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Hi guys,
I received an offer to order a Chinese Oneplus 8 and 8 pro however I am wondering if I can use the 5G here in the UAE.
Our networks support 5G, however, I need to know if the Chinese version OnePlus 8 5G will work.
Is there any bands like LTE that we can check. Or the 5G in Chinese version will only work in Mainland of China?
Thanks guys
hi dear, if you are referring to the ones sold on noon by callmate, they are definitely rebranded chinese variants, and you can check the 5g bands from oneplus spec sheets
https://www.oneplus.com/cn/8/specs?from=8
https://www.oneplus.com/ae/8/specs?from=8
i see that on https://halberdbastion.com/intelligence/countries-nations/united-arab-emirates both of your du and etisalat should work on 5g at n78, and looking at the above spec sheets, n78 is supported on both ae and cn models, so i guess yes it should work.
I might be wrong, so take it with a grain of salt
ZOHAIBAR said:
hi dear, if you are referring to the ones sold on noon by callmate, they are definitely rebranded chinese variants, and you can check the 5g bands from oneplus spec sheets
https://www.oneplus.com/cn/8/specs?from=8
https://www.oneplus.com/ae/8/specs?from=8
i see that on https://halberdbastion.com/intelligence/countries-nations/united-arab-emirates both of your du and etisalat should work on 5g at n78, and looking at the above spec sheets, n78 is supported on both ae and cn models, so i guess yes it should work.
I might be wrong, so take it with a grain of salt
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WOW! You got what I am thinking. Yes, I am planning to order from Callmate. However I am think if I should buy it this early. Oneplus 8 and pro is now flooded with screen issues in Oneplus forum. What do you think? I am thinking of buying OP 8, Mi note 10 pro or Realme x2 pro. Mi 10 price is crazy high here also so it is not on the option. Last option for me is iphone SE 2020.
Thanks
OP8 doesn't seem to have video issues. Where are you reading this?
Alan
alan sh said:
OP8 doesn't seem to have video issues. Where are you reading this?
Alan
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I am reading feedbacks from OP 8 forum:
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/oneplus-8-oled-screen-quality-problems.1216768/
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/oneplus-8-display-issues.1218843/#post-21547466
and this is for OP 8 also
I was planning the same. I wonder if the Chinese variant will have L1 wide wine so that Netflix and prime can stream HD content.
I've got a Chinese variant imported to the UK works fine here, no problems at all, as long as it has the bands used in your country it should be fine
KingUsman said:
I've got a Chinese variant imported to the UK works fine here, no problems at all, as long as it has the bands used in your country it should be fine
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do you have 5G automatically? mine doesn't have and may need to manually enable 5g in Engineering mode app
KingUsman
have you flashed Oxygen on your Chinese Oneplus 8? If so, can you give me a pointer to any instructions? Thanks!
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do you have 5G automatically? mine doesn't have and may need to manually enable 5g in Engineering mode app
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Yeah my 5g is enabled in the settings and shows up there, can't test it yet though
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ralphrmartin said:
KingUsman
have you flashed Oxygen on your Chinese Oneplus 8? If so, can you give me a pointer to any instructions? Thanks!
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Mine came with it flashed oxygen os already, I believe this is the method to flash it to oxygen os - https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-8/how-to/rom-stock-fastboot-roms-oneplus-8-t4084629
OK, thanks.
Not to start a new thread, so trying to post the question here.
I got a Chinese Oneplus 8 Pro from an online sight who have stated that they've flashed it with the Global Oxygen ROM.
Thing is, while the sites state the 5G Bands that the phone supports, 5G does not want to work out of the box in my country (Saudi Arabia) even though my Huawei P40 Pro used to show 5G at home.
I've read somewhere that someone has purchased a similar phone and has managed to connect his phone to laptop and do a couple of things and get 5G to work.
Could anyone possibly point me in that direction? I have honestly searched for a few days but yet to find a way of activating 5G here.
Cheers in advance.
Majed aka Soul Guy said:
Not to start a new thread, so trying to post the question here.
I got a Chinese Oneplus 8 Pro from an online sight who have stated that they've flashed it with the Global Oxygen ROM.
