phone started to lag AF. I uninstalled it and then the update show up in the notification bar, great but "couldn't install system update". Is it because of the root or TWRP?

[Guide] Update and Retain Root

*Note* Some people have had success with this, while some others have not. You do this at your own risk.
Prerequisites:
Magisk Manager might need to be unhidden based on reports from some users.
Magisk needs to have a backup of stock boot.img.
Preserve AVB 2.0/dm-verity must be enabled. (Have gotten mixed reports on this it might or might not be needed)
Check the following post if you don't meet the prerequisites
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=81186247&postcount=73
Update Process
When phone detects update
1. Disable any desired Magisk modules, ex. Edxposed (I usually disable all modules just to be safe)
2. Reboot
3. In Magisk, select Uninstall, press Restore Images
4. Do NOT Reboot
5. Install OTA Update via Settings -> System -> System Updates
6. When prompted to reboot, Do NOT Reboot
7. In Magisk Manager press Install
8. Select Install to Inactive Slot
9. Reboot
10. Enable the Magisk modules one by one
In case of bootloop after enabling a module there are 2 ways that I know of on how to retain root and fix bootloop.
One requires ADB
While phone is stuck in bootloop, connect phone to PC and run this commands via ADB.
adb wait-for-device shell magisk --remove-modules
adb reboot
This will remove all modules and you should be able to boot.
The second way is via fastboot. More information in this thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-4-xl/themes/magisk-modules-disabler-booting-magisk-t3990557
Some information that might help some people.
eg1122 said:
I know some users flash patched boot.img that someone else patched, thus bypassing the creation of a backup. I think choosing or not choosing to preserve avb 2.0/dm-verity also affects if phone will take OTA. I always preserve mine and always patch my own boot.img so I haven't ran into any issues. I'll just have to wait and see what happens on my end once I get the update. This reminds me of some issues some people where getting early on when rooting. Some people had to flash the patched boot.img to both a/b slots and some people didn't. Having both slots with a patched boot will also break the restoring of stock boot.img as Magisk only restores the active slot.
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If you do it this way you'll be using the patched boot image from the previous update and not the current one.

airmaxx23 said:
If you do it this way you'll be using the patched boot image from the previous update and not the current one.
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No it doesn't. When you select install to inactive slot it patches the newly installed boot.img that has been installed to the inactive slot. Only reason phone promts you to reboot after an update is to switch slots.

For whatever reason, whenever I would try to do Uninstall - Restore images (in step 3 of the OP), I would get a toast error saying "Stock backup does not exist"
I'm not sure why the expected backup files hadn't been created. I suspect it has to do with the process of manually patching the boot image whilst initially rooting, as suggested in this Git issue.
Anyway, I was ultimately able to work around this, and was eventually able to get Uninstall - Restore images to work.
I wrote about my workaround method here.

pdfruth said:
For whatever reason, whenever I would try to do Uninstall - Restore images (in step 3 of the OP), I would get a toast error saying "Stock backup does not exist"
I'm not sure why the expected backup files hadn't been created. I suspect it has to do with the process of manually patching the boot image whilst initially rooting, as suggested in this Git issue.
Anyway, I was ultimately able to work around this, and was eventually able to get Uninstall - Restore images to work.
I wrote about my workaround method here.
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Yeah, there needs to be a backed up stock boot img for this to work. Being able to restore images the way stated in the issue would solve this as you could just restore a stock boot.img then continue doing the steps.

So does this work for every update? Just do the steps and it works? Im a complete noob when it comes to this stuff i just follow the write ups and pray!

DemonicMurderer said:
So does this work for every update? Just do the steps and it works? Im a complete noob when it comes to this stuff i just follow the write ups and pray!
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Yes, it has worked for me all the time. These are the exact steps recommended by topjohnwu, I just made them more readibly available to users. Here is a link to his tutorial.
https://topjohnwu.github.io/Magisk/tutorials.html#ota-installation

This work for the Verizon Pixel 4 XL???

