Hi everyone,
I'm waiting for my Oneplus 7 pro to ship. I intend to upgrade to Android 10 and to root (via Magisk) it + install TWRP but was reading it around and found conflicting answers.
Which of the ff is easier / less problematic?
a) out of the box, install TWRP and root, then use workaround here (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80006134&postcount=1); or
b) update to Android 10 first then root (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80327267&postcount=24)?
Thank you in advance
Probably update then root.
The reason you have conflicting answers, is that (it least that I can tell) no definitive best way (root + update versus update + root).
Rooting, and then update (keeping root, TWRP) to me seems easier than patching your own boot image (or using one that is posted). But I don't think it's a huge difference either way. Honestly, there seems to be more folks with problems rooting Android 10 than I'm used to seeing. I'm holding off a bit before updated to 10, with the expectation that things will level out a bit. But I intend to update and keep TWRP/root (since I'm presently rooted on 9).
And yes, I know my answer contradicts the previous response. So that probably doesn't help your dilemma. I don't necessarily feel the other guy is wrong. Like I said, you can go either way. No clear best choice. You can practically flip a coin!
Hi everyone. Thank you for the responses.
Phrasing this into another way, which of the two approaches would be safer or harder to f*ckup (or less likely to cause bootloops etc)? Thank you
as long as you install twrp .70 it doesnt matter what you do first.
without twrp: first update, then root. Had Qualcomm CrashDump mode when I was rooted and tried to uptade to A10 stable...
Update them root.
TWRP version 70 allows you to boot the image and install Magisk.
No issues.
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i just spent 8 hours getting bootloader unlocked.
now i got a bunch of questions. hope it can save me a lot of time from studying for another 30+ hours, this sure is hard to get to work for me XD.
so these 2 links are talking a bought stuff. i have not been able to Google/find answers on yet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tablet/development/root-root-lollipop-t2945044
http://forum.xda-developers.com/shi.../recovery-cwm-recovery-nvidia-shield-t2848064
What is CWM,SuperSu and CWM Recovery for and do?
do i need to do these.
also i am on version android 4.4.2 stock version. should i update to a newer version. and is it safe to update?
also if so how or which programs should i use to root device.
also whats the top 10 suggested apps to get.
what should i update too? and what is the worth of updating? any better performance in device?
i use to have an apple device but every-time it got updates it got slower so i am curious.
tl;dr CWM is short for ClockWorkMod (a brand name),
CWM Recovery is a more lenient recovery image/firmware that allows you to flash other people's ROMs on your tablet,
and SuperSU is one of many root management tools that acts as a security gateway, alerting you when apps try to access root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/ClockworkMod_Recovery
Kalistro Elperado said:
i just spent 8 hours getting bootloader unlocked.
now i got a bunch of questions. hope it can save me a lot of time from studying for another 30+ hours, this sure is hard to get to work for me XD.
so these 2 links are talking a bought stuff. i have not been able to Google/find answers on yet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tablet/development/root-root-lollipop-t2945044
http://forum.xda-developers.com/shi.../recovery-cwm-recovery-nvidia-shield-t2848064
What is CWM,SuperSu and CWM Recovery for and do?
do i need to do these.
also i am on version android 4.4.2 stock version. should i update to a newer version. and is it safe to update?
also if so how or which programs should i use to root device.
also whats the top 10 suggested apps to get.
what should i update too? and what is the worth of updating? any better performance in device?
i use to have an apple device but every-time it got updates it got slower so i am curious.
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I have 4.4.2 and won't go to lollipop. too many issues. I used towelroot to root and did the volume tweak and that's about it.
I would suggest these tool Apps - SuperSU, Titanium Backup, ES File explorer, NextApp, SDFix, SD Maid, Avast Security, Malwarebytes
Here's towelroot if you want to try it----------
I know, if I read and search, I may find it. But, dang, it's a lot of reading, and I haven't rooted since my S4.
Can I root this version without moving to 5.1.1?
I have been scouring this place forever looking for the answer. From everything I have seen anything past 5.x.x is either useless or a hassle that requires a laptop or some form of terminal to reset upon reboot of phone. Nothing on Nougat has been shown to work that explicitly requires 'real' root access.
I'm looking as well as I'd like to root a phone to do a complete backup and then rom it.
Not possible atm cus our boot loader is locked :/
Yes it is possible i Confirme it AGAIN.
I had to Flash 6.0.1 , Then update the SEpolicy, THEN update to 7.0 (Carefull not to upgrade to 7.1)
Then Follow my Guide i've been working on for almost 2 Weeks
Last Step, ENJOY.
First of all I need to preface this by saying I know nothing about rooting.
I have a Nokia 3, Model TA-1020, Android version 8.0.0 (which apparently is Oreo, even though I got this phone as a Nougat) and Android Security patch level May 5, 2018.