Thing is, while the sites state the 5G Bands that the phone supports, 5G does not want to work out of the box in my country (Saudi Arabia) even though my Huawei P40 Pro used to show 5G at home.
I've read somewhere that someone has purchased a similar phone and has managed to connect his phone to laptop and do a couple of things and get 5G to work.
Could anyone possibly point me in that direction? I have honestly searched for a few days but yet to find a way of activating 5G here.
Cheers in advance.
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I have made instruction how to enable 5G any network: https://mt-tech.fi/en/modify-oneplus-7-pro-5g-8-and-8-pro-nr-lte-a-band-combos/ - but of course there is limit in hardware supported combos. Many devices have 5G enabled only certain networks.
I'm very intrested about logs from your OnePlus device. I have instruction to get combos https://mt-tech.fi/en/how-to-get-4g-supported-ca-combinations-from-your-android-phone/ (Go to OnePlus section). In log i can see if 5G enabled or not and also 4G combos enabled.
olkitu said:
I have made instruction how to enable 5G any network: https://mt-tech.fi/en/modify-oneplus-7-pro-5g-8-and-8-pro-nr-lte-a-band-combos/ - but of course there is limit in hardware supported combos. Many devices have 5G enabled only certain networks.
I'm very intrested about logs from your OnePlus device. I have instruction to get combos https://mt-tech.fi/en/how-to-get-4g-supported-ca-combinations-from-your-android-phone/ (Go to OnePlus section). In log i can see if 5G enabled or not and also 4G combos enabled.
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Hey thanks for your work on it. I've found that QPST up to 2.7.480 does not support the 8 (No Phone, but device manager sees it properly. I've also tested QPST with my OP6 and it's fine). Which version of QPST did you use?
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Hey thanks for your work on it. I've found that QPST up to 2.7.480 does not support the 8 (No Phone, but device manager sees it properly. I've also tested QPST with my OP6 and it's fine). Which version of QPST did you use?
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I have QPST 2.7.460 and OnePlus 8 works fine. You see on Device Manager COM-port?
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I have QPST 2.7.460 and OnePlus 8 works fine. You see on Device Manager COM-port?
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Yep, lemme try downgrading to 2.7.460 and check. In your case, were you able to modify LTE bands at all or did you try?
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Yep, lemme try downgrading to 2.7.460 and check. In your case, were you able to modify LTE bands at all or did you try?
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in carrier_policy.xml you can change policy to enable 5G, modify 4G CA Combinations and enable/disable single band support certain PLMN.
Amazing, I can confirm that 2.7.460 works, but 480 does not. That said, can modifying carrier_policy.xml result in enabling bands that NV has locked? I assumed that adding bands required modifying the nv section?
Edit: Enabled additional bands via lte_bands section, but it didn't work (downgraded to 3G instead, no LTE bands shows up)
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in carrier_policy.xml you can change policy to enable 5G, modify 4G CA Combinations and enable/disable single band support certain PLMN.
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hi, i bought oneplus 8t china version, my carrier in malaysia which is DIGI support band 3 and 7 (from a quick google search). currently i dont have 4g+ or LTE-A. Can i use this method to unlock 4g+? i dont really know how to read the spec sheet regarding LTE bands.
Hello I need to know if the uk version of x2 pro is dual, or single sim?
Thank you.
koloure2211 said:
Hello I need to know if the uk version of x2 pro is dual, or single sim?
Thank you.
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Hello, it's pretty simple in this case.
512 GB version is available internationally, is single-SIM, has fully working VoLTE and VoWi-Fi, has firmware named PCH and its global ROM is vastly superior to the Chinese one (less bloatware, very little restrictions about customization).
256 GB version is available only in China, is dual-SIM, has neither VoLTE nor VoWi-Fi, has firmware named PDEM and its Chinese ROM has some bloatware and more importantly unpleasant and incovenient restrictions for the user.
Hope that helps
More advanced answer:
Currently there's a battle on two fronts:
users try to flash the much more user-friendly Global ROM on the Chinese device but without success so far; it seems that an unlocked booloader might be required which is still a long way to go
users try to make the Global model work as dual-SIM as it actually physically has a double SIM-card tray so there is a tiny possibility that it's a very weird software limitation (breakable in the future) but I would't have high hopes
Thank you, I want / need dual sim, (work etc) so will probably have to give this a "miss" unless.......
koloure2211 said:
Thank you, I want / need dual sim, (work etc) so will probably have to give this a "miss" unless.......