SAMCR02018 said:
This work for the Verizon Pixel 4 XL???
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Why would you need to since your not rooted with a locked bootloader? Just take the OTA.

Badger50 said:
Why would you need to since your not rooted with a locked bootloader? Just take the OTA.
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Ok the can the Verizon version get the BL unlocked?

SAMCR02018 said:
Ok the can the Verizon version get the BL unlocked?
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Nope. Unless you got lucky and they sold you a google version by mistake.

SAMCR02018 said:
Ok the can the Verizon version get the BL unlocked?
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There is a write up for that.

Does anybody know if this also work with a custom kernel? I thought removing root and let magisk install old (boot) image should reinstall stock boot.img (if magisk first was installed through fastboot with stock kernel). Then i can take ota, patch inactive slot with magisk and then reboot. After reboot i can install custom kernel again througj ex kernel manager app. Does anybody know if this works?

Donric13 said:
Does anybody know if this also work with a custom kernel? I thought removing root and let magisk install old (boot) image should reinstall stock boot.img (if magisk first was installed through fastboot with stock kernel). Then i can take ota, patch inactive slot with magisk and then reboot. After reboot i can install custom kernel again througj ex kernel manager app. Does anybody know if this works?
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Yes this method works with custom kernel. Magisk removed custom kernel when it restores stock boot.img

When does the dec patch come out, on the 5th?
I just started the process then realized it wasn't out yet so I haven't rebooted. When I go to the step of installing to the inactive slot I get a warning that you should only do this after the ota update - does anyone know if I'll be OK to go ahead with it even though I haven't done the ota yet?

in_dmand said:
When does the dec patch come out, on the 5th?
I just started the process then realized it wasn't out yet so I haven't rebooted. When I go to the step of installing to the inactive slot I get a warning that you should only do this after the ota update - does anyone know if I'll be OK to go ahead with it even though I haven't done the ota yet?
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I wouldn't do it until the Dec ota comes out and that may be later today or sometime this week. Which is weird since all the other Pixels got it but hey it's Google

in_dmand said:
When does the dec patch come out, on the 5th?
I just started the process then realized it wasn't out yet so I haven't rebooted. When I go to the step of installing to the inactive slot I get a warning that you should only do this after the ota update - does anyone know if I'll be OK to go ahead with it even though I haven't done the ota yet?
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Since it's not out yet, just do a direct install in Magisk to re-install it

Thanks for this guide !
Does anyone know how to update and maintain root for manually updating using OTA files ? Usually the update takes a long time to reach my phone, so I update using OTA files.

mkpansare said:
Thanks for this guide !
Does anyone know how to update and maintain root for manually updating using OTA files ? Usually the update takes a long time to reach my phone, so I update using OTA files.
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The other way I update is using full factory images. Once you download the zip, extract it and find and open (via Notepad++ or similar advanced text editor) the flash-all.bat or flash-all.sh (depends on your system), find this line
fastboot -w update
replace with
fastboot update
Basically remove the -w, this will prevent a factory reset (wipe) on your device. Once it is done you will need to patch new boot.img via magisk and flash the newly patched boot.img via fastboot.
Hope this helps!
ps. I recommend to always disable Magisk Modules before updating as they could cause FC

eg1122 said:
Since it's not out yet, just do a direct install in Magisk to re-install it
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Thanks that worked perfect... Was gonna be a long week without adblocker and lmt pie lol

Question OTA problems, update options and full factory flash

So for some reason the February update doesn't show up for my in system updates.
To update manually, is it better to download the ota from Google's site and flash that or the newest firmware and flash system?

G5-User7080 said:
So for some reason the February update doesn't show up for my in system updates.
To update manually, is it better to download the ota from Google's site and flash that or the newest firmware and flash system?
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The safest way to update is by sideloading the OTA.
I assume your bootloader is not unlocked; if I am correct, flashing the factory image is not an option.