From all the research I attempted to do regarding rooting a Nokia 3, most times it would be for a specific model (which apparently is important) but never TA-1020 (the one I have).
So it makes me wonder if I can root my phone. I don't want to do anything serious, just to basically give root access to a couple of apps (from what I understand).
Any guidance would be helpful if it is possible.
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First of all I need to preface this by saying I know nothing about rooting.
I have a Nokia 3, Model TA-1020, Android version 8.0.0 (which apparently is Oreo, even though I got this phone as a Nougat) and Android Security patch level May 5, 2018.
From all the research I attempted to do regarding rooting a Nokia 3, most times it would be for a specific model (which apparently is important) but never TA-1020 (the one I have).
So it makes me wonder if I can root my phone. I don't want to do anything serious, just to basically give root access to a couple of apps (from what I understand).
Any guidance would be helpful if it is possible.
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There is already a thread and tutorial on XDA for rooting the nokia 3 (TA1020 and TA1032) on Nougat 7.1.1 and Oreo 8.0.0
Here is the link.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nokia-3/how-to/guide-how-to-flash-twrp-magisk-t3785768
The important stuff......
You have received an android 8.0 update - so your device is an Oreo device.
It does not matter what was on the device when you purchased it - for future reference, just quote your current android version - Never quote previous versions or what was on the device when you brought it, as I can guarantee someone will see NOUGAT in your post and assume you have a Nougat device.
(Things like that cause all sorts of confusion and issues here that if you was to follow the incorrect instructions you would brick your device and render it unusable)
I'm also using a Nokia 3 TA1020 on Oreo (8.0.0)
After reading the rooting thread I've decided not to proceed with rooting my own Nokia 3.
As the procedure isn't very clear and it seems many users have had issues afterwards.
If you know NOTHING about rooting I suggest you also stay well clear of trying to root your nokia 3 - it's a very complicated process that even I'm not confident enough to try - and believe me Ive rooted many devices in the past!
With the Nokia, it's not a case of flashing a file in a custom recovery to gain root - there are several things you must do using a PC and complicated button combinations and perfect timing.
You get any of this wrong or miss a step you have a rather useless paperweight rather than a Nokia phone and trying to root will invalidate and void any remaining warranty your device may have left.
Ask yourself why you need root?
If you root your device, you have to keep the system recovery as if you flash a custom recovery you won't receive any system updates.
Also if you do keep your system recovery and receive a system updates you have to go through the process of rooting all over again and system updates can then fail, as confirmed by users in the other thread......
Newer android versions (8.1 and 9.0) will also block some of things users get round using substratum and xposed.
These apps will be almost useless in android 9.0 because Google is taking away the ability for rooted devices to change system UIs and draw over any apps.
Most xposed modules will be obsolete.
Obviously what you do is your own choice, I'm just saying it's not for me and I really don't want to try.
There isn't not any real benefit from having a rooted device these days, especially on this device which looks so difficult to get rooted.
Obviously you don't have to take my word for it, just look at all the posts in the thread I've linked to you above of users who tried the rooting process and missed a step or didn't follow correct instructions or even in one case followed instructions for the wrong android version and wrong device and have now bricked their device and rendered it unusable.
In my opinion it's just not worth it as the risks involved outweigh any real benefit gained.
Regards
@bubba1601 one slight modification to your post, rooting won't stop you from receiving system updates - as long as you still have your stock recovery. That said I agree with you on everything else especially the fact that it's a lot of hassle. Even after you have rooted your phone, once you install an update you have to go through the whole process of rooting over again. Half the time, my system update fails. If you're not familiar with the process it can really be daunting
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@bubba1601 one slight modification to your post, rooting won't stop you from receiving system updates - as long as you still have your stock recovery. That said I agree with you on everything else especially the fact that it's a lot of hassle. Even after you have rooted your phone, once you install an update you have to go through the whole process of rooting over again. Half the time, my system update fails. If you're not familiar with the process it can really be daunting
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Thank you for correcting me @redweaver.
I've edited my comments accordingly!
After reading the linked post It really doesn't give me any confidence to try it and I personally see no benefit from doing it.
redweaver said:
@bubba1601If you're not familiar with the process it can really be daunting
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bubba1601 said:
In my opinion it's just not worth it as the risks involved outweigh any real benefit gained.
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Thanks you both for all the advice you've given me and I want to ask 1 more thing:
If I mess up something during the rooting process, is my phone forever a brick or can I fix it with a factory reset of some kind ?
Because even if I can't fix it, I am still willing to give it a try since:
I got this phone for free. (literally $0, not that someone gifted it to me).
This is my secondary phone (I have a Windows Phone as my main).