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No problem, glad I could.. "help".
No one has a clue why Oppo made this limitation, both phones (CPH and PDEM) are identical (hardware-wise), both have dual SIM-card tray but only the Chinese software is capable with working with two SIMs.
The phone is so great I might let go of dual-SIM requirement but I understand it's the decisive factor for many. Oppo has surely cut their profits by doing this and I've never seen anything like this before (phone hardware supporting it but an artificial software change blocking it).
I agree totally, it's ludicrous that this should be the case?
If only they gave users the choice? After all it's £1099 phone, it should be!?
Apparently Clove, (UK) has the dual sim version. Ceramic black only though, at the moment.
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Apparently Clove, (UK) has the dual sim version. Ceramic black only though, at the moment.
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It's either a typo (misleading information), or they're offering the Chinese model with Chinese software and 256 GB storage (the latter option is very unlikely).
Remember, technically the phone is always dual-SIM. That might be the source of their information.
I have emailed them for clarification, awaiting reply!
Got the reply!
Hope this helps ?
Just for clarity...
koloure2211 said:
Got the reply!
Hope this helps ?
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Ok, that sounds strange (or interesting, depending on the point of view). Currently, as the international CPH version of Find X2 Pro doesn't support dual-SIM, there are two possibilities:
- they're still sharing misleading information (deliberately or not) and the phone will be single-SIM
- the phone will come with a brand new version of Global ROM firmware which somehow enables dual-SIM (and which hasn't been released yet), which would give hope to other users of international CPH version.
Hardware-wise the version you're ordering is 99% the same as the ones already released in countries like Netherlands, Germany.
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Got the reply!
Hope this helps ?
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they are wrong. the orange model is a carphone warehouse exclusive. carphone warehouse don't sell locked phones
daindian said:
they are wrong. the orange model is a carphone warehouse exclusive. carphone warehouse don't sell locked phones
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Actually Amazon, (UK) are selling the orange one also.
koloure2211 said:
Actually Amazon, (UK) are selling the orange one also.
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yeh again unlocked. carphone warehouse is the exclusive seller on contract I should of clarified
Yes this is very odd...not sure what game they are playing. Why would the UK get dual SIM, or some specific market. This is driving me nuts.
Maybe I'll contact oppo directly.
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Ok, that sounds strange (or interesting, depending on the point of view). Currently, as the international CPH version of Find X2 Pro doesn't support dual-SIM, there are two possibilities:
- they're still sharing misleading information (deliberately or not) and the phone will be single-SIM
- the phone will come with a brand new version of Global ROM firmware which somehow enables dual-SIM (and which hasn't been released yet), which would give hope to other users of international CPH version.
Hardware-wise the version you're ordering is 99% the same as the ones already released in countries like Netherlands, Germany.
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Killer007TV said:
Ok, that sounds strange (or interesting, depending on the point of view). Currently, as the international CPH version of Find X2 Pro doesn't support dual-SIM, there are two possibilities:
- they're still sharing misleading information (deliberately or not) and the phone will be single-SIM
- the phone will come with a brand new version of Global ROM firmware which somehow enables dual-SIM (and which hasn't been released yet), which would give hope to other users of international CPH version.
Hardware-wise the version you're ordering is 99% the same as the ones already released in countries like Netherlands, Germany.
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I might add, that until this question is clarified? I will not be ordering,
Single SIM?
Dual SIM??
it's just all over the place at the moment??
I thought i posted this here also :
Ok after some research, and reading another post in the forum, i can mostly confirm that there ARE 2025 GLOBAL models with dual sim around. Apparently the Clove is getting the dual sim.
Clove find x2 pro
and i confirm this is correct by going to the UK site of oppo...
Oppo official site
This means that's even crazier than i thought... some markets, even in the EU get the dual sim and others dont....
but just to make you laugh check this out :
Oppo says ALL their phone are dual SIM
koloure2211 said:
I might add, that until this question is clarified? I will not be ordering,
Single SIM?