V0latyle said:
The safest way to update is by sideloading the OTA.
I assume your bootloader is not unlocked; if I am correct, flashing the factory image is not an option.
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Ah sorry for the lack of details.
I'm unlocked and rooted and pass safetynet / play attestation with safetynet-fix-mod by DisplaX
I found your guide about updating etc in the Pixel 6 forum, and since I didn't know if I could just take feb 06 OTA or if I had to flash all previous ones too I just went with the factory image method.
I updated with the same version as I'm running to see if it would offer me to OTA then et voila it does
After I finished updating and did fastboot boot magisk-patched-boot-image.img it did offer me to OTA even tho I failed safety-net / play attestation (probably since I didnt do magisk direct install yet and was just booting the rooted image)
Which made me wonder,.. are you supposed to uninstall magisk before you even click on "system update"?
I thought you just check for updates first and when it shows one you then uninstall magisk.

G5-User7080 said:
Ah sorry for the lack of details.
I'm unlocked and rooted and pass safetynet / play attestation with safetynet-fix-mod by DisplaX
I found your guide about updating etc in the Pixel 6 forum, and since I didn't know if I could just take feb 06 OTA or if I had to flash all previous ones too I just went with the factory image method.
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Current updates have all the updates and fixes from previous releases
G5-User7080 said:
I updated with the same version as I'm running to see if it would offer me to OTA then et voila it does
After I finished updating and did fastboot boot magisk-patched-boot-image.img it did offer me to OTA even tho I failed safety-net / play attestation (probably since I didnt do magisk direct install yet and was just booting the rooted image)
Which made me wonder,.. are you supposed to uninstall magisk before you even click on "system update"?
I thought you just check for updates first and when it shows one you then uninstall magisk.
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Automatic OTA is troublesome when rooted. You don't need to perform a complete uninstall in Magisk; just restore images before you take the update, and make sure that you go back into Magisk and patch the inactive slot before you reboot.

V0latyle said:
Current updates have all the updates and fixes from previous releases
Automatic OTA is troublesome when rooted. You don't need to perform a complete uninstall in Magisk; just restore images before you take the update, and make sure that you go back into Magisk and patch the inactive slot before you reboot.
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yes, that restore original images thing is what I meant, I'm just sticking to the OTA guide from Magisk, thats why I booted the patched boot img and then direct installed through magisk too instead of just flashing it.
Just since I've never done an OTA update before Idk if it shows that updates are available with magisk installed.
Like, if the "restore images" before OTA refers to before I even click on Settings -> System update to check if theres an upate available or if I can like let it download first and then restore it before installation or smth.
It did show it for me now but that was directly after rebooting from updating with factory images, booting rooted boot image but it was before I even direct installed root through magisk.

@V0latyle
mhh alright... I'm never doing OTA's again.
restored original boot.img through magisk, let the ota do its thine, instead of restart I went to magisk again and did "install to inactive slot" then reboot from magisk.
Except that it just showed "This device is corrupted" and when I pressed continue I was staring at a google logo and nothing happened.
So in the end I had to use android flash tool and wipe my phone cause normal fastboot firmware install didn't work.
Now its working and rooted again but the "This device is corrupted" message doesn't go away.
I even relocked the bootloader through android flash tool before I unlocked it and rooted like normal, but it's still there.
Is that like an addition from the last update? Now whenever I reboot there are 2 screens I have to click away,.. the normal unlocked warning and the corrupted screen.