I have sent this phone for repairs at least 4 times and it took 3 weeks to get it back each time and the problems return every time.
I have factory reset it 5 times so one more isn't going to be a problem.
It still has problems.
I am not really a phone person and only use it when I am outside of my house (something that doesn't happen often) and only for games.
So my biggest concern is if it is possible to reset my phone after not following an instruction properly. But even that isn't really going to stop as long as it is possible to root my phone since I had the impression that only certain models could get rooted so far.
MainGoldDragon said:
Thanks you both for all the advice you've given me and I want to ask 1 more thing:
If I mess up something during the rooting process, is my phone forever a brick or can I fix it with a factory reset of some kind ?
Because even if I can't fix it, I am still willing to give it a try since:
I got this phone for free. (literally $0, not that someone gifted it to me).
This is my secondary phone (I have a Windows Phone as my main).
I have sent this phone for repairs at least 4 times and it took 3 weeks to get it back each time and the problems return every time.
I have factory reset it 5 times so one more isn't going to be a problem.
It still has problems.
I am not really a phone person and only use it when I am outside of my house (something that doesn't happen often) and only for games.
So my biggest concern is if it is possible to reset my phone after not following an instruction properly. But even that isn't really going to stop as long as it is possible to root my phone since I had the impression that only certain models could get rooted so far.
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Yes it's possible to restore the phone if something goes wrong, but not via the traditional factory reset proceedure.
I understand resetting if flashing goes wrong involves using PC software called "SP flash tool" to flash some system files.
This isn't done inside android from the phone, it's done with your Nokia plugged into a PC in fastboot / download mode, again, I'm not sure of this part and that's
the bit I'm not really understanding and why I'm very reluctant to do it.
As I said, the choice is yours, but bear in mind the author of the rooting thread has now moved to another device so will not be supporting the Nokia 3 or the Nokia 3 rooting thread.
Is nokia 3 TA-1020 ROOTABLE
Long time rooter who has more or less given up in recent years.
Rooted:
HTC hero
HTC desire
Samsung Galaxy s1
Nexus 4
Nexus 5
Nexus 5x
Not rooted:
Pixel 2
Pixel 4xl
Just got a pixel 4 but would be tempted to root the pixel 2 while it's still got some life in it.
Got a few quick questions as to what has changed recently. Would be using magisk to achieve root after installing twrp. (Unless this is old hat and something else is the method of choice). Probably will have to unlock bootloader can't remember if I ever did it on the pixel 2
What's the procedure for monthly updates can they be done via ota or do I need to bring adb into it?
Best guides floating about at the moment? Any other pertinent advice? Muchthx
first of all, nobody cares how many devices you have rooted in the past, especially if you come needing help anyways which i find amusing.
secondly, to root this, boot twrp and flash magisk. if you are on android 10 you will need to patch the boot image from the factory image of the version you are on with magisk and flash it to your current boot slot.
thirdly, if you are on android 10 and rooted, you will get otas. anything lower and you will need to adb sideload otas.
IMO the rooting party is pretty much over. I also returned to xda after many flashes years ago. For the Nexus, the great Beanstown dev provided monthly flashes for your custom recovery, but it looks so much more complicated today, to the point it's not worth the effort anymore. I'm sticking with stock till the '2 dies. The risk of unlocking the bootloader and getting root is simply not worth the headache as evident in the Q&A posts. So for now, for my much wanted rootness, I resort to debian linux on the desktop, a command line, and the luxury of typing sudo!!
sudoxd said:
first of all, nobody cares how many devices you have rooted in the past, especially if you come needing help anyways which i find amusing.
secondly, to root this, boot twrp and flash magisk. if you are on android 10 you will need to patch the boot image from the factory image of the version you are on with magisk and flash it to your current boot slot.
thirdly, if you are on android 10 and rooted, you will get otas. anything lower and you will need to adb sideload otas.
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Very impressive signature of the number of many devices you have. Maybe a new wall plaque perhaps?
Need to remove the "security policy prevents..." problem. Rooting?
What? I assume you're device has some sort of company restrictions on it, in which case you shouldn't be messing with it unless you want to get in trouble.
On the other hand, if you bought this phone, or it is officially owned by you now, then the best way to workaround this issue is to unlock the bootloader and flash twrp using Odin on a windows PC. After flashing it, you can try installing magisk using twrp (to root it), though i doubt that rooting will let you workaround the issues. In my opinion, you should find an android 9 or 10 custom ROM which is stable, and flash it to your device. You'll get better battery life, speed, a new and updated look and newer security patches.
If you're looking into doing any of the above, you can find many tutorials online, and its not that hard. Once you install TWRP, the rest is pretty straightforward as it provides a touchscreen GUI and easy flashign support.
I know this answer is a bit late, but if you still have the phone and are looking for a solution then I hope it helps