Dual SIM??
it's just all over the place at the moment??
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Is it a physical dual SIM or SIM and...
e-sim?
koloure2211 said:
Is it a physical dual SIM or SIM and...
e-sim?
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I stand corrected!!! Oppo is really not clear on this.
As this is very WRONG
on the top of their site : it says "dual 5G" which can make one believe that it's dual SIM. But when you scroll down to "network" it clearly says "Single sim".
Uk Oppo site
So why do they mention dual 5G ?(maybe the two 5G (mmWave and the other one).
I sent an email to Oppo asking for some clarfication.
I checked all around the world which markets have dual sim (outside of China) and apparently none have it.
So i'm waiting on feedback from another member who has a 2025 but dual SIM... this is all very confusing.
just to add some more confusion (salt into wounds, so to speak) into this... Amazon UK also claims "dual-sim" in their pre-order for June 10th release. Also Orange version, 12GB 512GB.... sold and dispatched by Amazon... :crying: :fingers-crossed:
I loved this phone in PDEM version but the lockdown of the software made me switch to Xiaomi Mi 10 Pro (plus I can use custom roms). Dual SIM especially since this is band capable for TMobile and Verizon in the states. I love dual sim... if dual sim is confirmed, i'm switching back in a heartbeat... just given the facts though, I think it is sellers typo in their information. Oppo clear states on UK site, CPH2025 model, Single SIM.
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I sent an email to Clove UK and Amazon to clarify their listings for these phones... I'll wait to see reply..
Hello,
i would just like to know if OnePlus 8 (China version) is good enough to support 4G LTE in EU, does it have all the bands required? I've read about "band 28" which it lacks and that this will be used for 5G? I don't care for 5G (yet), so my question is, will it work for everything else, is it good enough, i'm from Slovenia if that helps, i've been checking the bands, but i'm too confused to know what to think about this, those are too confusing for me, i've been checking them, but i'm just not sure, i think it should be fine, but i'm not 100% sure, so if anyone who knows this stuff can tell me, or even better, someone who has that OnePlus 8 phone can tell me, that would be great (=
Greetings
I have just ordered a CN version for use in the UK and from what i have read it lacks 1 frequency (band 32 i think) which from what i'm aware o2 in UK doesn't use .... Is this correct anyone? (Sorry if this a thread hijack)
NaabKing said:
Hello,
i would just like to know if OnePlus 8 (China version) is good enough to support 4G LTE in EU, does it have all the bands required? I've read about "band 28" which it lacks and that this will be used for 5G? I don't care for 5G (yet), so my question is, will it work for everything else, is it good enough, i'm from Slovenia if that helps, i've been checking the bands, but i'm too confused to know what to think about this, those are too confusing for me, i've been checking them, but i'm just not sure, i think it should be fine, but i'm not 100% sure, so if anyone who knows this stuff can tell me, or even better, someone who has that OnePlus 8 phone can tell me, that would be great (=
Greetings
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Hi, just to be sure we're on the same page, I read that IN2010 is the international version (5 4gLTE bands support) and IN2020 is the Chinese one, which is missing one band used here in Europe.
Are you sure IN2010 is Chinese ?
Raiz said:
Hi, just to be sure we're on the same page, I read that IN2010 is the international version (5 4gLTE bands support) and IN2020 is the Chinese one, which is missing one band used here in Europe.
Are you sure IN2010 is Chinese ?
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IN2010 is the Chinese version of OP8 , while IN2020 is the chinsese version of OP8Pro
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IN2010 is the Chinese version of OP8 , while IN2020 is the chinsese version of OP8Pro
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Oh thx, I didn't see that one coming , so I have 2 questions : where to search for those infos (regional variants numbers I mean) and is this a software matter or a hardware matter ? (Will there be missing/China specials bands in it or it's just software)
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Are there any global version of the OnePlus 8, if so what would be its regional variant name ?