G5-User7080 said:
@V0latyle
mhh alright... I'm never doing OTA's again.
restored original boot.img through magisk, let the ota do its thine, instead of restart I went to magisk again and did "install to inactive slot" then reboot from magisk.
Except that it just showed "This device is corrupted" and when I pressed continue I was staring at a google logo and nothing happened.
So in the end I had to use android flash tool and wipe my phone cause normal fastboot firmware install didn't work.
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Shouldn't have had to do that. If this happens just reflash the boot image using ADB. If that doesn't work...
G5-User7080 said:
Now its working and rooted again but the "This device is corrupted" message doesn't go away.
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Try sideloading the OTA. It appears that the "patch inactive slot" method in Magisk isn't working for everyone. Nothing is actually corrupt, the OTA update engine just isn't happy about something. Either way, wiping data shouldn't be necessary.
G5-User7080 said:
I even relocked the bootloader through android flash tool before I unlocked it and rooted like normal, but it's still there.
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Don't EVER do this unless everything is 100% stock and the device has been fully wiped.
G5-User7080 said:
Is that like an addition from the last update? Now whenever I reboot there are 2 screens I have to click away,.. the normal unlocked warning and the corrupted screen.
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Nope, both screens are part of the Android Boot Flow.
Since the inactive slot method didn't work, I suggest sideloading the OTA in the future. Do not interrupt the process or attempt to flash anything. Let the update complete normally and boot; you won't have root. Assuming you already have a Magisk patched boot image handy (it doesn't have to be current), you can then reboot to bootloader and live boot the patched image, then perform Direct Install in Magisk.

V0latyle said:
Shouldn't have had to do that. If this happens just reflash the boot image using ADB. If that doesn't work...
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welp.. I tried flashing matching (so newest) boot, didnt work
V0latyle said:
Try sideloading the OTA. It appears that the "patch inactive slot" method in Magisk isn't working for everyone. Nothing is actually corrupt, the OTA update engine just isn't happy about something. Either way, wiping data shouldn't be necessary.
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you mean now? like after im factory reset & rooted I should sideload the same OTA again which I'm on right now?
V0latyle said:
Don't EVER do this unless everything is 100% stock and the device has been fully wiped.
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Isn't that what android flash tool does?
wiping my device and install stock?
either way I wasnt running a custom rom and of course I don't relock it after I'm rooted.
V0latyle said:
Since the inactive slot method didn't work, I suggest sideloading the OTA in the future. Do not interrupt the process or attempt to flash anything. Let the update complete normally and boot; you won't have root. Assuming you already have a Magisk patched boot image handy (it doesn't have to be current), you can then reboot to bootloader and live boot the patched image, then perform Direct Install in Magisk.
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So right now I should leave everything as is including the corrupted message, right?
Then when the next OTA comes I do nothing, keep root, no uninstall or restore through magisk, and I just download the newest OTA from google, and do the fastboot sideload thing?
It'll work even though my boot.img is rooted?
And then the OTA will remove root, I live boot my existing (eventually outdated) magisk patchet boot.img, then direct install as usual?

V0latyle said:
Nothing is actually corrupt, the OTA update engine just isn't happy about something.
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This is slightly frustrating,... thanks for telling my my device is corrupted and making me think its actually bricked... nice going google.
I'm gonna have so much fun doing all the device settings again, cause for some reason restoring google backup doesn't do that.
How would I not hate OTA's after this lol

G5-User7080 said:
welp.. I tried flashing matching (so newest) boot, didnt work
you mean now? like after im factory reset & rooted I should sideload the same OTA again which I'm on right now?
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Yes. Sorry if it's confusing. The OTA update process can be a bit...sensitive.
G5-User7080 said:
Isn't that what android flash tool does?
wiping my device and install stock?
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Yes, but only if Wipe device is checked
G5-User7080 said:
So right now I should leave everything as is including the corrupted message, right?
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Just sideload the OTA. It won't wipe anything and it can't possibly hurt anything.
G5-User7080 said:
Then when the next OTA comes I do nothing, keep root, no uninstall or restore through magisk, and I just download the newest OTA from google, and do the fastboot sideload thing?
It'll work even though my boot.img is rooted?
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Yes - when you update via system, it checks images for integrity before updating. Sideloading the OTA skips this and just overwrites the images. Doesn't affect user data.
G5-User7080 said:
And then the OTA will remove root, I live boot my existing (eventually outdated) magisk patchet boot.img, then direct install as usual?
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Yep.
G5-User7080 said:
This is slightly frustrating,... thanks for telling my my device is corrupted and making me think its actually bricked... nice going google.
I'm gonna have so much fun doing all the device settings again, cause for some reason restoring google backup doesn't do that.
How would I not hate OTA's after this lol
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I can definitely understand the frustration. Suggestion: before you go nuclear next time and wipe your data, post here and see if someone might have a solution. I have a strong suspicion that simply sideloading the OTA would have cleared the corrupted message, you wouldn't have had to wipe data, and you could have just re-rooted. As the great Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy tells us, "Don't Panic!"