Raiz said:
Oh thx, I didn't see that one coming , so I have 2 questions : where to search for those infos (regional variants numbers I mean) and is this a software matter or a hardware matter ? (Will there be missing/China specials bands in it or it's just software)
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I just use google to find out a variant. The main differences are hardware related, specifically the bands of the device. There is also a chinese version of Oxygen OS which is called Hydrogen OS , but this can change easily by flashing global unlocked OxygenOS without any compromises.
Here you can learn more about the bands in each version : https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/g1rm7e/oneplus_8_pro_versions_and_4glte_and_5g_nr/
Edit: I think there is not a global version bandwise. (US, Europe, India and China as far as i know )
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NaabKing said:
Hello,
i would just like to know if OnePlus 8 (China version) is good enough to support 4G LTE in EU, does it have all the bands required? I've read about "band 28" which it lacks and that this will be used for 5G? I don't care for 5G (yet), so my question is, will it work for everything else, is it good enough, i'm from Slovenia if that helps, i've been checking the bands, but i'm too confused to know what to think about this, those are too confusing for me, i've been checking them, but i'm just not sure, i think it should be fine, but i'm not 100% sure, so if anyone who knows this stuff can tell me, or even better, someone who has that OnePlus 8 phone can tell me, that would be great (=
Greetings
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Check this : https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-oneplus-8-12gb-cn. It mentions band compatibility with your country's carriers.
pantelis20 said:
I just use google to find out a variant. The main differences are
... https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-oneplus-8-12gb-cn. It mentions band compatibility with your country's carriers.
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Hi,
Thanks for all this clarification, indeed I've been kinda fooled by marketing speech...
I've bought the OnePlus 8 not on the OnePlus website but on another one, and the announce said "OnePlus International Version IN2010", I was like "cool, plus it's cheap, let's get this".
Now I understand the business behind the whole website (a French one): they buy in China, flash the global rom manually and sells it cheaper, but make a little margin on the final price. That's why they call it international, just because of the ROM!
I knew (but still wanted confirmation) about missing bands a HydrogenOS and now I fully understand the market scheme. So I'll be missing B28 band (used in France with my career for 4G LTE)and an EU-compatible charger. No big deal but I'm kinda disappointed in myself, not being able to see through marketing speech and candidly trusting attractive prices... Well, we learn as we make mistakes (and I'm not ready to forgot that one).
One last think, kil-movil had a section for the OnePlus 8 called "Global" with every bands marked as available, and the model number was still IN2010. I guess they're part of the deal, since when I clicked on "see offers" I was redirected to the website I bought it in.
Even the seller was lying as he said "compatible with every bands in France". And when people ask, he was denying it every single time
Thanks for your explanations tho, I'll be able to warn the next ones at least.
Raiz said:
Hi,
Thanks for all this clarification, indeed I've been kinda fooled by marketing speech...
I've bought the OnePlus 8 not on the OnePlus website but on another one, and the announce said "OnePlus International Version IN2010", I was like "cool, plus it's cheap, let's get this".
Now I understand the business behind the whole website (a French one): they buy in China, flash the global rom manually and sells it cheaper, but make a little margin on the final price. That's why they call it international, just because of the ROM!
I knew (but still wanted confirmation) about missing bands a HydrogenOS and now I fully understand the market scheme. So I'll be missing B28 band (used in France with my career for 4G LTE)and an EU-compatible charger. No big deal but I'm kinda disappointed in myself, not being able to see through marketing speech and candidly trusting attractive prices... Well, we learn as we make mistakes (and I'm not ready to forgot that one).
One last think, kil-movil had a section for the OnePlus 8 called "Global" with every bands marked as available, and the model number was still IN2010. I guess they're part of the deal, since when I clicked on "see offers" I was redirected to the website I bought it in.
Even the seller was lying as he said "compatible with every bands in France". And when people ask, he was denying it every single time
Thanks for your explanations tho, I'll be able to warn the next ones at least.
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That is unfortunate. Can't you claim RMA or something?
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That is unfortunate. Can't you claim RMA or something?
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Yup don't worry, I can return it and having all my money back but I don't think I will, my Nextbit Robin (daily driver) is dying and not having B28 4G out of 4 other antennas available isn't a big deal. I have only 50 Mo of data so I don't use 4G often. I would have been bothered by the charger but the seller claims (if it's not a lie) that he gives us an adapter. (Comments says he does, so hopefully he'll do)
Right now the only thing I have to do is getting past the disillusionment with some good music. Have you any title to recommend?
I have here listed supported 4G & 5G bands and Carrier Aggregation combinations of OnePlus 8:
China variant: https://cacombos.com/device?model=IN2010
Global variant: https://cacombos.com/device?model=IN2013
olkitu said:
I have here listed supported 4G & 5G bands and Carrier Aggregation combinations of OnePlus 8:
China variant: https://cacombos.com/device?model=IN2010
Global variant: https://cacombos.com/device?model=IN2013
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IN2013= EU version, not global, there is no global version.
But thx for the website, it's nice to have that tool
Is it possible to activate the VoLTE service (Vodafone ITA) with IN2010?
Hello, I have just ordered the oneplus 8 through Fnac and I think it is the version IN2010, seem like I cant find any EU version from fnac ( sorry im new in France )
My question is do you know any others site selling op8 EU version if not, does the IN2010 work fine in france?
Hey Guys,
What would you recommend as the best model of the Note 20 Ultra to get? I have access to purchase the US unlocked, the International unlocked or the Korean Unlocked variant. I was concerned about using SamsungPay, yet I think I will let that ship sail. I am more concerned about overall performance and value. I will not be rooting. I use to for years on here, yet have not done so for the last 4 Note models. Just can't decided which would be the best one to purchase. Yet I need to get my pre-order in soon. I currently live in Japan. What are you thoughts?
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Hey Guys,
What would you recommend as the best model of the Note 20 Ultra to get? I have access to purchase the US unlocked, the International unlocked or the Korean Unlocked variant. I was concerned about using SamsungPay, yet I think I will let that ship sail. I am more concerned about overall performance and value. I will not be rooting. I use to for years on here, yet have not done so for the last 4 Note models. Just can't decided which would be the best one to purchase. Yet I need to get my pre-order in soon. I currently live in Japan. What are you thoughts?
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my recommendation would be to get the version which has all the required bands to work well in Japan.
That said i would not get the international one though because it has the crappy exynos 990 in it.
both US and Korean variants have the snapdragon 865+. i known rooting doesnt matter but just for information the US and Canadian models cannot be rooted due to the locked bootloader
force70 said:
my recommendation would be to get the version which has all the required bands to work well in Japan.
That said i would not get the international one though because it has the crappy exynos 990 in it.
both US and Korean variants have the snapdragon 865+. i known rooting doesnt matter but just for information the US and Canadian models cannot be rooted due to the locked bootloader
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Thanks for your reply. Both the Korean and the US variant would work the same for LTE here... I'm going with the Korean version as it has twice the storage for the same price.... If for some crazy reason I do root it later, it looks like it would be doable with the Korean model in flashing a generic worldwide wide rom(?).. It seems there was pretty healthy development on the snapdragon Korean version of the note 10 plus...I don't think that I will ever push it has enough to fully use the chipset, yet it's a good piece of mind to have when spending so much money, that you got the best performance you can buy.... because any variant isn't 100% completely compatible with all the LTE bands in Japan, I would feel better getting the chipset that has the best energy efficiency as well... I'll be going with mystic white as it give me the greatest flexibility in swapping skins and cases, plus the grey framed camera bump looks better in my opinion
force70 said:
my recommendation would be to get the version which has all the required bands to work well in Japan.
That said i would not get the international one though because it has the crappy exynos 990 in it.
both US and Korean variants have the snapdragon 865+. i known rooting doesnt matter but just for information the US and Canadian models cannot be rooted due to the locked bootloader
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I am stuck in this too, live in Canada
I need Dual SIM ( not avail for North American version )
I need rooting
I checked but the HK bands dont work for my carriers 5G
So - should I buy a Note 20 Ultra with Exynos? where I am not getting its worth OR go for a Note 10 + instead International but with Exynos for $1200 CAD
inningsdefeat500 said:
I am stuck in this too, live in Canada
I need Dual SIM ( not avail for North American version )
I need rooting
I checked but the HK bands dont work for my carriers 5G
So - should I buy a Note 20 Ultra with Exynos? where I am not getting its worth OR go for a Note 10 + instead International but with Exynos for $1200 CAD
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I definitely wouldnt buy exynos this year..the 990 is total crap.