Sideloading went without issue, message still there though, but at this point idec anymore, thanks for the help!
V0latyle said:
Just sideload the OTA. It won't wipe anything and it can't possibly hurt anything.
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G5-User7080 said:
Sideloading went without issue, message still there though, but at this point idec anymore, thanks for the help!
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The corrupt message is?
Hmm. Sideload again. Reason being is the OTA always installs to the inactive slot, then switches to that slot. If you install the OTA twice, it installs to both slots. Example: you're on slot A. Install OTA -> slot B becomes active, Slot A hasn't been updated. Install OTA again, -> Slot A becomes active.
Just to make sure - you're using Magisk 25.2, yes?

Latest release, yes.
No worky, was on slot a before, so it did ota and switched to b, b wasnt rooted, I rooted it through magisk, did the ota again, so it switched back to a, rebooted, a wasnt rooted as expected and the message was still there.
just to confirm that it actually switched and didnt like ota 2 times without switching, I switched back to b and it was rooted.
Can only guess it only works if the ota actually installs anything, i mean im already on february 5th on both slots.
So I'll try again next month.

G5-User7080 said:
Latest release, yes.
No worky, was on slot a before, so it did ota and switched to b, b wasnt rooted, I rooted it through magisk, did the ota again, so it switched back to a, rebooted, a wasnt rooted as expected and the message was still there.
just to confirm that it actually switched and didnt like ota 2 times without switching, I switched back to b and it was rooted.
Can only guess it only works if the ota actually installs anything, i mean im already on february 5th on both slots.
So I'll try again next month.
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The message should disappear when you update the OS next month.

G5-User7080 said:
So for some reason the February update doesn't show up for my in system updates.
To update manually, is it better to download the ota from Google's site and flash that or the newest firmware and flash system?
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what works best for me (!) is downloading the whole factory image, extracting boot.img, patching it using magisk, transferring it back to the pc, and there editing flash-all.bat so it doesn’t wipe data (!) and adding one line to flash the new boot.img directly at the end. reboot to bootloader, run flash-all, done.

Just use PixelFlasher. It will take care of everything, including Magisk patching the boot image. Makes updates using the factory images painless, takes about 5 minutes total.

G5-User7080 said:
hi, umm so this isn't really something for any thread, I just have some questions.
Is it possible to force a full factory flash?
Cause I assume running flash-all.bat from the factory image or using android flash tool does not do that, as it only uses the fastboot update command.
Well, Idk what exactly fastboot update does, but from my old phone I remember that the script to flash stock contains a lot of flash commands for every partition, e.g. fastboot flash boot, fastboot flash system, etc.
So maybe that warning would go away after actually flashing the entire rom over it.
Also while data was wiped at least 2 times, there are three apps that I accidentally disabled a few days ago, and or some reason I couldnt re-enable them, and the weird thing is they are still disabled..
Then for some reason when I restored the google backup after the wipe it didn't apply my settings and only downloaded my apps.
And now I found another thing, sometimes my screen doesnt turn off after the set timeout, only when charging tho, but stay awake in dev settings isnt on..
Additionally the battery level is inconsistent and suddenly jumps up or down a few percent, but the kernel reported level (measured with ACCA) stays consistent, so its not really an issue.
I'll try resetting all app permissions and if that doesnt work all settings i guess, but I really have no clue what mightve caused this.
Especially since none of those happened before wipe / OTA and I only re-installed my apps, loaded their settings from backups and clicked through the settings app.
No new modules or any root quirks.
I'm glad its just my phone, I only really use it for social media and and umm music ig so its not really that much work to set up again, only really annoying thing is to click through everything in settings cause theres no way to back that up meh.
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@G5-User7080 I'm bringing this to public as discussed in PM.
Yes, you can force a full factory flash. Yes, the flash-all script and the Android Flash Tool both do this - they flash bootloader, radio, and all OS partitions. If you want to be really thorough, you can check the "Force flash all partitions" checkbox, this also requires a data wipe.
I'm not sure why system apps would remain disabled following a data wipe.
The Google One backup isn't able to back up everything. It cannot back up application data, and it does not back up all system settings.
Regarding the screen, I've noticed the opposite with my Pixel 5. I have "Stay Awake" turned off, but despite having my screen timeout set for 1 minute, it turns off and locks after about 15 seconds.
Battery...Not sure what to tell you.
Consumer electronics are cantankerous beasts indeed and fraught with gremlins.

V0latyle said:
@G5-User7080 I'm bringing this to public as discussed in PM.
Yes, you can force a full factory flash. Yes, the flash-all script and the Android Flash Tool both do this - they flash bootloader, radio, and all OS partitions. If you want to be really thorough, you can check the "Force flash all partitions" checkbox, this also requires a data wipe.
I'm not sure why system apps would remain disabled following a data wipe.
The Google One backup isn't able to back up everything. It cannot back up application data, and it does not back up all system settings.
Regarding the screen, I've noticed the opposite with my Pixel 5. I have "Stay Awake" turned off, but despite having my screen timeout set for 1 minute, it turns off and locks after about 15 seconds.
Battery...Not sure what to tell you.
Consumer electronics are cantankerous beasts indeed and fraught with gremlins.
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I couldnt think of any other way that some apps retain their disabled state, as well as why would the corrupted message stay even after full stock / full OTA on both slots.
Only thing I can think of is that fastboot update does not overwrite partitions that are already the same version.
Do you think enforcing all partitions flash would get rid of the corrupted warning as well?
As for the google one backup,.. it said it would restore settings, even if its not all of them,.. i dont think it restored any.
sound, display, permissions, gestures, gboard, etc, was all different.

G5-User7080 said:
I couldnt think of any other way that some apps retain their disabled state, as well as why would the corrupted message stay even after full stock / full OTA on both slots.
Only thing I can think of is that fastboot update does not overwrite partitions that are already the same version.
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Pretty sure it does. I could be wrong.
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Do you think enforcing all partitions flash would get rid of the corrupted warning as well?
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In theory, yes. Google hasn't exactly released any in depth documentation for the Android Flash Tool. Note that force flashing all partitions will include a data wipe but it's worth a try
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As for the google one backup,.. it said it would restore settings, even if its not all of them,.. i dont think it restored any.
sound, display, permissions, gestures, gboard, etc, was all different.
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Only thing I can think of is you might have selected a backup that was incomplete or something. Google One takes "snapshots" every once in a while, including after you've signed into Google on your device.
Otherwise, the backup just didn't restore completely?

G5-User7080 said:
Only thing I can think of is that fastboot update does not overwrite partitions that are already the same version.
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Fastboot does but I don't think Android Flash Tool does unless you select "Force Flash Partitions".
I'm pretty sure the information part of "Force Flash Partitions" says "Flash all partitions that are part of the build even if they are up to date (e.g. bootloader, radio) as well as force a wipe".
At least this language leaves me to believe that that Android Flash Tool won't overwrite partitions that are already up-to-date unless you select "Force Flash Partitions".