last year the snapdragon was still better but I don't think the performance margin was a big.
what carrier you with?
inningsdefeat500 said:
I am stuck in this too, live in Canada
I need Dual SIM ( not avail for North American version )
I need rooting
I checked but the HK bands dont work for my carriers 5G
So - should I buy a Note 20 Ultra with Exynos? where I am not getting its worth OR go for a Note 10 + instead International but with Exynos for $1200 CAD
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For me 5G is nice, yet not super important due to the fact Japan just turned on 5G for commercial use 2 months ago and still have yet to flesh it out properly. NTT Docomo, the largest of the 3 carriers, expects only 2.5 million subscribers by March 2021... In short I'm saying how much access will you have to 5G in your area?... Is it top priority if you are getting great speeds on LTE already?
I went with the HK version over the Korean version for the dual sim capability....
As far as rooting I think both the HK and Korean versions were enjoying some success on the Note 10+ forums... You might want to check how things went with rooting development on those models , with expectations for probably the same level of support
Hello there,
The first users began to receive their devices by pre-order. In several regions, it was found that the device is being sold without esim and 5G support. For example, in Africa and the CIS countries. After numerous complaints from users, Samsung promised to unblock esim in two weeks, but according to them, 5G modem is physically not there. This directly contradicts what was said at the conference about a single model for all. The device model (SM-F916B) and firmware are exactly the same as those sold in the UK or Germany.
In the modem firmware code in the region settings, the line is simply removed:
[FIRMWARE.ZIP]\[CSC_FILE]\optics_\configs\carriers\single\[REGION_CODE]
Code:
<CscFeature_SystemUI_ConfigOpBranding5GIcon>5GAvailable</CscFeature_SystemUI_ConfigOpBranding5GIcon>
Could someone with a working 5G show their build.prop file? I suppose 5G is also programmatically blocked, but I need proof.
build.prop
Code:
C:\Program Files (x86)\ADB>adb shell
f2q:/ $ getprop
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[persist.radio.multisim.config]: [ss]
...
[ril.5g_rf]: [1]
[ril.enabled_5g_rf]: [0] << THIS
[ril.modem.board]: [SDX55M]
This z fold 2 is from germany:
[persist.radio.multisim.config]: [ss]
[persist.radio.multisim.stackid]: [0] 《-- esim and 5g doesn't work
[ril.5g_rf]: [1]
[ril.enabled_5g_rf]: [1]
[ril.modem.board]: [SDX55M]
Are you sure that esim will support will come through Software Update?
B_A_K said:
This z fold 2 is from germany
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Thanks!
sp1312 said:
Are you sure that esim will support will come through Software Update?
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I was told so on the Samsung hotline. For example, the Italian version has a similar problem with esim.
Are you saying that the version sold in the UK does NOT have the 5G modem? How can they be selling me a Galaxy Z Fold 2 5G if it doesn't have 5G?
If this is the case then, seeing as they have already pushed my delivery back I am going to cancel my order and carry on not using Samsung phones.
I am not with EE in the UK but their pre-order information for the Fold 2 states "Pre-order the 5G-enabled Galaxy Fold2" so surely it must have the modem or they will have a lot of angry customers.
Just checked Carphone Warehouse here and they have it listed as being 5G.
Maybe I misunderstood or the information isn't accurate?
Trem said:
Are you saying that the version sold in the UK does NOT have the 5G modem? How can they be selling me a Galaxy Z Fold 2 5G if it doesn't have 5G?
If this is the case then, seeing as they have already pushed my delivery back I am going to cancel my order and carry on not using Samsung phones.
I am not with EE in the UK but their pre-order information for the Fold 2 states "Pre-order the 5G-enabled Galaxy Fold2" so surely it must have the modem or they will have a lot of angry customers.
Just checked Carphone Warehouse here and they have it listed as being 5G.
Maybe I misunderstood or the information isn't accurate?
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In UK and rest of the Europe it's 5G enabled. This is mostly for Asian and African market where 5G rollout will take few years
Russian Samsung customer support says, that esim and 5G will be activated in ~2 weeks ...