Question Migisk boot.img or magisk.zip

Hello all
I've used the boot.img and found it to be inconvenient as id have to redo this with every ota update, instead I use adb magisk.zip and keep root after ota updates, is this incorrect as I've not seen the method I am currently using spoken about at all and everyone directs to use .IMG or at least all the root guides I've come across

mlolz93 said:
Hello all
I've used the boot.img and found it to be inconvenient as id have to redo this with every ota update, instead I use adb magisk.zip and keep root after ota updates, is this incorrect as I've not seen the method I am currently using spoken about at all and everyone directs to use .IMG or at least all the root guides I've come across
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What do you mean by "adb magisk.zip"?

V0latyle said:
What do you mean by "adb magisk.zip"?
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Apologies, in recovery mode send the zip to install

mlolz93 said:
Apologies, in recovery mode send the zip to install
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With the stock recovery? As far as I know this shouldn't work because the stock recovery will only accept official signed images.

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With the stock recovery? As far as I know this shouldn't work because the stock recovery will only accept official signed images.
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Sorry no with lineage recovery
Definitly have root, can use several tools that show as much. So I just find it odd that with all tutorials that I have come across, the ones for custom ROMs will say to use boot.img and that doesn't make a lot of sense considering that it'll loose root after an update.
Anyway I'm left wondering why people default to boot.img which takes more steps and is overall more inconvenient.. Or is there a trade off that I am missing

mlolz93 said:
Sorry no with lineage recovery
Definitly have root, can use several tools that show as much. So I just find it odd that with all tutorials that I have come across, the ones for custom ROMs will say to use boot.img and that doesn't make a lot of sense considering that it'll loose root after an update.
Anyway I'm left wondering why people default to boot.img which takes more steps and is overall more inconvenient.. Or is there a trade off that I am missing
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Because that's how to root the Pixels - you have to patch the boot image. There are a number of ways to do this: you can manually patch it in Magisk; you can live boot a previously patched image and use temporary root to perform Direct Install in Magisk; you can live boot a custom recovery (if on the stock ROM) and install Magisk that way; or you can sideload Magisk in custom recovery.
The reason why updating breaks root is because the boot image gets overwritten with a "clean" unpatched image. This will happen regardless of the method you use to root, so you'll have to re-root every time you update.

V0latyle said:
Because that's how to root the Pixels - you have to patch the boot image. There are a number of ways to do this: you can manually patch it in Magisk; you can live boot a previously patched image and use temporary root to perform Direct Install in Magisk; you can live boot a custom recovery (if on the stock ROM) and install Magisk that way; or you can sideload Magisk in custom recovery.
The reason why updating breaks root is because the boot image gets overwritten with a "clean" unpatched image. This will happen regardless of the method you use to root, so you'll have to re-root every time you update.
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Side loading the .zip is way easier and I've not lost root after updating so to me seems like the better method.
because I've not seen it used in guides I was concerned that they're was a trade off.
I will assume side loading the .zip is the better method.
Cheers @V0latyle

Same here, I used adb when rooting only with custom recovery, lineage update with no problem, flash it to inactive slot before rebooting to finished update, make sure you disable the magisk modules that you have to prevent bootlooping

mlolz93 said:
Side loading the .zip is way easier and I've not lost root after updating so to me seems like the better method.
because I've not seen it used in guides I was concerned that they're was a trade off.
I will assume side loading the .zip is the better method.
Cheers @V0latyle
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For LOS, yeah it would be easier.
You actually do lose root after updating, but when you sideload Magisk, you're patching the new boot image

V0latyle said:
For LOS, yeah it would be easier.
You actually do lose root after updating, but when you sideload Magisk, you're patching the new boot image
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Nope, mine is still rooted when I updated on 04/08.

imna357 said:
Nope, mine is still rooted when I updated on 04/08.
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I disabled all my modules, start the updater and after ready to install I went to Magisk and install it to inactive slot, then reboot.

imna357 said:
Nope, mine is still rooted when I updated on 04/08.
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I'd retained root for 2 update but with the last one I had to reinstall to inactive slot