Dexogen said:
Hello there,
The first users began to receive their devices by pre-order. In several regions, it was found that the device is being sold without esim and 5G support. For example, in Africa and the CIS countries. After numerous complaints from users, Samsung promised to unblock esim in two weeks, but according to them, 5G modem is physically not there. This directly contradicts what was said at the conference about a single model for all. The device model (SM-F916B) and firmware are exactly the same as those sold in the UK or Germany.
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In UK and rest of the Europe it's 5G enabled. This is mostly for Asian and African market where 5G rollout will take few years
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Phew! lol I'm hoping that is the case but reading the first post it looked like the 5G modem is not physically there and it's the same model and firmware as ones sold in the UK.
Trem said:
Phew! lol I'm hoping that is the case but reading the first post it looked like the 5G modem is not physically there and it's the same model and firmware as ones sold in the UK.
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All Snapdragon 865 (or plus) are built in with 5G modem, that is one of the reason for higher prices of Flagships this year. So 5G modem is there but in some countries it's disabled via software
Since this phone only comes with Qualcomm processors, Samsung is forced to pay around $80 for a 5G license per device. According to a source close to Samsung, they decided to save money in some countries.
Got my Z Fold 2 5G yesterday (in Netherlands) and there is indeed no esim. The box has 2 IMEI listed, but the phone shows only one. No "sim card manager" inside settings menu either. I called samsung "premier support" this morning and they had no clue. the support rep gave me a complete non-sense reason (i.e. esim is not allowed by the carrier - lol) and I very quickly realized there is no point arguing. I hope they enable it in 2 weeks or mine is going back.
I received a confirmation from Samsung Moderator from Samsung community website.
The phone is compatible with esim.
The problem will be solved via an update.
Update is currently in test and validation phase.
But 2 weeks seems a little bit long for a premium device.
Have you 2 IMEI or one?
Pead87 said:
I received a confirmation from Samsung Moderator from Samsung community website.
The phone is compatible with esim.
The problem will be solved via an update.
Update is currently in test and validation phase.
But 2 weeks seems a little bit long for a premium device.
Have you 2 IMEI or one?
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Thanks for the good news.
I have 2 IMEI listed on the box - and samsung confirmed that it's a dual phone / esim model. Can you please reference the community thread?
I got mine from Samsung Portugal. 5G is enabled (but we have no 5G network yet) but no esim. I have 2 IMEI listed on the box btw. Indeed the Sim card manager option is not there. I called Samsung and they have no clue why it is not there. They will call me back in 1 hour. I will let you know. This is kind of dishonest from Samsung. Selling a product like this one and not telling users that all functions they paid high price for, are not available right out of the box. I am feeling as bad as when I got my S20 ultra with all the camera defaults. I have 2 weeks to send it back. telling us that it will be available within 2 weeks is kind of weird.
I received my UK model today - 5G is working fine, but no e-sim/sim manager etc. Fingers crossed they get it sorted soon - the official launch is tomorrow, you'd think the carriers would be pushing them to resolve it for then!
What does it mean if you only have one imei number?
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I have two imeis on the phone box/case but only one in "About phone"
Waiting on eSiM solution too - agree not cool to advertise and sell with a major feature missing - phone is great - just need 2 sims if I want to use it as my daily driver ...
Spud1 said:
I received my UK model today - 5G is working fine, but no e-sim/sim manager etc. Fingers crossed they get it sorted soon - the official launch is tomorrow, you'd think the carriers would be pushing them to resolve it for then!
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Yeah, same boat. Hopefully a new ota will activate the service.
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hi All,
as per SAMMOBILE there is new update for z fold 2, anyone got the update for dual sim/Esim. i am waiting for mine as pre order ( what ever marketing they call it) will get the device by 24th, please update who ever got esim or dual sim working. otherwise will cancel the pre order.
minipac13 said:
hi All,
as per SAMMOBILE there is new update for z fold 2, anyone got the update for dual sim/Esim. i am waiting for mine as pre order ( what ever marketing they call it) will get the device by 24th, please update who ever got esim or dual sim working. otherwise will cancel the pre order.
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Nothing for UK version yet
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